How to Seed Start Globe Artichokes & Don't Make This #1 Mistake: Timing, Zones, Cold Period, & More
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- I cover when to start them. Two types of lighting/seed starting options. Discuss what a vernalization period means and cover basic planting, watering, and fertilizing methods. Everything you need to know to successfully start globe artichokes
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I love stuffed artichokes! The Italian way, steamed with Italian bread crumbs, garlic and Parmesan cheese with a slice of lemon on top. I have no recipe, just memories of Grandma teaching me. 😊 Don’t let it go to flower if you want to stuff it. Clip the thorny parts off the ends of the leaves. Thank you so much for this information, yours look fantastic!
Hey Deanne, search the video on here (cuz UA-cam might remove my link) “Great Depression Cooking” stuffed artichoke. It will melt your heart. The video is a woman named Clara who is Italian and was in her 90s when she made the video (she’s since passed) and her videos are so beautiful :) I think you’ll like it, it’s this exact recipe. They are recipes she used to survive the Great Depression along with stories as she makes it ❤️
@@pie746 Thanks, I’ll check it out. Just your description brought tears to my eyes. I also forgot to mention olive oil and a little water.
@@pie746 That was so sweet! I don’t put salt or pepper. Yes that’s how to cut the leaves and stem. I cut the top too. I mix up the stuffing with about a half cup ish of olive oil and real minced garlic. If you put too much olive oil it overpowers it. Then if it’s still too dry I add enough water to make it moist but not wet. Then I stuff the leaves with the spoon, sprinkle parm cheese and top with a slice of lemon. I only put enough water in the bottom of the pot to cover the stem and maybe the bottom row of leaves. Sometimes I’ll add garlic and lemon to the water. Just keep checking the water doesn’t steam all out or it’ll scorch. You know it’s done when you can easily pull off one of the bottom leaves. When you get to the heart at the bottom be sure and pull off or scrape off the choke part… the part that looks like hair. The rest is all heart to eat. Mmm mmm mmm so good!! I use to go to the Italian festival and buy like a dozen and freeze them… along with a couple of muffellatas, big round Italian sandwiches. Ok now I’m going to have to cook all this lol. 💜
Glad to share and that sound delicious
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I found one year by accident (well, actually from being lazy) by leaving some plants right up next to the house that they overwintered. It was some random peppers and annual flowers in planters. They got heat from the house via poor insulation or maybe the sun baking the bricks. They also sort of self mulched with leaves that blew against the house naturally.
I've since adapted this process to keep some tender perennials that would otherwise be a zone or two too high for me (VA zone 7) without needing a greenhouse or taking up space indoors over the winter.
You're giving me some ideas...
Brink south side is a good place for plants to over winter
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I'm in Zone 7 too, and I've been pleasantly surprised by how well some stuff in the ground next to the house has done. Not removing all the old/death branches from the plant seems to help too. I'll have to try putting a pepper plant right up against the house this year.
What I have found with artichokes is that they really enjoy being on the osmosis setting of your garden hose once they are set out. If you think about it, most artichokes are grown in California and there they have the strata coming off the oceans bathing them for hours per day through the Spring and Summer. I do this by using that setting on my watering wand or sprayer in the early morning. They love it and I have experienced artichokes that overwintered in zone 5a/5b in Cheyenne WY. It depends on the location you have them, they prefer South facing, and you need to deep mulch them like strawberries through the winter.
Thanks so much!
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Good to know. I’m in zone 6 and would love to grow these as a perennial, which many say you can’t…
I like the way you give pertinent information right to the end of the video.
Thanks for watching.
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And an excellent way to judge water content is to pick the thing up. It only takes a couple of times before you can judge the water content by the weight of whatever it is. When they're feather light, you know they're thirsty.
For sure
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Can't wait to see the artichokes progress!
Mid April, Ill get them out there.
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Thank you so much for making this video!! Now if you’ll do another couple hundred videos individualized to each variety of garden fruits and vegetables, I would be much appreciative😂😂
Thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge!
Lol. Ill work on it. I want to make few on topic people dont normally cover
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Thank you, I realize that I have been over watering my starts. I have been having a terrible time starting artichokes from seed. I will let the soil dry out a bit now.
The moisture level is dry for them.
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I started my artichokes indoors on 1/17. I have been putting them outside for about 2 weeks, bringing them inside if the temps go down to freezing. I am hoping I can get these to grow b/c I LOVE artichokes. Following your directions thus far. I do have a couple that I think were too close to the grow light and got scorched. I didn't get a chance to put the seeds in the fridge like you recommended in your January video, but I got good germination anyway. Fingers crossed. Thanks for these tutorials.
You should be fine. Moving the in and out really helps
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Yep, I'm in 7a also and I think the snow blizzard that we got this past winter killed my artichokes. Wish I remembered to mulch it up to try to save it. Guess I need to try again at some point...
I used mine in my perennial flower garden. I am going to move them to a place, I can protect in the winter.
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Thanks Gary! I grew a few artichoke, probably from your seed shop, last year but they didn’t get big enough to bloom even in full sun. I’m in zone 5a. This year I started them a bit earlier. This will be the last year If I get no blooms because they take up a lot of space but look pretty cool and prehistoric.
I like them for the prehistoric look myself. I just let them bloom. Good luck.
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I'm in zone 8a and I've found that direct seeded artichokes do not like too much sun/heat. The second time I tried growing them, so as to make sure they would go through the 400 hour vernalization process and I would get fruit the first year. I decided to direct seed them in a place where they would not get the late afternoon summer sun. As an experiment, since the seed packet said they were hardy to 10 degrees, I decided to direct seed them late in the fall in a raised bed, I planted one in late November and one in December and placed humidity domes over them. After the initial watering, I watered around the outside of the domes. I haven't babied them at all. Except for some worm castings when I planted the seeds, they've just gotten rain water that I collect They made it through the coldest days/nights and are about 8 inches tall now and have out grown the domes. Time will tell if they fruit this spring and if they behave like a perennial ( like they are supposed to) here.
Thanks a great experiment and method. Nice work. And I hope people follow it.
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Got some to grow for my mother this year. Love your videos.
Hello there
Excellent and thanks for watching
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Last year I discovered that if you start your plants under T5 HO bulbs you can skip the garden off period. The light is so intense that the plants don't seem to notice when you just put them outside.
Good tip. Thanks
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One year I put them in a clean container and then in the fridge... I fell in love with Artichokes when I was 12 and my mother let me go buy them and cook them myself...
Interesting. Sounds like a good memory with them too.
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Thanks I’m in VA same your zone.
Cheers. Just follow along.
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I assume if your happy with flowers/buds the following year the fertilisation process will happen in winter so no need to put them out in the cooler weather in that circumstance.
If you like how it turned it, stick with that.
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What if you don't mind that they won't bud out this year? Can I start some seeds now and grow them to about six inches and put them in the ground so they will be a good size and overwinter them? They are a beautiful plant even if they won't have a flower this season.
That works
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Awesome tips, I'm going to give them a try.
They are worth it
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Gary, I'm loving your channel. I am in zone 7 in NC. Our winters aren't very cold--rarely does it get to the teens-more around 30 degrees will be the coldest. Can I plant artichokes in the fall or should I just wait until January to start them indoors? Thank you.
Cheers. You could do them now in theory. But January would work really well.
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FYI, I live in zone 6b, and the internet says our average low temps are -5 to +5 degrees. I've lived here nearly thirty years, and I don't remember getting below zero at all; maybe once. There was one brutally cold year where in early January the temp every morning was around 15 degrees. So I don't know where they get their info from. I live in West Orange, NJ. No zero temps; certainly nothing below zero. Maybe once in nearly 30 years.
Lots of inaccuracy for sure.
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I tried winter sowing artichokes last year and it worked…mof the only ones that bloomed for me were from my winter sowing….this year I don’t see anything coming yet 🤔 I may plant some seeds indoors tomorrow before it’s too late
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I would like to know how you did the WS with artichokes. I am doing the No Transplant Winter Sowing for my garden.
Did you refrigerate them first? What zone are you in? Are you in Sheryl Mann's FB group?
This year I did not have any luck😕 I don’t know what happened….I’m in 6b. I probably should have kept them on my unheated porch but I put them outside and took off the lids. I think my WS worked much better with lids on…this year the soil was soaked, and I put a lot of holes in the bottom. It’s a little disappointing but I’ll try again. I was able to get some spinach, coneflower’s, and some pollinator blend seeds to grow. Good luck to you!
Great tips!! Thanks.
Glad to share
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My father had artichokes growing in Guadalupe California 500 acres thornless artichokes that they cross bread to make these glob artichokes my newsletter thornless I have a whole bunch in my backyard from that breed as my brother does also he has more than me the breed of thornless globe artichokes a lot of meat on the leaves indoor pedals very good with mayonnaise yum butt butters good too
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Ah this explains why I got no blooms the first year. I put them out after the last frost date. They did bloom the second year but didn't come back the third year. I'm 7b.
Yeah they need the cold period
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Good job
Thanks
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I bought some potting mix from Tractor Supply and it turned out way too chunky and wet for starting seeds and I had to mix it with peat to incorporate it into my garden spot outside. Yours looks nice and loamy. What brand is it and do you have a link to it?
Thanks Gary this is very helpful. I will be growing them in the fall due to the high temps of our summers. Is it helpful to put them out in cold temps or just anytime above 50 F ?
They need a cool period to bud. So your cold should have 40 or 50 degree night for like a minimum of 2 weeks.
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Sheeees ima bout to make all the mistakes
Good luck
Can you plant Artichoke seeds in the end of July, early August in Virginia?
So in Maryland my plants are 50/50 if they survive the winter. You would've to mulch them and protect them.
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I started mine a few weeks ago. I’ve also lost artichoke starts from over watering. They really don’t like it at all do they? I have an unrelated question. In your book you talk about sweet pepper hybrids that are super sweet that you enjoy. Could you let me know a couple you would recommend? I also used your book when I needed shop light grow lights. I was using my expensive reledro lights for starting as well as fruiting and wanted to change that. So thank you.
Nope. Thats why I wanted to stress it. Oh I am terrible and remembering name but 'Just Sweet' was a great one. I think it was an AAS winner. Thanks for the book support. The simple LED Whites are great for seed starts.
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Hey Gary, I'm worried about the supply chain issues we are having. Can you suggest what type of fertilizers I should have on hand to ensure that my garden flourishes? Thanks
Well the most important is water soluble. I would have extra of that and by some top the cheaper chemical types as they last forever and are great for emergency. I like espoma for granular organic. Buy the 20lb bags... much cheaper. I also use a lot of fish emulsion as my water soluble organic
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I’m in Harrisburg Pennsylvania how long the take to harvest. I guest I’m late. Since we’re in May now. 😮👩🏻🌾
I think they bloom in like July
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I'm in the same zone as you are, I didn't see a video of yours for how you winterize these. If you have one can you post a link? Otherwise my main questions when would you cut them back (mine are still growing a/o 10/30)? at groundlevel? and cover them with just mulch?
They can survive here 50/50. But I cut them back and mulch them around this month. A good 6 inches of leaves helps give them a better chance. Move the leaves mid March.
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Did you have to protect any plants from the crazy weather in MD this weekend?
So oddly we got 2 inches of snow first so that will help insulate my sprouted cold weather crops. That was actually the best scenario snow and then the deep cold.
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Hi Gary, I was wondering when a person could start tomatoes and peppers in a 8x10 hoop house? I'm in zone 6a.
Depends on frost. If the HH isn't getting frost now, you can. That is the goal. You want them to go in the ground about 6-8 weeks or so, so time them that way. If they are staying in the hoop house, no frost is the key.
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Maybe I miss it but When you water, do you pour water in the tray or pour on the starting mix.
Water in the tray - bottom up.
Overwatering is my problem. It looks like the bottom leaves are turning a little yellow. How did you save yours that were over watered?
You have to let them dry basically and let the roots recover. Warmth helps them too.
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Can I move my Artichoke if it has already been planned an is at least a foot tall??
I planted mine about three years ago, but there not in a good area. I really don't want to start all over again. I am getting them, I just want them bigger.
You can but just dig out a big ball of soil and water transplant every day or so for 10 days.
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Zones dont matter. Im at zone 9 and everything freezes in the winter and dies
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never Eaton Artichokes before how do you eat them
So you steam them is one way and scrape the tender leaves with your teeth. To be honest I just love watching them flower and seeing the bees in the flowers. That is worth it.
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Grammar check (sorry, I can't help myself. Drives me NUTS!) The variety (that we're going to be growing) IS (not are) green globe.... "Variety is green globe".... Where did you get any reason to go plural? The predicate of a sentence agrees in number with the SUBJECT (in this case, "variety"), not the object. I think in this case you were thinking about what might have been the object, "artichokes." Perhaps you were thinking, "The variety (that we're going to be growing) is/are green globe artichokes. But the predicate is "is", either way. "Variety is," not "variety are." Doesn't matter what the object is, doesn't matter what the nearest noun is. And you'll never see this. Alas.
Lol I dont worry about it that much. You are right but there are other concerns that top my list. I make plenty of grammatical errors. I wont remember all that. But I keep on rolling.
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Grammar is not that important in backyard gardening….maybe you should watch master gardeners if grammar is so important to you…just saying.
I apologize, I am a grammar fanatic, having been a member of the last generation to whom they bothered to teach English grammar. The variety you've chosen to grow IS, not ARE, no matter how many are in the object of the sentence. Predicates, or verbs, or action words, agree with the subject of a sentence, not with the object, and not with the nearest noun, no matter how plural it is. You said, "the variety we're going to be growing are green globe..." No, no, no, no, no. The variety (singular) you are going to be growing IS, not are, IS green globe. Variety is, not variety are. Please. I beg you.
Well. I dont mind a correction but that probably wont change as doing video, walking, and talking, primes me for lots of mistakes.
I dont care about grammar i just care about plants. If i wanted to learn grammar i would watch a grammar video 🤣🤣🤣
Language is constantly in flux. No serious grammarian corrects a casual youtube video. You're probably a person who got corrected too strictly by your teacher and now you think that paying that forward is somehow a virtue. "Last generation that..." get over yourself. What a bore you must be.
Just lost a plant to root rot.... 😢
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