I still feel like poison units gets way less push when it comes to the new meta. As if they restrict them more. Passives fitting on one page, one being not worth much, 400% damage, random enemy for 1st skill and no attack under 100 TU. I love poison but it's disheartening to see them always given the short stick.
Her passive mentioned stealth. Is she a poison stealth unit? And would Djean be beneficial with her to grant her stealth? Like would she heal Loki with stealth zone bc I dont a stealth active skill..
Nope she has L&C passive (not for the entire time she s in the battlefield, after 300tu she doesn’t have it anymore) Unfortunately this kind of passive is not recognized as stealth, so no synergy with stealth dark jeanne (she won’t be buffed or restored)
Ah thanks! Was confused on that, but it does say she can gains the stealth status effect it cannot be lost when avoiding attacks this way. So will she be able to still gain the stealth effect even after she unlocks the survival skill or will this passive be unless even if the stealth status is applied to her again by Djean. Ik now she won't be healed but maybe atleast evade some attack?
I don't think she'll gain Stealth from AJeanne. Maybe some other unit, in which case she doesn't lose stealth from evading an attack. Feel like it's an FYI in the skill description that will rarely matter
Only for normal hg I guess It was pretty good long time ago when we had most normal hg than hg+ Rn is just a good weapon but you can find even something better Probably for poison characters axe of pangu still fits as the best when it comes to do high damages Pasaddhi can be good as well
It seems like the best weapons for her will be anything with heavy tu reduction like poseidon's fork (easy for her to activate) and probably her signature weapon as well. Edit: Just checked and no, her signature weapon doesn't reduce tu cost at all, so poseidon's fork is definitely the best for now.
I think Loki's main weakness is just how long her tu cost is, she almost feels like a pre-2023 unit in that regard. For me her strength is for sure devil's dance; the fact that she can deal pretty good damage to all enemies and potentially mega poison a lot of them, with a condition that's not too difficult to meet (if the enemy team has no guardian you probably won't struggle to take them out with other units anyway) is a pretty great strength we don't see much in the current meta. We'll have to see what her hate levels are like but I have the feeling they won't be too high until survivor's edict is unlocked, so she should be able to get off a couple of impactful attacks before your guardian dies, and I think she may be able to rip apart some team comps which rely on their units having relatively low hate and hiding behind a guardian, as well as burn, of course.
Overall, I may roll a couple times on her, and if no new exciting units come up by the time she gets her first rerun, I will try to fa her, but I'll probably just focus on maxing out the units I already have
Agree generally. Hate seems to be not too low with poisoned enemies and guardian around even before Survivor's is unlocked. And there's still questions about her prioritization for the first skill
hypnosis has 100% chance to prock if she is fully awakened, I don't think that was mentioned. She has potential, kinda the opposite of odin, a pretty simple unit, only hypnosis as the new thing.
Good point, only mentioned the probability range. Problem is that procing hypnosis on its own doesn't do anything yet, the unit needs to get the turn for Loki to get all the goodies
I think the hypnosis skill will work better when fighting against stronger opponents in that case. Someone with maxed units yk bc they are so hard to kill and live longer. But if your the stronger player then your more likely to kill off the hypnotized enemy
I have 28k gems havent done a single pull yet can you recommend me 3 summons to pull for ? I like Himiko she seems fucking OP but havent see her in your tier list any recommendations ? I want a unit that can carry me through stages from events and story without any issues.
Himiko will be in the December tier list. As for a carry, I think neither Odin nor Loki are good options for that. From upcoming banners, King Arthur might be best. Also the other units mentioned above are good options.
just make sure you save until 30k so you can use the fountain event at the start of every month and in the middle of it, i spent a lot of my early time not doing it and i was basically just wasting free soul stones.
Yeah, I wondered about that but didn't see any answer yet. It's probably 100 TU, maybe certain skill length of enemy though. In which case it might be less in many cases
damn poison unit always getting done dirty lol they should have have given her an op passive one which did alitte more,but maybe the hypno will carry her only time will tell
Hypnosis has to much dossia s vibes and all the problems she has with it to be not enough Zigzag basically doesn’t love poison anymore Fortunately I was too scared for nothing probably 🙈?
Yeah, it really seems that way. Not sure why they like other team types so much more 😝 that being said, could be a nice combo with P1 King Arthur I suppose
I still feel like poison units gets way less push when it comes to the new meta. As if they restrict them more. Passives fitting on one page, one being not worth much, 400% damage, random enemy for 1st skill and no attack under 100 TU. I love poison but it's disheartening to see them always given the short stick.
I agree, same thing back then with Rin, DOssia, DAlice, ARizz over the last year. Only King Arthur being an exception really
Her passive mentioned stealth. Is she a poison stealth unit? And would Djean be beneficial with her to grant her stealth? Like would she heal Loki with stealth zone bc I dont a stealth active skill..
Nope she has L&C passive (not for the entire time she s in the battlefield, after 300tu she doesn’t have it anymore)
Unfortunately this kind of passive is not recognized as stealth, so no synergy with stealth dark jeanne (she won’t be buffed or restored)
Ah thanks! Was confused on that, but it does say she can gains the stealth status effect it cannot be lost when avoiding attacks this way. So will she be able to still gain the stealth effect even after she unlocks the survival skill or will this passive be unless even if the stealth status is applied to her again by Djean. Ik now she won't be healed but maybe atleast evade some attack?
I don't think she'll gain Stealth from AJeanne. Maybe some other unit, in which case she doesn't lose stealth from evading an attack. Feel like it's an FYI in the skill description that will rarely matter
Do you have any idea of when does king arthur comes back?
Think it will be in December
Is fortunatus a good weapon for her? Does the weapon skill work for endure and every type of hold ground?
Only for normal hg I guess
It was pretty good long time ago when we had most normal hg than hg+
Rn is just a good weapon but you can find even something better
Probably for poison characters axe of pangu still fits as the best when it comes to do high damages
Pasaddhi can be good as well
It seems like the best weapons for her will be anything with heavy tu reduction like poseidon's fork (easy for her to activate) and probably her signature weapon as well.
Edit: Just checked and no, her signature weapon doesn't reduce tu cost at all, so poseidon's fork is definitely the best for now.
Thank you!
@@buhguh-r8g probably that one of L/Dsnow even
@@tasosgeorgakopoulos2559 👍👍
I think Loki's main weakness is just how long her tu cost is, she almost feels like a pre-2023 unit in that regard. For me her strength is for sure devil's dance; the fact that she can deal pretty good damage to all enemies and potentially mega poison a lot of them, with a condition that's not too difficult to meet (if the enemy team has no guardian you probably won't struggle to take them out with other units anyway) is a pretty great strength we don't see much in the current meta. We'll have to see what her hate levels are like but I have the feeling they won't be too high until survivor's edict is unlocked, so she should be able to get off a couple of impactful attacks before your guardian dies, and I think she may be able to rip apart some team comps which rely on their units having relatively low hate and hiding behind a guardian, as well as burn, of course.
Overall, I may roll a couple times on her, and if no new exciting units come up by the time she gets her first rerun, I will try to fa her, but I'll probably just focus on maxing out the units I already have
Agree generally. Hate seems to be not too low with poisoned enemies and guardian around even before Survivor's is unlocked. And there's still questions about her prioritization for the first skill
Is this better and stronger than king Arthur and do you think this character worth to pull?🤔
I think King Arthur is stronger. I likely won't pull Loki myself
@@Trucriot when king Arthur banner will come ?
@@Bfn-i8r probably in December
@@Trucriot not this month:( ?
@@Bfn-i8r I'd be very surprised, there's no fountain banners left and King Arthur definitely deserves one
hypnosis has 100% chance to prock if she is fully awakened, I don't think that was mentioned. She has potential, kinda the opposite of odin, a pretty simple unit, only hypnosis as the new thing.
Good point, only mentioned the probability range. Problem is that procing hypnosis on its own doesn't do anything yet, the unit needs to get the turn for Loki to get all the goodies
I think the hypnosis skill will work better when fighting against stronger opponents in that case. Someone with maxed units yk bc they are so hard to kill and live longer. But if your the stronger player then your more likely to kill off the hypnotized enemy
And now,
King Arthur or Loki? 🤔🤔🤔
Think I mention that in the video 😋 Think King Arthur is the better pick currently
@@Trucriot I don't understand English, I use Google to write and understand
Thank you
I got her in my old acc, paired her up with djeanne, shes quite good ig??
Sure, she's definitely a good upgrade over many older units 👍
I have 28k gems havent done a single pull yet can you recommend me 3 summons to pull for ? I like Himiko she seems fucking OP but havent see her in your tier list any recommendations ? I want a unit that can carry me through stages from events and story without any issues.
Wait for dark jenne, light Anya, Cinderella, sleeping beauty
Himiko will be in the December tier list. As for a carry, I think neither Odin nor Loki are good options for that. From upcoming banners, King Arthur might be best. Also the other units mentioned above are good options.
just make sure you save until 30k so you can use the fountain event at the start of every month and in the middle of it, i spent a lot of my early time not doing it and i was basically just wasting free soul stones.
@@Trucriot is that so ? I have seen himikos pretty much carry with that absurd tankiness, healing and multiple 'got turns'
@@n7pankake236 Himiko probably can carry you for a while indeed. I'm just saying that Odin or Loki may not
So whats tier do you think she is ?
Worth to pull and better than odin ?
Odin seems much better overall, but loki will likely help poison teams if you're already really invested in that
First impression is that she isn't really better than Odin. Tier I'll have to think about and will talk about it in in-depth review
damn huge asf
Op unit ❤
But there should be HG+ instead of endure
If she had HG+ she'd be really OP indeed
We don’t know how much tu enemy need to wait after give turn to Loki😂100tu like sleep is ok, if more then op
Yeah, I wondered about that but didn't see any answer yet. It's probably 100 TU, maybe certain skill length of enemy though. In which case it might be less in many cases
damn poison unit always getting done dirty lol they should have have given her an op passive one which did alitte more,but maybe the hypno will carry her only time will tell
Would have liked her to have less reliance on her active skills for Mega Poison too 😅
Waiting for King Arthur 🤩🤩🤩
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King 😎
feels like mega poison isnt their focus sadly
Yeah
Hypnosis has to much dossia s vibes and all the problems she has with it to be not enough
Zigzag basically doesn’t love poison anymore
Fortunately I was too scared for nothing probably 🙈?
Yeah, it really seems that way. Not sure why they like other team types so much more 😝 that being said, could be a nice combo with P1 King Arthur I suppose
@@Trucriot yup but as you said probably KA will be a level over than her a bit
50-50
Mega Poison? 😉
first!!