Carl has a great Talent in explaining and presenting in Front of a camera. Almost sounded scripted. Very eloquent. Great addition to the team. He clearly knows his stuff.
Just another associate teaching us more minor flaws so we as consumers can be further entitled! DEALERSHIPS BEWARE! at least after production catches up again. Nice work Carl. Looking forward to getting more insights from you.
Carl is a wealth of useful and interesting information. I never thought I needed to know, care, or want to know how a car interior comes together. Carl made the subject come alive and interesting . Well done Carl and Sandy!
Ditto and you guys seem to complement each other well. Carl seems like he's worked in front of a camera before and is a natural. Not sure how he'd be solo, but I really do like the dynamic between you two.
@@manchuriancandidatethe3rd101 More importantly some people need to exercise better control over their mouths and their opinions. You're not adding anything useful here. Please go away.
Well done indeed! Welcome Carl, want to hear more of you. But on the seat motors I agree with Sandy: My Model 3 is like two different cars which both my wife and I drive. Seats, heating, driving style and steering mode all adjust automatically to either driver and I love that part. I would never buy a car that doesn't have memory seats ever again.
LOVE the new talent at Monro - having someone that knows interiors like this is HUGELY insightful. Can literally price out "this pattern is 4x more than this one" - fascinating!
What an addition to the team Carl is, no waffle, no filler or stating the obvious , a real interesting insight and experienced talk through, really enjoyable.
Yay Carl! Love to hear the details of a true expert - he's certainly done his 10k hours on interiors! I know some may think this is all too mundane and the videos are too long - I am SOLIDLY in the opposite camp - I want more! Was thinkin the other day that's I'd probably tune into a 24/7 livestream of the teardown :) Love seeing "my" car getting torn down (ok... so I only contributed $50, but still love it!)
The only problem I have is that he was describing some things and the camera wasn't showing it. So, I had a hard time visualizing what he was talking about. An example was the stitching on the dash that he said became wider toward the right. He was pointing in that direction, but the camera was too far away to pick it up.
wait until you go and purchase a vehicle, the sales guys will hate you...lol. When you know more about the product then they do, it makes it very uncomfortable for them.
Man, what a great hire your guys! Carl clearly knows his stuff and I love the “antique road show” vibe that he carries with him. Self actualized in his work. Go Sandy, go Cory, go Carl, go Tesla :)
Carl seems like one of those guys who really knows their stuff, but does not come across as a know it all. Very articulate as well. Good addition to the team!
In all the vehicle accidents I attended as an emergency services worker over 3 decades I never saw anyone with broken wrists from airbag deployment. I saw a lot of abrasions, a few suspected broken noses which may be hands or arms flying into face when steering one handed with arm across steering wheel and hand at 12 or 11 o’clock. Thumbs get hurt sometimes as the hands fly forward while the thumbs are hooked on steering wheel but no broken elbows and I have seen people in their 80s and 90s get out (or be cut out) of cars with airbags deployed and only abrasions to foreheads and faces. The seatbelt can really do some bruising too if the car doesn’t have pre-tensioners and or you don’t wear it properly and in extreme cases even if you do. Bottom line, don’t sit too close to steering wheel, don’t have the back reclined like you are settling in to watch a movie and wear the seat belt properly because all the safety equipment including crumple zones, collapsible steering column, seat belt pre-tensioners, anti submarine seats and airbags are designed to work in conjunction with each other if used properly. I suspect the yoke steering wheel is no more or less safe than any other but I would like to see some proper testing before I made that conclusion. Further, I have been to many lectures and talks by many experts over the years whose expertise in one field is fascinating to listen to but they then speak with almost the same gravitas in areas where they are less than expert. The problem is that people will listen and believe information that is really no more that educated intuition if they don’t take note of when the real expertise ends and the guessing begins.
I know someone who got bad burns on their arms from the airbag friction. Did you ever see that ? Also I try to grip the wheel on the lower half most of the time , it is safer and more comfortable for me . Also if the steering is not mechanical but ,electrical. They should change the steering ratio with speed . So you do not need to turn as much .
@@rayRay-pw6gz I'm no expert, but I think the easiest way to figure out the safest way to sit in a car is to look at how a crash test dummy is seated for that particular vehicle. It makes sense to me because crash testing and safety systems validations are generally designed around that
Except the crash teat dummies have no skin. 😃 actually today because of the use of airbags, the insurance institutes drivers training course recommended that the hands should be below center of the steering wheel. And also smaller drivers are placing themselves to close to the steering wheel . Airbags cause many injuries that could be avoided with knowledge . 🇺🇸✌️👍❤️
Carl is a great addition to your team. He’s so informative and also a natural in front of the camera. Can’t wait to hear more from him and the rest of your team as the car is torn down.
Having lived with a Y for 40K+ miles, I really appreciate how easy the PVC seats are to clean - much easier to clean than the leather interiors I’ve had in previous cars. Thanks for these videos - love them!
Normally I very much dislike leather interiors - just don’t like them and prefer cloth by far. But I do like my Y‘s seats. They are very comfortable, don’t make me sweat, don’t make me slide around, don’t let me shiver in the cold when not heated and are a pleasure to clean.
When someone tells the cost per square meter/feet of different fabrics/vinyl/leather you know the person knows very well about the subject. Excellent Carl! Welcome to the team.
ACTUAL BUYERS don't care about Tesla's cost/meter²! They care about livability of interior of $103k car (cheaper S w/FSD). All these comments from lookers,not buyers; not useful.
Munro's leadership shows up here! I love that he gave air time to Carl (who is absolutely one of the best!) and allowed him to express himself freely. Done like a true Leader. Kudos Mr. Munro!
This series so far is proving to be a real education . It’s a real privilege to listen to someone like Carl sharing their knowledge and experience. Thanks to you all.
Thank you Sandy for highlighting new employee's in your video's. I can see why people should gravitate to working for Munro & Associates. Your team is the objective and the results show us all that...
munro team getting even sharper bringing in industry experts on top of the already amazing team of engineers and industry veterans. didn't think it was possible but your team/this page just keeps getting better!💚👍👍
This IS Munro Live at its finest.... eloquent explanation of the deep engineering that goes into ( and hopefully we get to experience in) great vehicles. Beautiful presentation, gentlemen!
Welcome aboard Carl! Great job! You’re a natural and look forward to hearing you articulate all the little details that i look for but can’t put into words, great hire Sandy! Give him a raise already.
Beautifully explained. Lots of new info regarding interiors, and all made sense and was easily understood. Looking forward to seeing more of this presenter!
Good to see you guys back into real and detailed engineering stuff. Carl knows what he is talking about from true experience, skills and interest, bum. Keep them coming, glad I posted you guys a 50 note to duck into this beast of a car.
Love this series!!! Being a former Industrial Designer you guys cover all the bases! Key takeaway: design the high-end product first then trickle down (which Telsa did). Great Stuff!
As someone who has disassembled the steering column of the Plaid plenty of times, I can tell you for certain that the shrouds are hard plastic and are absolutely NOT wrapped as claimed at around 7:30 in the video. Very strange of them to not know the difference between plastic and something else. In fact, I even have detail in my channel of the fact that the shroud is a slightly reworked Model 3 shroud design. It wasn't specifically engineered for this car at all. The SCCM underneath is directly out of a Model 3 as well. This is *good* btw, because they reused parts instead of starting from scratch.
That is the big problem with the UA-cam model. They strive to get more subscribers and the level of content is second thought . Thank you for your information. All in all they did a good job .
Carl is great, what a wealth of information. Not to nit pick, but coach him to speak (and look) at the camera and not so much at Sandy. Very much looking forward to Carl’s continuing analysis as teardown progresses.
Great content. Always maintaining a high bar. Well done Carl. You seem happy to be there. I half expected you to make the pitch for HR. Good to see. Good choice Sandy.
Carl was an excellent addition to your crew Sandy, glad to hear his expert opinions on the interior. Great job Carl! Thanks as always for all your hard work Sandy and the entire crew!!
I own a Model 3 and the power seat is a life saver for me! The seat will move to the "Easy Entry" position when in park and the seat belt is unbuckled. I have a bad back and this makes exiting and entering the vehicle much easier. The car will return to your desired settings when you enter the car and press the brake. Also you can add driver profiles for different drivers. With a touch of on the control panel, a different drivers seat settings will set up. In addition to the seat the steering wheel and side mirrors will return to your settings as well.
Yup. My wife is much smaller than I and it's a must to have a power memory driver seat for us. My old ICE car even has adjustable memory gas/brake pedals. Elon cancelled a power front passenger seat in Model 3 & Y. This made sense. Carl would approve 😁
Same here. Model 3 and I’m 6’3” with a bad back. Love the easy entry. My wife and I share the car. Driver profiles are linked to our phones. Never have to touch any controls. Love that about the car!
Great presentation. I'm an old mechanic and I specialize in electrical and mechanical. You guys have taught me so much about fit and finish. Thanks for the information.
14:49 Cool, I just notice the exposed aerodynamic duct work molded into the door. Build by a Rocket Scientist, the flow doesn't need an upper surface to the duct, only half a duct is required and molded into the door panel. Looks great too, form and function. Or, is that just all fasade for styling only? Please consider doing some smoke flow visualizations to see mixing and flow patterns within the cabin
My Model Y (2020 early VIN 2000 build) has rear reclining seats currently. My rear seat passengers all rave about this feature and the added comfort it provides. I traded in 2017 Model S for this exact reason and having such a low entry height.
Great episode! I haven't thought much about interior design for manufacturability and Carl's comments were enlightening. Need to have a followup episode after he gets through teardown so we can hear about the implementation details, pluses and minuses.
Hearing Carl was great and very informative Moving away from leather material I think goes better with Tesla mission of sustainability as the leading cause of global warming is animal agriculture and since we are moving away from eating meat it makes sense to make a transition away from leather. Also, I would argue buying the skin of animals is putting more money into animal agriculture industry which again is the leading cause of global warming more so than the transportation sector(2nd main cause of global warming)
How utterly terrifying and exciting in equal measure, presenting an opinion on an part of an automotive interior to Sandy Munro! Hats off to Sandy for giving Carl the floor to present on the interior. Kudos to Carl for an excellent presentation!
Carl has captivating knowlede. He definitely know materials and its production. I watched the wholde video without skipping which i dont usually do on long videos. Great work and great addition to the team!!
You really got my attention. Makes me look back at all the vehicles I’ve purchased when I was young and dumb and with each purchase a little more intelligent and now that I’m old and reminisce all my mistakes.
It is very interesting to hear Sandy so opposed to chrome due to the use of heavy metals in the manufacturing process, but then not mention heavy metals at all when discussing leather. I don't know much about leather tanning but I thought heavy metals were part of it. It would be great to hear a deep dive on leather from Carl to really explore the environmental impacts compared to vinyl or other interior materials. I'd love to hear which manufacturers are using sustainable materials for their interiors.
The vinyl material used on the seats not great and you can see cracking at 2:23 inner thigh and 2:25 the vinyl will separate from the cracks. The driverseat wearouts fast like within 4 years. Had the same problem with my current model s and repairing driver seat for the second time. How are robotaxies interiors going hold up? The Vegans are happy though
Munro, love your channel. Manufacturability to the Max, love this part. Love the design, ergonomics and safety aspects of the design. Would love to see more on the ergonomics safety design aspects. Last video, i learned something new. The "Ankle Breaker" that should be on all vehicles, but lets not Break ankles when the pedestrian flys up and over the car. Have they actually started to change design to not break ankles as pedestrians are flipped?
PETA representatives showed up at multiple shareholder meetings to push for “vegan leather” seats and Elon accommodated their wish. Then PETA returned to get the leather out off the steering wheel, and Tesla complied. What other company besides Tesla would comply voluntarily? I love the feel of the seats in our Teslas
I disagree that this is a good decision. Firstly, there is a massive glut in cowhides from the meat industry, its caused the price of hides to plummet in the last few years and most are being thrown away now. This was due to the push against leather products by animal rights organisations. Instead plastic and vinyl products are replacing leather, which ironically is a fossil fuel product. So you have gone from utilising a by-product to consuming more fossil fuels. Secondly, the quality of this vegan leather has been called into question, there are many reports of various hair and skin products reacting with this vegan leather. The poor longevity and quality combined with the increase in fossil fuel consumption, makes "vegan leather" a bad choice.
Very interesting discussion of the interior! I drive a 2017 Toyota Prius V, and it has rear seats that slide forward and back, as well as recline! Of course they also fold flat which gives an uninterrupted cargo space. Not a Tesla, but a very practical, high mileage car.
I was impressed with the presentation. As a past manufacturer of automotive wood trim design is a critical element of fit and finish. How components age is a crucial factor.
I tend to strongly prefer natural (leather, cotton) for any soft surface touched by the consumer, most plastics (maybe silicone, teflon, and fiberglass-reinforced nylon aside) degrade fast and feel bad. For hard surfaces I like Stainless steel for its durability but natural materials like wood and stone have pleasing patterns. And I'd rather live next to a farm than a plastic factory. Solid instead of layered/coated materials are also important for high traffic surfaces because wear dose not cause dramatic surface blemishes.
One of the facts about raising cattle. They can and are raised on land that is not able to grow crops that people can consume directly. Other animals like sheep, goats chickens are even better in this regard. My family always used everything from the animals that could be used, especially the skins. The only industry that ever raised animals just to get the skin is the fashion industry. Feathers & Fur mostly chinchillas . I don't think anyone can blame the average man for that.
If there was not enough meat being eaten and they were killing the cows just for the skins, I would prefer not to use more real leather than was a byproduct, but I believe the meat industry produces way more skins than we can use. Also, leather will eventually bio degrade after the car is scrapped, but plastics will hang around. With the variety of plastics in a car, I think it is hard to recycle them. Curiously, does anyone use pig skins for anything besides footballs?
Wow I loved this portion of the teardown. I would be very interested in hearing his thoughts on the white artificial leather in Tesla seats. I think most people love the seats after they get them. I have been super worried about my Tesla seats degrading for peeling over time after being exposed to silicones in personal care products and the like. Also, what does he think about Tesla selling their own aftermarket interior refreshes. I would be happy to give Tesla my money for a complete interior refresh every couple years. I think it’s something they need to consider if they want to run Robo taxis. If they want the interiors to look fresh they will need to be able to withstand a lot of abuse are from non-owners. Stalantis has said that they are going to refresh used vehicles for resale. I don’t think that’s a very smart idea considering liability. Side note, I wish my model 3 had ventilated seats. Phoenix is hot. My back side always sweats so much. I might have to do an after market leather seat just to keep cool on my 4th year with model 3.
I'm delighted that Carl mentioned that the yoke *increases* safety. I've had numerous arguments with people about this (having worked ten years in the medical field). A yoke not only is safer for the reasons mentioned, it offers better visibility of both road and binnacle (improved safety), is smaller, so I allows for easier egress in a crash (improved safety), and doesn't require the driver to cross their arms while turning the wheel - which is why it's used in F1 racing (improved safety). On top of that, it provides a smaller surface area to collide with in a crash. Cardiac tamponade is a serious threat that people suffer from their chest slamming into the steering wheel on collisions. Eventually, removing steering wheels altogether (once autonomy is here) will - by itself - save numerous lives.
QUESTION: In my opinion, the horn is in a bad position, because if I am turning the car and then suddenly have to press the horn button it is much more difficult to do that (because of it´s position) than a traditional press to the big front of the steering wheel. What do you think?
@@BasementTracks Its to encourage/habituate people to honk less in traffic. 98% of horns you hear during the commute are useless...they're a simple translation of driver's unnecessary frustration. Tesla plaid honks automatically when there's a situation where you need to really honk. Elon isn't joking around with user experience. Every little detail and decision either with spacex or tesla goes through him.
Never needed to comment on anything you guy cover, because you’re all in the industry and are providing insight to us on manufacturing across companies. Your guys are assembling a very solid team. You interior guy is definitely a fine. I’m especially reassured in his depths of knowledge. Truly enjoy the conversation.
Five years ago model S was available with leather or the “new” Tesla vinyl. It was clearly stated on the website, that Tesla recommends the vinyl. My wife has the leather seats in her model S and I have the white vinyl. The cars are both 5 years old, and have similar mileage. The leather drivers seat shows considerable wear. My white vinyl still looks as good as when it was new. Also, the thick, supple vinyl feels more luxurious than the leather, and it certainly looks like leather. Tesla clearly uses a very high grade vinyl.
@@jrooney06 I think we're in a transitional period where some car buyers still like the qualities of traditional leather, whereas technology marches on and develops replacement products that become demonstratably superior. Everyone is different. As a vegan, leather screams pain to me.
@@lsauve lol…. There are actually many types of materials and vinyl is definitely not luxury one, there is wool mostly used in Japan for the climate and comfort, other manufacturers have been using more and more recycled fibres and plastics in their cars unlike tesla that still relies on oil.
@@jrooney06 if we forced you to have children and raised them to be an optimal economic age so we could get the best bang for our buck for their body parts, would you still love the smell of real leather?
I personally like power seats. Not because I'm going to be adjusting it for myself, but because my wife and I have very different body proportions. She moves the seat way forward and up high. I drop it all the way down and move it back. Anytime she's been in my car I have to adjust it, and it's a pain in the butt to do it manually whenever I get into it after my wife has been driving lol :)
best part of Tesla and there Profile syncing is the seats, mirrors, and steering functions that are saved to those profiles. You then link those to your phone profile and when your wife or yourself walk in it auto sets to the car before you even sit in the car. Its the most unspoken feature that is the MVP of the Tesla itself. My Kia had memory functions in it, but required me to press button before the seats moved, but left the rest for me to change again.
I don’t know that I’ve repeat-watched an episode back-to-back before. Great hire in adding Carl. He brings a fresh perspective, knows his stuff and yet doesn’t talk over my layman’s head. I do have a request-could you compare the durability of the interior hard plastics Tesla uses to those of the big OEM’s? I swear my Model Y interior looks better at 19 months that my two previous GM vehicles did after 2. Months. On my prior vehicles, what would be a permanent shoe or cargo scuff, almost always disappears with the wipe of a damp cloth on my Tesla.
I remember Sandy from years ago. His biggest claim to fame was obscure get togethers on unused channels watched by a handful of Detroit gear heads. The Monroe team is becoming movie stars and 15 year olds are talking about Sandy and his crew.
If Tesla offered a round steering wheel as an option to the Plaid, wouldn't be a surprise being an hit in sells. Toyota is offering a yoke to the bZ4X to the Chinese market, using a Steer-by-Wire system, so you just have to move the steering wheel 150 degrees lock-to-lock.
Wrong, Toyota is just using it in a prototype, car manufacturers have been putting all kinds of crazy steering wheels and other features in their cars/prototypes for decades.
Thank you Sandy and your team for making these great teardown explain-the-structure video clips. For me as a programmer I really get satisfied to see that a Tesla is a much more modulare-alike (=horizontal and vertical) mobility solution than other vehicle manufactures. I like - on Tesla and on Munro Associates - that there is an open "thinking and discussion and presenting process to the public approach", which represents a certain new look and feel, on how to manage complexity - while knowing it's still complex. You try to find a group-common sense to satisfy most and thrive - where it's (y)our common sense - to a level of "a just good product" which will affect many outsiders positively. As for me as a programmer, I know really want to see the information technology features expand - for example the modular integration of platforms like Apple Music, Spotify, SoundCloud, Disney+ , Amazon Music/Video,... into a single - licences-hassle-free-GUI. I really would wonder how a - some kind of military-HUD-like component - would look like on the front screen- because the steering wheel (=yoke ?) made is possible to implement. In addition what would a side HUD look like ? An imagine the value of a side HUD rear projection even for the kids in the backseats of a Tesla for their orientation while driving? There are so many things that may be added in the future virtually, if the base structure of such a lean design like this Tesla (vehicle). I think the Tesla crowd has many ideas that - aggregated in a reasonable manner - would burst the imaginary level of a Tesla - at least for the owners and lovers - to new levels of satisfaction. Thanks for all your hard work to document that evolution. Warm Hallo from Frankfurt am Main, Germany, yours Sascha Andreas.
Don't worry Cory!....we still would like to see you doing presentations too! I like how you always have to try and keep Sandy in line with some of his more colourful comments!
Carl has a great Talent in explaining and presenting in Front of a camera. Almost sounded scripted. Very eloquent. Great addition to the team. He clearly knows his stuff.
Except seats!
Welcome Carl and well done. Now I want to see the insides of a car door as well! :D
I laughed at Sandy repeating Carl so much.
Just another associate teaching us more minor flaws so we as consumers can be further entitled! DEALERSHIPS BEWARE! at least after production catches up again. Nice work Carl. Looking forward to getting more insights from you.
I agree, I had confidence in what he was saying immediately.
Carl is a wealth of useful and interesting information. I never thought I needed to know, care, or want to know how a car interior comes together. Carl made the subject come alive and interesting . Well done Carl and Sandy!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Ditto and you guys seem to complement each other well. Carl seems like he's worked in front of a camera before and is a natural. Not sure how he'd be solo, but I really do like the dynamic between you two.
this Carl guy need to shave his head or at least that front part. What he needs to do is review the design for Elon's hair restoration and copy that.
@@manchuriancandidatethe3rd101 More importantly some people need to exercise better control over their mouths and their opinions. You're not adding anything useful here. Please go away.
Well done indeed! Welcome Carl, want to hear more of you. But on the seat motors I agree with Sandy: My Model 3 is like two different cars which both my wife and I drive. Seats, heating, driving style and steering mode all adjust automatically to either driver and I love that part. I would never buy a car that doesn't have memory seats ever again.
Carl crushed it! Never heard so much detail about interior trim before
Carl adds another pool of knowledge to Munro’s tear downs. Fascinating Carl. Love it. Keep them coming!
More to come!
Agreed - Carl really seems to know his stuff. Great addition. Congrats on the new role, Carl!
LOVE the new talent at Monro - having someone that knows interiors like this is HUGELY insightful. Can literally price out "this pattern is 4x more than this one" - fascinating!
What an addition to the team Carl is, no waffle, no filler or stating the obvious , a real interesting insight and experienced talk through, really enjoyable.
Carl is awesome, and very entertaining to listen to. Sandy and Corey are my favorites, but definitely more Carl.
More Carl, you got it!
I would say Sandy and Carl are my favorites!
@@MunroLive Don't forget Ben! His insight of procedure is great!
Yay Carl! Love to hear the details of a true expert - he's certainly done his 10k hours on interiors! I know some may think this is all too mundane and the videos are too long - I am SOLIDLY in the opposite camp - I want more! Was thinkin the other day that's I'd probably tune into a 24/7 livestream of the teardown :) Love seeing "my" car getting torn down (ok... so I only contributed $50, but still love it!)
Good point. Young people watching these kind of videos will be designing the cars we buy in the future.
A live stream would be a great idea. There are 360 cam such as the insta360 that would allow the viewer to 'look around' at what is being videoed.
The only problem I have is that he was describing some things and the camera wasn't showing it. So, I had a hard time visualizing what he was talking about. An example was the stitching on the dash that he said became wider toward the right. He was pointing in that direction, but the camera was too far away to pick it up.
wait until you go and purchase a vehicle, the sales guys will hate you...lol. When you know more about the product then they do, it makes it very uncomfortable for them.
@@kanes5105 The vast majority of sales staff know virtually nothing about the vehicles they sell. At least in my experience.
Man, what a great hire your guys! Carl clearly knows his stuff and I love the “antique road show” vibe that he carries with him. Self actualized in his work. Go Sandy, go Cory, go Carl, go Tesla :)
Carl is a great story teller. Love to hear him explain things!
Carl seems like one of those guys who really knows their stuff, but does not come across as a know it all. Very articulate as well. Good addition to the team!
In all the vehicle accidents I attended as an emergency services worker over 3 decades I never saw anyone with broken wrists from airbag deployment. I saw a lot of abrasions, a few suspected broken noses which may be hands or arms flying into face when steering one handed with arm across steering wheel and hand at 12 or 11 o’clock. Thumbs get hurt sometimes as the hands fly forward while the thumbs are hooked on steering wheel but no broken elbows and I have seen people in their 80s and 90s get out (or be cut out) of cars with airbags deployed and only abrasions to foreheads and faces. The seatbelt can really do some bruising too if the car doesn’t have pre-tensioners and or you don’t wear it properly and in extreme cases even if you do.
Bottom line, don’t sit too close to steering wheel, don’t have the back reclined like you are settling in to watch a movie and wear the seat belt properly because all the safety equipment including crumple zones, collapsible steering column, seat belt pre-tensioners, anti submarine seats and airbags are designed to work in conjunction with each other if used properly. I suspect the yoke steering wheel is no more or less safe than any other but I would like to see some proper testing before I made that conclusion. Further, I have been to many lectures and talks by many experts over the years whose expertise in one field is fascinating to listen to but they then speak with almost the same gravitas in areas where they are less than expert. The problem is that people will listen and believe information that is really no more that educated intuition if they don’t take note of when the real expertise ends and the guessing begins.
I know someone who got bad burns on their arms from the airbag friction. Did you ever see that ? Also I try to grip the wheel on the lower half most of the time , it is safer and more comfortable for me . Also if the steering is not mechanical but ,electrical. They should change the steering ratio with speed . So you do not need to turn as much .
@@rayRay-pw6gz I'm no expert, but I think the easiest way to figure out the safest way to sit in a car is to look at how a crash test dummy is seated for that particular vehicle. It makes sense to me because crash testing and safety systems validations are generally designed around that
Except the crash teat dummies have no skin. 😃 actually today because of the use of airbags, the insurance institutes drivers training course recommended that the hands should be below center of the steering wheel. And also smaller drivers are placing themselves to close to the steering wheel . Airbags cause many injuries that could be avoided with knowledge . 🇺🇸✌️👍❤️
Worth repeating, Carl is freakin’ awesome! Please have him on more often!! Munro Team is epic!
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Has Yas comment been edited? It said something else earlier. Whatever :)
@@GurgelKoff fixed a typo probably, don’t remember exactly now
Carl is a great addition to your team. He’s so informative and also a natural in front of the camera. Can’t wait to hear more from him and the rest of your team as the car is torn down.
I can see why you hired this guy, he really knows his stuff! Thanks for sharing the knowledge!
Thanks for watching!
Having lived with a Y for 40K+ miles, I really appreciate how easy the PVC seats are to clean - much easier to clean than the leather interiors I’ve had in previous cars. Thanks for these videos - love them!
Normally I very much dislike leather interiors - just don’t like them and prefer cloth by far. But I do like my Y‘s seats. They are very comfortable, don’t make me sweat, don’t make me slide around, don’t let me shiver in the cold when not heated and are a pleasure to clean.
When someone tells the cost per square meter/feet of different fabrics/vinyl/leather you know the person knows very well about the subject. Excellent Carl! Welcome to the team.
ACTUAL BUYERS don't care about Tesla's cost/meter²! They care about livability of interior of $103k car (cheaper S w/FSD).
All these comments from lookers,not buyers; not useful.
I didn't think I could learn so much about a car interior... Carl knows his stuff 🤓
Carl is great
Munro's leadership shows up here! I love that he gave air time to Carl (who is absolutely one of the best!) and allowed him to express himself freely. Done like a true Leader. Kudos Mr. Munro!
This series so far is proving to be a real education . It’s a real privilege to listen to someone like Carl sharing their knowledge and experience. Thanks to you all.
Thank you Sandy for highlighting new employee's in your video's. I can see why people should gravitate to working for Munro & Associates. Your team is the objective and the results show us all that...
munro team getting even sharper bringing in industry experts on top of the already amazing team of engineers and industry veterans. didn't think it was possible but your team/this page just keeps getting better!💚👍👍
More Carl please. He's fantastic. I'll also say he seems to get Sandy in the groove and they get a good back and forth going.
good hire, Munro - this interior guy knows his stuff. the way Sandy looks and talks to him is a tell he likes him
Yaaaay! I’m addicted to these videos this is not a joke this is a cry for help I’m watching these on repeat 24/7
Go with the flow.... Don't forget to watch the older teardowns
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@@Mr1drumlover just trying to help the guy
There are FAR WORSE things to be addicted to … keep watching !
This IS Munro Live at its finest.... eloquent explanation of the deep engineering that goes into ( and hopefully we get to experience in) great vehicles. Beautiful presentation, gentlemen!
This was a real *_Inside Baseball_* episode. Fascinating... Thanks for letting us witness the minds of real automotive engineers.
Welcome aboard Carl! Great job! You’re a natural and look forward to hearing you articulate all the little details that i look for but can’t put into words, great hire Sandy! Give him a raise already.
Beautifully explained. Lots of new info regarding interiors, and all made sense and was easily understood. Looking forward to seeing more of this presenter!
Good to see you guys back into real and detailed engineering stuff. Carl knows what he is talking about from true experience, skills and interest, bum.
Keep them coming, glad I posted you guys a 50 note to duck into this beast of a car.
Thanks for your support!
Love this series!!! Being a former Industrial Designer you guys cover all the bases! Key takeaway: design the high-end product first then trickle down (which Telsa did). Great Stuff!
Carl is a fantastic addition to the team. His insight into interior design and manufacture was most interesting.
As someone who has disassembled the steering column of the Plaid plenty of times, I can tell you for certain that the shrouds are hard plastic and are absolutely NOT wrapped as claimed at around 7:30 in the video. Very strange of them to not know the difference between plastic and something else. In fact, I even have detail in my channel of the fact that the shroud is a slightly reworked Model 3 shroud design. It wasn't specifically engineered for this car at all. The SCCM underneath is directly out of a Model 3 as well. This is *good* btw, because they reused parts instead of starting from scratch.
I thought the same 👍👍
This is made obvious even on video by the seam on the right side
That is the big problem with the UA-cam model. They strive to get more subscribers and the level of content is second thought . Thank you for your information. All in all they did a good job .
Carl is great, what a wealth of information. Not to nit pick, but coach him to speak (and look) at the camera and not so much at Sandy. Very much looking forward to Carl’s continuing analysis as teardown progresses.
Great content. Always maintaining a high bar.
Well done Carl. You seem happy to be there. I half expected you to make the pitch for HR. Good to see. Good choice Sandy.
Carl was an excellent addition to your crew Sandy, glad to hear his expert opinions on the interior. Great job Carl! Thanks as always for all your hard work Sandy and the entire crew!!
I own a Model 3 and the power seat is a life saver for me! The seat will move to the
"Easy Entry" position when in park and the seat belt is unbuckled. I have a bad back and this makes exiting and entering the vehicle much easier. The car will return to your desired settings when you enter the car and press the brake. Also you can add driver profiles for different drivers. With a touch of on the control panel, a different drivers seat settings will set up. In addition to the seat the steering wheel and side mirrors will return to your settings as well.
Yup. My wife is much smaller than I and it's a must to have a power memory driver seat for us. My old ICE car even has adjustable memory gas/brake pedals. Elon cancelled a power front passenger seat in Model 3 & Y. This made sense. Carl would approve 😁
Same here. Model 3 and I’m 6’3” with a bad back. Love the easy entry. My wife and I share the car. Driver profiles are linked to our phones. Never have to touch any controls. Love that about the car!
Wow this dude is a teacher i didn’t have in college!🙃
Great presentation. I'm an old mechanic and I specialize in electrical and mechanical. You guys have taught me so much about fit and finish. Thanks for the information.
Great and intelligent contribution from Carl Crittenden. Look forward to seeing him in future!
14:49 Cool, I just notice the exposed aerodynamic duct work molded into the door. Build by a Rocket Scientist, the flow doesn't need an upper surface to the duct, only half a duct is required and molded into the door panel. Looks great too, form and function.
Or, is that just all fasade for styling only?
Please consider doing some smoke flow visualizations to see mixing and flow patterns within the cabin
My Model Y (2020 early VIN 2000 build) has rear reclining seats currently. My rear seat passengers all rave about this feature and the added comfort it provides. I traded in 2017 Model S for this exact reason and having such a low entry height.
GREAT EPISODE! I don't know what you're paying Carl, but pay him more! Haha fantastic with him and Sandy tag teaming. What a wealth of expertise.
Carl is truly an expert witness. I love when more Munro talent is featured on the channel.
The new gentleman is a polished presenter!
Agreed, he is a great presenter, and much better in front of the camera than Cory!!!
Cory*
Cory does well!
Totally agree with Carl regarding leather.
To be honest, Carl made this one of the most interesting reviews of a car I have seen on Monroe live.
That leather monologue, was a knife through the vegan heart. Let them have it!
Carl is awesome! His video presence on his first appearance is on par with what took the rest of Munro and Associates years to develop! 😃
Carl: an expert that can communicate very well to everybody! Well done!
Great episode! I haven't thought much about interior design for manufacturability and Carl's comments were enlightening. Need to have a followup episode after he gets through teardown so we can hear about the implementation details, pluses and minuses.
Carl gives such eloquent and valuable insight along side of Sandy. Great combo!
Hearing Carl was great and very informative
Moving away from leather material I think goes better with Tesla mission of sustainability as the leading cause of global warming is animal agriculture and since we are moving away from eating meat it makes sense to make a transition away from leather. Also, I would argue buying the skin of animals is putting more money into animal agriculture industry which again is the leading cause of global warming more so than the transportation sector(2nd main cause of global warming)
Fear not, I assure you leather is NOT a bi-product of the meat industry anymore. Maybe in the 90's but not anymore.
How utterly terrifying and exciting in equal measure, presenting an opinion on an part of an automotive interior to Sandy Munro! Hats off to Sandy for giving Carl the floor to present on the interior. Kudos to Carl for an excellent presentation!
This Munro video is part of a master class in design and engineering. Carl is spectacular!
Carl was great, and easy delivery of how and why exteriors are relevant in cost, feel and cosmetically appealing.
Holy cow, these guys know their trade so much in depth! This content should not be free on UA-cam.
Thanks!
Thats the level of Knowledge someone has to possess when analysing elon's car.
Carl has captivating knowlede. He definitely know materials and its production. I watched the wholde video without skipping which i dont usually do on long videos. Great work and great addition to the team!!
This was so informative, great job by Carl, can't wait for the follow up videos.
You really got my attention. Makes me look back at all the vehicles I’ve purchased when I was young and dumb and with each purchase a little more intelligent and now that I’m old and reminisce all my mistakes.
I'm just here looking at the rear wheel well, excited for those castings
Carl's knowledge and speech clarity shines bright. Great intro. Welcome.
Glad you liked it
It is very interesting to hear Sandy so opposed to chrome due to the use of heavy metals in the manufacturing process, but then not mention heavy metals at all when discussing leather. I don't know much about leather tanning but I thought heavy metals were part of it. It would be great to hear a deep dive on leather from Carl to really explore the environmental impacts compared to vinyl or other interior materials. I'd love to hear which manufacturers are using sustainable materials for their interiors.
yep. Also, just to nit pick, if the leather (and bones etc) adds value to a dead animal, you'll tend to kill more animals.
@@nickfosterxx Following their logic of not wasting the skins, we should make seats from human skins from the bodies before they are buried.
leather is NOT a bi-product of the meat industry. Please do some research and you'll see its a completely different animal.
Sandy, Carl is a keeper. 👍🇺🇸
The vinyl material used on the seats not great and you can see cracking at 2:23 inner thigh and 2:25 the vinyl will separate from the cracks. The driverseat wearouts fast like within 4 years. Had the same problem with my current model s and repairing driver seat for the second time. How are robotaxies interiors going hold up? The Vegans are happy though
I don’t want to insult SANDY …because I’m just a layperson
But I am AMAZED…the more I watch…I think about 95% of the time I am AGREEING WITH HIM 🤗😍😍😍
Munro, love your channel. Manufacturability to the Max, love this part. Love the design, ergonomics and safety aspects of the design. Would love to see more on the ergonomics safety design aspects. Last video, i learned something new. The "Ankle Breaker" that should be on all vehicles, but lets not Break ankles when the pedestrian flys up and over the car. Have they actually started to change design to not break ankles as pedestrians are flipped?
Wow, what detailed analysis of trim. Now those who said Tesla makes cheap trim/interior should watch this!
PETA representatives showed up at multiple shareholder meetings to push for “vegan leather” seats and Elon accommodated their wish. Then PETA returned to get the leather out off the steering wheel, and Tesla complied. What other company besides Tesla would comply voluntarily? I love the feel of the seats in our Teslas
Not Lucid! They still offer leather as an option. Shame!
I disagree that this is a good decision. Firstly, there is a massive glut in cowhides from the meat industry, its caused the price of hides to plummet in the last few years and most are being thrown away now. This was due to the push against leather products by animal rights organisations. Instead plastic and vinyl products are replacing leather, which ironically is a fossil fuel product. So you have gone from utilising a by-product to consuming more fossil fuels. Secondly, the quality of this vegan leather has been called into question, there are many reports of various hair and skin products reacting with this vegan leather. The poor longevity and quality combined with the increase in fossil fuel consumption, makes "vegan leather" a bad choice.
Another winning team member drops some great insights into manufacturing considerations.
Very interesting discussion of the interior! I drive a 2017 Toyota Prius V, and it has rear seats that slide forward and back, as well as recline! Of course they also fold flat which gives an uninterrupted cargo space. Not a Tesla, but a very practical, high mileage car.
I was impressed with the presentation. As a past manufacturer of automotive wood trim design is a critical element of fit and finish. How components age is a crucial factor.
Love to learn more about the leather vs. vinyl debate and truthfully which is more environmentally conscious. Never as obvious as you think!
I tend to strongly prefer natural (leather, cotton) for any soft surface touched by the consumer, most plastics (maybe silicone, teflon, and fiberglass-reinforced nylon aside) degrade fast and feel bad. For hard surfaces I like Stainless steel for its durability but natural materials like wood and stone have pleasing patterns. And I'd rather live next to a farm than a plastic factory. Solid instead of layered/coated materials are also important for high traffic surfaces because wear dose not cause dramatic surface blemishes.
Don't forget, lots of toxic dies are used to colour the leather. Best would be natural colour hide.
@@TimLF agree, as long as it's an organic farm, not an industrial farm or one that uses pesticides.
One of the facts about raising cattle. They can and are raised on land that is not able to grow crops that people can consume directly. Other animals like sheep, goats chickens are even better in this regard. My family always used everything from the animals that could be used, especially the skins.
The only industry that ever raised animals just to get the skin is the fashion industry. Feathers & Fur mostly chinchillas . I don't think anyone can blame the average man for that.
If there was not enough meat being eaten and they were killing the cows just for the skins, I would prefer not to use more real leather than was a byproduct, but I believe the meat industry produces way more skins than we can use. Also, leather will eventually bio degrade after the car is scrapped, but plastics will hang around. With the variety of plastics in a car, I think it is hard to recycle them. Curiously, does anyone use pig skins for anything besides footballs?
Sandy, your interiors guy is a star. Things I've never cared about before kept me watching. Well done Carl.
Came for the Hello Boys & Girls. Did not disappoint.
That leather conversation really gave me a new viewpoint on using leather.
Now I really cannot wait to get my model x in March❤️
Really like the introduction of Carl. He can speak very well and is engaging
Wow I loved this portion of the teardown. I would be very interested in hearing his thoughts on the white artificial leather in Tesla seats. I think most people love the seats after they get them. I have been super worried about my Tesla seats degrading for peeling over time after being exposed to silicones in personal care products and the like. Also, what does he think about Tesla selling their own aftermarket interior refreshes. I would be happy to give Tesla my money for a complete interior refresh every couple years. I think it’s something they need to consider if they want to run Robo taxis. If they want the interiors to look fresh they will need to be able to withstand a lot of abuse are from non-owners. Stalantis has said that they are going to refresh used vehicles for resale. I don’t think that’s a very smart idea considering liability.
Side note, I wish my model 3 had ventilated seats. Phoenix is hot. My back side always sweats so much. I might have to do an after market leather seat just to keep cool on my 4th year with model 3.
I'm delighted that Carl mentioned that the yoke *increases* safety. I've had numerous arguments with people about this (having worked ten years in the medical field). A yoke not only is safer for the reasons mentioned, it offers better visibility of both road and binnacle (improved safety), is smaller, so I allows for easier egress in a crash (improved safety), and doesn't require the driver to cross their arms while turning the wheel - which is why it's used in F1 racing (improved safety). On top of that, it provides a smaller surface area to collide with in a crash. Cardiac tamponade is a serious threat that people suffer from their chest slamming into the steering wheel on collisions. Eventually, removing steering wheels altogether (once autonomy is here) will - by itself - save numerous lives.
QUESTION:
In my opinion, the horn is in a bad position, because if I am turning the car and then suddenly have to press the horn button it is much more difficult to do that (because of it´s position) than a traditional press to the big front of the steering wheel. What do you think?
Agree 100%. Love my plaid, it's the best car ever made, but that horn...not sure what they were thinking.
@@BasementTracks Maybe they don't want you to place your hand over airbag to honk? For safety reasons mentioned in the video.
I think the horn honks itself when it senses it needs to
Sandy did say his close call in the plaid automatically used the horn.
@@BasementTracks Its to encourage/habituate people to honk less in traffic. 98% of horns you hear during the commute are useless...they're a simple translation of driver's unnecessary frustration.
Tesla plaid honks automatically when there's a situation where you need to really honk. Elon isn't joking around with user experience. Every little detail and decision either with spacex or tesla goes through him.
Good stuff. Carl knows his subject matter and presents the intricacies clearly and concisely; great asset at Munro.
"There's 3 trees left and we decided to put one in the car" - Sandy is hilarious
Never needed to comment on anything you guy cover, because you’re all in the industry and are providing insight to us on manufacturing across companies. Your guys are assembling a very solid team. You interior guy is definitely a fine. I’m especially reassured in his depths of knowledge. Truly enjoy the conversation.
The light show at the end was a great touch! Only in a Tesla!
Not messing with Sandy any time soon! Haha
Great content as always
Well that guy clearly knows what he's talking about. Love to hear more content from him on Sandy's channel.
Wow, very educational.
The end was brilliant, Monroe channel theme being part of the Tesla dance! I learned so much about vehicle interiors. Great episode!
Five years ago model S was available with leather or the “new” Tesla vinyl. It was clearly stated on the website, that Tesla recommends the vinyl. My wife has the leather seats in her model S and I have the white vinyl. The cars are both 5 years old, and have similar mileage. The leather drivers seat shows considerable wear. My white vinyl still looks as good as when it was new. Also, the thick, supple vinyl feels more luxurious than the leather, and it certainly looks like leather. Tesla clearly uses a very high grade vinyl.
there is leather and there is 'leather' i suppose. I love the smell of real leather when i get into a car. Screams luxury to me.
@@jrooney06 I think we're in a transitional period where some car buyers still like the qualities of traditional leather, whereas technology marches on and develops replacement products that become demonstratably superior. Everyone is different. As a vegan, leather screams pain to me.
Lol…. Vinyl is still plastic and tesla probably used a very low grade leather, plus leather needs some sort of maintenance.
@@lsauve lol…. There are actually many types of materials and vinyl is definitely not luxury one, there is wool mostly used in Japan for the climate and comfort, other manufacturers have been using more and more recycled fibres and plastics in their cars unlike tesla that still relies on oil.
@@jrooney06 if we forced you to have children and raised them to be an optimal economic age so we could get the best bang for our buck for their body parts, would you still love the smell of real leather?
Carl's comment regarding improved driver elbow safety in an airbag deployment situation due to the yoke steering position was very insightful.
I personally like power seats. Not because I'm going to be adjusting it for myself, but because my wife and I have very different body proportions. She moves the seat way forward and up high. I drop it all the way down and move it back. Anytime she's been in my car I have to adjust it, and it's a pain in the butt to do it manually whenever I get into it after my wife has been driving lol :)
best part of Tesla and there Profile syncing is the seats, mirrors, and steering functions that are saved to those profiles. You then link those to your phone profile and when your wife or yourself walk in it auto sets to the car before you even sit in the car. Its the most unspoken feature that is the MVP of the Tesla itself. My Kia had memory functions in it, but required me to press button before the seats moved, but left the rest for me to change again.
@@AustinFerguson So good
+1 for having experts on each topic. Love the depth they bring
Nice watch Cory, Breitling Superocean? Good choice.
Yes indeed. Watch was a wedding present from my wife in 2014.
I don’t know that I’ve repeat-watched an episode back-to-back before. Great hire in adding Carl. He brings a fresh perspective, knows his stuff and yet doesn’t talk over my layman’s head.
I do have a request-could you compare the durability of the interior hard plastics Tesla uses to those of the big OEM’s? I swear my Model Y interior looks better at 19 months that my two previous GM vehicles did after 2. Months. On my prior vehicles, what would be a permanent shoe or cargo scuff, almost always disappears with the wipe of a damp cloth on my Tesla.
I remember Sandy from years ago. His biggest claim to fame was obscure get togethers on unused channels watched by a handful of Detroit gear heads. The Monroe team is becoming movie stars and 15 year olds are talking about Sandy and his crew.
A free masterclass in automotive engineering, design, bio-mechanics and materials. Amazing!
If Tesla offered a round steering wheel as an option to the Plaid, wouldn't be a surprise being an hit in sells. Toyota is offering a yoke to the bZ4X to the Chinese market, using a Steer-by-Wire system, so you just have to move the steering wheel 150 degrees lock-to-lock.
Wrong, Toyota is just using it in a prototype, car manufacturers have been putting all kinds of crazy steering wheels and other features in their cars/prototypes for decades.
@@carholic-sz3qv you're wrong. Toyota is gonna sell the yoke in China, it's official. Other countries weren't announced yet.
Thank you Sandy and your team for making these great teardown explain-the-structure video clips. For me as a programmer I really get satisfied to see that a Tesla is a much more modulare-alike (=horizontal and vertical) mobility solution than other vehicle manufactures. I like - on Tesla and on Munro Associates - that there is an open "thinking and discussion and presenting process to the public approach", which represents a certain new look and feel, on how to manage complexity - while knowing it's still complex. You try to find a group-common sense to satisfy most and thrive - where it's (y)our common sense - to a level of "a just good product" which will affect many outsiders positively. As for me as a programmer, I know really want to see the information technology features expand - for example the modular integration of platforms like Apple Music, Spotify, SoundCloud, Disney+ , Amazon Music/Video,... into a single - licences-hassle-free-GUI. I really would wonder how a - some kind of military-HUD-like component - would look like on the front screen- because the steering wheel (=yoke ?) made is possible to implement. In addition what would a side HUD look like ? An imagine the value of a side HUD rear projection even for the kids in the backseats of a Tesla for their orientation while driving? There are so many things that may be added in the future virtually, if the base structure of such a lean design like this Tesla (vehicle). I think the Tesla crowd has many ideas that - aggregated in a reasonable manner - would burst the imaginary level of a Tesla - at least for the owners and lovers - to new levels of satisfaction. Thanks for all your hard work to document that evolution. Warm Hallo from Frankfurt am Main, Germany, yours Sascha Andreas.
Don't worry Cory!....we still would like to see you doing presentations too! I like how you always have to try and keep Sandy in line with some of his more colourful comments!
Thanks Len! Cory actually recruited and hired Carl into Munro to strengthen our team. We have around 100 awesome engineers just like Carl!