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  • @mikhailbolodo1597
    @mikhailbolodo1597 3 роки тому +94

    "Grinding down these lines is a big decision"
    Me who decided to grind all the german tech trees : Uh.. Sure is.

    • @Insight337
      @Insight337 3 роки тому

      Same

    • @yy-ry9cg
      @yy-ry9cg 3 роки тому

      Same

    • @ethan_-hv3zv
      @ethan_-hv3zv 2 роки тому +5

      me grinding it because i like tutel and jpanther:

    • @اسكندرفكار
      @اسكندرفكار 2 роки тому +2

      @@ethan_-hv3zv what is tutel

    • @Luwo.
      @Luwo. Рік тому +1

      @@اسكندرفكار hetzer tier 4 tank destroyer

  • @porsche911sbs
    @porsche911sbs 3 роки тому +81

    considering how massive the Jageroo is, I feel it could use a few more hitpoints
    the Grille meanwhile I think should have less hitpoints, but much better camo

    • @dankllamas6984
      @dankllamas6984 3 роки тому +2

      The jag is an e100 with a much better gun, the downsides being 750 hp, a bit of power to weight, and a lack of a turret. A hp buff would mean the only downsides would be a bit of hp, a bit of power to weight, and a lack of a turret. It would be VERY strong, much stronger than the e100.

    • @dankllamas6984
      @dankllamas6984 3 роки тому

      @Aetacy having a turret does make a difference, but it isn't too important for the superheavy playstyle. Having a turret helps with being circled and peeking angles. The side armor on superheavies are enough to give circling enemies a hard time. In a superheavy, you should peek angles by sidescraping, a tactic that doesn't require much turret movement.

    • @minhh1356
      @minhh1356 3 роки тому

      @@dankllamas6984 having a turret lets you peek and trade much faster and more efficiently though, you also expose your tank less

    • @christbenitez8797
      @christbenitez8797 2 роки тому

      The grille needs a better camo because it lacks armor, but make it's speed and rotation -1

  • @h0griph
    @h0griph 3 роки тому +53

    Droodles in Grille: Oh no Himmelsdorf!
    Me: I got my top damage ever in the Grille on this map…

    • @mafiaman5862
      @mafiaman5862 3 роки тому +5

      The grille is my favourite tank and the most tank i play
      The only map i don't like with grille could be mines

    • @unknownsoldier007
      @unknownsoldier007 3 роки тому +3

      @@mafiaman5862 tbh who likes mines in any tank

    • @h0griph
      @h0griph 3 роки тому

      @@mafiaman5862 I actually really like that map for the Grille if you spawn at the side that is further away from the river, you can snipe enemies that are in the town aswell as on the hill

    • @dusmantaborgohain7600
      @dusmantaborgohain7600 3 роки тому

      @@unknownsoldier007 hey how do you play 50B and TDs in mines?? And rear mounted turrets??? Pls help.

    • @jiimmiij4428
      @jiimmiij4428 3 роки тому

      Dusmanta Borgohain probably flank

  • @adyatma1
    @adyatma1 3 роки тому +10

    The jageroo is one of my favourite. Not only the armor, but the gun is so deadly because i put both chocolate on the consumables and gun rammer making it 15 second reload
    And really accurate for a 17cm gun

  • @Bloodshed_Silence
    @Bloodshed_Silence 3 роки тому +27

    “If we get himmelsedorf we are all out of luck”
    Proceeds to get himmelsdorf
    Me: welcome to the club droodles

  • @heavenly2244
    @heavenly2244 3 роки тому +38

    Love how he changes his accent whenever he says “progetto” and “268” 😂😂😂

  • @mikemahmoud6563
    @mikemahmoud6563 3 роки тому +2

    Jageroo was my first, 2nd m48, always and still love them. Jageroo always front-line, but recently just deciding to camp at the start, and then push in mid game. Grill is next on my list

  • @Iretnas1
    @Iretnas1 3 роки тому +6

    Of course, when u were left alone on grille, all ur team mate was just "Hey its ok, i tried". But when someone random player is left alone, all u can read is "noob, DELETE game" or "stupid Bots"

    • @hexwave9764
      @hexwave9764 3 роки тому +1

      hes a famous youtuber

    • @Iretnas1
      @Iretnas1 3 роки тому +1

      @@hexwave9764 really?

  • @andarchy1386
    @andarchy1386 3 роки тому

    Gee thanks Droodles a week ago I had this exact question as I researched them both but like you I'm an aggressive player so gratefully I picked the jge100

  • @christbenitez8797
    @christbenitez8797 2 роки тому

    Jg E100 was my second tier X TD, my first tier X was FV4202 the most painful medium tank tech tree to grind.

  • @Nymecente
    @Nymecente 3 роки тому +1

    9:00 that sounded like spall liner was sponsoring the video

  • @konstantinclark
    @konstantinclark 3 роки тому +1

    Hey Droodels can you compare the T110E3 and E4?

  • @RaffyGreen
    @RaffyGreen 3 роки тому

    11:28 droodles doing army like music gives me the laughs, makes me laugh so hard 🤣🤣🤣

  • @abelbankuti901
    @abelbankuti901 2 роки тому +1

    Hi, im struggling to decide, so can anyone help me? Which line should i grind? The grille's line, or the panther's line? Which has better tanks?

    • @christbenitez8797
      @christbenitez8797 2 роки тому

      Depends what on your playstyle, if you want a peak and boom TD tank, pick the grille tech tree to grind but it lacks armor and have some issues with it's camo percentage and overall it's a 9/10 tank if you know how to traverse it acrose different maps.
      If you like turretless tank and more on armor. Pick the JAGERO E100 tech tree, it offers good frontal armor protection and has an alpha damage of 800. It can tanked some damage against it's fellow TDs if you angle it properly, but don't travel alone and always check if there are medium tanks or light tanks to support you and to avoid getting flank.
      the Jg E100 is a good heavy TD and it's a 9/10 tank too.

    • @abelbankuti901
      @abelbankuti901 2 роки тому

      @@christbenitez8797 i already have both lines, but thanks

    • @christbenitez8797
      @christbenitez8797 2 роки тому

      @@abelbankuti901 oh hahaha no problem I suppose. Both are good tanks btw.

  • @josearmandoahuelicanduarte3144
    @josearmandoahuelicanduarte3144 3 роки тому +2

    Nice bro, salute

  • @monkeymuncher2
    @monkeymuncher2 3 роки тому +1

    What TD should I grind other than the Obj 268? (Considering MT meta in 8.2)

    • @exolord_trinity1495
      @exolord_trinity1495 3 роки тому

      183 or 183 i guess

    • @_bippu6643
      @_bippu6643 3 роки тому

      foch gud med/heavy support, 4005 play like a med, 263 getting buffed, hori gud traverse speed hard to get circled (imo with my 7k td battles)

    • @mouth7137
      @mouth7137 3 роки тому

      263 or foch 155 because they have the speed to chase mediums and traverse to prevent being circled especially 263 after getting buffed . Both are heavy enough to pry lights and meds off your side using a wall. And since they're heavy, they can do similar ramming damage as the e50m

    • @PessiAndPenaldoggyAreFinished
      @PessiAndPenaldoggyAreFinished 3 роки тому

      @@exolord_trinity1495 183 is trash

    • @PessiAndPenaldoggyAreFinished
      @PessiAndPenaldoggyAreFinished 3 роки тому

      @@mouth7137 That is why I love foch and 263

  • @jellybombyt1638
    @jellybombyt1638 3 роки тому +2

    Flat out grille didn’t need the spall liner it needed better camo

    • @dankllamas6984
      @dankllamas6984 3 роки тому

      It wouldn't need the spall liner if it had good camo.

    • @dankllamas6984
      @dankllamas6984 3 роки тому

      @Basic comments the gun is long, but the overall size of the tank is tiny compared to other tier 10s. Just look at the ho ri. Just as long of a gun and much larger, yet twice the camo. Also, many other tanks have good camo and speed. In theory, what you're saying is true. In practice, there are way too many things in a game for a specific strategy to always be possible. You would first have to get behind them. Then you would have to be far enough away to not be spotted. Then you have to get lucky by not being spotted by enemy TDs, which would also be behind the enemy. If what you're saying is true, then light tanks would be op.

    • @dankllamas6984
      @dankllamas6984 3 роки тому

      @Basic comments wg doesn't have a history of balancing tanks off of stats

  • @spazztic6172
    @spazztic6172 Рік тому

    I just got the jagdpanzer e-100 and on some games I can do good but others I can rarely get the opportunity too shoot because of allies killing everything or me getting swarmed by lights

  • @jaysonwhite4473
    @jaysonwhite4473 3 роки тому +2

    For me, I love the Grille better I mean sure BIG gun is nice heavy armor is nice but I like a TD that can put out shells pretty fast do a lot of DMG in a short amount of time

    • @mafiaman5862
      @mafiaman5862 3 роки тому +1

      Me too 👌😗

    • @AtelierMoulineaux
      @AtelierMoulineaux 11 місяців тому

      2hy a td? A tank with fast reload and high alpha is the wz 121, though it is a medium with decent mobility, great turret armor, 2 seconds of aiming time and fkng tungsten

    • @TDBEARO74
      @TDBEARO74 11 місяців тому

      TDs is what always worked the best for me. It's what I was more comfortable with. But with all the negative things been going on with this game I no longer play or ever will play and I have lots of really nice thanks spent money on tanks. I been playing from 2017 but about two weeks ago I quit.

  • @istaycatchingfish2552
    @istaycatchingfish2552 3 роки тому +1

    Add the reticle calibration consumable to the Jadgpanzer like the Grille has(And never needed)...

  • @don683
    @don683 3 роки тому +2

    I love the grille my favorite t10 to this day with my best winrate just started my jageroo grind today tho

  • @navieraTM
    @navieraTM 3 роки тому

    I was in a video :D I was slimeonblitz

  • @Fiid-o
    @Fiid-o 3 роки тому

    Always loved the grille both in blitz and on PC

  • @assassin7597
    @assassin7597 2 роки тому

    11:58 : "wawebedababa" XD

  • @Notpa
    @Notpa 3 роки тому

    i hate spail liner when im playing wz121 i dont even bother shooting the fv4005 waffle and grille with he cause i do less which is quite annoying

  • @duckplaysyt8515
    @duckplaysyt8515 Рік тому

    As a person that uses JgPzE100 Its super Good Its amazing it never fails me when i play it but when team doesnt know what are they doing It fails But mainly if you wiggle the tank u will get a lot of Bounces

  • @totalpsycho1980
    @totalpsycho1980 3 роки тому

    I've did a hard grind and I have both the Jagdpanzer auf E-100 and the Grille 15

  • @peter7027
    @peter7027 3 роки тому

    IN THE RIGHT MAP THE OUTCOME WOULD VARY GREATLY FOR BOTH TANKS. I LIKE TO COMPARE THE SAME MAPS FOR BOTH TANKS. SRY CAPS

  • @Russão000
    @Russão000 3 роки тому +3

    Grille should have more Camoflage and penetration see my logic:
    Long barrel the bullet go faster, it pen more bcs the overpressure go pen more than it is now in the game, (i talking about pen people go say its soo OP, ho-ri got pratically 400mm of premium Pen and 268 too and more, they had camoflage and armor) and camoflage, grille its a low profile hull tank, yes the turret its a quite tall and the gun its long its looks like an arty, grille dont had armor so its need a good camoflage to be good like a sniper
    (sorry for the bad english bruh im not a english speaker)

    • @monkeymuncher2
      @monkeymuncher2 3 роки тому +3

      I think it just needs slightly more camo but the pen is fine

    • @exolord_trinity1495
      @exolord_trinity1495 3 роки тому

      Pen too op needs a re skin for my opinion

    • @dimitrikhokjnikrov3452
      @dimitrikhokjnikrov3452 3 роки тому

      I would like wg to give it 85mm of he instead of 75

    • @HuTaoIsMyGirl
      @HuTaoIsMyGirl 3 роки тому +1

      Ho-Ri actually doesn't even have 350mm of premium pen

    • @monkeymuncher2
      @monkeymuncher2 3 роки тому +1

      @@HuTaoIsMyGirl it's got premium ap, there's such thing as she'll normalization

  • @notmwuah6734
    @notmwuah6734 3 роки тому

    wow, years ago i used to play wot pc, man do the nastogia be hittin hard

  • @DSIREX_
    @DSIREX_ 3 роки тому +1

    The fact they are both accurate

  • @captainmarshy1268
    @captainmarshy1268 Рік тому

    Have both tanks, good at both tanks, and both are fun.
    They are both good tanks. Its just depends on the player's preference.

  • @WNL965
    @WNL965 3 роки тому +2

    Grille needs its original top speed of 60km back

    • @monkeymuncher2
      @monkeymuncher2 3 роки тому +4

      no it needs camo buff :(

    • @Monster64Official
      @Monster64Official 3 роки тому

      @@monkeymuncher2 it needs speed, camo, health, armour and camo buff all together to make it good

    • @monkeymuncher2
      @monkeymuncher2 3 роки тому

      @@Monster64Official uh no thx itll be op

    • @__chinmay__
      @__chinmay__ 2 роки тому +1

      @@Monster64Official are you drunk af?

    • @christbenitez8797
      @christbenitez8797 2 роки тому

      Back in WOT pc when it was first introduced, the grille is goddamn OP hahaha

  • @blitzer25blitz62
    @blitzer25blitz62 3 роки тому

    i grinded all german tanks and having every german tier 10s. probably u should grind the Jgpz first. if u can master that 17cm, it'll help at gaining experience for handling 150mm RHM n WT pz IV. btw every tank b4 the jgpz starting from tier 6 all having dpm/moderate alpha gameplay, which is vastly different from jgpz gameplay.

  • @arnavbahuguna390
    @arnavbahuguna390 3 роки тому

    The jageroo is my first T10! as well as the only :'( but its really fun bullying other t10s with this tank. I'd personally recommend grinding down this line since the fun starts at the t7 jpanther in the line!!

  • @BlackNRedBiker
    @BlackNRedBiker 3 роки тому +2

    The jageroo is 100% the better tank, the grille could be good, all wg have to do is switch the grille and waffentrager around, give the wt a hp buff for being tier 10 and boom, a good tier 10 td, the grille just doesn't cut it because of the lack of camo, it's the biggest weakness of glass cannons in this game is the maps are soo damn small they can't do much most of the time unless they have e25 levels of camo

    • @mafiaman5862
      @mafiaman5862 3 роки тому +1

      The grille is my favourite tank and i can get 3000 damage easily in any map except mines
      But i also wish to get camo buff

    • @BlackNRedBiker
      @BlackNRedBiker 3 роки тому

      @@mafiaman5862 I don't mind mines, it's not the worst map for unarmoured tds, but not the best either, yeah the grille would be soo much better if it had working camo but that's probably why wg won't give it camo, actually making a German tank op is something wg will probably never do, even tho the wt is pretty close to being op tbh as long as the team spot effectively

    • @christbenitez8797
      @christbenitez8797 2 роки тому

      The E25 is so annoying in tier 7 battle lol.

  • @hmsy2238
    @hmsy2238 3 роки тому +6

    The waffle is better than grille, so i would go for the jge100

    • @t410lenovo8
      @t410lenovo8 3 роки тому

      Glif you can use the grilles dpm its much better for dmg, and for winning

    • @hmsy2238
      @hmsy2238 3 роки тому

      @@t410lenovo8 but dpm isn't everything... i understand what your saying, but to me the waffle is just so much flexible

    • @t410lenovo8
      @t410lenovo8 3 роки тому

      @@hmsy2238 i know what ur saying, but the grille has better gun, better mobility, waffle has better flexability, armor is the same sh it so grille 3 waffle 2

    • @hmsy2238
      @hmsy2238 3 роки тому

      @@t410lenovo8 well... it really just depends on what you prefer

    • @t410lenovo8
      @t410lenovo8 3 роки тому

      @@hmsy2238 yes exactly

  • @vitset679
    @vitset679 3 роки тому

    Tbh I think I would love to play both tanks, but I don't have grille, I think it will be my next tank to grind

    • @twismata
      @twismata 3 роки тому

      I honestly like and enjoy the WT way more than the Grille, but good luck grinding!

  • @anilgeorgegeorge1553
    @anilgeorgegeorge1553 8 місяців тому +1

    The grille 15 has huge weakness and that is the grille 15 s turret cheaks that can be easily he d😂

  • @friddoch8907
    @friddoch8907 3 роки тому

    grinding down the grille line is the best decision I ever made in Blitz and now the Grille is my most played tank and I have 1.5M XP in it ..... lol

  • @adityabanerjee6950
    @adityabanerjee6950 3 роки тому +1

    I would not not mind if WG gives Grille 15 more camo in cost for 300 dpm

    • @skyeplays1772
      @skyeplays1772 3 роки тому

      yea it makes no sense, it's literally a gun on a track, how does it have that bad camo

    • @christbenitez8797
      @christbenitez8797 2 роки тому

      But make it's reloading time to 7.3 seconds

  • @TheDeathReaper141
    @TheDeathReaper141 3 роки тому

    Did 1,136 dmg to a Vickers , using a High Explosive in my Grille 15. That was also do to a bit of fire dmg, thought it was funny as hell!

  • @Kwachiii
    @Kwachiii 3 роки тому +1

    I have both jageroo and grille, and I enjoy the grille more than the jageroo

  • @arcadio2385
    @arcadio2385 3 роки тому +1

    Gotta give grille wayyyyy more camo and jag e100 much more health

  • @stxr5218
    @stxr5218 3 роки тому +1

    They have same gun but Jg's average damage is 800

  • @duongmai1514
    @duongmai1514 3 роки тому

    Jagero's armor is not as troll as GRILLE's GUN

  • @ramiroloria2185
    @ramiroloria2185 3 роки тому

    elmo doesn't care if you're a jagerooo or grille fan you all taste the same

  • @R3v3rs3_sh3ll
    @R3v3rs3_sh3ll 3 роки тому

    Jageroo or the grille I'm going to have all the t10 from German line up, already have vk72 and e100 all other at tier 9😛

  • @snoop512
    @snoop512 3 роки тому

    Thighs that would make the Grille no longer a virgin WT auf Pz IV
    - Better Camo
    - A fully traversible turret

    • @snoop512
      @snoop512 3 роки тому +1

      Prime_of_Blitz you know what ur right

  • @PortgasDACE-yz2hw
    @PortgasDACE-yz2hw 3 роки тому

    I like the grille but I can't get it bcs im stuck at Waffle

  • @FV-wy2pu
    @FV-wy2pu 3 роки тому

    11:58 Wtf🤣🤣

  • @phish8877
    @phish8877 3 роки тому

    Conclusion of this video: if you wanted the best. You buy germans

  • @justsomerandomguy7693
    @justsomerandomguy7693 3 роки тому +1

    nobody absolutely nobody
    The first people to comment:FIRST!

  • @user-sg9ql8nk1u
    @user-sg9ql8nk1u 3 роки тому +1

    better to buy them after u have a good farming tank cuz u dont wanna know how it painful to grind TD bruh

    • @shadowassassin5989
      @shadowassassin5989 Рік тому

      Wdym ,that line was the easyest line i've done

    • @user-sg9ql8nk1u
      @user-sg9ql8nk1u Рік тому +1

      @@shadowassassin5989 playing td are generally k i n d a harder than other kind of tank unless u know wtf u doing

    • @shadowassassin5989
      @shadowassassin5989 Рік тому

      @@user-sg9ql8nk1u I agreed

  • @earthchicken2233
    @earthchicken2233 3 роки тому +1

    i have both and i like them both...
    ...your welcome for the help

  • @tofita7amed168
    @tofita7amed168 3 роки тому

    Day 8 of asking droodles to make a pz2 g review

  • @joelgray5536
    @joelgray5536 2 роки тому

    Dude has 1.4 mil exp in the jagaroo

  • @gamer-vl9si
    @gamer-vl9si 3 роки тому

    I am going for Jagdpanzer e100 that tank i am now at Jagdtiger

  • @jonasschafer9097
    @jonasschafer9097 3 роки тому

    Jagtpanzer e100 is very nice amored:c

  • @jeszczeczego
    @jeszczeczego 3 роки тому

    What u say grill do not bounc. That's not true they are sometimes protect bether than jg E100

  • @lazuardialghifari8689
    @lazuardialghifari8689 3 роки тому

    I'm more afraid of Jagpz e100 than grile cuz its armor....I only afraid of grile if its troll my he, like I never HE it again....rather hit my shoot....Grile is more annoying than e100 cuz its mobility....

    • @lazuardialghifari8689
      @lazuardialghifari8689 3 роки тому

      @Aetacy I always brawl it with my VK 72.01K, if I bear hug it, I have a chance..but if if not...mostly I loose, that alpha wreck me hard...

  • @jessestreek3692
    @jessestreek3692 3 роки тому +1

    ill grill your grill

  • @justblitz453
    @justblitz453 3 роки тому

    DAyum wot pc graphics. Still love blitz tho.

  • @2beens
    @2beens 3 роки тому

    414 pen More Than Destory Anything!

  • @jellybombyt1638
    @jellybombyt1638 3 роки тому

    Sup dude

  • @danpadurariu4371
    @danpadurariu4371 3 роки тому

    Grille is not that accurate. Misses a lot of distance shots fully aimed in.

    • @yoboyshane.9579
      @yoboyshane.9579 3 роки тому

      Maybe you suck, its accurate i myself use it on gravity mode and i can hit enemy tanks from the back of the map while im in mid air or them.

    • @danpadurariu4371
      @danpadurariu4371 3 роки тому

      @@yoboyshane.9579 look how many shots Droodles misses.

    • @yoboyshane.9579
      @yoboyshane.9579 3 роки тому

      @@danpadurariu4371 then maybe he also suck.

    • @danpadurariu4371
      @danpadurariu4371 3 роки тому

      @@yoboyshane.9579 66% win rate in Grille, still think is sucks.
      Juicy did a stream recently and complained about how inacurate it is. I stick to that.

    • @yoboyshane.9579
      @yoboyshane.9579 3 роки тому +1

      @@danpadurariu4371 okay thats gotta be your opinion and his, k i wont bother you again.

  • @bruv.6001
    @bruv.6001 3 роки тому +2

    Both is good for me, but grille need more skill

  • @cheesey6648
    @cheesey6648 3 роки тому

    Ur pernoincing grille wrong

  • @goldpotato1885
    @goldpotato1885 3 роки тому

    the bigger the uun the better

  • @Akai_Batchat
    @Akai_Batchat 3 роки тому

    Hi

  • @stew347
    @stew347 3 роки тому

    I hate the jag so much because I suck at it

  • @TheSG4003D
    @TheSG4003D 3 роки тому

    Hm

  • @justsomerandomguy7693
    @justsomerandomguy7693 3 роки тому +2

    Yay I'm early again

  • @nuzza9543
    @nuzza9543 3 роки тому

    Whenever I play the mighty Jageroo, I get penned by nearly every shot doesn't matter how much I wiggle and angle my tank and somehow, every shot I fire either misses or I get a low roll of 600

  • @unclejimmy256
    @unclejimmy256 3 роки тому

    Jageroo all the way

  • @aPhatWalrus
    @aPhatWalrus 3 роки тому +1

    Not first

  • @fajrulnaufal
    @fajrulnaufal 3 роки тому

    my first t10 is better of course, jageroo

  • @bhawanisingh2251
    @bhawanisingh2251 3 роки тому

    At this point droodles is rlly outta ideas and making same boring content over and over again. Droodles man you can play other popular games also like minecraft etc so to make your content interesting

  • @gyoerdy7832
    @gyoerdy7832 3 роки тому

    Ahh 360p!!!

  • @bdestroyer4189
    @bdestroyer4189 3 роки тому +1

    grille better

  • @FOOTBALLXEDITS17
    @FOOTBALLXEDITS17 3 роки тому

    Don't by is 7 ammo rack

  • @eminem_enjoyer210
    @eminem_enjoyer210 3 роки тому

    Jg e100 is BIG brother of fernudant

  • @rstheone3255
    @rstheone3255 3 роки тому

    9th

  • @weiwu4737
    @weiwu4737 3 роки тому

    First

  • @NurembergSwampWater
    @NurembergSwampWater 2 роки тому

    Grille 15 is better

  • @techshree_4193
    @techshree_4193 3 роки тому

    first

    • @anhkietle9941
      @anhkietle9941 3 роки тому +1

      There’s a guy who comment 1 sec ahead of u lol

    • @boop9494
      @boop9494 3 роки тому

      youre not first

    • @boop9494
      @boop9494 3 роки тому

      the first comment said "hi"

    • @ence1540
      @ence1540 3 роки тому

      Who cares who's first bruh

  • @junorobinson9200
    @junorobinson9200 3 роки тому

    bratwurst wins

  • @Svicetta
    @Svicetta 3 роки тому

    hi