It is funny to see how INCOHERENT the video is. The first part of the video clearly says that on beats 4 and 8 the foot is UP IN THE AIR, and it doesn't touch the floor until five. And the smiley dancers later don't do that. They just don't. They put the foot on the floor on 4 and 8, and do the pause on 5 and 1. Hilarious. And this is Eddie Torres approved. I can't believe it.
En efecto, Eddie Torres no termina de entender el conteo del contratiempo. En la parte de la pareja bailando cuando ya se escucha la conga, están utilizando el contratiempo, es decir, pisan en cuatro y ocho donde se escucha el doble de la conga cu-cu. El problema es que sus seguidores nunca lo han terminado e entender y defienden, con argumentos inverosímiles, esta inconsistencia.
you're right. I haven't seen the whole video but they are dancing what I think it's called Palladium Style. They are clearly steping on the first beat of the conga, the 8s and the 4s.
I noticed the same. Eddie Torres style you step on 1-2-3 & 5-6-7 as explained, and dancers are stepping on those counts when they are showing some moves, eg. Suzie Q, Cuban step, w/e. BUT when they are doing the basic steps, they are stepping on 2-3-4 & 6-7-8 which is the classic Palladium style afaik. For a beginner this might get quite confusing very fast. Just want to add I'm in no way dissing on Eddie and on his style, as I love his On2 style. It's just strange that they left it like this on an instructional video when it's clearly noticeable.
@@Jowanson33 Well... I don't really know if we should revise this "on 2 style" entirely and face reality: do people ever dance like the theory says in real salsa floors?
@neuropakho As a matter of fact: unfortunately yes, they (we) do! Here in The Netherlands (and in other countries in Europe) that is still the way many/most dance schools teach On2 to this day. Very confusing, but I'm glad people are starting to notice the conflict.
I always found Eddie Torres to have a fantastic voice. A voice is an instrument as well and he has fantastic tone and diction in his voice. His voice definitely inspires movement.
Eddie dances in the video on 2-3-4 & 6-7-8. Pay attention to the pum-pam either 8 or 4 and he puts his foot down! And everything is logical - this is a dance on two and six, as in the Cuban son!!
Way Kool, .....what yr. was this produced. ? I thought this Night club style was strongly influenced by the fancy patterns of the Disco dance " Hustle " what do U think ?
234 for the entire series lol. I feel vindicated. I dance 234.5 678.5 (actually I start on the 8. It's how inlrsrned Son in Cuba and it keeps je on beat best.
I agree. Eddie Torres has done a fantastic job in growing on2 but it's now up to the future generations to improve the methodology and teaching so it keeps growing.
Why don't we call things by their name? Eddie Torres simply screwed up. He didn't really know what he was doing, and he hasn't acknowledged it yet. These videos are incoherent, and they describe a system of dancing that nobody, not even him, uses.
it took so much to understand NY style bc youre overthinking. Jus break on 2 and 6, the rest is up to your artistry. Sometimes we step on 1, sometimes we pause on 1. WHo cares? Its dance, art and improvisition. Thats' why he's a legend and the King.
Eddie Torres NY Style On2 -> 1,2,3...5,6,7 Mambo / Son / Palladium / Power 2 -> 2,3,4...6,7,8 That's it. It's not wrong, it's another way of stepping the 2. Eddie Style makes easier dance on2 for the people that don't find the 2 in the music, so it always starts with 1, like melody. The problem with this video is when Eddie explains and dances, he counts and dance like NY Style. But when a colorful couple appears making a demo, they are dancing mambo, not Eddie Style. So it's confusing.
@@bailopinto Is the footprint different? I mean the "1" is NY Style is the same, only the tread changes? I'm a bit lost. I usually dance on1, would this be a problem if I follow the video? Thanks in advance
@@AlexisJunior in on1, the left foot steps forward in the first time ( can be 1 or 5), on2 the left foot steps forward on the second time (can be 2 or 6)
The men going forward and ladies back is done mainly in the Los Angeles and Cuban salsa styles. New York /Eddie Torres style/ or in another name on 2 salsa style does it the other way around, ladies forward and men back.
For most of the video, they're dancing on2 - but when they first start demonstrating the basic time step in partner position at 28:38, the dancers are dancing on1. When they start breaking down the time step in partner position (at 29:57), the dancers are stepping on2 again.
unfortunately, the way Eddie Torres is teaching how to dance Mambo,it wasn't the way you learnt in Cuba or El Barrio,here in Harlem. It was preceded, before the 5 steps of Joe Piro. There was a difference between the way Anibal Vazquez Joe,(Mambo Ases) show dancing, and the rest of the dancers. In a crowded pista, you can't dance,the way that it been taught in this video.The space requires to dance that way is ludicrous.Back to the forty , in those days,and I think Mr.Torres, is not familiar with dancing Ladrillo style,en un Ladrillito.The ideal was to dance without taking to much space. Well, here it seems that the lady is leading the man.In Cuba,the man lead with the left foot forward,Clave Son, 3/2 or 2/3. The Man en guaperia is Macho.Here in this video,the guy dance with effeminate mannerisms..(paloma)....There were others way to follow the Clave -rhythmic pattern, with The Seco/Tapao of the tumbadoras. The Contrabajo(Double Bass) Los Bongoes,La Botija,ect..Soy,what it was called "Tiger" hick,My grammar is not that good.Ache'
This is true about swing - Lindy Hop....really about a lot of dances-- where the reality is that you have much less space on the dance floor. The left foot back for the lead is standard salsa on 2. Last I heard Eddie Torres is teaching salsa on 2, danced here in NYC, not Cuba. There are certainly plenty of very good salsa on 1 items on UA-cam...why don't you go watch one of them?
Times change. One of the reasons what we call salsa went all over the world and dancing schools surfaced all over the world (including non-Spanish speaking countries like Japan and Italy to name a few), was because it was different to the way it was done in Cuba before the Cuban Revolution. When the traditional Cuban music was married to the North American Jazz sounds, played mainly although not exclusively by Puerto Rican musicians and other rhythms came into the mix, everything naturally changed as it should have been expected. Evolution is the word.
It is funny to see how INCOHERENT the video is. The first part of the video clearly says that on beats 4 and 8 the foot is UP IN THE AIR, and it doesn't touch the floor until five. And the smiley dancers later don't do that. They just don't. They put the foot on the floor on 4 and 8, and do the pause on 5 and 1. Hilarious. And this is Eddie Torres approved. I can't believe it.
En efecto, Eddie Torres no termina de entender el conteo del contratiempo. En la parte de la pareja bailando cuando ya se escucha la conga, están utilizando el contratiempo, es decir, pisan en cuatro y ocho donde se escucha el doble de la conga cu-cu. El problema es que sus seguidores nunca lo han terminado e entender y defienden, con argumentos inverosímiles, esta inconsistencia.
you're right. I haven't seen the whole video but they are dancing what I think it's called Palladium Style. They are clearly steping on the first beat of the conga, the 8s and the 4s.
I noticed the same. Eddie Torres style you step on 1-2-3 & 5-6-7 as explained, and dancers are stepping on those counts when they are showing some moves, eg. Suzie Q, Cuban step, w/e. BUT when they are doing the basic steps, they are stepping on 2-3-4 & 6-7-8 which is the classic Palladium style afaik. For a beginner this might get quite confusing very fast.
Just want to add I'm in no way dissing on Eddie and on his style, as I love his On2 style. It's just strange that they left it like this on an instructional video when it's clearly noticeable.
@@Jowanson33 Well... I don't really know if we should revise this "on 2 style" entirely and face reality: do people ever dance like the theory says in real salsa floors?
@neuropakho As a matter of fact: unfortunately yes, they (we) do! Here in The Netherlands (and in other countries in Europe) that is still the way many/most dance schools teach On2 to this day. Very confusing, but I'm glad people are starting to notice the conflict.
Classic old skool rhythmic dance instruction video. Great dancing, hot chic, and Hilarious 70s disco suit.
I always found Eddie Torres to have a fantastic voice. A voice is an instrument as well and he has fantastic tone and diction in his voice. His voice definitely inspires movement.
Eddie dances in the video on 2-3-4 & 6-7-8. Pay attention to the pum-pam either 8 or 4 and he puts his foot down! And everything is logical - this is a dance on two and six, as in the Cuban son!!
@art_latina: I completely agree with you.
I had the videos in VHS, thanks for adapting them.
Excellent video! I didn't know this existed. Great explanation not only about the steps but how to catch it in the music.
Clear instruction and demo. Thank you!
making history, night club style! ;)
Nobody knows how to salsa in my family but it looks fun for me and my lady to enjoy a night out on the town. Plus I got Puertorican roots.
Same here!! I drive an hour for lessons :)
Its grate !Thank you for teaching !
Thank you!
the Suzy Q was taken from Swing dance from the 1940's " Frankie Manning " was doing this moves at the Savoy Ballroom.
Beautiful
Her swag is celia official😍👌👍
I need her dress! This is a great video!
enjoyable
Почти сальса , только не касино! Кто заметил, что танцуется стиль на 2 и 6! Как кубинский сон!
Way Kool, .....what yr. was this produced. ? I thought this Night club style was strongly influenced by the fancy patterns of the Disco dance " Hustle " what do U think ?
hepcat2kool according to the credits, 1995...I would’ve guessed late-80’s.
Oh no, the very Eddie Torres counting 123 567 but the dancers step at 234 678. (see 7:19)
That's why it took me so much to understand NY style
Wait, so what do I see here? Mambo = Nightclub = On 2 = 234, 678?
234 for the entire series lol. I feel vindicated. I dance 234.5 678.5 (actually I start on the 8. It's how inlrsrned Son in Cuba and it keeps je on beat best.
I agree. Eddie Torres has done a fantastic job in growing on2 but it's now up to the future generations to improve the methodology and teaching so it keeps growing.
Why don't we call things by their name? Eddie Torres simply screwed up. He didn't really know what he was doing, and he hasn't acknowledged it yet. These videos are incoherent, and they describe a system of dancing that nobody, not even him, uses.
it took so much to understand NY style bc youre overthinking. Jus break on 2 and 6, the rest is up to your artistry. Sometimes we step on 1, sometimes we pause on 1. WHo cares? Its dance, art and improvisition. Thats' why he's a legend and the King.
Eddie Torres NY Style On2 -> 1,2,3...5,6,7
Mambo / Son / Palladium / Power 2 -> 2,3,4...6,7,8
That's it. It's not wrong, it's another way of stepping the 2. Eddie Style makes easier dance on2 for the people that don't find the 2 in the music, so it always starts with 1, like melody.
The problem with this video is when Eddie explains and dances, he counts and dance like NY Style. But when a colorful couple appears making a demo, they are dancing mambo, not Eddie Style. So it's confusing.
So Eddie dances on2, but the demonstrations are on1, right?
@@AlexisJunior No, they are dancing also on2, but "mambo" (2,3,4...) instead of "ny Eddie style" (1,2,3...). On2 means "Break on the second time".
@@bailopinto Is the footprint different? I mean the "1" is NY Style is the same, only the tread changes? I'm a bit lost. I usually dance on1, would this be a problem if I follow the video? Thanks in advance
@@AlexisJunior in on1, the left foot steps forward in the first time ( can be 1 or 5), on2 the left foot steps forward on the second time (can be 2 or 6)
Thank you very much, excellent explanation! :)@@bailopinto
This is dance in 2 and not in 1, right?
he was stepping 234 678
Thank you. If you turn it down it can be mistaken for on 1. Also he leafs thebturn on 1 and she does a quarter or half rotation on 2.
Yup... this on 2 Style is, simply, inconsistent. I don't know why such fake and awkard style became so popular.
@@neuropakho omg simply a hater. You jus mad on2 has taken over... lol. Not that inconsistent, 95% of Asia dancing on 2 and most of the world.
@@TheDreamBlog Watch people dance, no one can keep 1-2-3 "on-2" timing, they all fall into on 1 or mambo.
46:16
Why is woman's foot starting on 1 goes forward instead of back, and the man starts on 1 goes back instead of forward?
The men going forward and ladies back is done mainly in the Los Angeles and Cuban salsa styles. New York /Eddie Torres style/ or in another name on 2 salsa style does it the other way around, ladies forward and men back.
Its ON2 NOT ON1
Because he wanted to be different.
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Alguien sabe en qué año saco este video eddie torres????
es de mil novecientos carranza
@@vicenterghez8358 1995.
Name of opening track please....
DO NOT KNOW
oh just found it...with shazam...Fiesta a La king Tito Puente...i should have known.
Can someone confirm that they are dancing “on-2”...I’m just leaning about the differences between the two.
I think He says so at the beginning of the video...and yes I believe they are dancing on2
Yes, they do On2, or in another name New York style salsa.
Ors a variation on yhe POWER2
I think, they do on3 and later on 4
For most of the video, they're dancing on2 - but when they first start demonstrating the basic time step in partner position at 28:38, the dancers are dancing on1. When they start breaking down the time step in partner position (at 29:57), the dancers are stepping on2 again.
unfortunately, the way Eddie Torres is teaching how to dance Mambo,it wasn't the way you learnt in Cuba or El Barrio,here in Harlem. It was preceded, before the 5 steps of Joe Piro. There was a difference between the way Anibal Vazquez Joe,(Mambo Ases) show dancing, and the rest of the dancers. In a crowded pista, you can't dance,the way that it been taught in this video.The space requires to dance that way is ludicrous.Back to the forty , in those days,and I think Mr.Torres, is not familiar with dancing Ladrillo style,en un Ladrillito.The ideal was to dance without taking to much space. Well, here it seems that the lady is leading the man.In Cuba,the man lead with the left foot forward,Clave Son, 3/2 or 2/3. The Man en guaperia is Macho.Here in this video,the guy dance with effeminate mannerisms..(paloma)....There were others way to follow the Clave -rhythmic pattern, with The Seco/Tapao of the tumbadoras. The Contrabajo(Double Bass) Los Bongoes,La Botija,ect..Soy,what it was called "Tiger" hick,My grammar is not that good.Ache'
This is true about swing - Lindy Hop....really about a lot of dances-- where the reality is that you have much less space on the dance floor. The left foot back for the lead is standard salsa on 2. Last I heard Eddie Torres is teaching salsa on 2, danced here in NYC, not Cuba. There are certainly plenty of very good salsa on 1 items on UA-cam...why don't you go watch one of them?
Times change. One of the reasons what we call salsa went all over the world and dancing schools surfaced all over the world (including non-Spanish speaking countries like Japan and Italy to name a few), was because it was different to the way it was done in Cuba before the Cuban Revolution. When the traditional Cuban music was married to the North American Jazz sounds, played mainly although not exclusively by Puerto Rican musicians and other rhythms came into the mix, everything naturally changed as it should have been expected. Evolution is the word.
No entendi ni verga
Its not really dance, its show for TV.