Actually not too long after this, Prof put Magneto in charge of the X-Men in continuity while he (Xavier) recovered from injuries. This was how X-Factor was originally formed. The original X-Men (except Jean since she was dead) refused to follow Magneto and started their own group.
It very much was due to the content matter and some of the "situations" in the story. Although it does show a point of view that nobody cares about and the ignorance of fear.
This is my favorite X-men story I found it at a church sale along with Death of Captain Marvel when I was a kid I read it over and over till the cover fell off .
CircuitBreaker or divinely guided? I remember Claremont said he one of his old bibles completely 3 time over the course of making this story just to make sure he doesn't say anything sacrilegious.
As a Christian and the grandson of a Pastor and son of a worship pastor. I too hate televangelists and think that they are modern Pharisees. I love this book and actually found it because of a book sale at my church. Also very Ironic that Stryker pointed at the only devout catholic on the team, at that point, as an example of a “non human” mutant
I swear I was just watching the back issues of Days of Future Past wondering "hmm, I wonder if Sal and them are ever gonna do God loves, Man kills?" and then I see this in my sub box lol
It's been a year since I started watching ComicPOP (back when the channel was TV Little House), and subscribed immediately. Then somehow unsubscribed, and resubscribed when I realized my error. Anyway... I'm glad you got around to God Loves, Man Kills! It's one of the few TPBs I owned prior to ComicPOP reigniting my love of comics! Woo!
Nice shirts. I definitely want that Vader with Infinity Gauntlet. Also, good references in this one. Those days of the X Men were very motivated by social issues at the time and the story suggests what you're commentary made on point. Good video. I miss the old X Men stories. IDK WTF is going on in them now-a-days.
+ComicPOP your response to Batman Odyssey was, "Ugh". I want to understand this "Ugh" you speak of in an episode of your Issues of the Back. Sincerely yours, A fan from California.
hey guys just wanted to say thank you for all the video you produce been in hospital for a couple of days and these videos never fail to put a smile on my face thank you guys :D
Sal, those little notes you put in the video when you reference a joke in another video remind me of something... Comic book notes! "Batman installed a hologram thing in the GCPD in Batman issue #6" and so forth.
Thanks Guy's, you explain it all so well.. and the channel just gets better every time.. Hope to see more soon.. 👊✊👍👍👍 I watch the show on my lunch break at work.. Keep kicking ass Guy's..
A reason why Cyclops and Storm survived the psychic attack that was meant to kill them could be: Xavier canonically helped them build psychic defenses.
I reckon with this and Avengers vs X-men both done, it'd be really cool to do Messiah Complex. It's basically the story of how Hope is born, and features the purifiers heavily, and was a huge X-men crossover (yay for X-factor)
I would love to see them do the Decimation storyline after House of M when Stryker attacked the Xavier students in the New X-Men comic. So many prominent teenage characters were killed during that story and it really cemented Stryker as a purely evil man who is everything wrong with humanity.
True but watching his followers blow up a bus full of children then systematically hunting down and murdering more children really brought it home. Yes they murdered kids in this one too but his whole mission in Decimation was specifically targeting children and that is disgustingly evil.
+pious83 I get it. This story showed he was evil. I think murdering countless more children shows he's even more evil. Now let it go. Both stories are great at showing he's pure evil.
in the future do you guys think you might do Earth 2 (New 52)? i think that story is one of the more darker story's people should know about. keep up the great work guys and gals!
Electromagnetism is an extremely powerful ability. One of the four fundamental forces of our universe. If you can manipulate effectively you can do most things lol.
I'm some what new to your channel. I've been watching for a couple months. I haven't been in the current comic scene. I stopped reading and collecting around DC's new 52 which was right before getting married. So my $50-$80 spending on comics had diminished to nothing. I'm slowly getting back to reading. I've really enjoyed the back issue series, it's gotten me wanting to read some of the titles. I will make a request hoping you guys will plan for these some time in the future. I'd like to see a video of two of my favorite runs. DC's 52 and Y: The Last Man. Thanks guys keep making videos and I'll keep watching them.
I do wish you brought up a bit more about Strykers ideology because it is more rooted in religion than this summary makes it seem. He doesn’t just hate mutants because of his wife and kid being a mutant, but also because in the Bible it states that humans were made in the image of God. That is why he points to Nightcrawler in the end of the book as an example of it being against God’s creation.
Already commented on this video twice, but I forgot as I started my rewatch binge that I already had this trade prior to finding this channel. I felt almost as bad as Nightcrawler being pointed at by Reverend Stryker!
You were right the first time - it was a single graphic novel. They were wrong saying it was two issues. That's also how it was so mature and dark - it wasn't a regular comic.
I always hated how Magneto's psychic defenses made Xavier useless against him. I much preferred Ultimate X-Men where he had to keep his helmet on or he was done.
Lol they say X-Men is a soap opera yet all anyone cares about for the last decade in Spider-Man is whether or not Peter and MJ will get back together. Extreme double standard there. The X-Men is an extremely well-written, character-driven team, Claremont era especially. Some of the most iconic moments in comics have happened in X-Men. You don't haveta be a fan of them but you can at least acknowledge they deserve their place as comic icons. Spider-Man has never been one of my favorite characters but he definitely deserves his status.That being said, I'm glad you at least liked this story. I know it didn't sound like it at first, but I do enjoy every Back Issues episode. Just figured i'd give an X-Men fan's perspective opposed to the non-fans in Comic Pop. Looking forward to the next one!
And with Magneto's psychic defenses, it was established quite a few times that Xavier taught Magneto how to protect himself from psychic attacks back when they were friends. Just verifying that it wasn't just made up for this story lol.
is there a watchmen back issues episode? if none can you do it? but with sal do the alan moore voice while talking about it, lol gonna be great good episode btw.
correct me if i'm wrong but this is the older back issues (explaining now?) you have ever done rigth? i mean you have never gone before 1982at least i don´t remember
First and most important love the channel I'm almost done watching everything on your catalog. Nj supports its own. But I can remember hearing read XMen get out of manga. Well I first heard bout this story a few years ago when rob(comics explained) mentioned it. So I was like ok on my read list. Fam, I was done. Loved the story for many reasons.
By the by, I don't know which Crisis you'll pull out for BI #100, but *if* it's Final Crisis, I'd love to see the next week be Batman: Black Mirror. I'm sure that comes up a lot in the comments section.
I went back and listened to some of the other "Back Issues" (again) and landed back into "Avengers vs X-Men". In it you mention X-Men Schism". In a future "Back Issues" could you discuss and review that one?
honestly I'm a little disappointed that you still havent done the 90's clone saga. I was a huge Spiderman fan back in the day and like you the clone saga made me quit reading comics. I would love to see you guys rip that story to pieces
+ComicPOP! unfortunately there is 11 of them to get the complete story. I bought them several years ago to see if the story is as bad as I remembered. it was........
Just so you know for when you do Inferno or any of the other books which involve Ilyana she ages 7 years in Limbo having been stuck there at the age of 7, she is with the New Mutants for at least one year before the events of Inferno which lead to the age regression back to 7, then, of course, she dies from the Legacy Virus which is retconned to have been given to her by her older brother when she and the rest of the new mutants went into the future to see what would happen to them in a few years, her brother says he will cure her and uses the process to initially removing the legacy virus from him to her because the Limbo magics make the Legacy virus not affect her as long as she is related to the magic stuff, with all of that it just overcomplicates she gets legacy virus and dies. After House of M Belasco the person who captured her and raised her partially in Limbo as well as stole parts of her soul tries to bring her back to life because he noticed her having returned to life due to the House of M, he tries but he only resurrects Darkchild who doesn't have a soul(also Belasco was trying to prepare her to be his bride originally and that may be partially why when she gets brought back she's probably 19,-21 or likely whatever language most of the old new mutants are.) Belasco wants to get her soul so he kidnaps all of the new x-men who was in the mansion and DarkChild takes some of Pixie's soul to make a soul sword and this time kills Belasco(first confrontation she didn't kill him because it would make her more demonic). She regains part of her soul in the events of Infernus and starts to work with the X-men, then she joins the new mutants participate in second coming and then unleashes the elder gods and destroys them using Legion and unleashing him such that age of X is caused to completly regain her soul as well as get revenge on the Elder Gods to whom Belasco and the demon N'Asarith(from inferno) were servants to.
Um, question, did none of the book characters address the sudden death of that chic that got thrown of the balcony and died cracking her neck on live TV?! Cause I feel like that should've been pointed out more.
Do Grant Morrison's run of New X-Men please please please you've mentioned the genosha massacre event a few time but you should do the comic where it actually happens
if you guys ever want to play a good x men game. the infamous series would be a great choice. the bad guy in infamous 2 is very much inspired by William striker from this book
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I like how Shadowcat stood up for Nightcrawler, when in Days of Future Past it was established she thought he was real gross.
And that, children, is how Professor Xavier learned the most important lesson of all: *"Magneto was right."*
Actually not too long after this, Prof put Magneto in charge of the X-Men in continuity while he (Xavier) recovered from injuries. This was how X-Factor was originally formed. The original X-Men (except Jean since she was dead) refused to follow Magneto and started their own group.
Repent!
1982? So this was pre TDKR and Watchmen. Was this considered 'controversial' for the time?
Definitely.
It very much was due to the content matter and some of the "situations" in the story. Although it does show a point of view that nobody cares about and the ignorance of fear.
This has quickly become my favorite internet show
Facts
Same but 5 years later lol
Legit
This is my favorite X-men story I found it at a church sale along with Death of Captain Marvel when I was a kid I read it over and over till the cover fell off .
+AllaboutnerdsTV Ironic you found this at a church.
CircuitBreaker or divinely guided? I remember Claremont said he one of his old bibles completely 3 time over the course of making this story just to make sure he doesn't say anything sacrilegious.
Why couldn't they just have him arrested for FOR THROWING A WOMAN OF THE STAGE AND BREAKING HER NECK!
Great episode!
Lockdown 2020 has me rewatching every episode of back issues so many forgotten gems lol
Tight character stories can easily work wonders with X-men.
As a Christian and the grandson of a Pastor and son of a worship pastor. I too hate televangelists and think that they are modern Pharisees. I love this book and actually found it because of a book sale at my church.
Also very Ironic that Stryker pointed at the only devout catholic on the team, at that point, as an example of a “non human” mutant
I swear I was just watching the back issues of Days of Future Past wondering "hmm, I wonder if Sal and them are ever gonna do God loves, Man kills?" and then I see this in my sub box lol
Where's the comic about security guard john. That's the hero I wanna hear about.
It's been a year since I started watching ComicPOP (back when the channel was TV Little House), and subscribed immediately. Then somehow unsubscribed, and resubscribed when I realized my error. Anyway... I'm glad you got around to God Loves, Man Kills! It's one of the few TPBs I owned prior to ComicPOP reigniting my love of comics! Woo!
Nice shirts. I definitely want that Vader with Infinity Gauntlet. Also, good references in this one. Those days of the X Men were very motivated by social issues at the time and the story suggests what you're commentary made on point. Good video. I miss the old X Men stories. IDK WTF is going on in them now-a-days.
The wait for this episode was worth it. It is such an great story and I'm glad that you covered it.
Been waiting ALL WEEK!!
Hilarious as always, guys. speaking of Neal Adams, how about a review of his WTF masterpiece, Batman Odyssey?
+b1merio Ugh. I now have two copies of that trade. I've been reading it for that long.
+ComicPOP your response to Batman Odyssey was, "Ugh". I want to understand this "Ugh" you speak of in an episode of your Issues of the Back.
Sincerely yours,
A fan from California.
I've been waiting for this since Old Man Logan!!
Has anybody put up a 'move the car George' trope on TV tropes yet? Ever since Sal brought it up I see it all over the place.
+granaff That would be amazing.
+ComicPOP! I'm on to it!
Been looking forward to this all night :)
Thanks for another great back issues...esp. since it's on a X-Men book.
hey guys just wanted to say thank you for all the video you produce been in hospital for a couple of days and these videos never fail to put a smile on my face thank you guys :D
Get well and come home soon, Sean!
Sal, those little notes you put in the video when you reference a joke in another video remind me of something... Comic book notes! "Batman installed a hologram thing in the GCPD in Batman issue #6" and so forth.
@2:26 cameo by "lil ol ally moore" lol
Thanks Guy's,
you explain it all so well.. and the channel just gets better every time.. Hope to see more soon..
👊✊👍👍👍
I watch the show on my lunch break at work..
Keep kicking ass Guy's..
+Freddy Zavala Thanks Freddy!
This is a well written and drawn book!
A reason why Cyclops and Storm survived the psychic attack that was meant to kill them could be: Xavier canonically helped them build psychic defenses.
love what you guys do! Keep up the good work I'll be watching
Cheers on bringing back the Secret Wars gag. Loved it!
Knowing that there was a title called Xtreme Xmen, completes my life. I'm going to hunt down issues of that because it sounds beautifully 90's
+Kobe Walsh *2000s
oh.... i now feel crushed. well, thanks for the warning haha
I reckon with this and Avengers vs X-men both done, it'd be really cool to do Messiah Complex. It's basically the story of how Hope is born, and features the purifiers heavily, and was a huge X-men crossover (yay for X-factor)
I would love to see them do the Decimation storyline after House of M when Stryker attacked the Xavier students in the New X-Men comic. So many prominent teenage characters were killed during that story and it really cemented Stryker as a purely evil man who is everything wrong with humanity.
True but watching his followers blow up a bus full of children then systematically hunting down and murdering more children really brought it home. Yes they murdered kids in this one too but his whole mission in Decimation was specifically targeting children and that is disgustingly evil.
+pious83 I get it. This story showed he was evil. I think murdering countless more children shows he's even more evil. Now let it go. Both stories are great at showing he's pure evil.
in the future do you guys think you might do Earth 2 (New 52)? i think that story is one of the more darker story's people should know about.
keep up the great work guys and gals!
Electromagnetism is an extremely powerful ability. One of the four fundamental forces of our universe. If you can manipulate effectively you can do most things lol.
I love Ben's expression on the thumbnail. He is trying to stay positive while reading this depressing book lol
This is what got me into the X-Men. Such a great flipping book.
I'm some what new to your channel. I've been watching for a couple months. I haven't been in the current comic scene. I stopped reading and collecting around DC's new 52 which was right before getting married. So my $50-$80 spending on comics had diminished to nothing. I'm slowly getting back to reading. I've really enjoyed the back issue series, it's gotten me wanting to read some of the titles. I will make a request hoping you guys will plan for these some time in the future. I'd like to see a video of two of my favorite runs. DC's 52 and Y: The Last Man. Thanks guys keep making videos and I'll keep watching them.
Thank you for watching! I'll tell you-- both of those series are on my list to do.
John Ostrander's Suicide Squad would make for a good episode of Back Issues.
The guy to the farthest right is so hott. He alone makes the video and you should highlight him more.
WOOO HOOO! somebody's staying up to 11:30 tonight! I'll watch elseworld exchange at 5am, cause #backissues does X-men
Any chance well get battle for the cowl on back issues? Another great episode thanks gents!
I do wish you brought up a bit more about Strykers ideology because it is more rooted in religion than this summary makes it seem. He doesn’t just hate mutants because of his wife and kid being a mutant, but also because in the Bible it states that humans were made in the image of God. That is why he points to Nightcrawler in the end of the book as an example of it being against God’s creation.
Nextwave! Agents of H.A.T.E. Please?
+NobleThoughts Oh, we've got that.
+ComicPOP! YES!
+NobleThoughts NEXTWaaaaaave
Is that the team With Elsa Bloodstone and Photon/Spectre/all the other names
+ComicPOP! Oh my! I'm so happy!
Already commented on this video twice, but I forgot as I started my rewatch binge that I already had this trade prior to finding this channel. I felt almost as bad as Nightcrawler being pointed at by Reverend Stryker!
Every mutant in this comic seems as underpowered as they are in the Bryan Singer X-Men movies.
"Did you read the book!?" is the best thing to use when endings don't make any sense.
27:22 DAMN. XD
I thought this was just a single graphic novel. I didn't realize it was 2 issues. It's one I'll definitely have to check out.
You were right the first time - it was a single graphic novel. They were wrong saying it was two issues. That's also how it was so mature and dark - it wasn't a regular comic.
I always hated how Magneto's psychic defenses made Xavier useless against him. I much preferred Ultimate X-Men where he had to keep his helmet on or he was done.
Great X-men review man :)
Lol they say X-Men is a soap opera yet all anyone cares about for the last decade in Spider-Man is whether or not Peter and MJ will get back together. Extreme double standard there. The X-Men is an extremely well-written, character-driven team, Claremont era especially. Some of the most iconic moments in comics have happened in X-Men. You don't haveta be a fan of them but you can at least acknowledge they deserve their place as comic icons. Spider-Man has never been one of my favorite characters but he definitely deserves his status.That being said, I'm glad you at least liked this story. I know it didn't sound like it at first, but I do enjoy every Back Issues episode. Just figured i'd give an X-Men fan's perspective opposed to the non-fans in Comic Pop. Looking forward to the next one!
And with Magneto's psychic defenses, it was established quite a few times that Xavier taught Magneto how to protect himself from psychic attacks back when they were friends. Just verifying that it wasn't just made up for this story lol.
Giving this a watch, didn't realize it was five years old
Ben's idea of Striker making Xavier killing a unnamed mutant the mutant could have been Morph.
Huh. I didn't think people remembered Morph enough to reference him.
*raises wine glass into the air*
This one's for you, Morph.
Morph was only created for the cartoon which came out 10 years after this, so unfortunately they couldn't have done that altho it would've been cool.
Oh sal you know just how to spoiled me🤗
is there a watchmen back issues episode? if none can you do it? but with sal do the alan moore voice while talking about it, lol gonna be great good episode btw.
Where can I get one those MYAAH shirts?
Another X-Men book, sweet. With Secret Wars #9 out i'm diong the whole thing at once. Here goes nothing.
Sal I think its time to do secret wars (new one that is) back issues. only took about a year for this epic
correct me if i'm wrong but this is the older back issues (explaining now?) you have ever done rigth? i mean you have never gone before 1982at least i don´t remember
+javier solarte I think the original Clone Saga might be the oldest. That was 1973. We didn't change the name, just made the videos easier to search.
ohhhhh the clone saga i forgot about the clone saga ok thanks for answering that to me... cool episode :)
You guys are my long lost white brethren, please continue with this series
I just read this as well. So I look forward to your insight on this.
It was always one book, Graphic Novel. Just sold at higher price. And some stores treated as 18 plus.
Sal if the next crisis you do isn't final crisis I will do absolutely nothing
DC movie News AND Back Issues on the same day?!?! Thank TOAA!
i was wondering what backdrop was that from a couple tangents episodes
i tought it was like a deleted episode...
First and most important love the channel I'm almost done watching everything on your catalog. Nj supports its own. But I can remember hearing read XMen get out of manga. Well I first heard bout this story a few years ago when rob(comics explained) mentioned it. So I was like ok on my read list. Fam, I was done. Loved the story for many reasons.
Yuss! a great classic! Neal Adams woulda killed it, man.
+Martin Aguilar I'm sorry we didn't include the pages... They're awesome.
+ComicPOP! :P
Hey I sent this one!!!
My Senpai's have finally noticed me
+Sam Babar (fridchikn24) Thank you Sam!
By the by, I don't know which Crisis you'll pull out for BI #100, but *if* it's Final Crisis, I'd love to see the next week be Batman: Black Mirror. I'm sure that comes up a lot in the comments section.
I feel pretty sure 100 is gonna be Ultimate Spider-Man to be honest
They should make a movie about this one.
+ComicPop Will you guys do any more Back Issues from Valiant or Image?
Wait, Brent Anderson? Of Astro City? That's awesome. side note, please discuss Astro city.
I went back and listened to some of the other "Back Issues" (again) and landed back into "Avengers vs X-Men". In it you mention X-Men Schism". In a future "Back Issues" could you discuss and review that one?
honestly I'm a little disappointed that you still havent done the 90's clone saga. I was a huge Spiderman fan back in the day and like you the clone saga made me quit reading comics. I would love to see you guys rip that story to pieces
+Hung Sing Martial Arts Association I need to get the trades.
+ComicPOP! unfortunately there is 11 of them to get the complete story. I bought them several years ago to see if the story is as bad as I remembered. it was........
Just so you know for when you do Inferno or any of the other books which involve Ilyana she ages 7 years in Limbo having been stuck there at the age of 7, she is with the New Mutants for at least one year before the events of Inferno which lead to the age regression back to 7, then, of course, she dies from the Legacy Virus which is retconned to have been given to her by her older brother when she and the rest of the new mutants went into the future to see what would happen to them in a few years, her brother says he will cure her and uses the process to initially removing the legacy virus from him to her because the Limbo magics make the Legacy virus not affect her as long as she is related to the magic stuff, with all of that it just overcomplicates she gets legacy virus and dies. After House of M Belasco the person who captured her and raised her partially in Limbo as well as stole parts of her soul tries to bring her back to life because he noticed her having returned to life due to the House of M, he tries but he only resurrects Darkchild who doesn't have a soul(also Belasco was trying to prepare her to be his bride originally and that may be partially why when she gets brought back she's probably 19,-21 or likely whatever language most of the old new mutants are.) Belasco wants to get her soul so he kidnaps all of the new x-men who was in the mansion and DarkChild takes some of Pixie's soul to make a soul sword and this time kills Belasco(first confrontation she didn't kill him because it would make her more demonic). She regains part of her soul in the events of Infernus and starts to work with the X-men, then she joins the new mutants participate in second coming and then unleashes the elder gods and destroys them using Legion and unleashing him such that age of X is caused to completly regain her soul as well as get revenge on the Elder Gods to whom Belasco and the demon N'Asarith(from inferno) were servants to.
Comic pop: we’re not that bold
wtf
This is still my favorite X-men story😁🖤🔥🔥 Cyclops is the Best
Hey Sal, have you thought about making the audio downloadable? I would love to add this my podcast list.
Oh shit, just one more episode for the next Crisis, my mind is not ready.
So is there any follow-up to a famous comic story arc with II in the title that doesn't completely suck?
+Redem10 Crisis
Holyshit, yesterday you guys had 26,600 subs and now today you have 26,710. that's insane.
Um, question, did none of the book characters address the sudden death of that chic that got thrown of the balcony and died cracking her neck on live TV?! Cause I feel like that should've been pointed out more.
Do Grant Morrison's run of New X-Men please please please you've mentioned the genosha massacre event a few time but you should do the comic where it actually happens
when are you going to do X-Men Age of Apocalypse?
Probably when the movie comes out
+Eric Chaney yeah I can't wait until AoA
16:49 that means they're slightly alive
if you guys ever want to play a good x men game. the infamous series would be a great choice. the bad guy in infamous 2 is very much inspired by William striker from this book
I only know the Xtreme X-Men version of this.
Can you guys do Secret Empire?!
Don't they have video evidence of him pushing Fem solo off the podium and ya know killing her?
Anything special planned for episode #100?
A lot less beanies these days…
Bishop has to change clothes at one point in Xtreme X-Men and it's a too small Spice Girls shirt
awesome episode
Please do a back issues on the comic named the joker
Any chance we can get uncanny X-force or just X-force
yes plzzz but marvel
and i see you every where
could you do dark victory please!
just using new titles for search reasons? not worried just staying as Back Issues, right?
+Weggy Vlogs Bingo.
I don't think GLMK was ever released as stand alone issues, it's always been a part of Marvel's graphic novel series hasn't it?
SO MUCH YASSSSSSS!
Hey Sal, What is your favorite Moon Knight story?
So why isn't it called Back-Issues anymore?
it is. The titles are changed to bring in more viewers.
It's Over 9000 Productions Oh okay.