We need to see the chat logs and the “victim”. In the situation. If she’s 17 out there pursuing adults then I could give two fucks less about this. If she’s 13-14 and he went after her then we have an issue.
The Doc doesn't have to show anything he went to court and won his case end of story, maybe the gossip journalists should actually start doing their jobs and find out what the hell Twitch is hiding with any dodgy streamers, Twitch has all the whispers locked away so why have they not exposed\leaked the doc messages. In the court of social media its your guilty no matter what information you share, you might aswell end your life like many innocent people have done thanks to trial by social media.
@@mixichip They settled because Doc won over 6 dgits after he was banned. He was given money because he was "fired" too soon. A contract is on a set number of years. If one of the parties cuts the contract, it must pay the other party.
All I get from this is he was "cheating" on his wife if that counts as cheating. Texting to someone and nothing happened. Doc basically "won" the case against Twitch, when they settled. To me this is a total nothing burger and this has not changed my view of Doc on anyway.
I’m not defending Doc. I don’t watch his streams, and I just don’t like him as a person. But on Twitter, you go after Xeno for him saying that if someone doesnt have proof or receipts, he’s not obligated to believe or trust one’s accusations. You say how it isn’t fair and not everyone has proof. But on multiple occasions in this ‘react’, you literally demand proof from Doc or you have no reason to believe him. So many contradictory statements from you.
All I gotta say is, no one who is innocent starts talking about age of consent laws in the area where the alleged crime took place. Thats creepy and anyone who tries to deny that is also a creep
There was no crime, the Doc was not sued, he sued for illegal contract cancelation. I don't give a f about the Doc, but you internet people have kind of turned the thing around.
@@imc20007 Womp womp, if he did nothing wrong he would release the logs to prove it instead of justifying things by talking about age of consent. Your favourite streamer tried to diddle kids and you are no better for defending him
It is funny, there are still people protecting him. Why don't people scream PDF file when they see him at conventions to keep kids away? If you guys see him in public and say nothing or do not shame him then you are giving him a pass. I am not saying hunt him down but PDF files should not be so bold as to do stuff like this. He is mocking every victim out there of child abuse.
@@jesseritchie9282 Oh, that makes it okay then? He said he DID it and was fired for it. Says the people who fired him are good people. The math adds up he did it, stop defending these people. Do you need them to do it more than once?
@@jesseritchie9282 What you are saying is it is okay for PDF files to do it admit to it, get fired from all their jobs but as long as they entertain you it is okay. Is that what you are saying? So you sold your standards for what? You pay him I bet. Let that sink in, your standards are so low that you pay to be entertained by a PDF file.
Nothing of this add up, if he is innocent suing is the way. But for that to happen he has to expose the chat logs. He purposely said “minor” and “inappropriate” and then said it was a joke. He has to be the most dumb person to do that, does not make any sense. And if he is truly not in the wrong why still banned? All of this make no sense. Usually the right answer is the simple one, he had inappropriate conversations with a young girl, maybe not sexting but still weird as f***. If I was innocent in his situation, sharing the chat logs would be a no brainer. Just having all this justifications makes him more suspicious.
Just out of like.. curiosity.. you know.. but who.. actually asked.. for yours or any persons opinion on the matter. Its people inciting their opinions that spiraled this shit out of control. Why do UA-cam rats need to make their own 30-60 minute video about this like them weighing in means absolutely anything to anyone. People just want views based off other peoples lives
He should be in danger every time he hangs out with kids but nope everyone complains that YT and twitter protect PDF files but then when they go to gaming conventions everyone lines up for photos and no one says a damn thing. Do you guys have to wait for a victim to confront him before you guys stand up to him? Need a hurt person to do your work for you?
@@imc20007 I was a victim of child abuse. Need me to tell Doc to go away for you? I also have PTSD from my years in the military. Oh you thought only his victims would lash out? PDF files fear jail for a reason. Yet they walk around in public around kids without fear because people like you will defend them.
@@imc20007 His victims are not the only ones out there. Some might get triggered when they see him, that is the risk he is taking. Why should victims be revictimized just by his sight, he mocks and makes jokes. People like you do not care about the victims at all. So why should we care to a PDF file? Why do you give the criminal more protection than the victims?
Proof lies with the accuser not the accused
We need to see the chat logs and the “victim”. In the situation. If she’s 17 out there pursuing adults then I could give two fucks less about this. If she’s 13-14 and he went after her then we have an issue.
The Doc doesn't have to show anything he went to court and won his case end of story, maybe the gossip journalists should actually start doing their jobs and find out what the hell Twitch is hiding with any dodgy streamers, Twitch has all the whispers locked away so why have they not exposed\leaked the doc messages.
In the court of social media its your guilty no matter what information you share, you might aswell end your life like many innocent people have done thanks to trial by social media.
He didn't 'win', he settled which can be interpreted as a loss.
@@mixichip They settled because Doc won over 6 dgits after he was banned. He was given money because he was "fired" too soon. A contract is on a set number of years. If one of the parties cuts the contract, it must pay the other party.
@@AnghelVick Yeah, so it doesn't mean he is innocent, it just means he has enough money to buy people's silence.
Why does HE need to show any evidence? Why doesn't Twitch?
All I get from this is he was "cheating" on his wife if that counts as cheating. Texting to someone and nothing happened. Doc basically "won" the case against Twitch, when they settled. To me this is a total nothing burger and this has not changed my view of Doc on anyway.
This would have 1000x more views if you wanted to crucify him. Good on you for not immediately joining the hate brigade.
I’m not defending Doc. I don’t watch his streams, and I just don’t like him as a person.
But on Twitter, you go after Xeno for him saying that if someone doesnt have proof or receipts, he’s not obligated to believe or trust one’s accusations. You say how it isn’t fair and not everyone has proof.
But on multiple occasions in this ‘react’, you literally demand proof from Doc or you have no reason to believe him. So many contradictory statements from you.
Because the doc admitted it already? You aren't making sense. He is trying to double down on what he did not the same thing.
All I gotta say is, no one who is innocent starts talking about age of consent laws in the area where the alleged crime took place. Thats creepy and anyone who tries to deny that is also a creep
There was no crime, the Doc was not sued, he sued for illegal contract cancelation. I don't give a f about the Doc, but you internet people have kind of turned the thing around.
@@imc20007 Womp womp, if he did nothing wrong he would release the logs to prove it instead of justifying things by talking about age of consent. Your favourite streamer tried to diddle kids and you are no better for defending him
It is funny, there are still people protecting him. Why don't people scream PDF file when they see him at conventions to keep kids away? If you guys see him in public and say nothing or do not shame him then you are giving him a pass. I am not saying hunt him down but PDF files should not be so bold as to do stuff like this. He is mocking every victim out there of child abuse.
Cause he wasn't charged as one
@@jesseritchie9282 Oh, that makes it okay then? He said he DID it and was fired for it. Says the people who fired him are good people. The math adds up he did it, stop defending these people. Do you need them to do it more than once?
@@jesseritchie9282 What you are saying is it is okay for PDF files to do it admit to it, get fired from all their jobs but as long as they entertain you it is okay. Is that what you are saying? So you sold your standards for what? You pay him I bet. Let that sink in, your standards are so low that you pay to be entertained by a PDF file.
@@4204PTSD So what are the three unavailable videos hidden on your page?
@@4204PTSD And explain how I was defending him?
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Nothing of this add up, if he is innocent suing is the way. But for that to happen he has to expose the chat logs. He purposely said “minor” and “inappropriate” and then said it was a joke. He has to be the most dumb person to do that, does not make any sense. And if he is truly not in the wrong why still banned?
All of this make no sense.
Usually the right answer is the simple one, he had inappropriate conversations with a young girl, maybe not sexting but still weird as f***.
If I was innocent in his situation, sharing the chat logs would be a no brainer. Just having all this justifications makes him more suspicious.
Just out of like.. curiosity.. you know.. but who.. actually asked.. for yours or any persons opinion on the matter. Its people inciting their opinions that spiraled this shit out of control. Why do UA-cam rats need to make their own 30-60 minute video about this like them weighing in means absolutely anything to anyone. People just want views based off other peoples lives
He should be in danger every time he hangs out with kids but nope everyone complains that YT and twitter protect PDF files but then when they go to gaming conventions everyone lines up for photos and no one says a damn thing. Do you guys have to wait for a victim to confront him before you guys stand up to him? Need a hurt person to do your work for you?
@@imc20007 I was a victim of child abuse. Need me to tell Doc to go away for you? I also have PTSD from my years in the military. Oh you thought only his victims would lash out? PDF files fear jail for a reason. Yet they walk around in public around kids without fear because people like you will defend them.
@@imc20007 Think his victims are the only ones out there looking for revenge? He admitted it so there is no grey zone here.
@@imc20007 His victims are not the only ones out there. Some might get triggered when they see him, that is the risk he is taking. Why should victims be revictimized just by his sight, he mocks and makes jokes. People like you do not care about the victims at all. So why should we care to a PDF file? Why do you give the criminal more protection than the victims?