I wasn’t exactly team Jacob, because I liked Edward too and she clearly loved him more, but when I was 11 and first read it I loved New Moon, because of the part in which they fix the bikes and chat and Bella slowly seems to heal. And I loved Jacob for it, for being so sweet and warm and dependable. I guess I was also having a bit of a bad period and I felt really lonely, so the idea of being seen and understood and loved like that felt good. All of this of course, through the eyes of an 11 years old; now I know they’re all bad o.O
I think another point that should be made ab Bella’s attraction to Edward and why she was willing to give everything up for him was her blatant disregard for her own life & needs before she met him (going back to ur twilight analysis) but what I really wanna talk about is her sudden desire for immortality.. can’t wait to watch the rest of these video essays and see what you have to say ab that
The brainwashing 🤣. Also Jacob is so complicated. I remember when the books came out the, split from team Edward vs. team Jacob reminded me a lot of the Harry Potter schools. I never had the chance to connect with people about either Twilight or Harry Potter, because I didn’t read as a kid due to a learning disability. I’m glad i was able to enjoy them as an adult.
Ooh this is a really interesting comparison!! You’re so right that it’s almost clubs, like the houses from Harry Potter, I never thought of it like that!! I’m glad you’ve been able to enjoy them too!!
In the books, I was 100% team Edward, but I had the hugest crush on Taylor Lautner so I was team Jacob when it came to the movies 😂 Because the movie team was fully based on looks, I consider myself an Edward girlie to my core
i never liked Edward or Jacob. I thought they were both ab*sive characters that were terrible role models for little girls to fall for that had to come out of some backwards Mormon ideas of family, and continued to show the standard Mormon love to make up native american history for their own benefit with no concern for the tribes being lied about. Like Edwards controlling behavior that ignores Bella's autonomy creeped me out, or what bland character he came across as with little to no personality outside of "protecc Bella". The way Jacob didn't value Bella's autonomy either so much that he forced a kiss on her is just straight up assault from my perspective, and also ruined Charlie for me, one of the only characters I liked before that point because he supported Jacob assaulting her. Also telling her he'd basically try to unalive himself was super emotionally manipulative. Like if a partner tells you they're going to unalive themselves if you don't do something for them, massive red flag. Everything about the whole series hit so many red flags for me in a way no YA novel has ever done where I just felt icky the more I read, and lost the more popular it became cause it made me believe I was a weirdo to feel this negative way about what I'm reading when everyone else seemed to react so positively. I thought maybe I just could never relate to kids my age cause they couldn't see what to me was very toxic behavior. I used to say I was team Victoria back then since at least the story wasn't trying to cover up or excuse her toxic behavior like with the love interests.
The brainwashing got me wheezing, it was so funny. I'm neither team Jacob nor team Edward. I'm team Edythe first and always ❤ I also did the survey and you asked about the Meyer Griggs?? thing and my dumb ass didn't know what that is and I thought 'wait is this the gay scale thing' and i just wrote '10' so apparently I have personality 10💅
A thought I've always had when watching the movies and reading the books for the first time, and ESPECIALLY when hearing Jacob being a stubborn ass and listing the reasons why Bella should be with him instead, is that we knew from the third book that the wolves could imprint, and that it was fairly common (several in the tribe had already imprinted), and we knew Jacob hadn't imprinted on Bella, and we hadn't gotten to the last book yet when Jacob imprints on Renesmee. This means if Bella had chosen Jacob, and he, a year or two later imprinted on someone else, he would've dumped her so fast. That was my biggest reason for not being team Jacob when I read the books, because I thought it would make their relationship too uncertain, especially when knowing the Sam-Leah-Emily issue. I got kind of annoyed that none of them ever brought up that hypothetical risk of him possibly imprinting on someone else while being in a relationship with Bella...
tbh I was never really team anyone (I don't remember discussing twilight as a kid with anyone but my vampire obsessed friend who introduced them to me), but I did love Jacob in New Moon. I knew that it was all set up for Bella to go back to Edward, but her relationship with Jake seemed more appealing and cozier to me. If I was in that position I would have picked Jacob lol but obviously Bella is too obsessed. I remember also feeling like Smeyer did a bit of character assassination in the third book when Jake starts being a jerk... basically everything arie said, although I don't remember ever thinking jacob actually had a chance
Love for you to explore the dynamics of jacob and reneesme. This is a girl forced to be with jacob though she will outlive him. She is not allowed to explore any other relationship because im sure jacob would kill them. Jacob is also entangled with her because their thing that attaches them wont allow him to be with another woman.
This is such a fun video from you, I can't believe i watched it in one sitting, i need to go outside... I used to be team Jacob, becuase i really enjoyed their friendship, and i liked that their time together was more fun than intense like with Edward. But idk now, both of them are kinda wet rags.
the way this whole series is making me feel soooo foolish bc the only reason i was Team Jacob was SOLELY because he was a werewolf and i’ve always had an obsession with werewolves……
well part of the reason I liked jacob is that he had long dark hair which was way cuter than whatever copper short hair edward had going on, so team jacob because of liking werewolves is totally legit
LOVED the video. i read the books when i was in maybe 4th or 5th grade and i remember at that time the conversations i was having with my fellow 10 year olds about it were just so shallow. team jacob just meant team guy with abs and so i was team edward to spite those normies. and to be fair most of them had probably only seen the movies.
I love this 😂😂 tbh I’m surprised I wasn’t team guy with abs back then!! I’ve always thought them making Edward look like he was in pain kissing Bella kind of ruined the romance of the movie for me and I always thought the Jake stuff was better there!! My original theory was that Jake fans were the movie fans but that fell apart upon investigation so idk 🤷🏻♀️
I think both guys are toxic and stupid...but I enjoy reading them anyway. I will not let my daughter read them until she's old enough to see the problems instead of romaticizing it.
I wasn’t exactly team Jacob, because I liked Edward too and she clearly loved him more, but when I was 11 and first read it I loved New Moon, because of the part in which they fix the bikes and chat and Bella slowly seems to heal. And I loved Jacob for it, for being so sweet and warm and dependable. I guess I was also having a bit of a bad period and I felt really lonely, so the idea of being seen and understood and loved like that felt good. All of this of course, through the eyes of an 11 years old; now I know they’re all bad o.O
I could totally see that!! Back then I was so angry people even considered him an option I hated him on principle 😭
Exactly! funny that I remember even then being like "but what are we doing in this book, we all know she'll end up with Edward anyway"
not the jacob mk ultra experiment
I think another point that should be made ab Bella’s attraction to Edward and why she was willing to give everything up for him was her blatant disregard for her own life & needs before she met him (going back to ur twilight analysis) but what I really wanna talk about is her sudden desire for immortality.. can’t wait to watch the rest of these video essays and see what you have to say ab that
The brainwashing 🤣. Also Jacob is so complicated. I remember when the books came out the, split from team Edward vs. team Jacob reminded me a lot of the Harry Potter schools. I never had the chance to connect with people about either Twilight or Harry Potter, because I didn’t read as a kid due to a learning disability. I’m glad i was able to enjoy them as an adult.
Ooh this is a really interesting comparison!! You’re so right that it’s almost clubs, like the houses from Harry Potter, I never thought of it like that!! I’m glad you’ve been able to enjoy them too!!
Here to represent all the Team Jacob Girlies ❤️✨🥳
And making amazing points!! ❤️🥰
In the books, I was 100% team Edward, but I had the hugest crush on Taylor Lautner so I was team Jacob when it came to the movies 😂 Because the movie team was fully based on looks, I consider myself an Edward girlie to my core
AWWOOOOO (me as a werewolf screaming for Jacob) 🐺
I’m trying to think of a vampire equivalent but I can’t??? Me as a vampire screaming for Edward by uhhhh. Staying out of the sun
i never liked Edward or Jacob. I thought they were both ab*sive characters that were terrible role models for little girls to fall for that had to come out of some backwards Mormon ideas of family, and continued to show the standard Mormon love to make up native american history for their own benefit with no concern for the tribes being lied about. Like Edwards controlling behavior that ignores Bella's autonomy creeped me out, or what bland character he came across as with little to no personality outside of "protecc Bella". The way Jacob didn't value Bella's autonomy either so much that he forced a kiss on her is just straight up assault from my perspective, and also ruined Charlie for me, one of the only characters I liked before that point because he supported Jacob assaulting her. Also telling her he'd basically try to unalive himself was super emotionally manipulative. Like if a partner tells you they're going to unalive themselves if you don't do something for them, massive red flag.
Everything about the whole series hit so many red flags for me in a way no YA novel has ever done where I just felt icky the more I read, and lost the more popular it became cause it made me believe I was a weirdo to feel this negative way about what I'm reading when everyone else seemed to react so positively. I thought maybe I just could never relate to kids my age cause they couldn't see what to me was very toxic behavior. I used to say I was team Victoria back then since at least the story wasn't trying to cover up or excuse her toxic behavior like with the love interests.
Yeah those 2 guys are horrible. Charlie is a bad father.
Seriously Angela and both Clearwaters are the best characters.
The brainwashing got me wheezing, it was so funny.
I'm neither team Jacob nor team Edward. I'm team Edythe first and always ❤
I also did the survey and you asked about the Meyer Griggs?? thing and my dumb ass didn't know what that is and I thought 'wait is this the gay scale thing' and i just wrote '10' so apparently I have personality 10💅
Nice I will for SURE include that outlier in the video!!
A thought I've always had when watching the movies and reading the books for the first time, and ESPECIALLY when hearing Jacob being a stubborn ass and listing the reasons why Bella should be with him instead, is that we knew from the third book that the wolves could imprint, and that it was fairly common (several in the tribe had already imprinted), and we knew Jacob hadn't imprinted on Bella, and we hadn't gotten to the last book yet when Jacob imprints on Renesmee. This means if Bella had chosen Jacob, and he, a year or two later imprinted on someone else, he would've dumped her so fast.
That was my biggest reason for not being team Jacob when I read the books, because I thought it would make their relationship too uncertain, especially when knowing the Sam-Leah-Emily issue. I got kind of annoyed that none of them ever brought up that hypothetical risk of him possibly imprinting on someone else while being in a relationship with Bella...
This is an excellent point lol. Being team jacob at book 2 is very different from team jacob at book 3.
tbh I was never really team anyone (I don't remember discussing twilight as a kid with anyone but my vampire obsessed friend who introduced them to me), but I did love Jacob in New Moon. I knew that it was all set up for Bella to go back to Edward, but her relationship with Jake seemed more appealing and cozier to me. If I was in that position I would have picked Jacob lol but obviously Bella is too obsessed. I remember also feeling like Smeyer did a bit of character assassination in the third book when Jake starts being a jerk...
basically everything arie said, although I don't remember ever thinking jacob actually had a chance
I really wish that you'd worn the "where the hell have you been loca??" tshirt throughout the whole video 😅
I thought about it but the ending was too tempting not to do 😭😭 but maybe I’ll wear it in the next one!
the ending to this video was a cinematic masterpiece
I’m so obsessed with you. You are fr so unbelievably funny😂
Also, love your balanced options.
Love for you to explore the dynamics of jacob and reneesme. This is a girl forced to be with jacob though she will outlive him. She is not allowed to explore any other relationship because im sure jacob would kill them. Jacob is also entangled with her because their thing that attaches them wont allow him to be with another woman.
She will be groomed her entire childhood. Everyone in her life will encourage that.
This is such a fun video from you, I can't believe i watched it in one sitting, i need to go outside... I used to be team Jacob, becuase i really enjoyed their friendship, and i liked that their time together was more fun than intense like with Edward. But idk now, both of them are kinda wet rags.
Thank you!! I had so much fun making it!! I agree, there’s no clear winner for sure!!
your makeup looks STUUUUNNNING and i am absolutely loving this video!!!!
Thank you!!! Thanks for watching!!
omg i've been waiting for this vid!! the brainwashing bit was genius
Thank you 😭😭 credit Logan and Callahan, they surprised me with their ideas!!
New subscriber here, hello. The "and you did it at my birthday dinner" quote... I've never been so sure of a new subscription, thank you for that 😂😂
U said adhd, I follow. ADHD girls club united ❤
the way this whole series is making me feel soooo foolish bc the only reason i was Team Jacob was SOLELY because he was a werewolf and i’ve always had an obsession with werewolves……
Girl don’t feel stupid that’s the best reason I’ve heard!!! “I just like werewolves” is sooo valid
@@meredithnovaco ahhh okay maybe ‘foolish’ wasnt a good choice of words but still!!! thank you for validating me though 😭😭🫶🏻
well part of the reason I liked jacob is that he had long dark hair which was way cuter than whatever copper short hair edward had going on, so team jacob because of liking werewolves is totally legit
LOVED the video. i read the books when i was in maybe 4th or 5th grade and i remember at that time the conversations i was having with my fellow 10 year olds about it were just so shallow. team jacob just meant team guy with abs and so i was team edward to spite those normies. and to be fair most of them had probably only seen the movies.
I love this 😂😂 tbh I’m surprised I wasn’t team guy with abs back then!! I’ve always thought them making Edward look like he was in pain kissing Bella kind of ruined the romance of the movie for me and I always thought the Jake stuff was better there!! My original theory was that Jake fans were the movie fans but that fell apart upon investigation so idk 🤷🏻♀️
I am very much obsessed and looking forward to more in this twilight series
Instantly subscribed
Such a fun video!
Thank you!!
"her own brother" 😂
17:33 New moon takes place in 2005/2006 so Edward was 104 the start of NM
Is the delusion in the room with us? 🐺😂
I love your channel
Thank you so much!!
@@meredithnovaco omg hi you are so beautiful
I think both guys are toxic and stupid...but I enjoy reading them anyway. I will not let my daughter read them until she's old enough to see the problems instead of romaticizing it.
Same!! I enjoy them a lot but they’re not great romance heroes!!!
I really like your videos--you should make some shorts so your channel gets recommended to more people. The algorithm is very shorts-focused.
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You crack me up 😂 Bella is 💯 a communist