Creed III (2023) - Movie Review
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- The Rocky/Creed saga continues with Creed III, the first film with no involvement of Sylvester Stallone. While I think the story and direction are very refreshing for the franchise, some style and editing choices in the 3rd act hurt my enjoyment quite a bit.
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I felt like they could’ve built up Adonis’s comeback from retirement better, aswell as how people perceived DAME as he rose to stardom. The final fight would’ve felt like it had more hype to it.
I agree- I especially think the Dame character needed to have a little better build up to his title shot.
What rise? They just threw him in. Original Rocky did a better job of showing the champ fighting a nobody gimmick gone wrong.
The script sucked foe this film
Agreed, Jonathan Majors is super talented. Ever since I saw him in Lovecraft Country, I knew he was on his way. He should have a long career as a highly revered actor.
Jonathon major is a weird dude. Even in the movie. No wonder why he was charged for domestic violence irl
I like the part where they give Donnie a statue and Damian shows up and challenges him to a fight and tells Bianca to come to his Apartment if she wants to see a real man. The scene was really topped off perfectly when Clubber Lang put his jacket around Damian and said "That's my boy."
"Hey woman!! HEY WOMAN!!!!". He had to speak up because she's hard of hearing. lol
@@ThaMizphit74 lol
Hey woman! Hey woman!
You can’t be serious 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@roeneilwilliamstheoutletpo3422 dead serious💀
When I saw the interview with Micheal B Jordan saying that he was inspired by anime to make Creed 3. I knew Cody was not gonna be such a big fan of Creed 3. 😂 Respect the honesty tho.
lmaooo my comment on the out of theatre short was just like this 😂😂😂
That last fight scene was awesome. I rarely disagree with this guy- but directors try to incorporate new/ fresh approaches- not shot the last movie again.
Cgi in a rocky/creed fight? No thanks. The best thing about these films since the 70s was that it was practical. Now we’re adding cgi to these fights? Hell no thank you
ever since Scream 3, i can’t help but notice how every trilogy really does follow the same formula, by going back to the beginning and discovering something about the past that we didn’t know before. wonder why they always do that 🤔
It does seem to be a popular Trope with trilogies. I remember the dark Knight Rises what's a good example of that. Thankfully Rocky 3 didn't do that.
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For me, first time it felt like the Creed films had a true villian. Majors was so good that I'd be down with having Creed 4 be a rematch. Creed 4 feels like a natural last entry, but they should feel proud if decided to end here. A remarkable follow-up to the Rocky films
Me personally, I really liked how unique it was. Solid review. I think I enjoyed it more then you, but that’s fine. I love the anime stylistic approach. I thought it was awesome.
If it had a killer clown in it, he would have loved it more.
You a great film critic. I like that you give such an articulate review w/o major spoilers. Your passion for the 2 franchises feels 100% authentic. Would love to see your take on The Hustler & The Color of Money!
I really enjoyed this movie. It hit all the dramatic moments you hope for from a rocky/creed movie. The performances were awesome.
Special shout out to Wood Harris. He gets more screen time and he’s so good.
I just felt the final fight did not work. The regular boxing moments are dope. The added anime style flair in the final fight did now work for me at all.
He was great as a thug baddie in Dredd 2012. I didn't even recognize him until I was looking up the cast info. Then I was like, YO!
This feels like the no way home in the series, each movie was held up by Sylvester but now that he’s not in it, Adonis finally is able to go on his own. Also Sylvester is credited as producer in the credits
That's a fair comparison
Just watched it today. I respectfully agree with your review on 3. Started off great until probably the last 30 minutes which felt a bit rushed. But still enjoyable to watch and it still has a rewatchable aspect.
I love how he took some inspirations from shounen animes, mostly the fight scenes
That man watched Hajime no Ippo 100%
Me too, and is very about his anime inspirations as well. He’s got a lot of respect for the art of anime period.
@@necrogon22 he did
Anime is 🤮.
@@cullenbohannon1408 not all anime’s are bad that just is the stereotype to hate on a hole genre. I only seen a couple of them were amazing, and some that are very bad. The bad ones are the shows that Understand people think anime is bad.
Dude... I am with you. I kept hearing about how awesome and unique the fights were, and I actually LIKED the idea of DBZ style fight scenes...but kept feeling like I was missing something.
The fight itself, all I saw were shaky-cams and a lot of really quick cut edits, into different angles, instead of just letting the camera settle and having the actors show off the choreography (a HUGE pet peeve of mine in fight scenes). Ryan Cooglar was especially great at this; the fights in the first two films were SO much better!
@iatealready I mean I can't say I have any professional experience in fighting, but even if the choreography was good, the way it was shot and edited made it impossible to tell.
dbz? lol
@iatealready I’m sure you’re a badass fighter. How many titles you got?. Stfu 😂
@iatealready I’m talking about you tough guy. Acting like you know shit about fighting behind the keyboard. Gtfoh
I almost teared up in the 1st and 2nd creed movies. Can't believe it even typing this. Gonna have to go see if this movie can make me feel something.
Excellent job on this review! While I don't think it was that great of a movie, we agree on everything else. So far, you're the only one I know that isn't a fan of this movie. It's possible my opinion could change when I buy it on 4K to rewatch, but as a movie in the Rocky/Creed franchise, I wasn't impressed. It was also predictable as well. We don't need another Creed movie, as I wouldn't really be interested in the direction they clearly are going in. That would work better as a TV show. Can't wait to watch your updated ranking video. This will be 8th on mine.
This will be my first rocky franchise film in theaters, i just recently got into the rocky movies with a friend of mine and we are pretty excited for it, we watch your vids together so its always good to hear your opinion on films before we get to check them out
I think this might be my favorite movie reviewer.
Same dude;
He replaced Jeremy Jahns for me
Real, authentic and jist have similar tastes
@@leonardobraynen1524 Jeremy’s reviews are stagnant and he doesn’t really get into detail and he’s not very personable. Sometimes watching his reviews you wonder if he even watched the movie or if he just read some reviews and went with a multitude of random opinions.
Cody is the best reviewer in the scene right now.
Thank you!
@@CodyLeachYT I mean your a really great reviewer and you start up conversation. Do you have any ideas for movie reviews because I trying to make a lot more movie reviews.
Jonathan Majors was good in the movie "Devotion" as well. Someone to watch as his career really takes off.
This was an extremely nuanced and fair review, Cody. Though I damn near LOVE this film, you did shed some light on a few issues that I too had “hiccups” with. I totally agree that it went by WAY_too_fast between act-2 and act-3. Felt like 15-20 minutes had been cut out, which was a shame. And it DID feel weird, if not downright UNbelievable, during one specific sequence, that Rocky wasn’t there (100% agree)
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Anyway. We were 8 friends seeing it in a packed IMAX theater & absolutely loved the anime-style of the final fight! :-) But I totally understand that others will feel different. It WAS a huge swing! The way I saw it, when the anime-arena took over and we were left with Adonis and Damian alone, it was all inside of ADONIS’ head :-) This was how he saw it, fighting his long lost brother. The reason I saw it like that, was because of little Adonis in the movie, also being an anime-nerd. So it weren’t just Michael B. as a director, but also the character WITHIN the film, who loved anime. All the posters in his room during the flashback. Him comparing anime-characters with Damien, before his flashback fight, sitting there with a comicbook in hand :-) That’s why it didn’t feel weird to me. But it IS subjective, so if it doesn’t work for some people, I get it. However, We all loved it, and I truly thought the fight-sequences were incredibly well choreographed and badass :-) It felt so fresh again.
For the issues already mentioned, I can “only” give this film an 8.5 outta 10.. HOPING for an extended cut, where in between act-2 and 3 it gets fleshed out more :-) It COULD happen :-)
Thanks for your review!
100% agree bro
Which scene are you referring to about Rocky being there? Adonis’ mother passing away? The funeral right?
@@GoldenStateOfMind831 Exactly :-)
Anime styles in fight scenes definitely sells it for me.
I love the anime but even i don't know if that style fits this franchise
Can't want to see it Saturday. Love the franchise so most likely going to love it. Can't get as bad as Rocky 5 which isn't that bad really so yeah. Great review. Don't now what to expect with the whole anime thing but we'll see.
Stallone had a producer credit in this movie
Yep. This. I agree.
Rocky is my favourite saga of all time and yep, this was good but a little off with pacing issues in act 2 and 3. Just rushed the second half. Something was cut.
I reckon the anime fight style might actually make this more enjoyable for me personally, but I can totally get how it doesn’t vibe for some people. I really appreciate how you acknowledge it is objectively well-made and you have mad respect for MBJ, it just wasn’t your cup of tea.
I do hope the ONE anime you’ll give a chance to is the movie Perfect Blue, because I think you might actually enjoy it. It’s my top “don’t judge a book by its cover” movie to recommend and one I consider pretty accessible to non-anime fans. IMO, it’s one of the greatest psychological horrors, live action or animated. It’s got a very grounded story with an empathetic protagonist, and it doesn’t have the stereotypical “anime look” to it. And because it’s animated, it’s also very gory and doesn’t hold back on the graphic imagery.
Just a great movie in general that I believe is sorely overlooked because it falls under the genre of anime.
The film that Black Swan owns alot too lol
But yes Perfect Blue so perfect
It was good it wasn’t bad but it just fell short with something. Had a missing piece compared to creed 1/2 and I couldn’t put my finger on it. Solid movie though so 7.5/10
I really liked it. Did need another 20 minutes tho. I'm sure the 4K Blu-ray will have extended scenes.
As far as "how boxing works".. yeah Diamond would never have gotten a title fight like that.
True. Very true. That being said... Neither would Rocky in the original movie. Another top contender would've been a replacement.
Honestly I was even more skeptical of Adonis just being able to go on live TV and declare he's getting the title fight.
@@CodyLeachYT that part is actually pretty realistic. Since he retired as the champ and the backstory between him and dame if he wanted to come out of retirement for a title fight they would absolutely make that fight happen in real life because it sells.
Seeing this tomorrow. Really excited!! I’m all caught up on the Rocky/Creed franchise.
Not on the level of the first two films but it will be hard for any movie to top this as my favorite of the year. The final fight is probably the best in the Rocky franchise, never was i so invested. I like anime and i practice boxing since i was 19 (i'm 36) and i can apreciate it since this is a movie, the "punch" tribute to Ashita no Joe and Dragon Ball was amazing.
My only negatives is the music, which was the weakest from any Rocky movie and the training sequence.
I also thought that they cut 15 minutes of the movie, but it was awesome anyway. If The Flash, Indy 5 and John Wick 4 don't deliver as much, this is gonna be my favorite movie of 2023.
I posted on another thread that it might have been interesting if they briefly morphed into their teen versions in the final fight with the 2 teen actors fighting in place of the adult ones.
The final fight WAS awesome but I wish it had been a tad longer. A few more minutes of screen time for the final fight would have been great. It went from the early rounds to the final ones way too fast.
@@Zurround Didn't thought about the bit with their kid versions fight, but that, if well executed, would have been awesome😁😁.
If you time most of the Rocky/Creed fights they are pretty short. I think only Drago vs Rocky goes 15 minutes.
I watched Creed 3 yesterday. I am a big fan of all the previous movies but something was just missing in this one.
There were quite a few scenes where I was thinking if they had just made it a little different then it would've been better. With all these added up, it made me a bit annoyed.
The music did not appeal to me at all, but it doesn't seem aimed at me.
I will add that I think I understand why the film was delayed because there was a big plot point shown in the first trailer that didn't end up in the final film. So I think they spent the time in editing to change the tone.
Overall though it was ok but it just didn't hit me like previous films. My overall mood ATM in my life is not great, so this may very well affect my opinion of the film.
Finally someone who agrees with me. I didn’t like it either easily the worst Creed film. Just full of plot holes and stuff that made no sense
@@anthonymanuel55000 yeah I think allowing this to be Michael B Jordan's first directed movie was a mistake.
I also thought it was odd to portray Adonis as a bit too injured and old to continue boxing for much longer, it was a strange choice because it means there might only be 1 more Creed movie with Adonis as the main character.
The idea of Amara becoming a boxer is also a bit woke to me. I don't think many people want to see that.
@@wausjackbauer128 I agree. The movie was just so unrealistic too like how did Damien not get disqualified for kicking, elbowing and throwing illegal punches against Felix. The dude has been in jail for 20 years and is all of a sudden just able to beat the heavy weight champion? Also how did Damien get caught by the cops but not Adonis when he was right there? The part where Damien called into the interview that Creed was doing on live TV was also just ridiculous. These are just some complaints I had there’s plenty more. Really don’t get the ppl saying this was great I just don’t see it.
@@anthonymanuel55000 yeah I could forgive some things but yeah
@@wausjackbauer128 now we know why Sly didn’t wanna be involved. It also just wasn’t the same without him. Rocky would have 1000% of been at Mary Ann’s funeral too.
I love DBZ. I really appreciate the anime references. But I can understand if people didn't dig it.
No spoilers and this is my opinion only.
Just got back from seeing Creed 3 and I'll be honest, I was let down.
I enjoyed the first two Creed movies, especially the second one because I got to see some of it up close being filmed.
The premise of this movie had potential but I felt that it fell flat. Aside from the adorable little girl that played the daughter, most of the characters were blah. No scene stealing characters like Paulie, Clubber, Apollo, Mick, or even Gazzo.
The training montage was forgettable. The final fight didn't have that Rocky drama and excitement to it. After a Rocky movie, you should want to jump rope or do pushups. I walked out of the theater uninspired.
Exactly how I felt
The training montage was definitely the weakest out of all of them, wish we saw more of Drago. I wasn’t expecting Creed and Drago to be cool with each other just like that…
There is a deleted scene from Creed 2 that gives more context to this
Dame getting a title shot is completely ridiculous. A guy who has never fought a pro fight gets to fight for the championship!? I understand they needed a replacement but that doesn't mean you put the title on the line. You could have put Dame in a non-title fight and it's still a massive opportunity to make a name for himself. Letting him fight for the title is perhaps the most unbelievable thing I've ever seen in a Rocky film. It felt like they were trying to call back to the original Rocky, but at least Rocky was an actual pro. And they built the entire movie around the far fetched idea of giving Rocky a title shot. But thought Damian was the best villain since Ivan Drago.
It’s even more ridiculous he doesn’t get disqualified for throwing 3 illegal punches, kicking and elbowing. This movie really wasn’t very good. Worst one since Rocky 5 for me
@@anthonymanuel55000 It was a good movie. You can’t get too technical about the boxing scenes- people forget that the original Rocky fight scenes were nowhere near realistic.
@@ikant312 I agree with you there, but this one was just too much for me. At least in those films I didn’t feel like it was getting taken out of the movie
I don't know if any of the other 250 comments mention this but I could have sworn this movie was showing as 2hr 40mins a few weeks ago. I wonder if there was a late panic about that and they chopped it down for cinemas. If so, and given what you say about the 2nd act/3rd act, it might not be the final version we ever see. Great review anyway.
I’ve been watching the series this week bc of your videos, forgot how great the series is, thanks for doing these man this was a fun series of videos
My fav of your tees is back! Great stuff. Won't catch this on the big screen out of respect for Sly.
Yes, I definitely enjoyed it better than you. I like how Drago helped Creed out. I liked how he kept the training montage and I even liked the Rocky victory song playing when Creed wins. I liked the story. And the story was a story that Rocky really wasn't needed at this point. This was a story that started long before Rocky was in his life. This was Creed's most personal story, and the fighting scenes were filmed a bit different, but I gotta say that I really enjoyed the way he did it. At one point there was no crowd, it was just him and Damien, no crowd, just darkness around the ring, with just these two warriors, two old friends, just settling something that needs to be settled. And I thought it was just as good as any other Creed film, possibly better.
Thanks for a post full of spoilers.🤬
It didn't feel attached to the Rocky universe at all and the whole anime inspiration was corny
What? U thought Creed would lose!?? T/F
Wow spoilers wtf!!!
@@mikewarner5583 didn't he lose in the last one
That one "glaring scene" that you speak of where Rocky wasn't in it just took me right out of the movie. I was watching the movie and saying it makes no sense that Rocky is not in this scene. Even if he just had a cameo with no lines I would have been alright with it. It is what it is though. I understand that Stallone didn't want to be in it so not much they could do I guess.
EXACTLY! Also why would Apollos other kids not be there?
@@anthonymanuel55000 LOL! Exactly. I forgot he had other kids until Donny brought up how they are worthless.
The same subplot with the daughter was in Rocky V.
It's off topic but want to know the irony of not liking much the anime inspiration with the fight scenes of Creed 3? Man of Steel has some of it in it's fight scenes with Zod =P
The difference is Man of Steel is fantastical by nature so it wasn't out of place for me.
Im calling it now. His daughter is gonna get her own movie. A deaf boxer ? Its the perfect underdog story.
Thanks for your video Cody!! You really know your shit, you call a spade a spade, and pretty much talk how I feel… this movie for me is only better than Rocky 5 and 3 in my opinion.. I didn’t like your out of theatre reaction, and when I saw the movie I knew why!! Thanks again for your video, and looking forward to your ranking.. thumbs up from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺👍👍👍👍
Yeah I agree with on pretty much everything. The fight sequence was incredibly underwhelming it felt like a movie and not a real fight but I loved Damian as a character. Ive seen every rock / Creed in theaters and the crowd went wild pumping there fists and this one everyone was seated.
I liked this movie overall. I would've liked to have seen a bit more tension between Adonnis and Damien. I think they let Adonnis mother off the hook a bit on how she is the reason why Damien hates Adonnis so much. He didn't turn his back on him his mother ended the connection. I was also let down by the ending. I would've preferred if Adonnis walked out the dressing room with Damien showing a sense of them reconciling their differences and regaining their lost friendship instead of the off putting "well you know where to find me" and then walks out. Still a good movie overall. Majors is a damn good actor as well. You should check him out in The Harder They Fall
Solid review. I just love how thorough you are with these reviews.
The story sounds interesting. The trailers looked good. I am not a big fan of anime or boxing so I'm not sure I'm ever going to watch this.
But still....I applaud Michael Jordan for making this movie and you for reviewing it.
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Totally agree with the pacing issues with the third act. Loved the movie up until then. What was most jarring was seeing Damian win the heavy weight title and going from a guy who just got out of prison and probably doesn't have a dime to his name to heavy weight champ overnight and you get that scene where he calls out Creed on TV and he's in a fancy apartment with some GF. Like there should have been time jump there, or spend more time showing the rags to riches ark with Damian. Maybe that part of his life makes him more of villain as he starts hanging out with bad people. Maybe it would have been too much but I think showing more of Damián's rise and what that does to him as a person would have made for a better final act.
I understand that criticism but me personally I get over it right away knowing how much money Dame would’ve received for the fight. I understand the criticism and can’t really argue it
Man .., you are spot on .. Definitely need to see the directors cut
I like your review as far as dame a title shot immediately it's the same thing they did in Rocky 1 and Creed 1 unforeseen circumstances Blade 2 this guy getting a shot at the world champion. As far as the controversy behind the scenes we would have no idea if it wasn't for Stallone trying to hurt the film.
I disagree it's the same thing as the first Rocky & Creed. Both of those films spent a lot of time exploring why those characters are given title shots. Those films earn it.
I think Creed 3 was absolutely trying to call back to the original Rocky, but it was sloppy. Dame is 0-0. You can't give a guy who has never had a pro fight a shot at the title. The film knows this and has to pull a "Tonya Harding" just to make it seem more believable. And the whole ordeal happens over the course of like 20 minutes. They also try to explain "everyone is afraid to fight the champ" which I don't buy either. There would be a dozen guys lining up for a title shot. Besides the $$$ you would get for a title fight, who is really scared of that guy? Not a big heavyweight champ.
I enjoyed the film overall! Not crapping on the movie. I have a lot of complimentary things to say. But Dame getting a title shot at 0-0 doesn't make sense. He's basically a towel boy who just got out of prison.
MMA fan here. It’s 100% believable that there would be fighters who wouldn’t want to 1. fight the champ at all or 2. Not want to fight the champ last minute.
It happens frequently in MMA where they can’t really pick their opponent. It’d DEFINITELY happen in boxing where every boxer wants to protect their “undefeated” status by ONLY fighting people they know they can beat.
I just got out of this movie right now, I felt that this movie fell flat in so many ways. Everyone has been pumping up Jonathan Majors with the whole, Ant-man. Loki KANG new “big bad”
I find him hard to understand when he talks. He’s only 33 or 34 but he looks much older.
Anyways I found the movie extremely predictable. I knew what was going to happen before it even happened. I’m not even a big Creed fan although the Rocky movies are top teir.
This one just kind of fell flat.. most everyone I was watching it with was checking there phones for time, or leaving early.
Movies like Million Dollar Baby
Or Southpaw
Now THOSE are boxing films that you can feel to your the bottom of your core. A story with substance.
Creed fans, don’t rush to see this film, wait til you can stream it
Yea I agree. Went to see it yesterday and me and my friend were both disappointed
Have not seen this yet but I have a feeling the anime style is going to drive me nuts. Also warrior is a damn good movie
If you ain't first you're last
Okay and, your not first
@@timspence2328 then I am last
@@JASETHE13TH no, it means your not first, dumbass
@@timspence2328 if you ain't first you're last
But Ricky Bobby's dad was high when he said that.
SPOILERS I agree that things were extremely rushed another point is they addressed the idea that Adonis is “old and broken” list off his numerous injuries but never feel like they are a factor at any point in the fight. Or during the build up.
Wasn’t Sly still tagged as a producer?
Thank you for this review... this is exactly how I felt I've been checking other review abd yours is the one that really communicated my thoughts..
Damien is one of the best villains in the Rocky Franchise
One big issue with the movie is DAZN is terrible. In the first fight in the movie you see the Showtime team presenting the fight, Mauro Ranallo, AL Bernstein, the always classy Jimmy Lennon Jr. In the final fight of the movie you get the team from DAZN. Second rate announcer, lousy commentators. Should have used the Showtime team for the final fight.
It's funny how Jonathan Majors showed up in 2 major roles within a month of each other in 3rd movies in a series and everyone agrees he was the best part of the movies. And yet both movies are also being seen as maybe the least enjoyable of the trilogies. Weird. Jonathan Majors was fantastic in both movies though. That's for sure.
This franchise is awesome!! The Rockies will always outshine but much respect to Creed!.... Off topic but apparently there is a VR for Resident Evil Village now, might wanna look into that for the Game Chamber!
Great review as always Cody! Cheers
Cody you’re the best reviewer on the scene right now. Your reviews really show case that you in fact watched the movies you’re reviewing and you care about expressing your opinions thoroughly.
I appreciate it
I just caught this on prime. Its a solid movie. Okay i did feel like yeah they could have showed dames build up after his first win, and yeah the daughters storyline felt a little unresolved, but as a movie, and as a viewer who can shut off his brain and enjoy a good movie...this one sticks the landing. Movies these days are 2+ hours and i don't got that kinda time with kids running around my house. I want a solid consolidated movie and this one definitely is a winner for me.
Stallone definitely deserves compensation, but the reason he got pissy is his ideas for future movies were rejected, and for good reason. His ideas for a Rocky 7 and a prequel series were terrible
Epic movie review thanks 🙏👍👍
Cody i know what you mean by the boxing matches being created for plot convenience. The specific one that kind of sets the plot in motion is completely unrealistic and i'm saying that as a sports fan. You are completely right.
Btw Sylvester Stallone still got credited as a producer on this movie
Just finished the movie. My little nitpicks come from a standpoint of a boxing fan.
Jose Benavidez Jr look filled up for the role. But he's still too naturally small. At best, he's a 160 lber. I don't wanna talk about notorious ducks like Clenelo and Budrick Fraudford. Makes my blood boil lol
Dame should've been given at least 10 tune up fights to be believable he can beat a unified champ even with cheating. Being a golden gloves champ hardly means anything in the pros. I've seen Robeisy Ramirez and Loma took Ls on their early fights despite being 2 time gold medalists.
I had to turn off my brain upon seeing 2 fighters in HW with that physique going 12 rounds without their cardios suffering.
Seeing DeadZN in there made me chuckle lol
The story is still solid imo.
Cody, "that's not quite the way it works" is pretty much the franchise defined. I call it the Rockyverse, because it can't be our universe. As in, you can't have Apollo Creed AND Muhammad Ali in the same timeline. (which makes the Joe Frazier cameo out of place) I mean, Adonis and Danny "stuntman" Wheeler were both light heavies in Creed 1. Now at the beginning of Creed 2 they are both suddenly heavyweights AND fighting for the title? Yeah, it's not impossible but that isn't happening. On a side note, Rocky 3 really should have opened with the rubber match (third fight) between Clubber and Rocky. You don't usually split two fights then walk away from a third. That would have been sweet. Anyhoo, I'll have to catch Creed 3 and see what's what. I still cant' buy Adonis as a heavyweight after being set up as a light heavy, but also not impossible. Adonis would get mauled, but hey, movie gotta movie.
16:53 Yeah anime style fight scenes don't work in a mostly realistic boxing series.
I'm undecided about how the final boxing match went, It was defiantly unique, and sure there were some new type of shots which i actually didnt mind, but the fight itself didn't feel 100% i need to watch it again i liked the new stuff but the actual Boxing in that last fight felt less some how. Regarding what you said about him being more mature sure but he did blast Maryanne in the movie. The main thing i needed and its probably me but i felt like i needed subtitles for the speaking parts things weres said and i was like what did he say. BTW Stallone actually was still a producer on this
can someone explain the photo that were with the letters from damian
It was a picture of Damien and the guy who attacked Drago and broke his arm. So Damien had Drago attacked to manipulate his way into a title fight.
I like Jonathan Majors. I think I prefer him as a protagonist though.
I totally agree with you’re opinion
It did seem slightly messy but to be fair the studio cut 30 mins of film to make it a 2 hour movie.. will be interesting to see a directors cut if it ever comes out.
Hey Cody make some room, I'll chill on that island with you. The anime moments we're a bit too cheesy for my taste.
Couldn’t agree more 100%
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Imagine if Rocky had come to the funeral with ROBBY! Adonis is standing there with his black umbrella, greeting folks arriving at church. Out of a family-wagon (Robby’s) steps out Rocky and son. Adonis sees Rocky and walks over to him. They stand in front of each other, sharing a silent moment, before Rocky speaks softly; “Hey, Kid”.. Adonis; “Hey, Unc”. They hug, and Rocky introduces Adonis to Robby. The two shake hands. Robby; “Kinda feel like I already know ‘ya”.. Adonis; “Likewise, man”. Now, even those two shares a hug. Robby (in the midst of hugging Adonis) says; “So sorry for your loss.. I know what it’s like losing a mother”. Then they have their funeral, & at the following gathering, Rocky is still there with Robby. They all have a little conversation between each other, similar to what Adonis has with Bianca in the film (she, of course, is still there too, listening to it all) That way, Rocky understands what’s going on between Adonis and his old friend. Rocky wants to help Adonis get ready for the fight, to which Adonis might say; “I appreciate it, but this really isn’t your fight anymore”.. Rocky smiles; “Your fight is our fight, kid. We wanna be here for you, ‘ya know”.. Robby gently nods as well, looking at Adonis with empathy; “Yeah.. Home-Team”… Queue in the MUSIC, and we now have a training-montage where both Rocky and Robby organically has stepped in, to help out with the training, along with all the others (still including Drago’s son) By the time of the fight, Rocky and Robby could simply sit on the first row, along with Bianca, watching along. But at the final moment, Rocky will step over to the side of the ring, to give Adonis those final words of encouragement, before he goes full fury on Damian (just a little fan-fiction there, hehe)
Lol you did better than the actual people that made this movie😂 was very disappointed after seeing this yesterday really didn’t like it that much
@@anthonymanuel55000 Haha, thanks! ;-) It's all subjective, so I get it :-) I really did dig it a lot, but I definitely would've added Rocky right around that funeral! OF_COURSE he would've been there. He and Mary-Anne knew each other well, from back in the days, and there's no chance in hell that Rocky wouldn't have been there to support Donnie, during such harsh times. But it was extremely clear that he WOULD have been there, had it not been because of the BS behind the scenes. Sly was in huge battles over rights, with the people making this film (but I'm sure you know this)
@@ChristianKrogh-Denmark exactly. Glad you enjoyed the movie but for me there was just too much unrealistic stuff that happened that just made no sense to me. Since you’ve seen the movie I’m sure you know what I’m talking about. This was easily my least favorite movie since Rocky V
@TheIcemanBergkamp10 I kinda think so too, hehe :-)
I ended up seeing this weeks after the release because I just couldn’t make it out. And because enough people were “critical” of the movie, I had much lower expectations coming into it. This I guess helped me really enjoy it. But it’s still my least favorite of the CREED trilogy.
I watch the movie and overall I give Creed 3 a C.
I don't know if it was meant to compare or compete with Rocky 3 or 5, but it looked like it was trying to compete with them. But let's say it was not and it was a sequel all by itself. I don't blame Sylvester Stallone for not getting involved with this film.
For three reasons. And these are not my opinions, they are objective facts.
1. The quality story was subpar.
It's simply based on a childhood bad memory that Adonis was trying to forget and his so-called friend came back to reinvent or continue. So he wants a title shot and obtained champion, but then wanted all of it that Adonis obtained and possibly more. That's what drove Adonis to want to fight him? That's not much of a storyline. Now if he threatened his family and did physical harm to his mother and or wife and child, then yes I could understand. But all he said was he wanted it all. That was not much of a threat.
2. It was too dramatized.
Adding a dimmed lighting to the fight scenes, and adding exaggerated music does not make a quality film. The music was too much and it tried to add a heroic comeback attribute, but it didn't work well. There was nothing heroic about it. Just true bruised egos that want to settle a score from the past. There was better appropriate drama and quality story from the movie The Cinderella Man. Creed 3 definitely falls short of making a quality storyline impact.
3. The final fight boxing match was not much to cheer or to brag about.
It was your average movie boxing match. Nothing special about it. Both of Rocky and Apollo fights put together carried more quality boxing and the reason to cheer.
Those are the reasons for giving Creed III a c. It wasn't a terrible film, but definitely does not hit the label of great or even very good. My strong advice to the directors and endorsements of this film - go back to the drawing board and try again.
Took my 13 yr old to see it & he loved it , it’s Rocky for the new generation , but I agree , the story was rushed into a 2hr film
Im convinced if MBJ didn’t direct this it wouldn’t have been so overly, and unjustified, praise
Cody as a sports & boxing fan you are right about the conveniences the movie took however I can also tell you that in the boxing movies the Rocky story would never happen. Rocky in real life would never have a title shot. You have to fight many fights to climb up the ranking latter just to have a shot & if a opponent can't fight which this series has used the trope so many times from the original movie a high ranking fighter would get that spot. Not someone of Rocky's ilk just because he has a good nickname
I wanted to see Drago vs. Damien instead.
I haven't seen Creed 3 yet but I loved the last two, it came off as a passing of the torch and they did it well. Rocky just suddenly disappearing because of this controversy just seems like it's going to hit people the wrong way. Not even a cameo? Seems like it's going to be glaring for people who haven't followed the behind the scenes drama.
Saw the film today in the UK. It was ok but generally agree with a lot of your points. Think they really need to get on with the Drago spin off.....
My biggest gripe with this movie is unlike most rocky or creed films the meat of the movie which is the build up was lackluster to almost non existent. If this were one of the rocky movies we wouldve got a montage of dame dominating guys, really showing he's intimidating and unstoppable, you know making him feel like a threat? What do they do instead? he wins one fight on a fluke and literally within a few hours went from walking around in rags to being a multi millionaire with a crew and hot chicks and a mansion. So you mean to tell me this guy wins the title and within what? a week bought a mansion, got a crew and basically has taken over adonises gym? what?! So he wins one fluke fight and I as the viewer am supposed to go "man johnathan majors is a fucking threat! I dont think adonis can win?" in reality I said "Mannn, Ik where this shit is going". Give me that build up, make this fight fucking mean something. Cut all the family bs and backstory and build this fight up, You couldve done the backstory in one flashback. Not multiple strung out over the movie, I liked one and two, imo this is the weakest. By the time the fight came I didnt care, bc I knew what was gonna happen. Nothing was built up outside the 15 min montage of them both training, and him cutting a promo on stephen as show which altogether was what? 20 mins of this almost 2 hour journey? thats all the build up we get. so nothing felt special enough for me to care. Where is the contract signing? wheres the dominant opponent montage? where are the actual cool training segments like in rocky 4? where the fuck is adonises struggle to get back? instead of making it a multiple day grind, over five mins he goes from getting this piss beat out of him by his sparring partner to just magically being a warrior. The entrances also, talk about taking the piss out of something. The first fight in the movie does it properly how boxing really does, makes the entrances a cool spectacle with great camera work and music. The second time around? they chose the most boring music, the most boring way of shooting it, and didnt even like make it feel special. This is the fucking main event of your movie, like what the fuck man? the movie felt hollow, and it felt like it was tryna jam a five pound bag of bullshit and tropes into a two pound opening. Please focus on the boxing and building that up, leave the family drama bullshit for the rom com I know you wanna do down the line Michael. Rocky not being here really doesnt bother me, its a continuation of the series and its almost 4 decades later, I dont see rocky balboa as a necessary component to make this movie work.
Warrior is a favorite of mine too (thank you, Sean!). I really dug this one. The style worked for me and felt different from the rest of the franchise, the cast was excellent, and I actually thought the jump between 2-3 acts was jarring but felt right for the story. I can understand this being hit or miss but I was there for it. My favorite movie of the year so far.
Comparing this to a Gem like warrior is a disgrace 💩💯
I thought it was good but not great. I thought the fight was rushed at the end and was expecting more of a buildup. With you on the final fight; a bit disappointed, but overall still enjoyed the movie.
Honestly it could have taken some bits from the movie warrior, like Adonis being reluctant to finish Dame and showing more emotion in the fight. Cuz the scene at the end in the locker room felt kind of anti climactic. I didn't get Drago being in it, He was way to big to be fighting anyone in the movie
Just to slightly correct you, Stallone IS a credited producer on the film and therefore will be collecting a paycheck from it. Even though it's just a contractual credit and he had no involvement.
They better not kill him off camera!! Give sly that much respect 🙏 hopefully.
I'm a HUGE fan of the Creed franchise. It's in my top ten favorite movie franchises of all time. I love how inspirational, motivational, grounded and realistic the Creed movies are. I have already seen Creed 3 twice in theaters and I plan on re-watching it again in IMAX! I hope we get a Creed 4! This was another solid review Cody. 🥊🎬🎫🎥🎟️🎞️🍿
So you’re a fan of Creed but not Rocky?
@@anthonymanuel55000 I enjoy the Creed movies more than the Rocky movies.
@@clarissawestbrook2203 I’m guessing you are a newer fan then. I saw the Rocky movies at a young age and those will always be better to me. Rocky is just overall a more likable relatable character for me
@@anthonymanuel55000 I am. I recognize Rocky as still one of the most iconic figures in movie history even though I prefer the Creed franchise.
@@clarissawestbrook2203 ight that’s cool I respect that. I really enjoyed the first 2 Creeds with 2 being my favorite. 3 I personally didn’t think was as good.
I got a question, if ya viewing was early then how bloody early was Sean chandlers viewing, as his review landed 6 days ago. I’m not being funny I’m asking a legitimate question.
I saw it at a public fan event. He saw it at a private press screening.
@@CodyLeachYT
Thanks for the reply.
Hard disagree with this one. I’m an anime guy myself and the fights were the best in the entire franchise for me. I saw someone saying all they saw were shaky cams. I was easily able to see every single slip, hit. I’m an anime man myself, and the fights were absolutely amazing to me. The freeze frames were so cool. I love the movement. The change in scenery actually immersed me more. This usually happens in anime to show the intense conflict between the two characters, how they’re clashing ideals as well as fist.The story with the past and how he felt guilty, how his daughter had to learn to fight when it’s needed, and not with hate.. which is what Dame was doing. Idk where I rate this one in the entire franchise yet. But yeah I disagree, Great movie.
Good thing most people love the movie though so we have a chance of seeing more. In this comment section, I personally think it’s a classic case of people wanting the same thing.
It does feel like alot was cut out inbetween acts 2 and 3. Either theres a 3hr directors cut coming or this was messy choices by MBJ.
Do you ever plan on doing a full review of gladiator 1992? I know it’s one of your favorites.
Maybe
@@CodyLeachYT do it, dude! I always try to get more people to see that movie. One of my favorites!
on the out of theatre short i said Cody must not like the Anime style lol. hype for Creed 4 either way tbh just glad they doing new characters, NO Clubber Lang the third
LMAO
Just got out of the theater and I honestly couldn't see anything majorly wrong with it: had some good fight choreography, the story was fast paced, the soundtrack was good, the acting was good. The only thing I could think of that didn't quite work was the leon story but I think that was more because of the short runtime so it was rushed to get to the Apollo/Damian beef. It prob would have been better to had 10-15 minutes and show them being bullied and then the full scene with Damian getting arrested and it would have been near perfect
I enjoyed many parts of it but would never call it near perfect. What about Dame getting a title shot when he's never had a pro fight? That doesn't make any sense to me. And the whole Dame pulling a Tonya Harding to make it happen felt a bit convoluted. The fight between Creed & Dame didn't need the title anyway, so not sure why they would put the title on Dame in such a convoluted way. It could have been a non-title fight. I mean Donny didn't come out of retirement to go after the title, he wanted Dame.
@Faz I don't see it that way the title was giving to Dam to show his true colors to Adonis without it he would have never saw the chip that the coach saw from day one
@@aaronrumph3291 But how would Dam get a title shot in the first place? He's never fought a professional fight. He could step in there as a replacement, but it would never be for the world championship.
Creed saw Dames true colors when he was throwing cheap shots and showing no care to the fighter who was seriously hurt.
@@faz1483 people getting title shots without deserving it as always been a Rocky/Creed stable
@@aaronrumph3291 Of course. But there is a big difference between a bum pro boxer like Rocky getting a title shot and a guy who has never had a single pro fight and just got out of prison.
At that point Dame was basically Creed's friend and the champs sparing partner.
I'm not destroying the film for it. Simply something I thought didn't make sense.