Nikola Jokic's numbers were OFF THE CHARTS 📈 But did SGA have a BETTER case for MVP? | Get Up

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  • On Get Up, Mike Greenberg is joined by Andraya Carter, Brian Windhorst, Jay Williams and Chiney Ogwumike to discuss Nikola Jokic winning his third NBA MVP over Shai Gilgeous-Alexander.
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  • @zukusenryu
    @zukusenryu Місяць тому +28

    MVP well deserved
    Jokic stats:
    10th in ppg (5th in total)
    4th in RPG (3rd in total)
    3rd APG (2nd in total)
    2nd in field goals made
    8th in steals
    58.3 field goal %
    65% true shooting
    9th in minutes played
    1st in PER
    1st in win shares
    1st box plus/minus
    1st in VORP
    1st in PIE
    2nd in triple doubles
    On floor +11.6
    Off floor -8.4
    On/off = +20
    1st player to total 2000/900/700

  • @andreas_kuenster
    @andreas_kuenster Місяць тому +52

    Doncic is not even in the conversation is wild. WILD

    • @robbyx6846
      @robbyx6846 Місяць тому

      He doesn’t play defense

    • @Ohtani9999
      @Ohtani9999 Місяць тому +1

      How is he not in the conversation. He’s number 3 when his team is 5th in the west 😅

    • @chauvintookaknee4blm268
      @chauvintookaknee4blm268 Місяць тому

      @@robbyx6846 want proof

    • @robbyx6846
      @robbyx6846 Місяць тому

      @@Ohtani9999 Luka isnt a 2 way player and is hurt all the time . That is a liability not a mvp

    • @100percentBroonese
      @100percentBroonese Місяць тому

      Imptybed won mvp but luka should ein because he reach west finals ​@@robbyx6846

  • @tigerhoods7927
    @tigerhoods7927 Місяць тому +106

    You know your a great player when fans start hating you 😂

    • @DynoGreen313
      @DynoGreen313 Місяць тому +7

      fans hate players who suck too so ...

    • @Ohtani9999
      @Ohtani9999 Місяць тому +3

      Too dominant*. Like how people hated warriors

    • @javarzshinall9396
      @javarzshinall9396 Місяць тому

      It's not hate he doing what Westbrook was doing in his prime but he only won

    • @W2Tymes
      @W2Tymes Місяць тому +5

      Nobody hates Jokic, SGA was just more deserving.

    • @godbodydmn
      @godbodydmn Місяць тому +1

      makes sense since no one has more haters than the GOAT, LeBron🐐🐐

  • @smithfan22
    @smithfan22 Місяць тому +94

    How many players in league history have averaged 34 9 and 9 and didn’t even get 2nd in MVP votes?

    • @saiyanprince2795
      @saiyanprince2795 Місяць тому +4

      5th seed

    • @semkn9555
      @semkn9555 Місяць тому +6

      1 player. Like how can we talk about sga deserving it when luka took a lottery team to the 5th seed in a stacked west while putting up numbers better than prime harden

    • @heirrose1606
      @heirrose1606 Місяць тому

      It's predictable that would happen in a soft era without defense when offense is played on Easy Mode.

    • @Ohtani9999
      @Ohtani9999 Місяць тому +1

      @semkn9555 😅 you just made the case for Jason Kidd and GM. Last year they were lottery team with 2 same stars

    • @edemehtawardhana5962
      @edemehtawardhana5962 Місяць тому

      who's that?

  • @Edison.m3806
    @Edison.m3806 Місяць тому +25

    Jokic will go down as one of the most disrespected MVP winners of all time

    • @easylife6348
      @easylife6348 Місяць тому +3

      Not one of the most but the MOST disrespected in history

    • @mashedpotato982
      @mashedpotato982 Місяць тому

      good ting he doesn't seem to care.

  • @herbertnelsonjr.9899
    @herbertnelsonjr.9899 Місяць тому +14

    How are they repeating 4×s for MJs MVPs and nobody on set is correcting them. This is silly in an era of fake news and false narratives. It is getting increasingly difficult to listen to these talking heads who apparently don't know anything at all

    • @Woody13woodpecker
      @Woody13woodpecker Місяць тому

      Correct, but even the ex basketball players, at least the majority of them, having podcasts are cruising in " narrative land" big time!
      It's quite disgusting, but people whom don't watch regularly tend to believe them, on the premise that they have played, and understand the game.

  • @herbertnelsonjr.9899
    @herbertnelsonjr.9899 Місяць тому +47

    Michael Jordan has 5 MVPS! That graphic is grossly wrong!! How can a show not have incorrect information!!!

    • @dukeloc23
      @dukeloc23 Місяць тому +30

      He does have 5 but one before the 90s. ESPN is on lebum's nuts, so they are trying to make it even with the GOAT.

    • @jacobmcklowski4428
      @jacobmcklowski4428 Місяць тому +15

      They gotta prop Lebron up somehow. They purposely made it start in the 90s.

    • @OggiTr0n
      @OggiTr0n Місяць тому +18

      Little weird, but they count MVPs since the 1990-1991 season as it says in the title of the graphic, MJ's first MVP was in 1988.

    • @jaseford6105
      @jaseford6105 Місяць тому

      @@jacobmcklowski4428u done jerkin MJ off?

    • @neoxsupreme
      @neoxsupreme Місяць тому +4

      MJ has 5 MVPs overall. That graphic only displayed MVPs since 1990. MJ had his first MVP in 1988 so that wasn't counted.

  • @edemehtawardhana5962
    @edemehtawardhana5962 Місяць тому +13

    "Yay... I win... Now guys, about that Horse I mentioned before interrupted by Chuck..."

  • @Shadows_Lights
    @Shadows_Lights Місяць тому +10

    ESPN hating luka as usual

  • @kohta20
    @kohta20 Місяць тому +9

    Greeny accidentally spitting facts that LUKA has voter fatigue!

  • @TeamDaemon1980
    @TeamDaemon1980 Місяць тому +10

    Players with at least 3 MVPs
    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar: 6
    Bill Russell: 5
    Michael Jordan: 5
    Wilt Chamberlain: 4
    LeBron James: 4
    Moses Malone: 3
    Larry Bird: 3
    Magic Johnson: 3
    Nikola Jokic: 3
    I know people say it’s a crime that Kobe only won 1 MVP, but it’s a shame that Shaq only won 1 MVP. Duncan won 2 but he probably deserved at least 3. But the media were too busy spreading the love by giving MVPs to Iverson in 2001, KG in 2004, Nash in 2005 and 2006, and Dirk in 2007.

    • @OG725
      @OG725 Місяць тому +3

      Pat4Clippers with the good ol’ copy and paste 🤣

    • @cyber6sapien
      @cyber6sapien Місяць тому +4

      Dirk deserved two MVPs, not one. He led the Mavs to back to back 60 game seasons while having no other All Star or future Hall of famer on his team. How many of the other guys you listed can say the same thing?

    • @DrSJH159
      @DrSJH159 Місяць тому +1

      Revisionist history. Look at the actual seasons

    • @eitherholyorevil7546
      @eitherholyorevil7546 Місяць тому

      Here we go Revionist Historian 😂

  • @tman2741
    @tman2741 Місяць тому +40

    Luka averaged 34, 9 and 9 and they wanna bring up how jokic nearly averaged a triple double ? Luka nearly averaged triple double as well while leading the league in scoring

    • @jwinthepro
      @jwinthepro Місяць тому +3

      Luka washed

    • @Davidstone568
      @Davidstone568 Місяць тому +9

      Luka will never be an nba fav. The nba talking heads bash him every chance they get. The nba refs allow thugs to beat on him. Luka is ok with it anyway. He just goes out and proves his haters are nba stupid 😂😂😂

    • @javarzshinall9396
      @javarzshinall9396 Місяць тому

      Jokic never won a scoring title

    • @hey_its_branden
      @hey_its_branden Місяць тому +3

      Luka was a 5 seed while the other 2 were the top 2 seeds in the same conference

    • @YBfromHolworthy-io7tv
      @YBfromHolworthy-io7tv Місяць тому +1

      Luka??? Really? The dude who crys and flops on every single possession? Luka is a ball hog. Get your head out of your rear 😂

  • @Jetplizzle
    @Jetplizzle Місяць тому +40

    The hate on Jokic being MVP is crazy n uncalled for smh

    • @Reaper13-hi3yo
      @Reaper13-hi3yo Місяць тому +4

      One way players will never get the same respect as two-way players. IE: Steph Curry. There are two sides to a basketball court, not one.

    • @DynoGreen313
      @DynoGreen313 Місяць тому +4

      if jokic were black and sga is white who gets this yrs mvp? we already know

    • @Rushking20
      @Rushking20 Місяць тому +7

      @@pekileki83jokic got more mvps then kobe playing 0 defense and he about to get swept getting shut down by naz reid and Kat lol he not on those guys level

    • @realamerican8069
      @realamerican8069 Місяць тому +1

      @@DynoGreen313facts!

    • @SPACEKNOCKERZ76
      @SPACEKNOCKERZ76 Місяць тому +1

      I don’t hate him but think sga should’ve won it.

  • @simonattalla3395
    @simonattalla3395 Місяць тому +23

    Sorry how we not talking about how JOKIC done all this without any teammates having any personal accolades, no all stars no dpoys dont be quick to judge

    • @Onemore984
      @Onemore984 Місяць тому +10

      Are you a 🤡? They literally won the chip last year. Compare that to SGA leading his team to a better record that the current Champs...💀🤡

    • @jamesonedwardsii4943
      @jamesonedwardsii4943 Місяць тому +1

      @@Onemore984Denver and OKC had the same record…….. Jokic posted superior numbers.

    • @simonattalla3395
      @simonattalla3395 Місяць тому +1

      @@Onemore984 which he lead them to the chip as the only all star and all nba player in that team. And you’re the clown for not knowing they had the same exact record 🤡🤡🤡

    • @franknatti5367
      @franknatti5367 Місяць тому +1

      Tired of giving him a pity award because of his teammates every year. Stop it he didn’t deserve it. He won’t win it anymore

    • @simonattalla3395
      @simonattalla3395 Місяць тому +1

      @@jamesonedwardsii4943 thank you for shutting this clown up 😭. Let sga have his ten ft a game 💀

  • @TeamDaemon1980
    @TeamDaemon1980 Місяць тому +3

    The reason why Kobe only won 1 MVP is he played next to Shaq. They canceled each other out. It would create a split vote picking one player from the same team. But I thought Kobe deserved to win at least 3 (2006, 2008, 2009). He only won in 2008. While Shaq should’ve won for 2000, 2001, and maybe even 2005. Perhaps should’ve won it in 1995 that went to DRob and 1999 that went to Karl.
    Shaq was more valuable than Kobe when they were together. The Lakers with Shaq but minus Kobe still won over 70% of their games. With Kobe but without Shaq, they became a .500 team. Then we saw Shaq’s impact right away in Miami. Went to the ECF but lost in 7 to Detroit because DWade got hurt. Then won a chip the following year. Prior to Pau, Kobe’s Lakers went 34, 45, and 42 wins. Lottery, First Round exit, and First Round exit to the Suns.
    Michael Jordan deserved at least 7-8 MVPs. People say he deserved it for 1993 but I actually thought the voters got it right with Charles Barkley. The Suns had the best record in the NBA. Bulls were only the 3rd best behind the 62-win Suns and 60-win Knicks. The year MJ should’ve won MVPs were in 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1996, 1997, and 1998.
    In 1989 and 1990, it went to Magic Johnson. I think voters were feeling since Larry Bird had 3 MVPs, Magic deserved at least 3. Now Magic did have a better team record in those years. They won over 60 in 1990 only to shockingly lose to the Suns in the Semifinals. But Jordan’s numbers were probably better than Magic’s and carried lesser talent than when Magic won MVP in 1987, 1989, and 1990.
    LeBron James probably should’ve won at least 6 MVPs. I will give him 6 straight from 2010-2015. I will give Steph the MVP for 2016 because they went 73-9. You can argue LeBron deserved it for 2017. Westbrook was on a 7th seed who got bounced in the First Round but he got MVP simply because of his triple-double season we hadn’t seen since 1962 from Big O. In 2018, I think Harden deserved it though. Rockets went 65-17. Cavs only won 50 that year with Kyrie gone.
    Everyone hated LeBron in 2010-2011 after The Decision, so that’s why they gave it to DRose. Then the whole, let’s not give him 3 straight MVPs to put him next to Bird because MJ, Giannis, and Jokic got that too. Why is the media so concerned preventing players from doing something Bird did from 1984-1986? 😂 If they deserve it, they deserve it.
    I think Gilbert Arenas makes a point that Jokic didn’t deserve MVP in 2021 and 2022. He didn’t have Murray by March 2021 but his team wasn’t great. Jokic deserved it in 2023 and arguably this year of 2024 since OKC and Denver are tied in records. In 2021, it was a shorter season and Nuggets went 47-25 as a 3rd seed. Got bounced by Phoenix. Remember, Suns in 4? That should’ve went to Giannis who won a ring that year but they didn’t want to give him 3 straight. Then in 2022, Nuggets went 48-34 as a *6th* seed. That should’ve went to Steph or even CP3 or Booker. The Suns won 64 that year. Warriors bounced the Nuggets (without Murray) in 5.
    Now that Jokic has won 3 MVPs, I think there will be voters fatigue because they stopped giving more MVPs to LeBron after 2013 after he won his 4th. Can’t win his 5th to put him next to MJ. But then MJ deserved more than 5 MVPs he won. He deserved at least 7-8. Bulls went 69-13 in 1997 and MVP still went to Karl. Voters are afraid putting certain players in the same breath as other players. Like you can’t give Giannis a third straight MVP because he will be next to Larry Bird. Doesn’t make sense.
    SGA can win MVP next year. I think it’s between him, Ant, and Luka for next year. Voters are already tired giving MVPs to Giannis and Jokic. And already gave an MVP to Embiid out of pity to prevent Jokic winning 3 straight. So it’s going to be Ant vs. SGA for next year. We may get their playoff showdown in this year’s WCF.
    Anthony Edwards vs. Shai Gilgeous Alexander is like Michael Jordan vs. Michael Jordan. People don’t realize it, but Shai does play like MJ. He’s very clutch. He never plays out of control. He doesn’t shoot a lot of threes but he’s very efficient. SGA does a lot of his damage from the midrange. I say SGA is closer to 90s Jordan but early 90s MJ because MJ was skinnier. Ant is closer to late 80s MJ. The 80s MJ wanted to posterize everyone.
    I love Shai. My heart sank when my Clippers were forced to trade him because Kawhi gave us that ultimatum. I’m still haunted by that trade. But if OKC and Minny do face off in the WCF, I will be rooting for Ant. He’s the more exciting player to watch while Shai is more calm and stable. Ant is the most exciting player since the days of young MJ, young Kobe, Vinsanity (1999-2001), and young DWade.
    I got Minnesota in 6 over OKC. KAT is already 28. Gobert is 31. Kyle Anderson is 30. Conley is 36. Other than Ant at 22, McDaniels at 23, and Naz Reid at 24, Minny is not that young. They’re at the prime age to win it all. They have the experience and SIZE to defeat OKC in the WCF. I love you, Shai, but I’m going with ANT-MAN. Perhaps my favorite player since Michael Jordan. Let’s not forget DWade was willing to let LeBron take over his team. MJ would never let another star take over his team.
    Daddy MJ
    Uncle Kobe (little brother)
    Nephew DWade
    Son/Nephew Ant
    The great lineage of Michael Jordan and the clones he helped spawn. Kawhi is Michael’s injured nephew.

  • @JakeKoenig
    @JakeKoenig 28 днів тому +1

    SGA was on the Thunder for three years in a row that they didn't make the playoffs, yet he's getting ALL the credit for OKC being the #1 seed this year. "Nobody expected them to be here!" Yeah, because SGA never got them there before.
    This year was the first for Chet Holmgren, and they get an improved season from Jalen Williams, and they make a huge improvement. So how is that credited to SGA? His stats are almost identical to last season when they went 42-40. OKC's team record improvement was due to the other guys, not Shai.
    It's ridiculous that SGA's failure to make the playoffs three years in a row is being spun into the reason why he's MVP this year, because "nobody expected OKC to be this good." And Jokic getting his team into the playoffs every year and finally winning a title is being used against him because "everyone expected Denver to be good." I see what you're doing, Jokic haters.

  • @therearenofactsonlyinterpr3780
    @therearenofactsonlyinterpr3780 Місяць тому +4

    Switch team scenario
    Jokic to Thunder, SGA to Nuggets
    Jokic will make Thunder have more wins, maybe challenging Celtics for most wins in the NBA
    SGA will be lucky if he can make it to the playoff with Nuggets...

    • @SPACEKNOCKERZ76
      @SPACEKNOCKERZ76 Місяць тому +1

      Lmao

    • @butterschunkmcdonalds5333
      @butterschunkmcdonalds5333 Місяць тому

      Stop it bro. SGA has chemistry with his teammates, Just like Joker has chemistry with HIS teammates, Neither guy would mesh nearly as well with the other team bro, But take into account the Nuggets were already the favorites in the western conference, The Thunder were 10th seed last year, And NOBODY thought they would be at the level they're at, That's because SGA developed such great chemistry within him teammates, And he took that leader role VERY seriously, His squad connected with him, And it brought the absolute best out of all those young guys. Jokic is the better player don't get me wrong, He's the best player in the league, But your crazy if you think he would have connected with all those rookies the way Shai did. OKC played like a group of actual close friends bringing the best out of eachother, And Shai while still young himself was like the older brother, And while more mature is still having fun right there with them. That def wouldn't be the vibe if Joker was there lol plus Shai-JDub-Chet stylistically just works better than JDub-Chet-Joker.

  • @AidanXavier988
    @AidanXavier988 Місяць тому

    Preach Andraya!!

  • @the_one_w_brains
    @the_one_w_brains Місяць тому +2

    Mvp award used to have voter fatigue so that it could be distributed to top talent through years

  • @ninjaBeEpic
    @ninjaBeEpic Місяць тому +2

    They should announce the winners at the END OF SEASON. Not 2nd Round of playoffs.

  • @tigerhoods7927
    @tigerhoods7927 Місяць тому +19

    I’m not mad at the results either jokic or sga deserve mvp

    • @DynoGreen313
      @DynoGreen313 Місяць тому +4

      but sga got almost NO VOTES ...how is that possible?

    • @Itz_Crawfish
      @Itz_Crawfish Місяць тому

      True

    • @mathewdavis2427
      @mathewdavis2427 Місяць тому +3

      Luka was easily the best player this season

    • @DynoGreen313
      @DynoGreen313 Місяць тому

      @@mathewdavis2427 his team didnt win enough and he plays w/ one of the greatest of all time kyrie irving
      sga had no one like that on his team and they STILL won more games
      stop it

    • @mathewdavis2427
      @mathewdavis2427 Місяць тому +4

      @@DynoGreen313 Kyrie was injured for much of the season (many Dallas players missed substantial time with injuries) and SGA's overall team is far superior (and they've been extremely healthy). You stop it

  • @cyber6sapien
    @cyber6sapien Місяць тому +1

    SGA averaged 31ppg on 51% shooting _last_ season. And OKC won 40 games and missed the playoffs.
    The difference is that OKC got Chet Holmgren this season and Jalen Williams took a leap offensively .

  • @anirudhranjan2934
    @anirudhranjan2934 Місяць тому +1

    "Second Youngest team", "2nd among guards". What are these arguments? Should only guards and young guys get MVPs?

  • @AlexLopez-gw5il
    @AlexLopez-gw5il Місяць тому +1

    Call it the triple double award already please and be done with it

  • @sabman3321
    @sabman3321 Місяць тому +2

    Jokic is a deserving MVP, but they always change the narrative to fit who they want to give the MVP. The media are spin masters. If it was in the cards to give it to SGA, they'd spin it and change the criteria. Also, if we're purely using analytics then guards will always have a disadvantage against big men. (Watch them spin a new narrative when they want to give it to a guard).

  • @carranza979
    @carranza979 Місяць тому +2

    This award does not mean nothing when you have so many randoms voting

  • @joca1311
    @joca1311 Місяць тому

    Why not finally create a rating system, it would be much more realistic to vote for the MVP. For example: number of hits 10% impact, shooting percentage 10%, 3p 10%, free throw percentage,... impact on the team 20%, team position at the end of the season 20%...etc. Eliminate voter subjectivity as much as possible.

  • @nickcoljohnvillaera7937
    @nickcoljohnvillaera7937 Місяць тому

    Congrats..Jokic .❤❤❤❤❤

  • @Ohtani9999
    @Ohtani9999 Місяць тому +1

    How come the lady got to vote in her second year with espn while Shaq, Kenny and chuck are still not a voter 😅

    • @CheekoLFreako
      @CheekoLFreako 27 днів тому

      Why is anyone in the media voting? Should be players, Coaching staff, and Gm’s voting only

  • @Killerqueen2000
    @Killerqueen2000 Місяць тому +6

    Sga was better at what scoring? What else though

    • @bobbymeade2099
      @bobbymeade2099 Місяць тому +1

      Perimeter defense. Jokic is still MVP, imo.

    • @heirrose1606
      @heirrose1606 Місяць тому

      Defense & clutch time performance. SGA the Real MVP this season even if Jokic is better overall. Jokic lost the #1 seed choking vs rookie Wemby looking like a turnstile on defense that game giving up so many layups in a 1pt game & has been playing most of his minutes with the same veteran starters for years, which explains his on/off numbers. SGA made NBA history getting the #1 seed while playing 4 fewer games than Jokic. SGA 55-20 w/ NBA Babies while Jokic 55-24 w/ his same squad he's had for years. Denver 2-1 without Jokic, OKC 2-5 without SGA. OKC got More for Less, aka Value, from SGA than Denver from Jokic the consensus best player on the planet. The Future will look back on this season and think NBA voters were ignorant af not to give SGA the MVP for this season with such an inexperienced team. I love Jokic but SGA earned the MVP this season while voters swallowed Jokic's stats and soiled themselves voting for his #2 seed performance & from their guilt of voting for Embiid the previous season.

  • @manuelmars9782
    @manuelmars9782 Місяць тому +1

    Coming into the season who knew that okc was going to be in the playoffs not the playin not to even talk about them winning the rest ? This was spearheaded by SGA so to me the one that has the most wins deserves the MVP award 🥇

  • @mikeg8165
    @mikeg8165 Місяць тому +2

    Debating who is MVP after MVP is announced is cringe

  • @DMeloMan
    @DMeloMan Місяць тому +3

    The last two MVP awards were makeups for the previous year. Last year, they gave it to Embiid because everyone felt like he should have won it the year before. This year, they gave it to Jokic because they feel he should have won it last year since he got the chip. So next year will go to SGA, and they'll make it up to the other guy the following year.

    • @SPACEKNOCKERZ76
      @SPACEKNOCKERZ76 Місяць тому +3

      Joel balled out down the stretch and jokic slipped lol Joel was on fire after the all star break lol he earned it. No matter the narrative.

  • @ambrosesauer1654
    @ambrosesauer1654 Місяць тому +15

    A lot of people didn’t even have the Thunder making the playoffs before the season started. We all knew Denver was the team to beat. Imo what Shai did was way more impressive.

    • @johnbarkley925
      @johnbarkley925 Місяць тому +8

      I disagree. Shai was a similar player in the previous season with similar 30 point production and his team finished 10th in the West. It is the impact of Chet primarily (also J Dub becoming a top 35 player that transformed the Thunder into a contender.

    • @semkn9555
      @semkn9555 Місяць тому

      Nuggets are the team to beat because of jokic. Okc without sga is still a super deep and pretty good team

    • @AkagiRedSun
      @AkagiRedSun Місяць тому +4

      Thunders are stacked, Denver without Jokic will crumble to lottery team

    • @Kxng_Omar90
      @Kxng_Omar90 Місяць тому

      By a 100 mile

    • @modoki666
      @modoki666 Місяць тому

      Lol that's because of Chet mostly
      Last year they were 10th without him

  • @Smiththebat
    @Smiththebat Місяць тому

    I dunno… I think I’m on the SGA train. I also appreciate Greeny’s point about the not wanting to put Jokic in MJ and Lebron company. You can’t be voting that way.

  • @petrov3190
    @petrov3190 Місяць тому

    Jokic is having a lot of haters now, because he's still playing, but once he retires I'm sure everyone will appreciate him and what he achieved, except Shaq.

  • @KonradBeezo
    @KonradBeezo 28 днів тому

    Isn’t the Denver teamand OKC team the same age?

  • @gothamcityarcade
    @gothamcityarcade Місяць тому

    Jordan's individual accolades include six NBA Finals Most Valuable Player (MVP) awards, ten NBA scoring titles (both all-time records), five NBA MVP awards, ten All-NBA First Team designations, nine All-Defensive First Team honors, fourteen NBA All-Star Game selections, three NBA All-Star Game MVP awards, three NBA ...

  • @ShaneDouglas713
    @ShaneDouglas713 Місяць тому +18

    SGA deserved it more, he put in massive amounts work to get the Thunder where they are...

    • @cameronbolden5064
      @cameronbolden5064 Місяць тому +2

      they both had the same record

    • @ShaneDouglas713
      @ShaneDouglas713 Місяць тому +3

      @@cameronbolden5064 Thunder went from worst to 1st so that should have been a deciding factor

    • @thesix4176
      @thesix4176 Місяць тому +2

      It's more so JW becoming All Star level and having Chet playing than SGA. SGA has been playing like this since previous seasons.

    • @modoki666
      @modoki666 Місяць тому +2

      Lol so why OKC was 10th last year when Chet was injured all year ?
      Chet and others (Dort.. Williams) improving is the mean reason

    • @isrealdeshield7906
      @isrealdeshield7906 Місяць тому +1

      ​@cameronbolden5064 same record don't mean nothing. He carry that team in the west of all place. With young players. He should have been MVP

  • @TreeHouse2024_
    @TreeHouse2024_ Місяць тому +18

    SGA did have a case tho ngl

    • @kohta20
      @kohta20 Місяць тому +1

      Thats why he came 2nd! people are acting like he didn’t get a vote!

  • @stephanontario1027
    @stephanontario1027 Місяць тому +2

    SGA had a better season and deserves it this year.

  • @032HULK
    @032HULK Місяць тому

    Jokic dont have Jamal 30 games,why Nobody mentioning that?

  • @ricanthony13
    @ricanthony13 Місяць тому

    If anything, there should be an outrage because of the luka disrespect

  • @CoachRJ334
    @CoachRJ334 Місяць тому

    He cares about his horses he doesn't care about an MVP 🎯

    • @SPACEKNOCKERZ76
      @SPACEKNOCKERZ76 Місяць тому +2

      He about to see them soon unless he starts playing defense

    • @CoachRJ334
      @CoachRJ334 Місяць тому

      @@SPACEKNOCKERZ76 😂😂😂

  • @snakebreezy5573
    @snakebreezy5573 Місяць тому

    so j will didn't go on first take and lied saying he pick sga???

  • @modoki666
    @modoki666 Місяць тому

    Whoever says SGA is an hypocrite or avoids the fact that last year OKC was 10th because... Holmgren was missing !
    So SGA isn't that much a mvp
    Jokic manage to get a 6th seed without MPJ and Murray in 2021-2022

  • @maduonuoha2410
    @maduonuoha2410 Місяць тому +3

    Who else has noticed that Chiney wears this dress a lot😂😂😂😂😂

  • @js1241
    @js1241 Місяць тому +2

    Sga plays elite on both sides of the ball, his team is a top 3 seat .. eye test or numbers - Sga deserved the mvp or at the very least more first place votes than 15

  • @cameronbolden5064
    @cameronbolden5064 Місяць тому

    Shai is a PG i noticed they didn't put his assist ranking up there.

  • @pkz2025
    @pkz2025 Місяць тому +1

    subjective .... bruh okc is still winning games without shai so who is the mvp again?

  • @hipking23
    @hipking23 Місяць тому +1

    I'm going to use this metaphor regarding Nikola jokic. He is like the Sun ☀ and his teammates are like the planets. Remove the sun and the planets will fall into chaos.

    • @heirrose1606
      @heirrose1606 Місяць тому

      Same with SGA, except SGA took NBA Babies, the youngest team in NBA history to get the #1 seed while Jokic played with his same teams of veteran champions he's had for years and choked vs rookie Wemby with the #1 seed on the line end of season, giving up so many layups that game. Jokic 55-24, SGA 55-20. OKC got More for Less, aka Value, from SGA than Denver got with those shiny stats from Jokic.

    • @lil_truth
      @lil_truth Місяць тому

      @@heirrose1606getting a #1 seed means nothing, nobody talks about Kobe or Dwayne wade getting the first seed. You only say that about players who have nothing they have accomplished.

    • @heirrose1606
      @heirrose1606 Місяць тому

      @@lil_truth SGA led the youngest team EVER to the 1 seed. Making history doing something that has never been done, not by Kobe or Wade, does mean something, especially in the most competitive West standings ever by records. That's 2 All-Time reasons why the 1 seed meant more this season.

  • @edemehtawardhana5962
    @edemehtawardhana5962 Місяць тому +4

    Anthony Edwards: "I took that personally, wait for the next year!"

  • @jpjmk
    @jpjmk Місяць тому

    If I was playing pickup, I’m taking Jokic first before Shai. Sees the game better than anyone since LeBron. Both can be unstoppable but Joker’s just a step above Shai

  • @e7anp
    @e7anp Місяць тому +3

    Actually, Jokic should be winning 3 straight MVPs and Shai should win it this year.

  • @nedu_josh
    @nedu_josh Місяць тому

    He’s not even happy in the picture displayed 🤣🤣🤣

  • @ShutThePuck
    @ShutThePuck Місяць тому +1

    The LeMedia are insane, they erased my man's first MVP just to make this comparison seem fairer 😂😂

  • @jesse.bmatthews9120
    @jesse.bmatthews9120 Місяць тому

    yes he has a case but of course , they gonna give it to a more well known player in the league on the Denver nuggets team maybe next year , other teams might have a chance to win mvp and other awards, how did Luka not be in second place mind blogging

  • @benholmquist3589
    @benholmquist3589 Місяць тому

    Chiney is ascending

  • @Itiswhatitis2024
    @Itiswhatitis2024 Місяць тому +1

    Joker is nowhere near them guys, we know why he got it… dude is basic asf without Jamal & Porter

    • @AbdullahFarhanLife
      @AbdullahFarhanLife Місяць тому +1

      Didn't know ur suppose to play with 3 players on the court only

  • @JadensWisdom
    @JadensWisdom Місяць тому +1

    You guys forgetting Luka is a disrespect I have been failing to understand this whole season

    • @Davidstone568
      @Davidstone568 Місяць тому

      Remember...a luka team has to win😮😮😮. So the nba invented an award for losing team steph 😂😂😂

    • @zoranmarkovic1123
      @zoranmarkovic1123 Місяць тому

      ​@@Davidstone568Hypocrites

  • @jamiesebastian7694
    @jamiesebastian7694 Місяць тому +1

    Should have been Luka

  • @Joshua-xg7pg
    @Joshua-xg7pg Місяць тому

    Lol the way they spesk youd thunk he led the league in scoring

  • @dylusional419
    @dylusional419 Місяць тому

    Now show Shai's reaction

  • @kennethjones7129
    @kennethjones7129 Місяць тому

    SGA keeps getting disrespected 😮

  • @user-hh1up5zj1q
    @user-hh1up5zj1q Місяць тому +2

    اخي باقي رحمه وشفقه اختك في حال ميعلم به الا الله وًّالَلَهَ الَعَظَيَمَ مَا كتَبَتَ هَذا الَمَنَاشَدَهَ غَيَرَ مَنَ الَضَيَقَ وّالَفَقَر يَاعَالَمَ حَسَوّا فَيَنَا ارَجَوّكمَ وّالَلَهَ الَعَظَيَمَ رَبَ الَعَرَشَ الَعَظَيَمَ انَه الَاكلَ مَا فَيَ عَنَدَيَ بَالَبَيَتَ وًّالَلَهَ يَا اخَوّانَيَ انَهَ اخَوًّنَيَ بَقَعَدَوًّ بَالَيَوًّمَيَنَ مَافَى اكلَ وًّالَلَهَ وًّضَعَنَا كثَيَرَ صَعَبَ نَحَنَ ٦ نَفَرَ دَاخَلَ الَبَيَتَ وًّابَيَ مَتَوًّفَيَ وًّلَا يَوًّجَدَ مَنَ يَعَوًّلَ عَلَيَنَا وًّسَاكنَيَنَ فَيَ بَيَتَ اجَارَ لَانَسَتَطَيَعَ دَفَعَ الَاجَارَ الَلَيَ بَاقَيَ عَلَيَنَا انَيَ دخلة على الله ثمَّ عليكِ اني في وجه الله ثم في وجهك اني اترجاك اتوسل اليك تساعدني لوجه الله. الله يَأْخي منَ الصَبَاحُ حُتا الان يَحُرّم علينا الاكل غير الماء اني اقسم بالله العلي العظيم على كتاب الله اني بنت يتيمه من ومعي اخوان صغار اقسم بالله على كتاب الله ان اخوتي ماعاد يقدرو ينطقو بكلمة من شدت الجوع وبيتنا ايجار وصاحب البيت مقدر ضروفنا يريد الإجار او بيخرجنا إلى الشارع و اني اسالك بالله وانشدك بمحمد رسول الله يا اخي لوانت مسلم وتحب الخير انك تساعدني بقدر استطاعتك هذارقمنا لمن اراد فعل الخير00967.735964727 وايعوضك الله بكل خير فيااخي انت رجال إذا شفت اسرتك جاوعين تعمل المستحيل من اجل تامن لهم الاكل ولكن انابنت عيني بصيره ويدي قصيره ليس لي اب مثلك يسمح دمعتى ويحمينى من الذل والاهانة واخواني سغار ساعدنا انقذنا قبل أن يطردونا في الشارع نتبهدل او نموت من الجوع انا اقسم بالله الذي رفع سبع سموات بلا عمد وبسط الارض ومهداني لااكذب عليك بحرف من هذا الرساله واني ماطلبتك إلى من ضيق وقسوت الضروف والحال الذي احنافيه واني وأسرتي نسالك بالله لولك مقدره الامساعدتناانك ترسلي واتساب هذا رقمي 00967.735964727 وتطلب اسمي الكامل في البطاقه وتحولنا عليه ولتاخر علينا احنا في اشد الحاجة والضروف القاسيه جزاك الله خير الجزا..،.،.،.،;":'%''%&":';":💔:&&♡@✓[]]}✓\]>✓}♕✓[{✓♕{[]✓>}]>]✓}>✓]>}\×{}{•×\×\{•{×\{{×\•{•×\\{>×{•>ו{{}×>>{}×😮

  • @ashokathegreat4534
    @ashokathegreat4534 Місяць тому

    How can this guy be MVP again. I get it he gives good passes and is a good all rounder, but it’s a disgrace to real MVP contenders

  • @bboohhmmaann
    @bboohhmmaann Місяць тому

    Jokic percentage is higher because he plays closer to the basket...thats a straw man argument

  • @jtrix34
    @jtrix34 Місяць тому

    Luka, SGA, and Ant will get mvp.

  • @w00deey12
    @w00deey12 Місяць тому

    Thunder failed to even make the playoffs without Chet.

  • @jrod132
    @jrod132 Місяць тому +2

    Jokic should’ve been the MVP in 2023. Luka is the real MVP in 2024. I think Jokic right now is like “cool I don’t care I’m down 0-2”. Andraya is mad because SGA didn’t win lmaooooo

  • @nedu_josh
    @nedu_josh Місяць тому +2

    SGA is the mvp
    Stop it, delusional voters.

    • @zap7759
      @zap7759 Місяць тому +1

      They had to make up for Embiid last year. It's pathetic.

  • @cowbaby
    @cowbaby Місяць тому

    They chose the right people to vote on this. The people that wanted sga were wrong. 8 times? Jordan only won 6 chps. This crew is just full of "fan" knowledge. Where is the basketball expertise? Not on this show.

  • @lht2007
    @lht2007 Місяць тому

    Why are they not talking about last year MVP? Jokic got robbed from Embiid.

  • @stylore
    @stylore Місяць тому

    Well Mike surre didnt like it when Karl Malone won MVP, so he took it personal.

  • @adingdingdiiing6740
    @adingdingdiiing6740 Місяць тому

    FG% being used as the main criteria to justify this award is just soooo ridiculously bad. I mean that's it? Yeah because im the the statistical categories that matter, he wasn't first.

  • @efthymis
    @efthymis Місяць тому

    Regarding this award, just a reminder that Giannis didn't win the MVP of the year when he became an NBA champion.
    --> Giannis Antetokounmpo this season, a RECORD season:
    30.4 PPG
    11.5 RPG
    6.5 APG
    61.1 FG%
    The FIRST player in NBA history to average 30/10/5 on 60+ FG%.
    He only received 1 first place MVP vote.
    Giannis is the first player in NBA history to average 30, 11 and 5 in a season (2023/2024) on 60% from the field ( the best record in the ENTIRE LEAGUE this year).
    Again, he only received ONE 1! first place MVP vote.
    Also, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander is the first player since 1967 to average 30+ PPG on the number one seed in the West and NOT win MVP.

    • @shawnjames1107
      @shawnjames1107 Місяць тому

      Jokic impact on winning is better. Advanced stats indicate that by almost double when SGA and Jok on and off tbe court. Jok has 0 All stars all these years nor all defense players

  • @__-fn7nx
    @__-fn7nx Місяць тому +2

    SGA has been robbed

  • @moereese5254
    @moereese5254 Місяць тому

    The MVP is about to get swept.

  • @biggiemanman
    @biggiemanman Місяць тому +8

    They give the mvp to anybody now a days

    • @juliusrandle2733
      @juliusrandle2733 Місяць тому +8

      If that was true jokic wouldn't have won genius 🤷

    • @biggiemanman
      @biggiemanman Місяць тому

      @@juliusrandle2733 that's exactly why jokic won 😂

    • @shawnjames1107
      @shawnjames1107 Місяць тому +1

      ⁠@@biggiemanman Jokic who most agree is best player in nba

  • @heirrose1606
    @heirrose1606 Місяць тому +3

    SGA the Real MVP this season even if Jokic is better overall. Jokic lost the #1 seed choking vs rookie Wemby looking like a turnstile on defense that game giving up so many layups in a 1pt game & has been playing most of his minutes with the same veteran starters for years, which explains his on/off numbers. SGA made NBA history getting the #1 seed while playing 4 fewer games than Jokic. SGA 55-20 w/ NBA Babies while Jokic 55-24 w/ his same squad he's had for years. Denver 2-1 without Jokic, OKC 2-5 without SGA. OKC got More for Less, aka Value, from SGA than Denver from Jokic the consensus best player on the planet. The Future will look back on this season and think NBA voters were ignorant af not to give SGA the MVP for this season with such an inexperienced team. I love Jokic but SGA earned the MVP this season while voters swallowed Jokic's stats and soiled themselves voting for his #2 seed performance & from their guilt of voting for Embiid the previous season.

    • @S3NTINEL2001
      @S3NTINEL2001 Місяць тому +3

      they had the same record......

    • @heirrose1606
      @heirrose1606 Місяць тому +1

      @@S3NTINEL2001 OKC 3-1 vs Denver this season. THAT is why they're the #1 seed. Jokic 55-24, SGA 55-20. Denver 2-1 wihtout Jokic, OKC 2-5 without SGA. OKC got More for Less, aka Value, from SGA.

  • @m3xic4n91
    @m3xic4n91 Місяць тому

    MJ has 5 MVPs!!!

  • @aaronace720
    @aaronace720 Місяць тому

    caitlin clark has manly features, i think thats why im attracted to her

  • @brianwilson9728
    @brianwilson9728 Місяць тому

    Na Luka should of won that. He has a while team on his back next to Kyrie..

  • @jeremy1399
    @jeremy1399 Місяць тому +6

    NBA MVP is the lamest and most flimsy award in sports. No one cares anymore and players shouldn’t care. Let’s get Jokic 7 MVPs so he’s clearly better than Jordan 🤣

  • @ogroddy8811
    @ogroddy8811 Місяць тому

    Anthony Edwards Son

  • @AdrianbCozad
    @AdrianbCozad Місяць тому

    How stupid,if Dallas loses and Thunder wins,why is it all about LABRON,JORDAN,KD,HARDEN,Leonard,etc,when there's the whole team left out..lol,The Thunder has a WHOLE team of younger NBA Stars! Sports analyst worshiping a few stars sitting at home watching a unexperienced team in the playoffs.😅

  • @realamerican8069
    @realamerican8069 Місяць тому

    How are those losers able to vote for MVP? It should be former players/ current players and fans! Reporters are just talking heads with 0 knowledge about sports.. the reporters who know sports for some reason they don’t get to vote for MVP.. I wonder why

    • @sguerilla6142
      @sguerilla6142 Місяць тому

      Stephen A. Myth and perk voted for SGA... Both are winners.

  • @zap7759
    @zap7759 Місяць тому

    Voter had to make up for Embiid last year. It's pathetic.

  • @JamesMckenzie-qm2gp
    @JamesMckenzie-qm2gp Місяць тому +1

    10th seed to 1seed , Shai drops mic and slams door on any argument! #robbed !

    • @Pohi
      @Pohi Місяць тому

      Yeah, and last year he had very similar numbers to this year. But what else was different this year then? Oh maybe Chet playing this year and J-Dub elevating his game?

  • @mikeallen5907
    @mikeallen5907 Місяць тому

    We had better players in the 80s and 90s. James worty was just as good as Michael Jordan .

  • @nedu_josh
    @nedu_josh Місяць тому

    But you guys kill westbrook for averaging a triple double
    DELUSIONAL!!!!

    • @shawnjames1107
      @shawnjames1107 Місяць тому

      West shot .425 while jok shoots like .600

  • @GIE79
    @GIE79 Місяць тому

    MVP to the wrong Guy❗️❗️

  • @charlesbuckley5615
    @charlesbuckley5615 Місяць тому +3

    SGA's team had a better record but he's not MVP?

    • @SpruceMoose304
      @SpruceMoose304 Місяць тому +2

      lol, they have the same win-loss record. its not hard to check.

  • @Dessaline57
    @Dessaline57 Місяць тому

    No with out Murray Denver has no closer .

  • @ryandixon6593
    @ryandixon6593 Місяць тому +2

    But weres jokic D ? That Man be playinh kick ball Yall the reason why are league is water down SGA doing it both sides of the floor smh what a microwave panel 🤦

  • @prophecy0731
    @prophecy0731 Місяць тому

    I can't wait for him to get swept by the real mvp.

  • @Ron_mucks
    @Ron_mucks Місяць тому +3

    Shai got robbed

    • @owenmokganedi8405
      @owenmokganedi8405 Місяць тому +1

      He has more votes than luka....dude should be third...they tried

    • @realamerican8069
      @realamerican8069 Місяць тому

      @@owenmokganedi8405Shai is leagues above Luka! Kyrie is carrying the Mavs

  • @addiebrook2517
    @addiebrook2517 Місяць тому +1

    Luka or Shai should've won this one. Jokic is quite overrated.

  • @onidtubes
    @onidtubes Місяць тому

    Why start at 1990? So it would appear Lebron has the same amount of MVP's as Jordan? lol

  • @nigelhinds7356
    @nigelhinds7356 Місяць тому +1

    Sga was robbed