NJ transit would've been prepared if they actually allocated money to it instead of adding one more lane to a highway which is proven to not fix traffic.
Highway widening does fix traffic. Imagine if no highway ever got widened? Traffic would be a nightmare. The reason it “doesn’t solve traffic” is because it’s not supposed to. It’s expanded with an expanding population. Our highways haven’t actually been widened enough to solve traffic.
@f-86zoomer37 road widening always fails to solve traffic because it creates induced demand. That's why every road widening is ineffective after 6-12 months because people that wouldn't have otherwise driven there switch to that road. The only solution to traffic is alternatives to driving.
@ no. You failed to read my facts properly. Road expansions are necessary to keep up with population growth and demand. The reason it “doesn’t solve traffic” is because we don’t widen them enough. Our political leaders are entirely useless and corrupt. The interstates that feed into the city should be having 18-20 lanes at the minimum. Politicians and state leaders are waging a communist war on cars.
NJT being a hot mess isnt the MTA's fault or responsibility. New jersey chose to invest in wideing there highways into the city knowing dam well congestion pricing was coming. They could had funded NJT improvements and projects but chose not to and now even though finally work is happening its years away from being done and that is new jerseys fault not new york's!
@@cmdrls212 Last time I check this is all in the state of new york if new jersey people want to do stuff in our state better be ready to pay our prices not our fault your state designed it self to rely on us
I don't think working from NJ is the flex you think it is. You still have a NY employer which means you still pay state tax to NY. NJ is just one big commuter state, they have no leverage against NY.
Arturo Alvarez a few NJT bus lines in North Jersey, Jersey Shore ie Route 9 Lakewood-Freehold-NYC and South Jersey are already 24/7. Plus Path and PATCO. With that said, I agree at least the NJT Northeast Corridor should run 24/7.
@ agreed. Ppl would just like to atleast be able to get in and out of Jersey at all times. Even if they did a shuttle From Penn to Secaucus every 30 mins overnight
@ I think at the very least the ridership is there to run at least every 90 minutes overnight between 2-5am, a full NY/Penn Station to/from Trenton route in both directions. With shuttle train connecting with the NEC Corridor between Dover-Secaucus (Midtown Direct) and Newark Penn Station-Asbury Park as well.Sadly I don’t think the other NJT rail lines needs overnight service due to not enough ridership. Plus expand overnight service on a couple of more NYC/Midtown Port Authority bus lines to/from Jersey as well. Especially for bus routes that serves stations along the Suffern-Secaucus/Hoboken corridor.
Lower Manhattan is one of the most densely populated centers in the WORLD (not just the US). Congestion makes sense for that area. NJ leaders just didn’t prioritize transit.
What they should do then is put a toll at your front door and see how you like it when you have to pay to leave your house to go to work or to pay to go home from work so when New Jersey now is going to put the toll for New Yorkers to go into Jersey. Don’t be mad that you have to pay a toll just to go back home.
@@f-86zoomer37 The whole video is about packed trains. Lots of people take trains. Driving in dense cities like New York and Boston is crazy and crazy expensive. Take the train in, then walk or take a subway to your destination.
Forgot about NJ Transit, how about New Jersey officials invest in New Jersey itself. Northern New Jersey has 3 cites that they can made into major cities (Jersey City, Newark & Trenton) similar to cities like Philadelphia & Boston with great downtown areas where people from Jersey can work corporate jobs to hard labor jobs so they don't have to come to New York City to work.
With all due respect to 'Steve from Roselle Park', I observed a multilevel RVL train (probably one of the trains he takes) on track 5 with a number of standees though there were plenty of empty seats available, just that each available seat is next to an occupied seat. We've gotten used to having our own row since the end of lockdowns; now we're spoiled. LOL! (For the record, I'm one of the standees on the NEC; just choosing to avoid sitting next to strangers, though I could get a seat if I wanted to.)
I don’t blame you, it’s uncomfortable sitting next to someone and sometimes those people don’t want you to sit next to them. But what I don’t get is people sit from New York to Secaucus on a packed train when they stand up
Why are you not blaming the people in New York for causing this in the first place? The congestion tax was unnecessary in the first place and hurts poor people
He’s a spineless and traitorous Democrat. But he’s entirely correct on the regressive tax that is called congestion pricing. At least this is the one issue he recognizes would be disastrous
The MTA is about to get a face lift with the money from increased ridership and congestion pricing revenue. The results may take a little bit but improvements are coming
rest of the world: implements congestion pricing after having a high quality public transport system. US: implements congestion pricing without having a high quality public transport system and will never build one because the money will vanish.
Can somebody please educate me and I write this without the slightest of sarcasm. The $9 congestion price is a ONCE per day charge, correct? If so, wouldn’t a roundtrip ticket on NJ transit be more expensive?!! From the little I know , it appears people are using alternate methods to get into the city which are more expensive than just ponying up the $9 Please help me to understand.
From Chris Christy, and possibly before, and Phil Murphy has treated NJ Transit as a step child. A lot of things could of have been done in technology for trains, add more trains to increase service, and the Tunnel project, which could of been done by Chris Christy if he didn't stop it. So you can't blame New York on this one. Also the keep increasing the price on the toll roads, which I believe has been paid for 10 times over. our toll roads have been in service for over 70 years, and you mean to tell this state has not made its money back on them. There should of been money saved for the roads to be improved, and any new monies should went it to improving NJ Transit.
These riders who are complaining about filled trains should ride the train in Tokyo during the rush hour. There are even some stations where they have "packers" that push the passengers closer together so that the doors can be closed. This has occurred to me a couple of times over the many years that I was in Tokyo. I just accept it that trains at rush hour will be OVERFILLED.
If only there was this big pot of money that New Jersey could tap in to for transit investment.🤔 Oh wait, there was.🙄 Didn't NY offered to share some of the funding from Congestion Charges?
Yom , Dick and Harry will drop $50,000 on a new sedan without blinking , but we expect to ride an intercity train , on a whim , for less than five bucks ! .
NJ Transit gets noting outta congestion pricing. It's all for the MTA. So the only thing they get is greater ridership. Good time to raise prices NJTransit
increase tolls to get people to take the train, then increase train fare prices to get people back to the tolls. repeat until you suck them dry. capitalism at work.
Pedestrian congestion charge to access certain sidewalks during peak hours. Use technology like they do in China that ID and scan each person walking in certain high congested areas.
Really? The government has been tolling roads since cars were invented. You have a plate on the back of your car that tells them who you are and where you live. But now you think congestion pricing is one step too far... This is a way to persuade you not to drive in nyc. Just like tax funded widening of a road is pursuading you to drive over any other mode of transport.
Motorists pay gas taxes, licensing fees, and tolls, yet there is no money for roadway improvements. NY's traffic lights look like they are from the 1950's. Pavement conditions are crap. Signage and pavement markings suck. The BQE is falling apart. Yet highways are the lifeblood of the economy. Mass transit is useless for cargo and delivering stuff to your local grocery store.
User fees don’t fully cover road maintenance. Neither federal nor state gas taxes and licensing fees fully cover what each respectively spend on roads.
this is great! billionaires can get to their helicopters and yachts so much faster now. working people can spend more of their pointless lives waiting for busses and trains
So funny when someone so obviously doesn't have a clue what they're talking about but thinks they're incredibly clever! 😂 It's not that kind of train 🤡
NJ transit would've been prepared if they actually allocated money to it instead of adding one more lane to a highway which is proven to not fix traffic.
Why should NJ transit subsidize NY transit 😂
Highway widening does fix traffic. Imagine if no highway ever got widened? Traffic would be a nightmare. The reason it “doesn’t solve traffic” is because it’s not supposed to. It’s expanded with an expanding population. Our highways haven’t actually been widened enough to solve traffic.
@f-86zoomer37 road widening always fails to solve traffic because it creates induced demand. That's why every road widening is ineffective after 6-12 months because people that wouldn't have otherwise driven there switch to that road. The only solution to traffic is alternatives to driving.
@ no. You failed to read my facts properly. Road expansions are necessary to keep up with population growth and demand. The reason it “doesn’t solve traffic” is because we don’t widen them enough. Our political leaders are entirely useless and corrupt. The interstates that feed into the city should be having 18-20 lanes at the minimum. Politicians and state leaders are waging a communist war on cars.
NJT being a hot mess isnt the MTA's fault or responsibility. New jersey chose to invest in wideing there highways into the city knowing dam well congestion pricing was coming. They could had funded NJT improvements and projects but chose not to and now even though finally work is happening its years away from being done and that is new jerseys fault not new york's!
What highways have been widened?
@@povertyspec9651New Jersey Turnpike just got widened. Why not do a quick Google search instead of asking retarded questions like this?
NY decided on a regressive tax. NJ should do nothing unless they are given a piece of the tax.
@@cmdrls212 Last time I check this is all in the state of new york if new jersey people want to do stuff in our state better be ready to pay our prices not our fault your state designed it self to rely on us
@@K1_Trainsmany New Jersey residents have jobs in manhattan, so this affects them. They were never given a voice in this
I don't think working from NJ is the flex you think it is. You still have a NY employer which means you still pay state tax to NY. NJ is just one big commuter state, they have no leverage against NY.
As a New Yorker myself, I wonder what happens if NJ Transit should stop with the Transit problems in parts of their state and resume commuting. : (
Make NJ transit 24 hour service!
Arturo Alvarez a few NJT bus lines in North Jersey, Jersey Shore ie Route 9 Lakewood-Freehold-NYC and South Jersey are already 24/7. Plus Path and PATCO. With that said, I agree at least the NJT Northeast Corridor should run 24/7.
@ agreed. Ppl would just like to atleast be able to get in and out of Jersey at all times. Even if they did a shuttle From Penn to Secaucus every 30 mins overnight
@ I think at the very least the ridership is there to run at least every 90 minutes overnight between 2-5am, a full NY/Penn Station to/from Trenton route in both directions. With shuttle train connecting with the NEC Corridor between Dover-Secaucus (Midtown Direct) and Newark Penn Station-Asbury Park as well.Sadly I don’t think the other NJT rail lines needs overnight service due to not enough ridership.
Plus expand overnight service on a couple of more NYC/Midtown Port Authority bus lines to/from Jersey as well. Especially for bus routes that serves stations along the Suffern-Secaucus/Hoboken corridor.
What a miserable way to get to work
Lower Manhattan is one of the most densely populated centers in the WORLD (not just the US). Congestion makes sense for that area.
NJ leaders just didn’t prioritize transit.
What they should do then is put a toll at your front door and see how you like it when you have to pay to leave your house to go to work or to pay to go home from work so when New Jersey now is going to put the toll for New Yorkers to go into Jersey. Don’t be mad that you have to pay a toll just to go back home.
Bring jobs to NJ, do the tax break that Jersey City offered to the big banks. That should get some of the big companies thinking.
More trains and increased frequency should've done anyway! With or without congestion pricing!
We don’t need more trains
We don’t need more trains. Nobody takes the trains. We prefer the safety of our own private vehicles. Also trains are slow
@@f-86zoomer37 The whole video is about packed trains. Lots of people take trains. Driving in dense cities like New York and Boston is crazy and crazy expensive. Take the train in, then walk or take a subway to your destination.
How about that bad bunny album tho
On repeat!
I find it mind-boggling how many people celebrate making things less affordable then the same people complain that things are unaffordable.
This just proves that congestion pricing works and people are choosing public transport. The solution is to make the train service better.
make the service better first like other countries have done
You mean more expensive 🤣😅😂
@Muromez2010 Well, I did mean that the city should spend more money on it so yes, more expensive for the city.
The lazy governor knew about this for years and decided not to invest in NJ transit. I hope he's voted out
Pretty sure it is the NYC government that will be in hot voter water for their congestion tax NJ can't control.
Forgot about NJ Transit, how about New Jersey officials invest in New Jersey itself. Northern New Jersey has 3 cites that they can made into major cities (Jersey City, Newark & Trenton) similar to cities like Philadelphia & Boston with great downtown areas where people from Jersey can work corporate jobs to hard labor jobs so they don't have to come to New York City to work.
FYI the current NJ Governor Murphy will be out on 1/1/26 due to term limits.
He's term-limited. Hope Fulop gets the nomination.
@@amazing50000 FYI. Trenton is geographically in Central NJ not in North NJ.
This is the whole point of congestion pricing. Getting cars off the roads is the goal. Why is this a hard point to understand?
That's nasty work
Only New Jersey would blame other states for their own problems lol
With all due respect to 'Steve from Roselle Park', I observed a multilevel RVL train (probably one of the trains he takes) on track 5 with a number of standees though there were plenty of empty seats available, just that each available seat is next to an occupied seat. We've gotten used to having our own row since the end of lockdowns; now we're spoiled. LOL! (For the record, I'm one of the standees on the NEC; just choosing to avoid sitting next to strangers, though I could get a seat if I wanted to.)
I don’t blame you, it’s uncomfortable sitting next to someone and sometimes those people don’t want you to sit next to them. But what I don’t get is people sit from New York to Secaucus on a packed train when they stand up
If people work from home the business in Manhattan will suffer as they have suffered in DC
It amazes me how mta can account for a 13% rise in ridership but can't account for all the money they are in deficit. 🤔
This is what was expected but NJ should have prepared for the more people
Why are you not blaming the people in New York for causing this in the first place? The congestion tax was unnecessary in the first place and hurts poor people
I would hate to be manipulated into taking public transit. Does the governor or mayor take public transit?
Why doesn’t the mta collect fares?
BLM/defund the police loonies run the city. Collecting fares would be racist.
Gov. Murphy is an opportunistic a-hole. He refuses to take any responsibility for anything in New Jersey.
Gov Phil Murphy is spineless.
He’s a spineless and traitorous Democrat. But he’s entirely correct on the regressive tax that is called congestion pricing. At least this is the one issue he recognizes would be disastrous
@@f-86zoomer37 You're a spineless and traitorous trumpster.
The MTA is about to get a face lift with the money from increased ridership and congestion pricing revenue.
The results may take a little bit but improvements are coming
No they're not
@@MrChrismlamorte We all shall see
I’m saying away from the city only coming for work
Don’t hold your breath. They’ve had money before and did very little.
Oh please!
rest of the world: implements congestion pricing after having a high quality public transport system. US: implements congestion pricing without having a high quality public transport system and will never build one because the money will vanish.
Can somebody please educate me and I write this without the slightest of sarcasm.
The $9 congestion price is a ONCE per day charge, correct?
If so, wouldn’t a roundtrip ticket on NJ transit be more expensive?!!
From the little I know , it appears people are using alternate methods to get into the city which are more expensive than just ponying up the $9
Please help me to understand.
Can someone explain to me what the congestion pricing. I don't understand it
AUDIT THE MTA
0:21 a "professional" journalist should know the difference between "begging the question" and "raising the question"
From Chris Christy, and possibly before, and Phil Murphy has treated NJ Transit as a step child. A lot of things could of have been done in technology for trains, add more trains to increase service, and the Tunnel project, which could of been done by Chris Christy if he didn't stop it. So you can't blame New York on this one. Also the keep increasing the price on the toll roads, which I believe has been paid for 10 times over. our toll roads have been in service for over 70 years, and you mean to tell this state has not made its money back on them. There should of been money saved for the roads to be improved, and any new monies should went it to improving NJ Transit.
‘’EVERYONE LOOKS PISSED’’ 😂
These riders who are complaining about filled trains should ride the train in Tokyo during the rush hour. There are even some stations where they have "packers" that push the passengers closer together so that the doors can be closed. This has occurred to me a couple of times over the many years that I was in Tokyo. I just accept it that trains at rush hour will be OVERFILLED.
More cars and more trains should have been put into service well before the changes. Plan ahead.
All this mucus pricing money grab goes to hopefulls pocket. How much of that money is she actually going to share with anyone????? 🙄
"this bad bunny album tho" don't forget that part.
They should extend trains, or schedule more trains. Duh…
If only there was this big pot of money that New Jersey could tap in to for transit investment.🤔 Oh wait, there was.🙄 Didn't NY offered to share some of the funding from Congestion Charges?
That bad bunny album tho
Yom , Dick and Harry will drop $50,000 on a new sedan without blinking , but we expect to ride an intercity train , on a whim , for less than five bucks ! .
Lol😅😂!!! Omg!!! Ppl are forced to stand. Lol😅. C'mon.
Just expand the city,,,, got damn
NJ Transit gets noting outta congestion pricing. It's all for the MTA. So the only thing they get is greater ridership. Good time to raise prices NJTransit
increase tolls to get people to take the train, then increase train fare prices to get people back to the tolls. repeat until you suck them dry. capitalism at work.
raising prices lowers ridership
@@cmdrls212 Not with increased pricing for driving/congestion tax.
@@peter7936 If the train price goes up, they will just drive because that's what they do now of the train is cheap
Murphy! he just looking for voted. spend more $ NJT
so now everyone is taking the trains. let me guess they aren't making as much money off the tolls as expected!!! SMH
Not the MTA’s fault
who implemented the congestion tax: the MTA
@@walawala-fo7ds MTA doesn't control NJ Transit
@@kevinestrada1059 the MTA controls the congestion tax and caused the problem.
Their tax. their mess.
Of course it is. What ?
Pedestrian congestion charge to access certain sidewalks during peak hours. Use technology like they do in China that ID and scan each person walking in certain high congested areas.
lol, cry louder.
Really? The government has been tolling roads since cars were invented. You have a plate on the back of your car that tells them who you are and where you live. But now you think congestion pricing is one step too far...
This is a way to persuade you not to drive in nyc. Just like tax funded widening of a road is pursuading you to drive over any other mode of transport.
100% the next logical step
@@john-ic9vjsidewalks are not free. pay up pedestrian. and toll bikes too.
Everyone should get a jetson 1😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Motorists pay gas taxes, licensing fees, and tolls, yet there is no money for roadway improvements. NY's traffic lights look like they are from the 1950's. Pavement conditions are crap. Signage and pavement markings suck. The BQE is falling apart. Yet highways are the lifeblood of the economy. Mass transit is useless for cargo and delivering stuff to your local grocery store.
User fees don’t fully cover road maintenance. Neither federal nor state gas taxes and licensing fees fully cover what each respectively spend on roads.
this is great! billionaires can get to their helicopters and yachts so much faster now. working people can spend more of their pointless lives waiting for busses and trains
lol, you can still drive and wait in traffic but you'll have to pay more to make life in NYC less desirable.
Kabuki!!!!
wouldve been prepared if murphy took the NINE FIGURE SETTLEMENT FOR NJT (with a portion of congestion pricing on top of that) to fix NJT
Congestion on trains? Charge more for first class seating.😂
So funny when someone so obviously doesn't have a clue what they're talking about but thinks they're incredibly clever! 😂 It's not that kind of train 🤡
@@AdeleiTeillanaI think this person may know that and is making a joke.
MTA trying to blame NJT for their mismanagement of funds and congestion pricing.
Wym it’s NJ fault… everyone is coming to New York not Jersey.
Tryna turn the tristate area to china