You can say that about basically any 20 year old Chrysler product that isn't a truck platform. That said, these modern RAMs don't inspire a lot of confidence in their longevity.
@Ethan2xm85 The Avenger was an older version of the platform. This platform (called ST-22) was used by the Sebring Coupe, Stratus and Eclipse. The first generation Avenger was dead at this point.
Chrysler was given new life by the minivan during the 1980s. It is so ironic that it will die with a minivan being the last thing to roll off. It’s assembly lines.
@@pmafterdark that’s funny because Chrysler only bought AMC for the Jeep name lol but some part of the agreement required them to keep producing Renault for a couple years as I recall
At the time, I would not have considered buying this car, but it does look handsome to me now. In 2001, I had owned my Olds Alero V6 for 2-3 years, which based on specs was more or less in the same class. The Alero V6 was rated at 170 hp/200 lb-ft, vs. Sebring's 200 hp/205 lb-ft, yet the Alero ran to 60 in 7.7 seconds in MW's test, vs. 8.5 seconds here. I have many times thought that GM probably offered automatics that robbed less power than Ford's or Chrysler's. I liked that Alero, but if I had playing around money now, I'd like to try an old Chrysler in good shape. I've never owned one.
My Dad had an Alero 3.4 and my Mum a Sebring Sedan 2.7 back then. I liked them both but the Alero was my favourite, even tough the Sebring had a little bit more power and a nicer interior. The Alero was very reliable and I still miss it a little. The Sebring was OK, too but my Mom didn't drive much anyway and sold it after only 3 years. The Alero however was in our family for about 8 years.
The Alero is smaller, lighter and has smaller wheels. A 5 speed was optional with the LXi V6 but unavailable on the Alero. That 5 speed LXi V6 does the run to 60 in 6.6sec.
Always pay attention to the wiring diagrams. I was having an alarm system installed in my 1997 Chrysler Sebring Convertible JX. 3 hours into the install, the tech called me at work and said he couldn't figure out the wiring diagram. I asked him. "Are you looking at the coupe manual or convertible?" He says "Coupe", aren't they the same? Well sir, no they are NOT. Get the convertible diagram. Once he had it, the install went much easier. haha. Still have a 2001 Chrysler Sebring Convertible Limited. Love it!!
I drove one of these for years as a second car. So boring and slow compared to my other car but I soon found that this is the one I wanted to drive after working 10 hour days. It didn’t beat me up going over bad pavement, the seats were comfortable and the stereo was way better than it should have been. I couldn’t fault the car for what it was and how little that was paid for it.
@@senseicorey9979 If you saw how well kept my Sebring LXi Limited Coupe V6 5 speed in Kalapana Black with two tone interior & chrome mesh grill is, you would try to buy it from me.
I had a 2004 Dodge Stratus SE that had the upgraded Infiniti sound system installed with the four disk changer. For the time, those sound systems were amazing and performed very well without having to hack up the head unit or stick a grotesque looking speaker box in the trunk. Load up four of your mixtapes with about 20 songs on each disk from your iTunes library and it sounded incredible. Deep base good highs good mids. That is, of course, until the speaker cones popped because of prolonged sessions with the volume knob turned too far to the right. Easy to replace however, getting the OEM speakers from Chrysler was very pricey.
My parents leased a convertible Sebring. They had never owned a convertible before and wanted to scratch that itch. It was actually a really nice car. Top worked well. I don't remember it being super sporty but had enough power.
Yep, and nearly nothing on the Sebring coupe was Chrysler sourced. Blame Mitsubishi. In fairness, I can't recall the last time I saw an Accord coupe or Solara.
It would be hard for young people to understand how impressive the Sebring was when it first came out in the early 90s. The design was literally gorgeous compared to its rivals.
I helped my salesman buddy deliver one of these to Vale, CO - I was the only manual driver he knew that could do it - and he was driving so fast that I almost lost control behind him through the mountain roads, but man, that coupe was a pretty great car to drive.
Neighbor had one when I 1st met them in 2012. Just sat there. Never driven They were old and I helped fill up tires. They passed in 2022 and family wanted gone. I jumped the battery and it cranked right up. Impressive. AC even still worked
This are as rare as hens teeth these days. That said, I’ve always thought this was an extremely handsome design. It gave the Chrysler design language at the time more finesse than some of their more “baroque” offerings did.
It was manufactured in Normal Illinois on the same line as the Eclipse, its Dodge counterpart and the Galant. The plant now owned by Rivian, was literally surrounded by corn fields.
Had one of these with a 5 speed a 3.0 Very fun for what it was. At the time it was 4 years old 60k miles for 10k. Dealership said no one wanted the manual. At around 83k i started to hear a really bad rattle on start up. I guess that particular 3.0 started eating oil lol
They always looked great. At best you could say it was a sporty-looking coupe. It’s powertrain never matched the great bodywork. I’m not saying it should have been a Mustang GT or Camaro Z28 beater but more investment in its powertrain could have made it true performance car competitor with performance to back up its looks.
Dodge Avenger R/T coupes from the late 90's were sharp looking cars - its a shame they never went after the Camaro/Mustang. Same can be said for the 2nd gen Intrepid
I liked the first gen sebring this one isnt bad, but the 41TE trans and being a chrysler, killed it. Rather have the Lebaron, you still see those running
That mitsubishi 3.0 was a POS. Lifter issues and valve seal problems like crazy. I had the DOHC version. You have to know engines well to keep them going.
In 2000, I bought a used '05 Chrysler Concorde. With no fog lights. For it's weight, it had only 166 hp and felt very lackluster with power. What a lemon, lots of weatherstripping issues, electrical problems, mechanical repairs....never again. The Chrysler line up is very slim these days for good reason. I now drive a 2007 Lincoln Towncar and the repairs are pretty much kept to a minimum with 100 more horse power. Nothing beats air suspension. I'm much more happier now with my TownCar. Ok here, from Chrysler Concorde, the good: Never stalled, a good 3.5 liter V6 engine, protected me in a crash in the city. The bad: After taking three passengers and some luggage to the lake ( 2 hours drive) the Concorde was steaming and heated up for a V6, steering issues (alignment), Chrysler wouldn't help my auto repair shop with getting a new computer to replace the one that went bad, easily rusted when I wash the car every week and drive on country roads, wouldn't start in winter after 8 years of buying the car, etc.
@@user-sk1eh3pg6j It was still a shitty car just like that generation of Mitsubishi Eclipse. It was just a bad time in general for anything made by Chrysler.
The what? Who even remembers this thing? HAHAHAHA If you own one of these today or have seen one on the road in the last 5 years, I'd love to hear about it. I bet 99.9% of these are in the junkyard. Mitsu/Chrysler quality, lol.
These didn't sell well (compared to GM competitors) and they disappeared from roads quickly. Uninspired powertrains. I'll take an Oldsmobile Alero every day of the week over this. (My profile pic indicates I did) 😂😂
Wrong, they did sell well. Wrong, they last alot longer than the Alero and Grand Am. They're still on the road, like mine. These are built by Mitsubishi. Call it stretched Eclipse or Galant coupe. If you want an inspiring powertrain quit being a wuss for a slushbox and get the V6 5speed like i did. 0-60 in 6.6secs with V6 5 speed.
Yeah, these cars were way larger than an Alero. As someone who drove both they were completely different. The Alero was small and cramped by comparison. The Sebring had midsize interior space, the Alero was only a compact. Someone calling something uninspired when compared to a lazy rebadged Grand Am is laughable, too.
Wow that front end is horrible looking. It looks like a catfish with down syndrome. I thought the Sebring coupe looked different back then. I know that the convertible looked much better. It’s a shame the styling went this way. This was one of the best looking cars just a few years earlier and the best selling convertible in America.
@@gedaman It's a good thing. They got the bulletproof Mitsubishi 6G series V6 and the reliable Mitsubishi transmissions. Not the failure prone Chrysler 2.7 V6 and unreliable UltraDrive transmission. The coupes were also built much much better with higher quality. As far as looks, the convertible looks like a sedan with its roof chopped off.
@@user-sk1eh3pg6j Chrysler has always usually had crappy powertrains like their 4 cylinder engines they used to put in the Dodge Neon or like you said the 2.7L V6 which they later used in the LX platform cars like their Chrysler 300 and Dodge Charger. Their transmissions sucked too which is why they later switched over to ZF 8 speed automatic transmissions and sometimes made the bad decision to go with the terrible ZF 9 speed automatic transmissions in cars like their short lived second generation Chrysler 200 V6 model. Jeeps are pretty awful too.
@@gedaman The most reliable stuff they had was their own 2.4 4 cylinder, their own 3.3/3.8 pushrod V6 and their own 3.2/3.5 V6. Everything else was junk.
Back when Chrysler cars... existed.
You never see these still running today.
some of the convertibles are here in the desert - old owners
The Sebring convertible is a totally different car and isn't related to the Eclipse. Those sold much better than coupes.
You can say that about basically any 20 year old Chrysler product that isn't a truck platform.
That said, these modern RAMs don't inspire a lot of confidence in their longevity.
@hak1985org Exactly. UA-cam commenters always ready with anecdotal, heavily opinionated commentary than actual fact and following context.
OP is dumb because you can’t hardly find any 2000s car that isn’t a Toyota or Honda
Chrysler needs to start making these kinds of cars again. Look at how CLASSY and SPORTY it was. We DONT want more trucks and suvs!
The market wants the trucks and SUVs, they don't build those they're done for. Then again, they don't build anything so that's no better 😂
Well said! I still have an Intrepid and an imperial!
@@hiro55cool Wrong, the automakers are forcing trucks and suvs on people like Ford & Chrysler.
Why? So 14 people would buy them?
Agreed, but the market for now is catered to with trucks and SUV's. I hate it too and would like to see some return of actual cars.
So we are just going to ignore the lack of volt meter and oil pressure gauge?
Maybe John had given up at this point. Lol.
Hahaha 😂
I don't have coolant gauge as well.
@@fv7765It has a coolant temperature guage
@fv7765 Fuel on the left, coolant temp on the right. Difficult to see with the lighting
I never knew that it was an Eclipse! Interesting information.
Seriously I would have never guessed but I suppose Chrysler and Mitsubishi were friends with benefits for a long time lol.
@@glanzera I think it was actually the Avenger, which was a stretched Eclipse, so not exactly the same.
A whole slew of cars based on the Galant.
@Ethan2xm85 The Avenger was an older version of the platform. This platform (called ST-22) was used by the Sebring Coupe, Stratus and Eclipse. The first generation Avenger was dead at this point.
@@glanzerathey were built on the same production line in Normal IL.
And today. Chrysler is on the brink of closure. Only making one car, a minivan.
In 2001, as Plymouth was on it's way out of here, I never imagined Chrysler would follow a similar trajectory only 23 years later.
Chrysler was given new life by the minivan during the 1980s. It is so ironic that it will die with a minivan being the last thing to roll off. It’s assembly lines.
The Italians only took it for the Jeep name and those are total junk now. They could give a crap about Chrysler.
@@texan903 In 2001... Episode date: 10-25-2000.
@@pmafterdark that’s funny because Chrysler only bought AMC for the Jeep name lol but some part of the agreement required them to keep producing Renault for a couple years as I recall
Doesn't exist in my eyes anymore. I don't think I've seen one the road in at least 10 years.
Because they were garbage.
Mitsubishi’s V6 was always a smooth strong unit
Mine in Australia is so reliable.
I wish Chrysler would make a comeback with their stylish cars!
They were both beautiful cars.
At the time, I would not have considered buying this car, but it does look handsome to me now. In 2001, I had owned my Olds Alero V6 for 2-3 years, which based on specs was more or less in the same class. The Alero V6 was rated at 170 hp/200 lb-ft, vs. Sebring's 200 hp/205 lb-ft, yet the Alero ran to 60 in 7.7 seconds in MW's test, vs. 8.5 seconds here. I have many times thought that GM probably offered automatics that robbed less power than Ford's or Chrysler's. I liked that Alero, but if I had playing around money now, I'd like to try an old Chrysler in good shape. I've never owned one.
My Dad had an Alero 3.4 and my Mum a Sebring Sedan 2.7 back then. I liked them both but the Alero was my favourite, even tough the Sebring had a little bit more power and a nicer interior. The Alero was very reliable and I still miss it a little. The Sebring was OK, too but my Mom didn't drive much anyway and sold it after only 3 years. The Alero however was in our family for about 8 years.
The Alero is smaller, lighter and has smaller wheels. A 5 speed was optional with the LXi V6 but unavailable on the Alero. That 5 speed LXi V6 does the run to 60 in 6.6sec.
Always pay attention to the wiring diagrams. I was having an alarm system installed in my 1997 Chrysler Sebring Convertible JX. 3 hours into the install, the tech called me at work and said he couldn't figure out the wiring diagram. I asked him. "Are you looking at the coupe manual or convertible?" He says "Coupe", aren't they the same? Well sir, no they are NOT. Get the convertible diagram. Once he had it, the install went much easier. haha. Still have a 2001 Chrysler Sebring Convertible Limited. Love it!!
I drove one of these for years as a second car. So boring and slow compared to my other car but I soon found that this is the one I wanted to drive after working 10 hour days. It didn’t beat me up going over bad pavement, the seats were comfortable and the stereo was way better than it should have been. I couldn’t fault the car for what it was and how little that was paid for it.
A v6 manual that's still on the road has got to be one of the rarest unicorns out there
I saw a manual V6 for sale at a dealer near Columbus Ohio earlier in 2024. Low miles and great shape.
Always amazed when I see these on the road still. Always tell the driver they've done a great job keeping it around.
It is absolutely a backhanded comment.
@@senseicorey9979 If you saw how well kept my Sebring LXi Limited Coupe V6 5 speed in Kalapana Black with two tone interior & chrome mesh grill is, you would try to buy it from me.
It's been years since I last saw one of these.
After inflation, that's $35k for the base model and over $39k for the LXi. As tested price of $42k. YIKES!
Makes sense since the average new car price *today* is approaching $49,000. So it was reasonably priced then and now even by today's standards.
I had a 2004 Dodge Stratus SE that had the upgraded Infiniti sound system installed with the four disk changer. For the time, those sound systems were amazing and performed very well without having to hack up the head unit or stick a grotesque looking speaker box in the trunk. Load up four of your mixtapes with about 20 songs on each disk from your iTunes library and it sounded incredible. Deep base good highs good mids. That is, of course, until the speaker cones popped because of prolonged sessions with the volume knob turned too far to the right. Easy to replace however, getting the OEM speakers from Chrysler was very pricey.
My parents leased a convertible Sebring. They had never owned a convertible before and wanted to scratch that itch. It was actually a really nice car. Top worked well. I don't remember it being super sporty but had enough power.
@@48Boxer Just so you know the Sebring coupe is built by Mitsubishi it is a completely different car than the Sebring convertible/sedan.
The convertible Sebring was unrelated to the coupe. It was based on the Sebring sedan totally different car
@@303nitzubishi4 Finally someone that knows! I love your username BTW 😉
@@user-sk1eh3pg6j wow didn't realize. I am now thinking it was a first gen anyway so probably even more different
@@48Boxer If it had a 2.5 V6 yeah first gen.
I don't live in the rust belt, so lots of 20-30 year old cars are still around. The Chrysler Sebring is not one of them 😂
Yep, and nearly nothing on the Sebring coupe was Chrysler sourced. Blame Mitsubishi. In fairness, I can't recall the last time I saw an Accord coupe or Solara.
It would be hard for young people to understand how impressive the Sebring was when it first came out in the early 90s. The design was literally gorgeous compared to its rivals.
I helped my salesman buddy deliver one of these to Vale, CO - I was the only manual driver he knew that could do it - and he was driving so fast that I almost lost control behind him through the mountain roads, but man, that coupe was a pretty great car to drive.
Neighbor had one when I 1st met them in 2012. Just sat there. Never driven
They were old and I helped fill up tires. They passed in 2022 and family wanted gone. I jumped the battery and it cranked right up. Impressive. AC even still worked
This are as rare as hens teeth these days. That said, I’ve always thought this was an extremely handsome design. It gave the Chrysler design language at the time more finesse than some of their more “baroque” offerings did.
I did not know it shared a platform, but I totally see it now.
6:33 John: ALTHOUH WE'RE STILL NOT QUITE SO SURE ABOUT THAT CORN! LOL
It was manufactured in Normal Illinois on the same line as the Eclipse, its Dodge counterpart and the Galant. The plant now owned by Rivian, was literally surrounded by corn fields.
I have to say, it’s still a good looking car. And I say that while admitting I haven’t liked many Chrysler designs in the last several decades.
In HS (2019) my classmate/ team mate had this, idk about now but i found it pretty cool
These aged pretty well honestly!
Had one of these with a 5 speed a 3.0 Very fun for what it was. At the time it was 4 years old 60k miles for 10k. Dealership said no one wanted the manual. At around 83k i started to hear a really bad rattle on start up. I guess that particular 3.0 started eating oil lol
Boy that's an interesting looking Aston Martin
I would never have known until I watch this video that this Sebring used the same chassis as the Mitsubishi eclipse which is crazy!!!
I've been looking for one of these or a Stratus RT with a manual. It's been a hard search.
Really nice looking in person with an excellent interior, I looked for a v6 5-speed but they don't seem to exist!
I used to build these in Normal IL, now where they build Rivian.
That rocks
I haven’t seen one of these in ages
There's a reason you never see these things on the roads anymore. They were absolute turds in terms of reliability
I had a '02. When I bought it the dealers have leftover '01s. These cars didn't sell in my area.
Mine was reliable except for the wheels and tires.
Blame Mitsubishi
@@herbiehusker1889 Oh for sure but Chrysler products weren't better. Lol
Leave it to Chrysler to still have leather as an option for their top trim 😂😂
@@herbiehusker1889i would blame Chrysler on this one. Mitsubishi was slightly more reliable back then with majority of their cars!
How are all of these older videos so high quality?
Not (1) driving daily on the road today even though it’s a “New Millennium” car 😢…..
Mitsubishi Galant coupe with a Chrysler badge on it. Fun reliable cars with the V6 + 5spd.
I really like the look of it.
Here in Vermont, these don't even really exist in junkyards anymore, let alone out on the road lol handsome looking vehicles though.
I remember getting in one back when I was an oil changer. I was thrown off with it’s eclipse interior.
The standard ride height makes it look like a cracked-out crossover lol.
Dang an Eclipse? Wow
Looks like that joke about a pic on the house of Chrysler was more powerful than John knew. Now they don’t even make a car anymore.
They always looked great. At best you could say it was a sporty-looking coupe. It’s powertrain never matched the great bodywork.
I’m not saying it should have been a Mustang GT or Camaro Z28 beater but more investment in its powertrain could have made it true performance car competitor with performance to back up its looks.
Dodge Avenger R/T coupes from the late 90's were sharp looking cars - its a shame they never went after the Camaro/Mustang. Same can be said for the 2nd gen Intrepid
Wow! Thats hardly heinous looking at all 😂
So classy
Ahhhh, yes, I got the Chrysler Sebring coupe pea 🫛 edition with the optional corn 🌽 inspired interior.
I liked the first gen sebring this one isnt bad, but the 41TE trans and being a chrysler, killed it. Rather have the Lebaron, you still see those running
Coupe because it has unique body panels compared to the 4 door but Ive always considered these 2 door sedans
I wouldn't be too sure about that corn either. ☠
This is also a DSM car which is funny.
Out of the three designs. Sebring , stratus rt. , eclipse . I think the stratus is the best looking .Don’t like the ribs on the side of the eclipse
wow forgot about this car.
Whar does Chrysler and Honda have in common? ZERO COUPES TODAY
An early 2000s Cordoba.
Speaking of ears of corn, check out the driver.
Bring back Chrysler!
Nah.
@@SnarkyRCI’ll take a dodge over a Toyota with a junk frame
The v6 worked better with the manual.
That mitsubishi 3.0 was a POS. Lifter issues and valve seal problems like crazy. I had the DOHC version. You have to know engines well to keep them going.
Lesssss gooooo
The convertible was better.
This could have been the 200.
A coupe, sedan and convertible 200 would be great. Especially if it was the concept that came out around 08.
In 2000, I bought a used '05 Chrysler Concorde. With no fog lights. For it's weight, it had only 166 hp and felt very lackluster with power. What a lemon, lots of weatherstripping issues, electrical problems, mechanical repairs....never again. The Chrysler line up is very slim these days for good reason. I now drive a 2007 Lincoln Towncar and the repairs are pretty much kept to a minimum with 100 more horse power. Nothing beats air suspension. I'm much more happier now with my TownCar.
Ok here, from Chrysler Concorde, the good: Never stalled, a good 3.5 liter V6 engine, protected me in a crash in the city.
The bad: After taking three passengers and some luggage to the lake ( 2 hours drive) the Concorde was steaming and heated up for a V6, steering issues (alignment), Chrysler wouldn't help my auto repair shop with getting a new computer to replace the one that went bad, easily rusted when I wash the car every week and drive on country roads, wouldn't start in winter after 8 years of buying the car, etc.
You bought a car four years from the future?!?!?
Now all we have is a minivan
Yep. Chrysler has been on life support for years.
Loved by divorcées, retirees, and rental fleets everywhere - aka, Florida.
Looks like a jelly bean
Looks like a catfish. US automakers have made some really shitty cars. That 3.0 v6 was an absolute POS. Valve guides were basically gone at 80K.
I guess that Mitsubishi partnership didn’t pay off… 😂😢
@@gedaman It did pay off. Do your research. These were built by Mitsubishi with significantly higher quality than the Sebring sedan/convertible
That's not the same 3.0 liter V6 you are referencing.
@@user-sk1eh3pg6j It was still a shitty car just like that generation of Mitsubishi Eclipse. It was just a bad time in general for anything made by Chrysler.
To bad that GM, Ford, Chrysler only build clunky ugly cars.
Typical trash from Chrysler.
Thers a Dodge Chrysler dealer 5:38 were tone on lot in every coler now a car like this is extinct 😢
The what? Who even remembers this thing? HAHAHAHA If you own one of these today or have seen one on the road in the last 5 years, I'd love to hear about it. I bet 99.9% of these are in the junkyard. Mitsu/Chrysler quality, lol.
That styling did not age well at all
These didn't sell well (compared to GM competitors) and they disappeared from roads quickly. Uninspired powertrains. I'll take an Oldsmobile Alero every day of the week over this. (My profile pic indicates I did) 😂😂
Wrong, they did sell well. Wrong, they last alot longer than the Alero and Grand Am. They're still on the road, like mine. These are built by Mitsubishi. Call it stretched Eclipse or Galant coupe. If you want an inspiring powertrain quit being a wuss for a slushbox and get the V6 5speed like i did. 0-60 in 6.6secs with V6 5 speed.
Yeah, these cars were way larger than an Alero. As someone who drove both they were completely different. The Alero was small and cramped by comparison. The Sebring had midsize interior space, the Alero was only a compact. Someone calling something uninspired when compared to a lazy rebadged Grand Am is laughable, too.
@@user-sk1eh3pg6jI haven't seen one of these on the roads in a good decade.
Alero was a complete girls car 😂 give me a Buick or a monte or a Grand Prix
Damn that's an UGLY late to the 90s party jellybean design!
These were junk
Wow that front end is horrible looking. It looks like a catfish with down syndrome. I thought the Sebring coupe looked different back then. I know that the convertible looked much better. It’s a shame the styling went this way. This was one of the best looking cars just a few years earlier and the best selling convertible in America.
There were 4 generations of Sebring coupe this was the 3rd gen. They are built by Mitsubishi and not related at all to the Sebring sedan/convertible.
@@user-sk1eh3pg6j It’s so odd that they were made that way. The convertible looked much better all around.
@@gedaman It's a good thing. They got the bulletproof Mitsubishi 6G series V6 and the reliable Mitsubishi transmissions. Not the failure prone Chrysler 2.7 V6 and unreliable UltraDrive transmission. The coupes were also built much much better with higher quality. As far as looks, the convertible looks like a sedan with its roof chopped off.
@@user-sk1eh3pg6j Chrysler has always usually had crappy powertrains like their 4 cylinder engines they used to put in the Dodge Neon or like you said the 2.7L V6 which they later used in the LX platform cars like their Chrysler 300 and Dodge Charger. Their transmissions sucked too which is why they later switched over to ZF 8 speed automatic transmissions and sometimes made the bad decision to go with the terrible ZF 9 speed automatic transmissions in cars like their short lived second generation Chrysler 200 V6 model. Jeeps are pretty awful too.
@@gedaman The most reliable stuff they had was their own 2.4 4 cylinder, their own 3.3/3.8 pushrod V6 and their own 3.2/3.5 V6. Everything else was junk.
Good looking POS lol. 2.7 nightmare, interior fell apart even if babied.
These never came with a 2.7, only the sedan.
Yawn. Boring looking car imo. Nice color red though.