The guy they interviewed at 1:20, the one who can't fathom not driving 20 blocks, is Andrew Heiberger, a real estate mogul. Parking his car in front of his luxury apartment building, he can afford the $9, or take 2 stops on the subway with the rest of us plebs, or simply walk for 20 minutes. He's probably the least wealthy person with a car that they were able to find around the border of the congestion pricing zone, it's literally Billionaires' Row.
That's one of the things I deduced was probably one culprit a while ago without even learning much about the city to be honest as I was initially being shocked by the amount of car traffic in the city. Myself being someone not in the city and again being shocked by the amount of traffic in NYC via podcasts and through UA-cam/social media. I suspected logically that one factor with all of the wealth in the city that does exist, at least a decent amount of the traffic in the city is because of people that are wealthy using their own car and in this age, "ridesharing" systems and taxis, sort of "public transit" for wealthy people, especially in a country where people barely have time to wipe their own @$$ somedays and want to get somewhere a few minutes quicker and probably don't want to associate with plebs, exactly as you put it. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out but this puts a name and a face to it. I wonder if it's an ego boost for some of these people too, even if only slightly. It's honestly not that horrible to walk in the winter if you layer up. If you're visiting your kids, you can easily take your layers off, it's not like going to a concert venue. Also people of course that don't live in the city and drive to work or live within the greater metro area and visit however often but just pay high prices for parking and of course like most cities in the U.S., they appease those that travel by car with relatively high parking capacity because it's partly cultural in Carmerica. I think the movie industry has played some factor but design of metro spaces has more. This guy sees all these other people driving and is conditioned to drive too to some extent. He grew up in NYC so that he still is conditioned to want to drive is partly puzzling to me but not really that much with the age of wealth we live in and again convenience and _I want it all and I want it now_
Honestly they should set it up like Norway sets up their traffic charges. The more money you make a year, the more these fees cost you. Make them a percentage of the person's income above a certain level so that the poorest commuters pay nothing.
Londoner here: we implemented congestion charging years ago, and there was huge backlash. However, they stuck with it, and I can honestly say it’s been the best thing we’ve ever implemented in London, despite how unpopular it was at first. Less traffic, cleaner air, and more money for public transport. Like the smoking ban, people hated it at first, but imagine someone smoking in a restaurant now. Now with all the extra investiment Transport for London, I sold my car 3 years ago, and can honestly say it's saved me loads more in the long run.
the difference is NY, none of the money goes to help it's citizens. "MTA" is has become another word for shuffling your money to help the pockets of politicians and 3rd part contractors. NYC already has highest costing tolls in the whole country (which were already increased prior to this), despite the city having amongst the worst infrastructure and problem with crime (especially in the outer boroughs). In the year, we've had multiple people (stabbed, shot at, robbed, burned alive) in our trains
@@TravelTechie415 It’s weird. I’ve literally ridden the subway thousands of times, and I've never witnessed anyone get stabbed, shot at, robbed, or burned alive there. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen, but it’s still statistically minuscule. I’ve actually been shot at and have known people who have been stabbed (with an acquaintance dying), but none of that happened in NYC. As for the case of the homeless woman being burned alive, it is sad, but the fact is that there are cases of homeless people being set on fire in NYC (and elsewhere) almost every year. This particular case has been highlighted because conservative fearmongers want to exploit it to push an agenda that is ironically anti-homeless.
Everyone was completely hysterically angry about congestion pricing in Stockholm as well. A month after it was introduced everyone loved it, because suddenly the commute for the people that HAD to commute by car took 30 minutes less. Completely worth it.
It’s literally a tax designed to be punitive enough to change people’s behaviour. Of course there’s going to be backlash until the positive effects can be felt
@Seamalicous Yeah. The point is that it's very quick. Like when banning smoking in bar. So much whining and once it was in effect, people just went "oh wait this is so much better!"
Here in Belgium we have "sundays without cars". All public transports are then free. At the beginning many people were mad about it. Now everybody love it,... it's quite funny to see people making barbecues in the middle of the street, having techno parties in the tunnels and those... Last time I forgot the day it was, and woke up in the morning in a total silent city, thinking a kind o nuclear war happend during the night and everybody disapeared. I realized after a few minutes my mistake. You should try once, it's interesting, it changes mentalities about cars. The only downside is american tourists in the street asking you what's going on... it takes 30 minutes of explanation to reassure them.
Ok, I had to look at the map because I don't know how large American blocks are. It's less than a mile ( or less than 1.5 km) which is laughable. In 15 mins you are there. But maybe they live on the other side of the Central Park. That would be 1.7 miles - a nice little stroll through the Central Park
Josh Johnson is the best. I love seeing him on the show. He has pieces on the show. If you haven't seen his comedy on UA-cam. I highly recommend that everyone checks it out.
@@belbrighton6479his UA-cam channel is one of my favorites, always having new content and creating hilarious videos. I’m so glad I saw him on here and discovered how funny he is. But it’s odd to see him without his hoodie. Lol.
@@TenaciousDD214it’s fifth avenue, one of the most expensive parts to live and it’s out of the zone. And the guy is lying and his kids live 2 subway stops away.
This has been in London for years and it's recently expanded: New York City has 29,302.7 people per square mile (11,313.8/km2) London has 14,600 people per square mile (5,640/km2) - London on plan is also a larger city which is why this is lower. We have this in effect for half the number of people per square mile, you can imagine in NYC it's much worse and needs it more. The Congestion Charge is a £15 daily charge if you drive within the Congestion Charge zone, that's 18.5 USD - NYC CC is 9 Dollars and is paying half what we are paying now.
@@s13shakaThat's the entire issue. A lot of complainers who think this is some unique terrible idea even though we straight up lifted it from other cities, where it worked amazingly. A lot of Americans don't really acknowledge other countries existing tho.
It was originally going to be $15, but there was politicking and we got the $9 that very well might be setting it all up to fail. It needs to be high enough to persuade people to take other micro-mobility because of cost.
More Americans need to learn that public transport is a thing. The number of cars on the road everywhere should be going down, cities have a limit to the traffic they can handle.
More Americans need to learn that more people need to eat, and that when they put food in the dumpsters at the end of the day, it just going to the dump anyway, so when a poor homeless person tries to take food that nobody is going to eat anyways, it shouldn't be a problem. We have more food than we know what to do with, but we'd rather throw it away instead of let someone who needs it take it, because theres no profit in letting poor people eat trash.
question: can public transport handle more people or is it always at peak and full of people? Like i demand my public transport to be like japan at least.
My dude, have you been to NYC? If anything, the guy is going to spend less time outside taking the B/C train. When you drive in Manhattan you're not usually parking directly in front of your origin/destination. @@citiremedia1824
@@GwendolynnBY Not necessarily. I read it as, because of the high congestion of cars in the city, asthma rates are higher in the city than in, say, Brooklyn. For example, in the recent survey, the _New York City Community Health Survey,_ in the LES, there are 240 asthma-related emergency visits per 10,000.
My only problem with congestion pricing is that subway is unreliable. In the past 4 months I got stuck on the bridge on M train between stations, on L train right before Bedford Ave and couldn’t take a train from 103rd street because of blackout somewhere in the Bronx. Each accident took over an hour to resolve and I only take subway once a week. I don’t know how people deal with it if they have to get to work every day or have to pick up kids from work. So many people who live in Queens no longer work in the city because it got so bad. MTA promises to fix these problems but our subway system is really old and is simply falling apart, I doubt congestion pricing gonna raise enough money to solve this.
Everytime I take a road trip to back home to NYC to visit my parents, I never want to drive into Manhattan. Nuts to that. I alwways leave the car behind at my parents' house and just take mass transit into the city. It's just easier and less stressful that way.
I live in Europe. My city has congestion pricing and has had for almost 15 years. There are exceptions and price reductions for people that live and/or work with in the zone. It works. You just have to get used to it and take public transport or walk or ride a bike or take a taxi.
In America I literally cannot make it to all my classes if I take the bus. It's literally impossible unless I take a bike part of the way, and then pray that the bus isn't delayed because someone fell asleep and then chose to argue for 20 minutes rather than get off when ejected by the driver.
From my experience. The VAST majority of people commute via subway and train. So much so, those cars during rush hour are packed solid. Most of the people who have cars, their first reaction is not to drive during rush hour if they can take a train. The people who do drive are likely very rich and not only can afford a daily parking space, the bridge and tunnel fees, but can afford the $9. But that's so few people compared to train commuters. The people who drive usually have to because they're carrying gear, picking up things, etc. I think traffic will always be a problem in NYC, but the vast majority don't care because they're on the train.
Why would you drive in NYC? You don’t need to. Why is the guy complaining about paying to get in his car to go around the block? Walk there. It would take you longer to find a parking spot.
@@jasonmendelson7717 Wouldn't requiring a giant car that consumes an outrageous amount of resources to function count as being more elitist? How is walking in the most walkable city in the US considered elitist?
@@jasonmendelson7717 Wow. Just wow! Is walking more elitist than taking your car to work every day in one of the most packed city centers in the world? Are you kidding me? The suggested congestion charge area can be walked across in 30 mins max. Park your car outside the zone and take the subway, bike or walk to where you need to go. It really isn't that hard.
Such a charge was long overdue for Manhattan. I think it may be even too low To have a significant effect on the traffic. Something has to be done about thte traffic
Same, lifelong resident (now 40 y.o). I laugh when I hear people say that. I feel the same way about going to NYC, and I worked in times square 3 1/2 years.
haha, "it looks like congestion pricing might just be working"..yeah - that's what EVERYONE was telling you guys because it works elsewhere. I'm in Toronto and we need this badly!! instead they said "let's remove bike lanes because that's the real problem for all these cars". Stupidity knows no bounds.
I lived in London (which has congestion pricing) for a bit and I’ve gotta say, it makes the city so much nicer to walk in. Given that New York is basically the only city in the US where you don’t need a car to live there, I’d say it’s a great candidate for this.
@ Not anymore I don’t, but one doesn’t have to live in NYC to know that public transportation is highly reliable there. I’ve also been and can say from personal experience that it is.
@ Yes I have. It’s by far the best city in the US for it, and it’s on par with some European cities in terms of reliability. Maybe not in terms of cleanliness or price, but that’s not the point here. Everyone thinks the public transportation in their city is worse than it is
@@horsetoothcinema it’s only one city in US with something that looks like public transportation)) and no you don’t, because our trains and buses have only one stability )) they always late 😂
I don't know if its just the freezing cold weather this week, but there are noticeably fewer cars on the streets. Between the constant honking, pollution, and dangers to pedestrians cars are really a problem in Manhattan that maybe people in less dense areas don't quite understand. If there is a price for riding the subway, bus or train into the city, there really should be an associated cost with driving. So far I am a believer.
London's had this for literal years and our N2O levels have dropped precipitously. We see about 9000 deaths per year from air pollution. While the roads are still congested, mainly in central, I hazard to think what it would be without the charge.
there are plenty of average people in NYC who are complaining about it as well but your contempt for them stops you from actually seeing them as being affected. People like you, are truly disgusting
@@orangeroom1694literally the commenter specified how they weren’t losing sleep over the wealthy that are complaining. And you immediately call them gross and assume they were talking about something else. Try some breathing exercises. Maybe even meditation + yoga to help cool down your boiling blood
@@ErgoProxy12345 there are a lot of Republican and Conservative 'supporters' who would claim that threatening is freedom of speech. Maybe they like spreading fear.
Real bright move to avoid $9 The fine for driving without a plate is $300, driving with an obscured plate is $500 or to avoid tolls can be up to $500. Last year even before this congestion tax nearly 500 people were arrested in NYC for license plates schemed to avoid other tolls, over 18000 summoned, 2100 cars seized and 19M in judgements/fines. They set up a task force. Also, the fact is congestion pricing has worked to reduce traffic issues in other large cities around the world such as London. Since they did it 20 years ago traffic is down 18% while the population has increased.
I'm glad we don't have congestion pricing where I live in the Netherlands. I'm also glad we don't need congestion pricing, because viable alternatives are readily available. I cycle everywhere within the city, it's cheaper, faster and healthier, several bus stops are just around the corner and so I can easily get to the train station if I need to go further too!
I remember years ago being driven around Singapore with a friend and the sensor thingy in his car would ding every once in a while. I thought it was a clever way to toll drivers.
Personally, I think that the congestion pricing should have a tiered system where commercial vehicles can ask for an exemption well those non-commercial vehicles should still be on the congestion pricing. I don’t think the businesses should be harmed to have to do work in that area.
You seem to be conflating the people who are sick of you driving there with the people that insist you be there. Maybe wanna think that through a little more?
The Jersey shore residents are pretty torn about NY tourists (aka "Bennies") from what I hear, too. They need NY money, but could do without the actual rude tourists. As a Louisiana native, I feel that.
Went to UK & Europe last year/this year - noticed many cities are battling their congestion with long established *congestion pricing* ||>> This isn’t new and is happening everywhere. If you insist on driving yet don’t want to pay, then drive to the edge of the city congestion zone, park, then either walk, e-cycle, e-scooter, or take transit. If you’re rich/privileged enough to own / drive a car and insist on bringing it into the inner city then you pay! You gotta PAY.💰 the congestion = air pollution. We need to clear the air.
People forget that NYCers are paying and additional tax and people that are living in NJ and effectively living in NYC have been avoding taxes this entire time
@@sauravyelpula2993 This. It's fairly typical for states to have exemptions to these kinds of charges if you have a disability. Otherwise that congestion fee is probably the cheapest thing you'll pay for in NYC 😂
@@Komrav Exactly! Accessibility projects are a huge part of the congestion pricing budget. (And for what it's worth, the local buses and SBS *are* accessible, although express buses aren't.)
Funny seeing how much of a shock it is when I feel like it was in London years and years ago. Wait till they hear about diesel charges. But yeah, the public transport needs to be a suitable alternative not one where crime rates are a concern as the gentleman mentioned.
They will be paying a reduced price of 1.50$ per ride which I’m sure will be displayed on customers bill like the other existing charges such as bridge etc.
There should be a handicapped exemption. Ever seen an elevator down to the subway? Personally, it's just a cost of doing business. If I want to see a show in the city... that toll just gets added to the outrageous parking garage fees.
"Ever seen a elevator in the subway. " Yes. In Europe many stations have elevator for disable people. Guess where you could find the money ? Paris did that, Berlin did that. Why the f New York can't.
There is an "Individual Disability Exemption Plan" for people who cannot access public transportation, which can also be extended to their caregivers if they require one to travel with. It's a song and dance to apply and you have to pass an assessment, but that option is currently there.
Why ppl think this only affects drivers? Delivery trucks gonna charge the stores more and they gonna raise their prices. Taxis have already raised their prices.
@chip400 timely delivery don't change the price they will have to pay. Deliveries on time have never been the issue. Also less traffic where? You think 4th only place delivery trucks dive is that area? Traffic will be increased in all other areas and other boroughs which the MTA even admitted and agreed to install air filters in high schools in the Bronx as a result of the added pollution
@@anthonypierre2094 Less traffic in the congestion relief zones. So that'll absolutely push people who still insist on driving to other areas. And if those other areas suffer, that's the fault of the automobile right? So if congestion is bad, then we should expand the congestion relief zone to cover more areas!
Honest The Daily Show dropped the ball here. Didnt talk once how only 24% of the people in the surrounding county own a car. Or how only 3% drive for regular commutes. I even think if you add some of the more surburban country you only get around 40% owning cars. This isn't a tax on poor people. it's a tax to fix the public transit for the people that need it.
If you're referencing the completely flawed CSS study on who would be impacted the most, those estimates have a lot of problems. 1) It assumes that anyone earning above $60,000 is higher income and 2)It didn't take into account people driving through Manhattan to get to NJ or other boroughs which comprises a significant amount of traffic. Basically, you can just throw that study out of the window. At this point, there is no data to back up those stats.
More accurately, it's ridiculously expensive to visit when you choose to do so by bringing a large personal vehicle into it, and then having to pay to use then store your large piece of personal property, taking up space in the most expensive land on earth. Forget the car, forget the tolls.
The guy they interviewed at 1:20, the one who can't fathom not driving 20 blocks, is Andrew Heiberger, a real estate mogul. Parking his car in front of his luxury apartment building, he can afford the $9, or take 2 stops on the subway with the rest of us plebs, or simply walk for 20 minutes. He's probably the least wealthy person with a car that they were able to find around the border of the congestion pricing zone, it's literally Billionaires' Row.
19 blocks, less than a mile, lazy...
So he’s a selfish cheapskate
That's one of the things I deduced was probably one culprit a while ago without even learning much about the city to be honest as I was initially being shocked by the amount of car traffic in the city. Myself being someone not in the city and again being shocked by the amount of traffic in NYC via podcasts and through UA-cam/social media.
I suspected logically that one factor with all of the wealth in the city that does exist, at least a decent amount of the traffic in the city is because of people that are wealthy using their own car and in this age, "ridesharing" systems and taxis, sort of "public transit" for wealthy people, especially in a country where people barely have time to wipe their own @$$ somedays and want to get somewhere a few minutes quicker and probably don't want to associate with plebs, exactly as you put it. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out but this puts a name and a face to it. I wonder if it's an ego boost for some of these people too, even if only slightly. It's honestly not that horrible to walk in the winter if you layer up. If you're visiting your kids, you can easily take your layers off, it's not like going to a concert venue.
Also people of course that don't live in the city and drive to work or live within the greater metro area and visit however often but just pay high prices for parking and of course like most cities in the U.S., they appease those that travel by car with relatively high parking capacity because it's partly cultural in Carmerica. I think the movie industry has played some factor but design of metro spaces has more. This guy sees all these other people driving and is conditioned to drive too to some extent. He grew up in NYC so that he still is conditioned to want to drive is partly puzzling to me but not really that much with the age of wealth we live in and again convenience and _I want it all and I want it now_
Then charge him $10k to access it. $9 is less than a penny to him. So? Tax the billionaires directly
Honestly they should set it up like Norway sets up their traffic charges. The more money you make a year, the more these fees cost you. Make them a percentage of the person's income above a certain level so that the poorest commuters pay nothing.
Fewer cars = cooler car chase scenes.
Joshua always pointing out the things we miss!
That’s why Adams doesn’t like the new tax. The feds can chase him a lot easier than before
@@NotBizarro Without the tax, the feds just walk up to his traffic jammed car.
The "F*** you" guy's face after he and Josh flipped middles and hugged is one of the sweetest things ever 😂
F*** yeah.
Folks will be wanting to know who he is and hook up with him, and I don't blame them one bit.
Must be a New York state of mind, huh? 😉🙏👍
Brought a tear to my eye
He is adorable.... Hugs and the finger; only in NYC.
Londoner here: we implemented congestion charging years ago, and there was huge backlash. However, they stuck with it, and I can honestly say it’s been the best thing we’ve ever implemented in London, despite how unpopular it was at first. Less traffic, cleaner air, and more money for public transport. Like the smoking ban, people hated it at first, but imagine someone smoking in a restaurant now. Now with all the extra investiment Transport for London, I sold my car 3 years ago, and can honestly say it's saved me loads more in the long run.
New Yorkers are likely do respond to it differently though. Just because New Yorkers are not from London and yeah, somehow found out about this post.
Get out of here with all your European sensible talk 😡😡
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the difference is NY, none of the money goes to help it's citizens. "MTA" is has become another word for shuffling your money to help the pockets of politicians and 3rd part contractors. NYC already has highest costing tolls in the whole country (which were already increased prior to this), despite the city having amongst the worst infrastructure and problem with crime (especially in the outer boroughs). In the year, we've had multiple people (stabbed, shot at, robbed, burned alive) in our trains
@@TravelTechie415 It’s weird. I’ve literally ridden the subway thousands of times, and I've never witnessed anyone get stabbed, shot at, robbed, or burned alive there. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen, but it’s still statistically minuscule. I’ve actually been shot at and have known people who have been stabbed (with an acquaintance dying), but none of that happened in NYC.
As for the case of the homeless woman being burned alive, it is sad, but the fact is that there are cases of homeless people being set on fire in NYC (and elsewhere) almost every year. This particular case has been highlighted because conservative fearmongers want to exploit it to push an agenda that is ironically anti-homeless.
London give massive discounts for people living in the zone and just on the edge
Everyone was completely hysterically angry about congestion pricing in Stockholm as well. A month after it was introduced everyone loved it, because suddenly the commute for the people that HAD to commute by car took 30 minutes less. Completely worth it.
It’s literally a tax designed to be punitive enough to change people’s behaviour. Of course there’s going to be backlash until the positive effects can be felt
@Seamalicous Yeah. The point is that it's very quick. Like when banning smoking in bar. So much whining and once it was in effect, people just went "oh wait this is so much better!"
Here in Belgium we have "sundays without cars". All public transports are then free. At the beginning many people were mad about it. Now everybody love it,... it's quite funny to see people making barbecues in the middle of the street, having techno parties in the tunnels and those... Last time I forgot the day it was, and woke up in the morning in a total silent city, thinking a kind o nuclear war happend during the night and everybody disapeared. I realized after a few minutes my mistake. You should try once, it's interesting, it changes mentalities about cars. The only downside is american tourists in the street asking you what's going on... it takes 30 minutes of explanation to reassure them.
One of the many reasons I love Belgium🤗 What city is this in?
That's amazing!! More places should try this.
Isn't it once a year thing?
We should do that here in the US
Tokyo also has significant pedestrian zones on Sundays, its great
Who in their right mind DRIVES 17 blocks to visit someone in nyc?? By the time he finds a new parking spot, he could have walked. 😂
Ok, I had to look at the map because I don't know how large American blocks are. It's less than a mile ( or less than 1.5 km) which is laughable. In 15 mins you are there. But maybe they live on the other side of the Central Park. That would be 1.7 miles - a nice little stroll through the Central Park
According to the recent census, 75 - 80% of people around 60th St don't own cars. Let them pay for their luxury, right?
It's called "carbrain": they're so hyperfocused on cars as the only way that they can travel that alternatives don't register to them."
Could be not wanting to walk in the cold
New York is freezing right now
@@HuskyOwner-bl1jfTrue...But also, there are other means of transport such as subways buses, taxis, and Uber that would be cheaper than driving.
Josh Johnson is the best. I love seeing him on the show. He has pieces on the show. If you haven't seen his comedy on UA-cam. I highly recommend that everyone checks it out.
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Josh is a G!
I bought tickets yesterday for a comedy tour stop he has somewhat near me. So excited!!
I am in love with Josh Johnson, amazing person and comedian.
Me toooo!❤😭😭 He's the best.
@ I subscribe to his UA-cam channel, which is just brilliant.
@@belbrighton6479his UA-cam channel is one of my favorites, always having new content and creating hilarious videos. I’m so glad I saw him on here and discovered how funny he is. But it’s odd to see him without his hoodie. Lol.
Nice try Diddy.
Hon, get in line...😎
"Dropped my wife off at the apartment on 60th St" - I think he can afford the $9.
Heaven forbid he drops her off a block away and save the $9! 😂
I think he got into that neighborhood by pinching every penny that came his way. He can afford it, but he also needs to express dissent.
He would get there faster now that the poors are off the road 😂
Depends on when the moved in
Don’t hate! The man worked hard to get that apartment and pays a shitload in maintenance. Don’t knock it until you live in NYC.
So the guy at 1:22 who lives at 800 Fifth Ave is lamenting $9. Sounds about right
Is that an expensive location compared to the rest of the city? Southerner here
Not a new yorker but yes, absolutely @TenaciousDD214
Also, take this with a grain of salt but i heard he's a CEO
@@TenaciousDD214it’s fifth avenue, one of the most expensive parts to live and it’s out of the zone.
And the guy is lying and his kids live 2 subway stops away.
@@TenaciousDD214It's one of the most expensive and exclusive buildings in NYC. It's for the wealthy only.
You make assumptions. The point is why should anyone have to pay an additional $9 because of the block they live in.
Josh Johnson is so great. Quick-witted and smart, great contributor.
His street interviews are the best.
Desi and Josh, a beam of joy, love ya Daily Show! ❤
If that guy living on 61st is driving to visit his kids on 79th street, he's part of the problem. Dude! It's a mile....
This has been in London for years and it's recently expanded:
New York City has 29,302.7 people per square mile (11,313.8/km2)
London has 14,600 people per square mile (5,640/km2) - London on plan is also a larger city which is why this is lower.
We have this in effect for half the number of people per square mile, you can imagine in NYC it's much worse and needs it more. The Congestion Charge is a £15 daily charge if you drive within the Congestion Charge zone, that's 18.5 USD - NYC CC is 9 Dollars and is paying half what we are paying now.
nobody cares.
@@s13shakaThat's the entire issue. A lot of complainers who think this is some unique terrible idea even though we straight up lifted it from other cities, where it worked amazingly. A lot of Americans don't really acknowledge other countries existing tho.
New York is just the beginning for the US. It will eventually spread to other cities and the charge will inflate like everything else.
It was originally going to be $15, but there was politicking and we got the $9 that very well might be setting it all up to fail. It needs to be high enough to persuade people to take other micro-mobility because of cost.
@@justin___ The $9 toll is temporary! In 2028 it's going up to $12, and in 2031 it's going up to the original $15.
More Americans need to learn that public transport is a thing. The number of cars on the road everywhere should be going down, cities have a limit to the traffic they can handle.
I just hope you really mean it and not say it to have the road for yourself.
More Americans need to learn that more people need to eat, and that when they put food in the dumpsters at the end of the day, it just going to the dump anyway, so when a poor homeless person tries to take food that nobody is going to eat anyways, it shouldn't be a problem. We have more food than we know what to do with, but we'd rather throw it away instead of let someone who needs it take it, because theres no profit in letting poor people eat trash.
question: can public transport handle more people or is it always at peak and full of people?
Like i demand my public transport to be like japan at least.
At a certain point of urban density cars just become impossible, you'd need like a hundred lanes to handle all of nyc potential traffic
plenty of Americans use public transportation every single day, you're an ignorant muppet if you think they aren't.
I love to hear piggyback rides and teleportation discussed as viable transportation options. Now we're getting somewhere!
I want that piggyback method, are you selling it and can I use it?
that's still dividing the rich and poor.
We already have this in London. Keeps the streets reasonably free of cars - and everyone else uses the underground. Works fine.
You are aware the likelihood of Americans taking tax advice from the British is vanishingly small. What’s next theology for the Irish from Cromwell.
@@nathanmountain1321 Hello, random faceless UA-cam profile. Thank you for your inspiring contribution to the discourse.
@@ReubenCornellhow is it you not random 😂
Keep in mind 60th street is in line with central park, about a ton of trains, several bus stops, and rental bike stations
When it is 21°F, no one has any interest in walking🤬
My dude, have you been to NYC? If anything, the guy is going to spend less time outside taking the B/C train.
When you drive in Manhattan you're not usually parking directly in front of your origin/destination. @@citiremedia1824
Walking in the cold? Like a peasant? I need my air-conditioned living room on wheels in order to go anywhere.
@@citiremedia1824 then they should run to keep warm
@@Frostbikerwhat about elderly people and people with kids?
I’ve been paying congestion pricing for 30 years. I have asthma and live in a place with high allergens
has it helped you?
I realize moving is not easy... but have you considered moving?
I think people don't realize op is making a congestion joke.
@@GwendolynnBY everyone here is a regarded lib of course they don't get the joke.
@@GwendolynnBY Not necessarily. I read it as, because of the high congestion of cars in the city, asthma rates are higher in the city than in, say, Brooklyn. For example, in the recent survey, the _New York City Community Health Survey,_ in the LES, there are 240 asthma-related emergency visits per 10,000.
My only problem with congestion pricing is that subway is unreliable. In the past 4 months I got stuck on the bridge on M train between stations, on L train right before Bedford Ave and couldn’t take a train from 103rd street because of blackout somewhere in the Bronx. Each accident took over an hour to resolve and I only take subway once a week. I don’t know how people deal with it if they have to get to work every day or have to pick up kids from work. So many people who live in Queens no longer work in the city because it got so bad. MTA promises to fix these problems but our subway system is really old and is simply falling apart, I doubt congestion pricing gonna raise enough money to solve this.
Everytime I take a road trip to back home to NYC to visit my parents, I never want to drive into Manhattan. Nuts to that. I alwways leave the car behind at my parents' house and just take mass transit into the city. It's just easier and less stressful that way.
I live in Europe. My city has congestion pricing and has had for almost 15 years. There are exceptions and price reductions for people that live and/or work with in the zone. It works. You just have to get used to it and take public transport or walk or ride a bike or take a taxi.
In America I literally cannot make it to all my classes if I take the bus. It's literally impossible unless I take a bike part of the way, and then pray that the bus isn't delayed because someone fell asleep and then chose to argue for 20 minutes rather than get off when ejected by the driver.
You underestimate the _love_ North Americans have for cars.
@@justin___ Did someone say CARS?! 0-0 :0000
Public transport, bike or walk...
All things New Yorkers should be doing regardless.
If there is any place in America that works, it's New York.
@@MDuarte-vp7bm Does your city have congestion pricing though?
From my experience. The VAST majority of people commute via subway and train. So much so, those cars during rush hour are packed solid. Most of the people who have cars, their first reaction is not to drive during rush hour if they can take a train. The people who do drive are likely very rich and not only can afford a daily parking space, the bridge and tunnel fees, but can afford the $9. But that's so few people compared to train commuters. The people who drive usually have to because they're carrying gear, picking up things, etc. I think traffic will always be a problem in NYC, but the vast majority don't care because they're on the train.
Why would you drive in NYC? You don’t need to. Why is the guy complaining about paying to get in his car to go around the block? Walk there. It would take you longer to find a parking spot.
And cost more to park
His relevant complaint was that, due to one-way streets, he had to drive into the "congestion" zone in order to go around the block.
Americans’ obsession with cars and the sense of entitlement that they have with regards to being able to have them is so self-destructive
@@BasicYTHandle and then adjust accordingly, he can afford to live and drive in new york
Thank you for having Josh Johnson on! 🥰
Josh Johnson is a prolific comedic treasure. He seems like a cool person too. I'm a fan!
Josh Johnson is the best.
Desi and Josh make my day better.
This should have been done 20 years ago! Im all for it now I just want to see massive improvements of the subway😅
"F you!" "F you too!" Group hug! 🥰😂
5:23 That woman speaks truth.
😂 Josh's field pieces are the best
Walk or take the bike.
Manhattan isn't that big.
What an elitist thing to say.
@@jasonmendelson7717 what an ignorant thing to say
@@DefenestrateYourselfNot really. Some people are disabled.
@@jasonmendelson7717 Wouldn't requiring a giant car that consumes an outrageous amount of resources to function count as being more elitist? How is walking in the most walkable city in the US considered elitist?
@@jasonmendelson7717 Wow. Just wow! Is walking more elitist than taking your car to work every day in one of the most packed city centers in the world? Are you kidding me?
The suggested congestion charge area can be walked across in 30 mins max. Park your car outside the zone and take the subway, bike or walk to where you need to go. It really isn't that hard.
"I want to get robbed somewhere clean" - LOL
Love you, @Josh Johnson!❤
I think you mean "[BLEEP] you, Josh Johnson ❤"
Such a charge was long overdue for Manhattan. I think it may be even too low To have a significant effect on the traffic. Something has to be done about thte traffic
I hope someone actually covers their car in license plates.
As a lifelong NJ resident (now 73 y.o.), absolutely LOL'ed at the lady who said, "Nobody wants to go to Jersey unless they have to."
Same, lifelong resident (now 40 y.o). I laugh when I hear people say that. I feel the same way about going to NYC, and I worked in times square 3 1/2 years.
haha, "it looks like congestion pricing might just be working"..yeah - that's what EVERYONE was telling you guys because it works elsewhere. I'm in Toronto and we need this badly!! instead they said "let's remove bike lanes because that's the real problem for all these cars". Stupidity knows no bounds.
I had no idea Josh Johnson was on the Daily Show. Absolutely love him.
Anytime I see Desi & Josh in a segment, I’m in!
I lived in London (which has congestion pricing) for a bit and I’ve gotta say, it makes the city so much nicer to walk in. Given that New York is basically the only city in the US where you don’t need a car to live there, I’d say it’s a great candidate for this.
How do you know? You live in London 😂
@ Not anymore I don’t, but one doesn’t have to live in NYC to know that public transportation is highly reliable there. I’ve also been and can say from personal experience that it is.
@@horsetoothcinema I don’t believe you )) you never used public transportation in New York if you think it’s reliable 😂
@ Yes I have. It’s by far the best city in the US for it, and it’s on par with some European cities in terms of reliability. Maybe not in terms of cleanliness or price, but that’s not the point here. Everyone thinks the public transportation in their city is worse than it is
@@horsetoothcinema it’s only one city in US with something that looks like public transportation)) and no you don’t, because our trains and buses have only one stability )) they always late 😂
I don't know if its just the freezing cold weather this week, but there are noticeably fewer cars on the streets. Between the constant honking, pollution, and dangers to pedestrians cars are really a problem in Manhattan that maybe people in less dense areas don't quite understand. If there is a price for riding the subway, bus or train into the city, there really should be an associated cost with driving. So far I am a believer.
London's had this for literal years and our N2O levels have dropped precipitously. We see about 9000 deaths per year from air pollution. While the roads are still congested, mainly in central, I hazard to think what it would be without the charge.
Take the train. Walk. Bike. Having a car in NYC is a luxury. The wealthy in NYC are complaining. 😂
there are plenty of average people in NYC who are complaining about it as well but your contempt for them stops you from actually seeing them as being affected. People like you, are truly disgusting
@@orangeroom1694literally the commenter specified how they weren’t losing sleep over the wealthy that are complaining. And you immediately call them gross and assume they were talking about something else.
Try some breathing exercises. Maybe even meditation + yoga to help cool down your boiling blood
@@orangeroom1694
And even average people MUST pay. Don't like society? Leave.
Only in NYC would people rather commit a crime than take the subway-this city truly never fails to surprise!
And yet 3,600,000 people -- more than a third of the city using the subway daily on average and another 1,2 mio the busses.
@@AaronOkeanos New Jerseyans probably
Don't forget about DC
When crazy people threaten to stab others in the subway...
@@ErgoProxy12345 there are a lot of Republican and Conservative 'supporters' who would claim that threatening is freedom of speech. Maybe they like spreading fear.
My guy WALK!
Real bright move to avoid $9 The fine for driving without a plate is $300, driving with an obscured plate is $500 or to avoid tolls can be up to $500. Last year even before this congestion tax nearly 500 people were arrested in NYC for license plates schemed to avoid other tolls, over 18000 summoned, 2100 cars seized and 19M in judgements/fines. They set up a task force. Also, the fact is congestion pricing has worked to reduce traffic issues in other large cities around the world such as London. Since they did it 20 years ago traffic is down 18% while the population has increased.
Josh Johnson is an American comedic treasure.
It’s FEWER cars, FEWER people = countable; LESS noise, LESS pollution = uncountable nouns
I'm glad we don't have congestion pricing where I live in the Netherlands. I'm also glad we don't need congestion pricing, because viable alternatives are readily available. I cycle everywhere within the city, it's cheaper, faster and healthier, several bus stops are just around the corner and so I can easily get to the train station if I need to go further too!
@@3133WBJ Ya! But Netherlands is no NYC. Fuhgettaboutit!!
2:05 legs we call them footsubishi 😂
Big yay for the Daily Show and big yay for Josh!!
Lol, this is an idea from Singapore from like 40 years ago... complain all you want, it ain't gonna go away...
I remember years ago being driven around Singapore with a friend and the sensor thingy in his car would ding every once in a while. I thought it was a clever way to toll drivers.
Desi, this was your BEST video of all time !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks! (Btw, I'm from New Jersey!)
So you can afford this ?
I think its great. People are only thinking of the personal price, they're not thinking of the collective upside.
What is collective upside? Higher prices in stores and restaurants? Each truck will be charged $25 per ride
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I love Desi and Josh so much.
Homie at the end ready to change the world!! ❤😂
Personally, I think that the congestion pricing should have a tiered system where commercial vehicles can ask for an exemption well those non-commercial vehicles should still be on the congestion pricing. I don’t think the businesses should be harmed to have to do work in that area.
I know at least emergency is exempt and there are other caveats as well.
"There's too much congestion in town."
We could go back to working from home so fewer people need to drive into downtown.
"No, let's just monetize it"
You seem to be conflating the people who are sick of you driving there with the people that insist you be there. Maybe wanna think that through a little more?
"I wanna get robbed somewhere clean" 😂
The Jersey shore residents are pretty torn about NY tourists (aka "Bennies") from what I hear, too. They need NY money, but could do without the actual rude tourists. As a Louisiana native, I feel that.
LOVE the pro-transit bent of the audience and host in this clip!
Love to Desi as always, but a shout out to Josh for the tie and all. You look warm in that coat, too.
If only there was some method of transport other than a car...
I will forever laugh at the "bribes from turkey" line...I mean track. lol
Went to UK & Europe last year/this year - noticed many cities are battling their congestion with long established *congestion pricing* ||>> This isn’t new and is happening everywhere. If you insist on driving yet don’t want to pay, then drive to the edge of the city congestion zone, park, then either walk, e-cycle, e-scooter, or take transit. If you’re rich/privileged enough to own / drive a car and insist on bringing it into the inner city then you pay! You gotta PAY.💰 the congestion = air pollution. We need to clear the air.
People forget that NYCers are paying and additional tax and people that are living in NJ and effectively living in NYC have been avoding taxes this entire time
That guy does not drive his car 17 blocks to see his kids. No sane person would do that.
I loved everything about this. I usually cringe when the reporters in the field comes up, but Josh nailed it!
If you live or work in NYC, you DO have other options. You're in one of the tiny handful of American metro areas where driving is genuinely optional.
Now I wonder if that money will actually go to the MTA or just the big wigs
MTA is money pit
Nobody goes to NJ unless they absolutely have to. 👍
I'm a Masshole, but I have to defend Jersey. It's got great beaches and some decent cities and suburbs.
Desi’s joke delivery is superb
Where? Women aren’t funny
There should not be any private cars in Manhattan. I have been in Manhattan several times and I never rented or bought a car to get around.
Great show, thanks 👍
Not all Subway stations are wheelchair accessible.
You can apply for exceptions to the tax if you have disabilities or other health issues
Maybe with the money they get from Congestion Charge they can change that
@@sauravyelpula2993 This. It's fairly typical for states to have exemptions to these kinds of charges if you have a disability. Otherwise that congestion fee is probably the cheapest thing you'll pay for in NYC 😂
@@Komrav Exactly! Accessibility projects are a huge part of the congestion pricing budget. (And for what it's worth, the local buses and SBS *are* accessible, although express buses aren't.)
@@evelynivy6124they weren’t talking about the bus
Desi Lydic is so great 🙂
Funny seeing how much of a shock it is when I feel like it was in London years and years ago. Wait till they hear about diesel charges. But yeah, the public transport needs to be a suitable alternative not one where crime rates are a concern as the gentleman mentioned.
Thank you, Desi (and Josh) 😂
"No one drives in New York. There's too much traffic."
As soon as the residents start to see the benefits they'll always vote to keep it.
YEAH WELL IF YOU’RE OK WITH HOMELESSNESS BE OK WITH THIS CRY ME A RIVER
Love Josh Johnson piece❤❤❤
The Guy in the gorilla suit is hilarious 😂😂😂 teleportation! Cathy said that's 18$
How exactly does this affect the NY taxis 🚕? I can't image they're coming out ahead on fares!
It's a daily charge, not only can they afford it, they will be making more from all those people not driving.
They will be paying a reduced price of 1.50$ per ride which I’m sure will be displayed on customers bill like the other existing charges such as bridge etc.
The end got me rolling😂😂😂😂
There should be a handicapped exemption. Ever seen an elevator down to the subway? Personally, it's just a cost of doing business. If I want to see a show in the city... that toll just gets added to the outrageous parking garage fees.
"Ever seen a elevator in the subway. "
Yes. In Europe many stations have elevator for disable people. Guess where you could find the money ? Paris did that, Berlin did that. Why the f New York can't.
I have seen elevators in the Chicago subway, however I haven't been to the New York subways.
Wait NY doesn't have elevators in their subway? Wild
That's why they do have a handicapped exemption, AND they're putting the tax money to making all the subway stations accessible
There is an "Individual Disability Exemption Plan" for people who cannot access public transportation, which can also be extended to their caregivers if they require one to travel with. It's a song and dance to apply and you have to pass an assessment, but that option is currently there.
i bet that guy's kids don't want him to visit...
I love visiting New York City in the warm / hot summer . I walk and it amazes me how people will drive a few blocks rather than walk 😂
"Fewer" cars. "Less" congestion. C'mon, Josh!
I read "cognition tax" and it got me thinking...
That's how they get you.
Cars should not be in dense urban cores.
Then you need to improve public transportation
@helenk2800 hey, guess what! They just announced a way to pay for that public transportation! It's called... Congestion Pricing!
@@BlindButNotMute so all federal money which was poured to MTA doesn’t help? I don’t believe these money will help also
The only idiots complaining are Jersey suburbanites. 🤣
So you think people from other New York boroughs shouldn’t travel to the City?
Why ppl think this only affects drivers? Delivery trucks gonna charge the stores more and they gonna raise their prices. Taxis have already raised their prices.
But less traffic means those trucks can get places faster and complete more deliveries. Are stores gonna drop their prices now?
@chip400 timely delivery don't change the price they will have to pay. Deliveries on time have never been the issue.
Also less traffic where? You think 4th only place delivery trucks dive is that area? Traffic will be increased in all other areas and other boroughs which the MTA even admitted and agreed to install air filters in high schools in the Bronx as a result of the added pollution
@@anthonypierre2094 Less traffic in the congestion relief zones. So that'll absolutely push people who still insist on driving to other areas. And if those other areas suffer, that's the fault of the automobile right? So if congestion is bad, then we should expand the congestion relief zone to cover more areas!
It’s ridiculous for the most transit oriented area of the country to prioritize cars over mass transit and other transportation alternatives.
Honest The Daily Show dropped the ball here. Didnt talk once how only 24% of the people in the surrounding county own a car. Or how only 3% drive for regular commutes. I even think if you add some of the more surburban country you only get around 40% owning cars.
This isn't a tax on poor people. it's a tax to fix the public transit for the people that need it.
If you're referencing the completely flawed CSS study on who would be impacted the most, those estimates have a lot of problems. 1) It assumes that anyone earning above $60,000 is higher income and 2)It didn't take into account people driving through Manhattan to get to NJ or other boroughs which comprises a significant amount of traffic. Basically, you can just throw that study out of the window. At this point, there is no data to back up those stats.
Whenever my son drives to NY the the toll bill is always anywhere from $40-$60. New York is ridiculously expensive even just to visit.
Could you son park outside the city and take the train?
If only there were some kind of massive train network to help
More accurately, it's ridiculously expensive to visit when you choose to do so by bringing a large personal vehicle into it, and then having to pay to use then store your large piece of personal property, taking up space in the most expensive land on earth.
Forget the car, forget the tolls.