Very good review in so many ways, incredible depths gone to "for a brush" some might add, but a brush that is in contact with your vinyl, the lack of pulling punches is always refreshing, as is the sense of humour, you see this is where I don't need a brush this good, I can't afford knightsbridge prices for dust. The maker/designer does raise a good point re carbon fiber not being fine enough, I do have different record brushes (different materials) because some records need a finer brush, stiffer etc, great review as always :)
I recently got the MK9. The first couple records /i used it one were already fairly clean. The 3rd one had a couple visible hairs and pieces of lint or dust. I cleaned it about 4 revolutions. Rather than waiting for the brush to show signs of dirt before cleaning it, I ran a card across the bristles and was stunned by the amount of dust that came out of the brush. As I use it more, I will post my experiences. After some use, I am not entirely sure. I used this brush on a few more records with varying degrees of dust etc on them. I figured after several revolutions on the turntable with the Hart brush the vinyl should be clean. I then went over the record with an audioquest carbon fiber and saw that it was picking up particles too. Next I will try the Vinyl Vac 33.
If you follow your cleaning system as I do, and have always cleaned well, stored and handle properly, why do you need to brush? I use a Rocket Bulb blower, and a Kasmier style lens brush if needed to remove any loose dust. It also pays to have a strong turntable light, without you won't believe what you are missing on cleaning.
I’ve tried everything but now I use distilled water with a few drops of Dawn. And small amount of 99% isopropyl alcohol. Lather it up good then rinse good with distilled water and I have never seen better results. Amazing results just let the record dry good and rinse good. I like Mofi brushes
Hey - So, the Hart Audio brush, the thing that gets me is that it looks the brush itself looks like the draft excluder strip on the edge of our composite doors. What do you think?
Have been using these for about a year and think the work brilliantly and far better than other brushes i've used. But I do agree with the concerns about build quality where one is coming unstuck. And there were some horrendous price vaiations a while back.
Ok. Even with some of the draw backs, I do like the product or the idea of the product. Ive just invested in a cleaning machine/ process for my vinyl... but if i do that once and use this to maintain, that could be a perfect combination.
It is amusing to see that this brush has not gone down in price as you had hoped, but up instead. Oh, well, maybe this model will drop in price when they come out with the MII version.
Good topic Paul. I recently splurged and picked up a Ramar brush. Silly expensive, definitely a luxury purchase but also very effective. Might be worth a review.
Using a vinyl brush is not an exacting process, nor are the results precise in nature. Hence, some of the dust sticks to the brush for you to dispose of, some stays on the record ready for another future brush swish, some drops on a floor of your choice if you brush and then swivel/angle the brush/dust off the edge of the disc, etc. Using brush is the epitome of manual cleaning. As with any method though, there are pros and cons. Nothing it perfect.
I purchased the Hart when it was announce, 2021, on Analog Planet and i have to say, and i said there as well, that it is not up to the quality standards i expected or what the price would suggest. Although the bristles themselves are nice (i love them) the brush is mush too small, much smaller then any other record brush i have used or seen. Under 3 inches Mine did not come with any cover or protector. The wood body of the brush looks amateurish and homemade, he just cut the wood and put the varnish on without sanding the ends. It did not have the plastic end pieces at that time i find those to look out of place and an after thought on this version. I seems like he just had a bunch of short bodies and added the rest to make it bigger. It still looks too small and not refined enough for the price. Over all i think it is a great idea/bristles but poor execution in the build. As a wood worker myself i know he could make a much more refined and higher quality brush body by taking just little more time and care. I think i said at the time if it was improved significantly i would consider getting another. Not there yet. It feels and looks like a $20.00 product. I think it could be the best and a best seller if it was a bigger, high quality product along with the bristle effectiveness. I thought audiophile dust was the stuff Ebay resellers sprinkled on their vintage audio gear to make it seem special. Or was it what audio UA-camrs sprinkled on the title of their posts?
Sry dude, this record brush i had for 1month and the brushes fell off like crazy. I literally had to throw away in 2 months. Packaging and craftmanship was just horrible as well. I say stay away from this thing. I bought a much cheaper velvet cleaner + spray combo from Amazon its just as good.
@@ChrisMag100 I was not pressing it, just lightly touched the record and spin it to drag dusts. It worked well while using it, but I should also say not any better than my very reasonably priced velvet brush does now.
@@TheAudiophileMan my comments gets auto deleted so I put it one more time, the guy who sold me this brush on ebay said buy a replacement brush, if I recall correctly. I went for a cheaper option bc to me that replacement brush price was also unjustifiable having experienced the brush itself on the use and the delivery experience, etc. Cheers.
I had the same experience with this brush, which shed bristles all over my vinyl. I reported the issue to the vendor who showed little interest and did not offer to replace the brush. I suggest that you avoid this product 👎
They are made by hand. We try to use the most skillful means but because they are not made by a machine they are not perfect. Some prefer the handmade feel. Our feedback on eBay has been exceptional up to now and we try to maintain customer satisfaction so if customers are unhappy and need their brush serviced to replace old pile strips then we can if you post your old one back.
Looks cheap and nasty and reading the 2 comments already posted it seems to be made badly. Pointless styling. Someone is making a killing selling these, the mark up must be terrific for the seller. Needs a re design and then dropping the price dramatically, maybe by 80% to make it worth a try. Unfortunately until then it is not for me. Won’t a goats hair brush have similar results at a fraction of the cost?
Time, materials, and sales fees make that impossible. We do our very best I can assure you. If there was a machine-made equivalent it would be cheaper yes.
@@HartAudio what do the bits of Perspex on each end contribute? Surely getting rid of those would make it a hell of a lot simpler to make and would cut the cost dramatically. They actually make the brush look cheap and nasty as is so it would be a win win situation for you.
off the top i would assume that goat's hair is not as fine. I just got a hart brush. I am not concerned w aesthetics (although I like the look of the brush) as much as results. So far it has out performed my carbon fiber. I still have not gotten to a record with "high grade audiophile dust" but am looking forward to cleaning one with dirt deep in the grooves. I also doubt anyone is making a killing because at the price I doubt the average record person is buying them.
Absolutely rubbish brush along with the absolutely outrageous price tag! I currently own 8 different brushes & they are far superior working, looking and priced better than this. Apologies for the negative comment, just felt I needed to put in my 2 cents. Happy (clean) spinning! 🙂
Very good review in so many ways, incredible depths gone to "for a brush" some might add, but a brush that is in contact with your vinyl, the lack of pulling punches is always refreshing, as is the sense of humour, you see this is where I don't need a brush this good, I can't afford knightsbridge prices for dust. The maker/designer does raise a good point re carbon fiber not being fine enough, I do have different record brushes (different materials) because some records need a finer brush, stiffer etc, great review as always :)
The build quality is shocking great vid as always paul 👍
I recently got the MK9. The first couple records /i used it one were already fairly clean. The 3rd one had a couple visible hairs and pieces of lint or dust. I cleaned it about 4 revolutions. Rather than waiting for the brush to show signs of dirt before cleaning it, I ran a card across the bristles and was stunned by the amount of dust that came out of the brush. As I use it more, I will post my experiences. After some use, I am not entirely sure. I used this brush on a few more records with varying degrees of dust etc on them. I figured after several revolutions on the turntable with the Hart brush the vinyl should be clean. I then went over the record with an audioquest carbon fiber and saw that it was picking up particles too. Next I will try the Vinyl Vac 33.
I tried a wire brush. All my records sound worse except for the Bob Dylan albums, they sound better.
If you follow your cleaning system as I do, and have always cleaned well, stored and handle properly, why do you need to brush?
I use a Rocket Bulb blower, and a Kasmier style lens brush if needed to remove any loose dust.
It also pays to have a strong turntable light, without you won't believe what you are missing on cleaning.
I’ve tried everything but now I use distilled water with a few drops of Dawn. And small amount of 99% isopropyl alcohol. Lather it up good then rinse good with distilled water and I have never seen better results. Amazing results just let the record dry good and rinse good. I like Mofi brushes
Hey - So, the Hart Audio brush, the thing that gets me is that it looks the brush itself looks like the draft excluder strip on the edge of our composite doors. What do you think?
I use an extremely old shoe polishing brush, its about 50yrs old and made to last when brushes were brushes
Have been using these for about a year and think the work brilliantly and far better than other brushes i've used. But I do agree with the concerns about build quality where one is coming unstuck. And there were some horrendous price vaiations a while back.
Ok. Even with some of the draw backs, I do like the product or the idea of the product. Ive just invested in a cleaning machine/ process for my vinyl... but if i do that once and use this to maintain, that could be a perfect combination.
Hard plastic might’ve added static to the bristles
It is amusing to see that this brush has not gone down in price as you had hoped, but up instead. Oh, well, maybe this model will drop in price when they come out with the MII version.
Hi Craig - it did? Thanks for letting me know.
I use wire wool to clean my vinyl
😂
Good topic Paul.
I recently splurged and picked up a Ramar brush. Silly expensive, definitely a luxury purchase but also very effective. Might be worth a review.
Hi Paul My question is were dose the dust go , as a posed to begin vacuumed off the surface .
Using a vinyl brush is not an exacting process, nor are the results precise in nature. Hence, some of the dust sticks to the brush for you to dispose of, some stays on the record ready for another future brush swish, some drops on a floor of your choice if you brush and then swivel/angle the brush/dust off the edge of the disc, etc. Using brush is the epitome of manual cleaning. As with any method though, there are pros and cons. Nothing it perfect.
Sarcasm on.
Otherwise a great review, as usually.
Thank you, its much appreciated.
Would you recommend this for wet cleaning?
When you say "wet cleaning" can you explain that please?
For a vacuum cleaner with say tergitol
Yes. I can see a use there. I was considering using it to spread surfactant over my vinyl with it.
I purchased the Hart when it was announce, 2021, on Analog Planet and i have to say, and i said there as well, that it is not up to the quality standards i expected or what the price would suggest.
Although the bristles themselves are nice (i love them) the brush is mush too small, much smaller then any other record brush i have used or seen. Under 3 inches
Mine did not come with any cover or protector.
The wood body of the brush looks amateurish and homemade, he just cut the wood and put the varnish on without sanding the ends.
It did not have the plastic end pieces at that time i find those to look out of place and an after thought on this version.
I seems like he just had a bunch of short bodies and added the rest to make it bigger. It still looks too small and not refined enough for the price.
Over all i think it is a great idea/bristles but poor execution in the build.
As a wood worker myself i know he could make a much more refined and higher quality brush body by taking just little more time and care.
I think i said at the time if it was improved significantly i would consider getting another. Not there yet.
It feels and looks like a $20.00 product.
I think it could be the best and a best seller if it was a bigger, high quality product along with the bristle effectiveness.
I thought audiophile dust was the stuff Ebay resellers sprinkled on their vintage audio gear to make it seem special. Or was it what audio UA-camrs sprinkled on the title of their posts?
I’ve been using a badger hair shaving brush for years you can pick them up for a fiver
Well yes, that's a similar direction to the Kabuki brush I mentioned in the review I reckon.
Sry dude, this record brush i had for 1month and the brushes fell off like crazy. I literally had to throw away in 2 months. Packaging and craftmanship was just horrible as well. I say stay away from this thing. I bought a much cheaper velvet cleaner + spray combo from Amazon its just as good.
Did you report this to the company? Interested in the company's reply.
How hard were you pressing on the record surface? If you’re used to using a velvet brush, I’m left wondering if you were pressing instead of dragging.
@@ChrisMag100 I was not pressing it, just lightly touched the record and spin it to drag dusts. It worked well while using it, but I should also say not any better than my very reasonably priced velvet brush does now.
@@TheAudiophileMan my comments gets auto deleted so I put it one more time, the guy who sold me this brush on ebay said buy a replacement brush, if I recall correctly. I went for a cheaper option bc to me that replacement brush price was also unjustifiable having experienced the brush itself on the use and the delivery experience, etc. Cheers.
I had the same experience with this brush, which shed bristles all over my vinyl. I reported the issue to the vendor who showed little interest and did not offer to replace the brush. I suggest that you avoid this product 👎
£65.00 on ebay. Far too expensive!
Looks like DIY ..made by someone who really shouldn’t 😂
They are made by hand. We try to use the most skillful means but because they are not made by a machine they are not perfect. Some prefer the handmade feel. Our feedback on eBay has been exceptional up to now and we try to maintain customer satisfaction so if customers are unhappy and need their brush serviced to replace old pile strips then we can if you post your old one back.
Looks cheap and nasty and reading the 2 comments already posted it seems to be made badly. Pointless styling. Someone is making a killing selling these, the mark up must be terrific for the seller. Needs a re design and then dropping the price dramatically, maybe by 80% to make it worth a try. Unfortunately until then it is not for me. Won’t a goats hair brush have similar results at a fraction of the cost?
Time, materials, and sales fees make that impossible. We do our very best I can assure you. If there was a machine-made equivalent it would be cheaper yes.
@@HartAudio what do the bits of Perspex on each end contribute? Surely getting rid of those would make it a hell of a lot simpler to make and would cut the cost dramatically. They actually make the brush look cheap and nasty as is so it would be a win win situation for you.
off the top i would assume that goat's hair is not as fine. I just got a hart brush. I am not concerned w aesthetics (although I like the look of the brush) as much as results. So far it has out performed my carbon fiber. I still have not gotten to a record with "high grade audiophile dust" but am looking forward to cleaning one with dirt deep in the grooves. I also doubt anyone is making a killing because at the price I doubt the average record person is buying them.
Absolutely rubbish brush along with the absolutely outrageous price tag! I currently own 8 different brushes & they are far superior working, looking and priced better than this. Apologies for the negative comment, just felt I needed to put in my 2 cents. Happy (clean) spinning! 🙂