Sry late reply but it's a method called world scythe. Basically losing 0 DPS ticks while only skipping portals (few diff skips depending on how ur attack cycle is lined up with olm's). It's honestly not that worth on paper since you're taking 100% more damage from olm in exchange for doing like 6% more DPS or something compared to 3:1 lol but it's more engaging than 3:1 and better if you don't die
not sure havent done a cm in ages so havent tried rancour. it sounds amazing for tek/vangs/guards/zgs/melee hand but it would just depend on whether it increases ur olm death rate cause then it stops being worth
wtf my PB after over a hundred attempts of CMs after focusing on getting a good PB is 27:58 Do I just suck or is it just RNG where getting a sub 28/27 or below is unlikely? Like I look at some of your splits and I feel like I have to get a good enough time to be able to PB, as in, something like that 1:36 Tekton would be worth resetting (I would take a 1:10 or below). Maybe the sub 8 Olm is the main reason?
on my absolute worst rng runs (2 anvil tek, 0 ralos ice, slow vangs, slow vesp, 2 crystal vasa, missing zgs at mutt, missing specs @ olm) they end up landing around the 30-31min mark. these runs are pretty uncommon. a very average run is around the 28 minute mark. a run with decent, but not amazing, rng pushes sub 27 which i've had a bunch of. i believe sub 26 is definitely possible with amazing rng, which is what i'm going for passively on these chill/consistent thrall camps. i think if you have max gear and you're thrall camping, sub 27 shouldn't be exceedingly rare to encounter and you're probably making mistakes somewhere if you haven't seen one in 100+ raids. all of this changes if you're actually speedrunning with harm+sbs, zcb, extra mage switches, etc.
Wonderful video which helped me improve from 36 minutes to 27 minutes in a week. I have been chopping the muttadile tree instead of freezing, and I'm wondering what to do when/how often ZGS misses? Obviously, a PB will be impossible, but do we respec small muttadile and how doomed is it? Thanks and GL on dust.
congrats on the improvement! if you miss on small, just re-spec it. it's significantly better to bruteforce through killing big mutt than small mutt. it's around a 3% chance of missing both specs on small. the chances of hitting both specs on big & small is about 55%. so almost half the time you're gonna end up bruteforcing the big kill, in which case you just spam brew->twisted and if it comes down to it, tickeat with sweets until it eventually dies. overall, chopping is definitely better than zgsing for consistency, but the potential timesave from zgsing becomes important when pushing for a pb below the ~26:30 threshold or so
@@gherkinsswhat do you mean by brute force it? Wouldn’t the big muttadile just keep going to the tree & would never die? I’ve normally just been waiting for another spec if my ZGS misses but if there’s a way to brute force it I would love to hear about it!
@@douglasyandeau4073 "brute forcing it" meaning kill the big mutta even when it goes for tree heal. u just tick eat if u have sweets if not chug all the brews u got. its important to kill the small mutta with freeze. but if u miss both freezes with zgs and u have max bis gear its kinda doomed. but not if u have sweets to tick eat with. i think chopping is better for consistency. zgs is prob mostly only for speed runs. wouldnt rely on it if ur hunting dust as the death chances are high and can impact the dust and purple chance
@@douglasyandeau4073 also to add on to that it doesnt heal infinitely. the muttas can only get 3 heals at max each unless u frz in between and start dpsing them hard
can you explain what happens at melee hand? You tank crystal and lightning special attacks but skip the portals, how to set this up? And whats the mechanism behind it if you can explain?
the method is called world scythe and, as you said, the idea is to only skip portals (and healing on p3) while missing 0 ticks on your scythe (i messed it up once at 23:09). it's not like 4:1 where you "set it up", rather you just start swinging and depending on how your attacks line up with olm's attacks, there are different ways to skip portals without missing ticks. the core concept is that when your scythe swings either the same tick or 1 tick after olms actions from lightning onwards, you turn him middle. i remember the skips based on my scythe swing relative to when lightning happens: - scythe is same tick as lightning or 1t after lightning -> instantly turn head mid, tank 2 autos, turn head back to melee hand to skip portals - scythe is 2t after lightning -> scythe 2 more times, turn head mid to skip portals - scythe is 3t after lightning -> scythe 1 more time, turn head mid to skip portals - scythe is 4t after lightning (aka same tick as olms next auto) -> instantly turn head mid, tank 1 auto, turn head back to melee hand to skip portals the most challenging part of world scythe is dealing with acid/flame wall as well as dealing with lightning which can often make doing the skips more difficult
@@Fritszol definitely after. world scythe requires a much more robust understanding of olm, attack cooldowns, drags, etc. 4:1 is kind of "scripted" in the sense that once you're in cycle, you're doing the exact same thing every 4 hits for the rest of the phase. there are only so many things that can happen and you can easily anticipate them (e.g. dodging/nulling flame wall the same way every time, memorising an acid walk to repeat every time, etc.). a lot of world scythe is being able to adapt in the moment to different scenarios without missing ticks or failing the portal skip. benefits: - if done correctly, it's the best dps you can possibly do to the melee hand - don't need to bring a lance as an extra item specifically for olm downsides: - you take about 2x more damage compared to 4:1 - if you're consistently losing ticks or brewing down, it can actually be worse dps than 4:1 - it's significantly harder
hey sorry for being late but im a little confused. u said on tick 2 and 3 after lightning, u scythe 2 more times for 2 and 1 more time for 3 but on Synderis's guide he does 2 more scythe swings regardless if its 2t or 3t after lightning. could u explain?
hard to say, it's obviously better but hard to notice a difference when you're only speccing like 4 times per olm and it's only 5% increased accuracy or whatever. i mostly just love the fact that it's 2 handed
is shadow really better than tbow at Mystics?I was very surprised to see you using it over a tbow.Or is it maybe cause you didnt want to brind a salve ammy switch?
i have my natural left click swapped to prioritise brew>restore>enhance>kodai>ovl i.imgur.com/ARI3t0X.png and i have a shift swap enabled to prioritise twisted i.imgur.com/HkJmyhI.png
My god man. I keep trying to go for solo cm gm time and I keep get 39mins. You are a different breed my guy... ALSO, what is the name of the last song? it was so hype going in to head phase!!
not sure about guides but i made a quick vid on the way i do tekton for u ua-cam.com/video/JZ4OLd2C6Y4/v-deo.html when u get more comfortable there are extra ways to tank venges too in case he keeps hitting 0
@@villesandberg8850 not sure tbh. stopped running these for a while to focus on other goals and im prob gonna tweak the setup when I go back to them to fit in eternals and switch bf for rancor. apparently zcb is good too. but yeah idk what's better just between eternals and slay helm sry
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Just wondering why you are afk scything at melee hand? is that something only for cms? I normally do 3:1 scythe for melee hand in regs
Sry late reply but it's a method called world scythe. Basically losing 0 DPS ticks while only skipping portals (few diff skips depending on how ur attack cycle is lined up with olm's). It's honestly not that worth on paper since you're taking 100% more damage from olm in exchange for doing like 6% more DPS or something compared to 3:1 lol but it's more engaging than 3:1 and better if you don't die
would you bring rancour now or BF has too much value for these?
not sure havent done a cm in ages so havent tried rancour. it sounds amazing for tek/vangs/guards/zgs/melee hand but it would just depend on whether it increases ur olm death rate cause then it stops being worth
dude youre an actual beast! watched it beginning to end
wtf my PB after over a hundred attempts of CMs after focusing on getting a good PB is 27:58
Do I just suck or is it just RNG where getting a sub 28/27 or below is unlikely? Like I look at some of your splits and I feel like I have to get a good enough time to be able to PB, as in, something like that 1:36 Tekton would be worth resetting (I would take a 1:10 or below). Maybe the sub 8 Olm is the main reason?
on my absolute worst rng runs (2 anvil tek, 0 ralos ice, slow vangs, slow vesp, 2 crystal vasa, missing zgs at mutt, missing specs @ olm) they end up landing around the 30-31min mark. these runs are pretty uncommon.
a very average run is around the 28 minute mark.
a run with decent, but not amazing, rng pushes sub 27 which i've had a bunch of.
i believe sub 26 is definitely possible with amazing rng, which is what i'm going for passively on these chill/consistent thrall camps.
i think if you have max gear and you're thrall camping, sub 27 shouldn't be exceedingly rare to encounter and you're probably making mistakes somewhere if you haven't seen one in 100+ raids. all of this changes if you're actually speedrunning with harm+sbs, zcb, extra mage switches, etc.
@@gherkinss guess I suck
thank you based gherkinss I will get the good and be a best
@@TheIvyX Yeah I ran into same problem, my pb in solo is 28 minutes and I cannot for my life break that. Hope you blasted through your pb
@@Rsmvbizz ye got sub 26
Wonderful video which helped me improve from 36 minutes to 27 minutes in a week. I have been chopping the muttadile tree instead of freezing, and I'm wondering what to do when/how often ZGS misses? Obviously, a PB will be impossible, but do we respec small muttadile and how doomed is it?
Thanks and GL on dust.
congrats on the improvement!
if you miss on small, just re-spec it. it's significantly better to bruteforce through killing big mutt than small mutt. it's around a 3% chance of missing both specs on small.
the chances of hitting both specs on big & small is about 55%. so almost half the time you're gonna end up bruteforcing the big kill, in which case you just spam brew->twisted and if it comes down to it, tickeat with sweets until it eventually dies.
overall, chopping is definitely better than zgsing for consistency, but the potential timesave from zgsing becomes important when pushing for a pb below the ~26:30 threshold or so
@@gherkinsswhat do you mean by brute force it? Wouldn’t the big muttadile just keep going to the tree & would never die? I’ve normally just been waiting for another spec if my ZGS misses but if there’s a way to brute force it I would love to hear about it!
@@douglasyandeau4073 "brute forcing it" meaning kill the big mutta even when it goes for tree heal. u just tick eat if u have sweets if not chug all the brews u got. its important to kill the small mutta with freeze. but if u miss both freezes with zgs and u have max bis gear its kinda doomed. but not if u have sweets to tick eat with. i think chopping is better for consistency. zgs is prob mostly only for speed runs. wouldnt rely on it if ur hunting dust as the death chances are high and can impact the dust and purple chance
@@douglasyandeau4073 it only eats from the tree a maximum of 3 times
@@douglasyandeau4073 also to add on to that it doesnt heal infinitely. the muttas can only get 3 heals at max each unless u frz in between and start dpsing them hard
can you explain what happens at melee hand? You tank crystal and lightning special attacks but skip the portals, how to set this up? And whats the mechanism behind it if you can explain?
the method is called world scythe and, as you said, the idea is to only skip portals (and healing on p3) while missing 0 ticks on your scythe (i messed it up once at 23:09). it's not like 4:1 where you "set it up", rather you just start swinging and depending on how your attacks line up with olm's attacks, there are different ways to skip portals without missing ticks. the core concept is that when your scythe swings either the same tick or 1 tick after olms actions from lightning onwards, you turn him middle. i remember the skips based on my scythe swing relative to when lightning happens:
- scythe is same tick as lightning or 1t after lightning -> instantly turn head mid, tank 2 autos, turn head back to melee hand to skip portals
- scythe is 2t after lightning -> scythe 2 more times, turn head mid to skip portals
- scythe is 3t after lightning -> scythe 1 more time, turn head mid to skip portals
- scythe is 4t after lightning (aka same tick as olms next auto) -> instantly turn head mid, tank 1 auto, turn head back to melee hand to skip portals
the most challenging part of world scythe is dealing with acid/flame wall as well as dealing with lightning which can often make doing the skips more difficult
Would you recommend ppl to learn this before or after learning 4:1? And what are benefits/downsides as opposed to 4:1?
@@Fritszol definitely after. world scythe requires a much more robust understanding of olm, attack cooldowns, drags, etc. 4:1 is kind of "scripted" in the sense that once you're in cycle, you're doing the exact same thing every 4 hits for the rest of the phase. there are only so many things that can happen and you can easily anticipate them (e.g. dodging/nulling flame wall the same way every time, memorising an acid walk to repeat every time, etc.). a lot of world scythe is being able to adapt in the moment to different scenarios without missing ticks or failing the portal skip.
benefits:
- if done correctly, it's the best dps you can possibly do to the melee hand
- don't need to bring a lance as an extra item specifically for olm
downsides:
- you take about 2x more damage compared to 4:1
- if you're consistently losing ticks or brewing down, it can actually be worse dps than 4:1
- it's significantly harder
@@gherkinss alright thanks for the elaborate answers, explanations and thanks for sharing your game knowledge. Appreciate it a lot!!
hey sorry for being late but im a little confused. u said on tick 2 and 3 after lightning, u scythe 2 more times for 2 and 1 more time for 3 but on Synderis's guide he does 2 more scythe swings regardless if its 2t or 3t after lightning. could u explain?
What would you chance if you were an Iron and coudnt take purple sweets?
replace sweets with a 2nd stam probably
Brother, crazy run... How do you make boosted stats so little on the left side? I can't seem to find how... Thank you in advance brother
settings > runelite > scroll down to overlay settings > infobox size. mine is 18px
I was ur 300th subscriber w00t🎉
Can you send your Shift click options for picking up potions? So you dont pick up ovl first
no shift click, i just have the left clicks re-arranged in 'Custom Menu Swaps'
i.imgur.com/SWZfYct.png
@@gherkinss thanks any chance you can screenshot your full plugin there? i want to see what more options you have
@@Keinname98 i.imgur.com/ViHMxqi.png
i.imgur.com/6gSCxaa.png
and i have smashing crabs set to 'space' under cox additions
whats the plugin to have items highlighted in the chest but not in inventory
Cox additions. it's at the bottom of the 'prep' section
Which plugin highlights items in the bank interface like that?
Cox additions. it's at the bottom of the 'prep' section
Do you feel the maul spec hitting more often compared to dwh or is it whatever.
hard to say, it's obviously better but hard to notice a difference when you're only speccing like 4 times per olm and it's only 5% increased accuracy or whatever. i mostly just love the fact that it's 2 handed
is shadow really better than tbow at Mystics?I was very surprised to see you using it over a tbow.Or is it maybe cause you didnt want to brind a salve ammy switch?
shadow is very good at mystics compared to tbow. i believe you need salve AND extra ranged switches to make tbow better
didnt realise until halfway through the video i was watching PICKLEMEN
song at 4:09 ?
ua-cam.com/video/f6vaCaJGW8I/v-deo.html
@@gherkinss thank u i love u
Is it possible to share your runelite plugin settings?
which plugins in particular? or do u literally mean the 'runelite' section in the settings
@@gherkinsssorry I didn’t specify, but your CoX settings
How can you prioritize other pots over ovl on vasa?
i have my natural left click swapped to prioritise brew>restore>enhance>kodai>ovl i.imgur.com/ARI3t0X.png
and i have a shift swap enabled to prioritise twisted i.imgur.com/HkJmyhI.png
My god man. I keep trying to go for solo cm gm time and I keep get 39mins. You are a different breed my guy...
ALSO, what is the name of the last song? it was so hype going in to head phase!!
ty and ua-cam.com/video/f6vaCaJGW8I/v-deo.html
You seem to have a very intentional way of doing tekton, any good guides you recommend
not sure about guides but i made a quick vid on the way i do tekton for u ua-cam.com/video/JZ4OLd2C6Y4/v-deo.html when u get more comfortable there are extra ways to tank venges too in case he keeps hitting 0
0 on 1 at vasa… avg
Awesom vid! Also bellator over ultor?
ty and yea ultor for regs, bellator for cms
Playlist link please
These are absolutely fire
playlist - ua-cam.com/play/PL_UsHzCheFcelxfW5-6AnJEvdgkFrx64w.html
specific songs -
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ua-cam.com/video/f6vaCaJGW8I/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/glqujTmJEvo/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/W5j1v2LbaRw/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/YG4Td2MCTmo/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/LiC_WoVHjNo/v-deo.html
Finally some glaiving
yo, bro you should put the hardstyle from the playlist that happens to you B)
gnna copy this setup to learn shadow olm/cms
slay helm or eternals?
@@villesandberg8850 not sure tbh. stopped running these for a while to focus on other goals and im prob gonna tweak the setup when I go back to them to fit in eternals and switch bf for rancor. apparently zcb is good too. but yeah idk what's better just between eternals and slay helm sry
How did you make it so some items were highlighted when you were banking? Scythe rails dwh
Did you try maybe looking at the other comments for 0.0000000001 seconds just a tip for u
@@ro0b0 does it look like I did? XD thanks for writing a useless response and wasting your time
@@Adam-hd4cq bro this video has like 6 comments
@@Adam-hd4cqit doesn't, my question was rhetorical. You're welcome btw
I noticed you didnt have to click -10 when recharging your shadow. I must know this hidden tech
just set a subtract keybind in the plugin
Holy fk nice video
-1.5m in purple sweets lmfao