The Australian Spider TIER LIST
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
- A tier list ranking a few familiar families of spider that can be found in Australia, from the huge, hairy huntsmen to the deadly funnel-webs. I had to make some pretty significant omissions, due to both time constraints, and the fact that I wanted to focus on spiders I have actually filmed myself. Hope you enjoy it nonetheless!
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[listening to your description of funnel-web spiders] Damn, he's just like me.
literally same!
@@thunder.perfectmind I was feeling a little called out ngl
All spiders belong in S Tier because they're Super Cute.
Im glad Im not alone in seeing all the myriad of ways all spiders hunt with the aid of silk or other techniques, and realizing "wow, tarantulas really just threw all their XP into 'shoving things into mouths' " 😂
Sometimes simplicity is best, I suppose!
@BugsandBiology Agreed! As someone who has two dozen tarantulas, I admire how well they compete with other smart arachnids with a game build dreamed up by Kirby 🤣
Cane toads, house cats, and rabbits are totally unimpressed by Australia's "OP" wildlife.
Haha, this is such a good point.
Easy to invade a continent whose biggest land carnivore is basically just a dog.
@@BugsandBiology a moment of silence for thylacoleo, the real life drop bear. gone but never forgotten 😔
Dude, the shade thrown at funnel webs cracked me up. 😂 Poor little guys, they're doing their best, okay!?
Roasting funnel-webs has been a recurring thing on my channel for years haha
@BugsandBiology and I love it. Everyone acts like a funnel webs only goal in life is human murder, when in reality, their only goal in life is being fat and lazy. The only thing keeping them from being uber predators is that half the time the clap of their ass cheeks alerts their snacks before they can grab em.
I think, besides the memes, Australia gets its reputation for dangerous wildlife because of its venomous snakes and because of how alien it is to most Europeans and Americans. That which is unknown is often feared.
Tbf the reputation is still rather odd to me as a resident of the Deep South. We have rattlesnakes (Including the heavyweight that is the Eastern Diamondback), cottonmouths, copperheads and coral snakes sure that’s not as match as Australia but still. We also have alligators and we have bears something Australia lacks. The reputation is clearly one built off of memes and if one goes to Florida well that’s a whole new can of worms especially if you include all the invasive species in the southern portion of the state 😂.
Yeah, look at America and "murder hornets", they're just Asian hornets, all over where my mum lives in France (got a bit lost!) They're bloody bad news for bees, and consequently farmers given the perilous state they've put any native pollinators in (the yanks I mean, not the hornets, they've not had a chance to cause issues yet!)
It's all a matter of perception? Still, I feel sorry for bees, most western countries use Italian bees after native species got hit by some heinous disease that damn near wiped them out or did totally...
@@bennettfender9927 As a Floridian I've been told my state is "lesser Australia" before, but yeah it is somewhat odd but I think it's largely out of the memes and how unknown Australian life is outside of venomous snakes, kangaroos and dangerous spiders to most Americans and Europeans.
Speaking of dangerous spiders you can always look at the brown recluse and how people think they seemingly exist all over America and that any brown spider is one and if they get bit they'll end up with a giant hole in their body.
I reckon a swarm of hornets would be scarier to run foul of than any Australian invert. We don’t have hornets here (Abispa ephippium is often called a hornet, but isn’t), and our paper wasps are extremely chill.
@@BugsandBiology Your %100 percent correct about our wasp species they are pretty much all determined to live up to the reputation of being spawns of satan himself. Hornets are definitely prevalent here and yellow jackets are horrible. Pretty much the only chill wasp here I can think of off the top of my head are dirt daubers and cow (velvet) ants the rest are incredibly defensive and can be blamed for my phobia of wasps 😂. Our bees are thankfully much more easy going especially bumble bees and carpenter bees.
Another brilliantly made video mate, entertaining and informative as always. Thanks 👍
Glad you enjoyed!
I’ll forgive you for not including Lycosids as you were short on time. I love our Wolf Spiders, we have some really diverse genera here in Australia (looking at you Hoggicosa bicolor). The only thing I think I would change is to shuffle trapdoors up a bit higher. Carried to a higher tier by the agility and vertical prowess of the Barychelids.
Another brilliant video mate!! Top shelf :)
The main reason is I have zero footage of them at all.
@@BugsandBiology also entirely forgivable. Must be time for a trip inland to capture some new footage :)
Yeah definitely. Wolfies would’ve been a definite A tier if I did feature them.
Information and subject matter is amazing, jokes got me cracking up- quick sub. Cheers mate from Canada
Appreciate the sub! Thanks!
I think the funnel webs are cute :)
It’s kinda like watching a kid having a tantrum in a way.
@@BugsandBiology Great way to put it!
Pholcids are such underrated spiders, good on you for putting them in A tier! Couldnt agree more.
Nice video. I hope you will get more recognition, because you really deserve it.
If it's not too much hassle for you, I'd love to see chapters in this video.
In Sweden we barely have any spiders that would even get through human skin, most are small and harmless. Yet I have always been afraid lol, so here I am. Tarantulas were actually my intro because theyre so different from anything we have here, we only have one type of huntsman, Micrommata Virescens, leaf spiders basically
I absolutely love huntsman spiders, such fascinating creatures that I can't gush about to my friends without getting weird looks, yes I am the "weirdo" in my group that isn't afraid of the local mini wildlife and I'll keep that title with pride! I've been not afraid, but curious about them since childhood and that part of me never went away as I grew up.
Absolutely love your videos! I've never noticed before, but on this one every now and again you say a word that sounds like it's in a broad yorkshire accent! 😂
I've kinda noticed myself that I've been progressively lapsing into more of an English accent, both in my videos and in real life. Not really a deliberate action on my part, but I think it is more suitable for narration.
Good stuff as always,……
😂 Your approach using humor helps to break through fear/dislike barriers.
“ Idiot with a Huntsman on
his face “
“ Really fucking big, and can throw his weight
around “
I have a hard time trusting people who aren’t willing to occasionally use “ words “
Thanks for the work 👍
I once saw a tiny spider hunting tiny ants. Once he saw his prey, he would run around him with great speed, emitting a web as he went. The ant, no matter what direction he would go in would get caught up in the web and tangle himself. The spider would run around him some more, emitting more silk, and eventually, when the ant was well caught, he would go in for the kill. Don't know what kind of spider it was. Do you know?
Regarding orb weavers, here in America the largest species locally makes an equally impressive large web nightly (they are nocturnal hunters) during the warm months of the year. After about three or four captures of prey and amazingly fast wrap ups by the resident big beautiful female spiders in silken cocoons before injecting venom, the web itself is usually trashed to pieces by all the struggling but that doesn't matter, she's captured plenty of food. A totally new web is spun the next night. But sometimes the hunt is unsuccessful, the web remains untouched, and the very hungry spider is still in the center awaiting a meal in the early daylight hours (most spiders hide away from the remaining web during daylight). Or occasionally spiders that are too eager spin their webs early (perhaps due to not feeding the night before) and can be found in the center of new webs in the late afternoon before nightfall. A wasp that specializes in preying on spiders can commonly be seen inspecting every orb web in existence during these daylight hours. She flies and hovers within an inch of the web but never touches it or gets captured. When she sees a spider in the center she quickly pounces on it, stings it, and takes it to her nest. Even though the spider probably weighs more than her she has no difficulty flying away with her prize. After she seals the tombs made of mud, her eggs will hatch and her larvae will feed on the still living bodies of these stung paralyzed spiders! I've seen these wasps hunt and sting orb weavers on several occasions, macabre and fascinating to observe!
They sound a lot like the Hortophora here in Australia. Big chunky spiders that tend to hide during the day, but venture out into their webs at night.
👍👍👍 If only my glacier-scoured land had a shadow of Australia's arachnid diversity!
Yeah, I've always though Oz's spiders a bit over-rated. But then I live in the swampy jungle of south Louisiana where we have spiders the size of a dime whose webs can catch and hold baby lizards 3-4" long for the tiny spiders to feast on. And we have everything from them up to (rather small in the great scheme of things) tarantulas, plus scads of objectively dangerous things like black widows and brown recluses, and also our own funnel web species. But the alligators get all the hype in terms dangerous wildlife and mostly they're no threat at all, just swimming away from people.
They may be D-Tier in your list but the funnel webs are still the last species i would want to accidentally bump onto.
Love your videos man, you helped me overcome my reservations about my own (admittedly pathetic) native spiders.
That’s awesome!
The Pholcidae made it to A tier. You are now one of my favorite people on earth. :D
The man has spoken. This is official.
Yeah, cellar spiders (the actual name of Pholcidae) are no joke. I remember when I gave juvies some pretty sizeable ants and they took them down with no problem.
I think there're the only spider family with 2-0 record in monster bug wars. Tiny but OP. What more could you ask for.
Something Ive learned is that pretty much every scary Austrailian animal, we have a version of here in Florida. Spiders, venomous snakes, big crocodilians. Except Florida also has bears, panthers, the skunk ape, and AIDS monkeys, so Id say that we are actually scarier overall.
Great vid mate. Do you have a link to the music you use in your videos? Thanks
The tracks are from incompetech. They’re named in the video’s description.
I'm sure you meant, _"At least then there's a chance that'll lead to something_ (re) _productive."_ 🤘😁🎸
Awesome list! I love coming across other spider enthusiasts that understand how mediocre mygalomorphs are compared to other spiders. They're from a bygone era.
I wouldn't go so far as to say that, and something being basal/primitive does not whatsoever make it less viable - sponges and jellyfish are some of the most ancient animals alive, and they're as successful as ever.
If this tier list was discussing spiders worldwide, and not just the Australian species, tarantulas would've probably been in at least A tier - it just so happens that the Aussie species are rather dull and unimpressive. And there are a few mygalomorphs that were omitted due to a lack of time/footage, such as the curtain-webs, that would have gotten high rankings as well, had they been included.
Im fully expecting you to give all our little multi-legged friends an F (oops... D even...) 😂
You know... silly post aside from me; I really love channels like yours, I genuinly look at spiders in such a different way. They are just little animals going about their lives trying their best to have a meal and avoid being eaten. They mean us precisely no harm at all do they? ❤
Really the biggest worry is them sneaking up on you and having you trap them somehow. As long as they can freely roam, and don't feel threatened or restrained, it's almost impossible that they'd bite any human.
Awesome video. Watching while being watched by the Tegenaria domestica that made her web close to my Working desk.
Nothing like watching a spider video and an actual spider at the same time…
Is Thomisidae as much as a taxonomic mess over there as it is here in Argentina? Even though they're incredibly common you can go to a nature reserve next to a city and find undescribed species (the genus Misumenops is an example of that). BTW, I've got a handful of Badumna longinqua individuals living in a wall across the street from my flat. Somehow they made their way to Buenos Aires and they're thriving. Should we import white-tails? (JK, that kind of thing never work as intended)
maybe Australian huntsman spider are more docile than the huntsman that can be found in asia like heteropoda species, it hard to handle them even adults that are 4inch long or more, can be so fast
What the heck happened to the redback? I understand you were staying aware of video length but it's probably the most iconic of all Australian spiders, and you can't possibly say you've never encountered one, because they are everywhere and thrive in urban environments. Another notable omission were wolf spiders.
At the time I’d made this video, I had encountered a grand total of two redbacks in my entire life, and the last one was over ten years ago.
As luck would have it, I came across my third redback a couple days after posting the video.
As for wolf spiders, I once again just didn’t have any footage. They aren’t a frequent sight in my local area, though they’re very common further from the city.
Living in Indonesia since 20 years and I got my fair share of weird and painful encounter in my garden from small wasp and bees to centipedes and assassin bug (not sur if they are assassin bug but they look like and the sting is painful for few hours), but worst one was a giant black hornet, this beautiful bug put me to tears sting me as few times in my under arms 12 years ago, 3 days of fever and strong pain, tough me to stay away from them when I see one In my garden I just go read a book inside and come back when he’s gone hahaha
Arachnids are interesting creatures. Awsome video
Awesome video as always but im so surprised you don't have any footage on our redback spiders. If i did a spider tier they woild be up there with the huntsmans and golden orbs. Also now owning a few species of funnel web spiders i truly understand your bulling of these spiders
They would’ve been high tier for sure. But unfortunately I’ve only seen two in my whole life, both long before I had a UA-cam channel.
But are redbacks any more dangerous than other widow spiders? That family of poisonous spiders is global.
Not really. I wouldn’t have ranked them high tier cause of their venom anyway, but because of how hardy/versatile they are, plus the unique architecture of their webs.
You crack me up .!
Where would you place Lycosids?
Probably A. Shame I have literally zero footage of them.
Hey cds, been a long time
@@bizarrelycosa hi
Great stuff here, my friend. I am afraid of spiders, I won’t deny that. But, my fear has more or less transformed into one that has me obsessed with learning and interacting, with just about every species I come across, both in person, and remotely from a computer, or other video capable device. A good comparison to describe where I stand with my fear, would be Bruce Wayne, choosing to use his fear of bats, as his calling card.
Aussie spiders are so cute
16:56 thats actually the funniest thing ive heard all week 😂
Where would you put red backs?
Since this tier list was at the family level, I would’ve talked about the group they belong to, the Theridiidae. They’d probably be A or S tier.
I will not go to Australia simply because I feel that Giant Razorback in the 80's... had kids I am sure of it.
How can you leave out Redbacks?
Never filmed any, and have only seen two in my life.
@@BugsandBiology That is amazing to me as in central Victoria they're everywhere, I have 6 in my own shed that I know of as we speak and doubtless many more that I don't.
Funnily enough, I just came across my third Redback yesterday
I appreciate the lotr reference 😅
Always gotta sneak them in wherever possible…
what do you coach
Cross country
My friends always balk when I say I would like to go to Australia because "everything there will kill you" 🤷
I used to think it was just a meme, but it seems a shocking amount of people take it seriously
What about very old friends?
America's tarantula, scorpion and centipede gang> 😎💯💯💯💯
😂 it's like I heard a million delusions shatter across the web!
happy to see the sparassids are right were they should be xD
Definitely not biased at all haha
@@BugsandBiology absolutely not xD
I so agree ppl love to act like australias bugs and arachnids are spawn of satan lol also do u plan on making anything on mantises in the future or r they not type of bug ur interested in?
I actually have quite a lot of footage of mantises. I’m just wondering how to use it.
You can't just omit Theridiidae >:(
(where'd you place them btw)
I would’ve put them at either A or S.
Problem is I don’t have any footage of Theridiids.
@@BugsandBiology How common are redbacks where you live? In here we don't have any spiders in the Latrodectus genus, but we have a lot of Steatoda, Parasteatoda are somewhat common too, there are also some ant mimics from this family.
I barely see any. In fact, I’ve only come across two redbacks in my whole life.
What's truly remarkable to me is not how humans managed to live in Australia but rather how any wildlife manages adapt to Modern Australians.😂 Perhaps Kangaroo's evolutionary race towards body builders with roid rage was in part to keep up with the new overlords.
this is silly. Apart from anything, the funnel web is something unlike anything else in the world and can is feared and awed in the US.. The redback is almost identical in toxicity and appearance to other widows in the US and Asia so.. they're not really getting overshadowed by other spiders like them overseas, same with huntsmen- we have many species and some rate among the largest, and our nephilas are as good at hunting as the african counterparts, our wolf spiders can hold their own, our white tails are grappling heavyweights, our leaf curlers can survive almost anything thrown at them- even sub zero temperatures.. how about our st andrew's cross ones? which i've seen down full grown cicadas? there's few like them and the brown orbs in the world with the voracity and the sticky sheet-wrapping capability. white porch spiders- endemic to australia, can kill wasps and other biggish spiders even though they are almost as delicate as cellar spiders
I really don't get what you're trying to say with both your tier and your intro because every sentence is over-egged.. but i appreciate your passion.
It's not that Australian spiders are unimpressive - I wouldn't have devoted, like, half the videos on my channel to them if that were the case - it's that they don't live up to the hysteria, and nor do they really stand out compared to spiders from other continents either.
And funnel-webs are basically just a generic burrowing mygalomorph; their only standout feature is scarcely even relevant in their natural habitat. Plus it's not like medically significant spiders are exclusive to Australia.
Funnel Webs can’t even climb out of a plate
Can you please pick up and hold a male funnel web spider so I can be convinced that what you are saying is true. Much appreciated. Oh and yes please also can you go out into the bush and pick up a brown snake for me. You will be my hero if you do this and there will be merit in what you are saying if you survive this. Lots of love and good luck ☘
There is a rather large grey area between “they are aggressive and will kill you on sight” and “they are completely harmless”. I’m not saying Australia doesn’t have animals that deserve respect. I am saying they don’t live up to the hysteria.
Australia at the very least has more impressive arachnids and myriapoda than any other Anglo-Saxon inhabited land. And being as they blow our poor efforts in blighty out of the water and the US regards itself as the totality of the world. Its easy to see why Australia has this reputation online, whilst as you say theres some pretty hair raising things in south America and Aisia...
Smash
A spider big as a dinner plate? (looks at the Goliath) You aren't in Australia!
I always get upset when you rag on the funnel webs. It's not their fault they're so robustus. They can't control genetics. And they're good at what they do. Having said that, it's hard to disagree with your list, except for the exclusion of peacock spiders.
Peacock spiders are jumping spiders, and I didn’t see the need to essentially feature the same group of spiders twice.
Plus I have no footage of them.