@@Xentix00 The creator could have made that point and still made the video a minute long. Plus, it's literally just a statement, and hes just jokingly summarizing it up.
@@nolantheaverage7564 Like I said. Algorithm. There’s certain things channels like these do that make videos they upload to viral. So all that “joking stuff” is just a little sprinkle. I just want you to check how many views this single short has. Really think about it.
They struggled with anime and turning red- they struggled with turning red because it was heavily based off of anime, which they were inexperienced in.They didn't struggle with anime bc of turning red, tho. /nm
They put the discord notification sound in there so you alt tab off and check through your servers trying to figure out where it came from. Meanwhile they hope you leave the video running and get multiple loops.
@@Jack_Woodsas someone that watches anime it just still looks like pixar and the crazy thing is their is digitally drawn anime it's just not cgi but even then there are cgi anime that look good
I think the main reason why it doesnt look “anime” enough is that pixar dont do anymore 2D animations. They now mostly use blenders and etc to make a rig for the character
Turning Red has the most personality out the other movies. Felt like a real group a teenage girls talking to each other! I hope Pixar goes more in that direction with their future work. ❤
I remember someone once saying the anime style was heavily discouraged at CalArts and the western animation industry for a really long time (it might’ve been Brian Lemay or Tony White), with the exception of Studio Ghibli. I guess it didn’t work out too well for them in the long run 😅
I don't think discouraging an anime style is really a bad thing, when studying art alot of people want to job to skip stylized work before they understand how to work from life. Working from life is important cause a style is an exaggerated variation of something that occurs in life. When art teachers discourage using a type of style it's not really out of hatred for the style but it's a different way of doing things that cuts corners of certain fundamentals. Learning a broad set of fundamentals equips artist with the ability to learn any style where as simply focusing on anime would probably limit an artist later on.
@@user-rq5wk2jv1d Yeah, I agree with that statement, but you don't hear that teachers and masters decry cartoonization like old newspaper strips or something akin to Jack Davis style. If you discourage one you have to do the same with the other.
That definitely made sense for before Akira in 1988 as anime was mostly non existent in the west before that point except for a couple of really popular anime shows like Astro Boy. It might of also been because of how adult anime was just as big in Japan as what it is now and was extremely frowned upon in the west as at the time animation in the west was perceived by the general population as a medium specifically for kids and family friendly content.
@@thegreatestbaryonyx6107 They do that so that you comment and complain about it which gives them more engagment in the algorithim. It's all a dirty trick
It's interesting that Turning Red was intentionally stylized as anime. Although that is not the work of the "animators". Those decisions start from the very beggining. A sweat drop must be in the storyboard, and probably animated by a VFX artist. A production is much more complex than saying that everything is "animated" by "animators", there's a lot more depth.
Idk, a few years ago (2017-ish), I remember Disney being the big thing for most animation students and the divide between anime watchers and them being very defined, disney peps either looking down on anime or avoiding it all together... Now the trend seems to have changed, I have seen the newer generation of animation students being more into anime (and open to more styles) with the ones that reject it becoming more of a minority, I would credit the fact that it has become not only more accessible and easier to consume thanks to streaming platforms, its has become more normalised due to globalization, which certainly played a role.
Curious. I dunno if it's because México loves anime, but all my friends who studied for animation always practiced both western and Japanese ever since they were little kids, and I always thought all animators did this. Kinda like meeting a mechanic that didn't touch a car growing up.
If Disney wants to make anime inspired 3d animation, they should hire Marza animation for that and have Pixar do the western based animation. The opening of Sonic Unleashed says it all.
Documentation is so important It a LOT better than having 60 random people coming up and trying to show you what to do every time someone new gets onboarded
As someone who rigs 3D models and makes 3D models I gotta say, the worst part is when the client decides they want something changed after you finish rigging
u prolly just dont watch that many anime lol theres actually a lot in this film thats inspired of anime, for example their transformations into pandas is heavily inspired by the transformations in magical girls genre of anime
@@kiiroi.o And they also show up in fucking Kamen Rider which is Tokusatsu so what is your point again? Yeah they use Japanese tropes but the visual style looks so far from anime that most people thought it was generic western cartoon style when it came up. It sounds like you watched 2 animes and decided you where a Japanese animation expert.
Turning Red sucked ass, it's one of the few black eyes in Pixar's portfolio. From what I've seen, people that praise it are usually from the far left and/or people with "issues".
style guides are used for most animated movies, as well as video games and other visual media. they are usually internal-facing documents that are full of references to other media, noting what to pull from their styles and what to avoid.
Technical Artist here, any project in a professional capacity will require a mood board, style frame and style guide. Turning Red having one is nothing special. When your animation team is 40+, at that scale you’d have an individual style guide for each character’s animation alone. And that’s before we talk about style guides for storyboarding, modeling, texturing, lighting and fx.
Perfect example of how different styles require separate skill sets! Stylization vs realistic, eastern vs western, etc.! Makes me super happy to see this explained as an artist since most people assume it’s a one-and-done deal
That discord notification had me tweaking for like three minutes, I had to keep restarting the video because I was so distracted by checking my discord every time I heard it again
bro started the video 3 times in a row 😭
Foul
That’s what I was thinking
How the fuck did you know broooo 💀
having to extend the watch time on a SHORT is criminal
He had to up the watch time
Bro wrote 3 god damn thesis statements before starting his super short essay.
all to end up saying "they dont know to do dis but they study so now they know it :]"
@@CaptainPowow I swear dude. UA-cam shorts is peak brain rot.
@@sploog716brain rot is brain rot, there is no peak to it
I swear I thought I was hearing things 😂 this is when you need to hit the word count on an essay
Me when I have 400 words on the 500 word essay
Who’s gonna tell them that’s not anime? Star eyes and beads of sweat are quite universal…
this entire video could've been shortened to "they struggled with anime style animation because they were used to western animation"
Yeah buddy, but again, that's like 4 seconds long.
Based on that, you obviously don't know how the algorithm works.
@@Xentix00 they were just joking 😭 (I mean I hope they are)
@@Xentix00 The creator could have made that point and still made the video a minute long. Plus, it's literally just a statement, and hes just jokingly summarizing it up.
@@Xentix00 Wtf
@@nolantheaverage7564 Like I said.
Algorithm.
There’s certain things channels like these do that make videos they upload to viral. So all that “joking stuff” is just a little sprinkle.
I just want you to check how many views this single short has. Really think about it.
Dude wrote 3 openings to extend the time of a short 💀💀💀
Are we sure this is a dude? For someone who supposedly loves a craft, he doesn't understand the process very well. I bet it's a content farm.
@@SenshiSunPowerAs dumb as this video is, uneducated ≠ content farm
Thas what she sead
@@Makstutel??
@@Makstuteldoesn’t even make sense ??
Doesn’t every animated feature have a style guide
When you work with familiar styles, it’s easier to make one
Not exactly. A style guide and character sheets are quite different.
Yeah that’s how you keep the characters consistent
@JohnPaul-lv8ys Ohh ok
Yes, its a super common practice im all projects, specially essential for big teams
For the impatient ones:
They struggled with anime because that's what they wanted Turning Red to be based on.
They struggled with anime and turning red- they struggled with turning red because it was heavily based off of anime, which they were inexperienced in.They didn't struggle with anime bc of turning red, tho. /nm
@@Olivia-zl9dvCan you rephrase that?
“Thick moms” got me dying😂😂🤣🤣
" thick moms " 💀
Lol
Ain’t no way…
AIN'T NO WAY
She's ugly, don't fall for lust!
its gen z rn what do you expect
Turning red = anime
Comercial airliner = flying animal
ikr? Turning red literally has the calarts jellybean mouth
they said anime inspired so im imagining something closer to steven universe
@@Scoreos77thats not good
Turning Red is the worst Pixar movie in existence
Anime "inspired"
Thick moms got my dying 😂😂😂
okay i'm glad i'm not the only one here who's pressed about bro repeating himself like 3 times 💀💀💀
what he has 1 intro
They put the discord notification sound in there so you alt tab off and check through your servers trying to figure out where it came from. Meanwhile they hope you leave the video running and get multiple loops.
This should be a crime
Why watch yt shorts on ur pc 💀
@@UNSEENaverge cause it's better than my phone??
And I thought them writing 3 openings was scummy
Yeah
I didn’t know turning red was anime-inspired (edit) damn, I wasn’t to get that many likes, thanks
Goes to show they still kinda didn't lean into it all that much
@@Jack_Woodsas someone that watches anime it just still looks like pixar and the crazy thing is their is digitally drawn anime it's just not cgi but even then there are cgi anime that look good
Idk the movie just takes place in south Korea, my mom watches a lot of south Korean shows and they look like that
I think the main reason why it doesnt look “anime” enough is that pixar dont do anymore 2D animations. They now mostly use blenders and etc to make a rig for the character
@@UnConstant meanwhile new tri gun uses same thing and looks like anime as it should
their animation style is getting so unnecessarily soft
Every movie they make has a style guide tbf
don't ever use the discord notification sound.
god i hate when they do that
they do it so people comment, just like we are, for engagement. Because I do agree, its so fucking annoying
What’s wrong with it?? It’s just a sound
@@LowGoddwoah chill why’re u cussing
@@luvvamerist_155 cause its an annoying sound to hear when you're just trying to enjoy the content
*ThIcK mOmS*
Too Fr
Too Fr
Too fr
Too Fr
Ambato-😫**goes incognito**
why is nobody talking about how he said thick moms
Because it’s an overused joke, and his unintentional comedy in having three intros is way funnier.
Turning Red is anything but an anime
It’s not supposed to be anime just have pieces of the animation that are inspired by it like he mentioned in the video
That yoshi sound is my notification sound, tripped me up
Turning Red is more near a Cartoon Network show than an anime. Even if they said it is anime inspired.
Turning Red has the most personality out the other movies. Felt like a real group a teenage girls talking to each other! I hope Pixar goes more in that direction with their future work. ❤
“Pixar can animate toys and monsters and ✨ ThIcC mOmS ✨ “
"It's really hard to make a good movie, and yet they do it over, and over, and over again."
Well. They used to.
FACTS
I remember someone once saying the anime style was heavily discouraged at CalArts and the western animation industry for a really long time (it might’ve been Brian Lemay or Tony White), with the exception of Studio Ghibli. I guess it didn’t work out too well for them in the long run 😅
I don't think discouraging an anime style is really a bad thing, when studying art alot of people want to job to skip stylized work before they understand how to work from life. Working from life is important cause a style is an exaggerated variation of something that occurs in life. When art teachers discourage using a type of style it's not really out of hatred for the style but it's a different way of doing things that cuts corners of certain fundamentals. Learning a broad set of fundamentals equips artist with the ability to learn any style where as simply focusing on anime would probably limit an artist later on.
@@user-rq5wk2jv1d Yeah, I agree with that statement, but you don't hear that teachers and masters decry cartoonization like old newspaper strips or something akin to Jack Davis style. If you discourage one you have to do the same with the other.
That definitely made sense for before Akira in 1988 as anime was mostly non existent in the west before that point except for a couple of really popular anime shows like Astro Boy. It might of also been because of how adult anime was just as big in Japan as what it is now and was extremely frowned upon in the west as at the time animation in the west was perceived by the general population as a medium specifically for kids and family friendly content.
What do you mean “with the exception of studio Ghibli”? Ghibli is not western
@@JohnPaul-lv8ysI think they mean that despite being Japanese, studio Ghibli's art style wasn't discouraged like other media from there
Dang they say that they're not used to doing anime style but the fact that they pulled it off show their amazing talent.
Bro has a degree in yapping
Bro really needed that minute
diss liking every fake discord audio
I thought i was the only one who hates this
giving them more engagement pepega
Why is bro voicing this from the next room over 😭😭💀💀
They actually just had the animators watch 1/4 of one piece and then they knew every single stereotypical trope found in anime 😂
I hate when it sound like notification. I dont know if it is real of not.
The fuckwad keeps playing discord notification sounds to make people re watch the video.
Agreed, I keep glancing at my other monitor. I dont know why they have it?
@@thegreatestbaryonyx6107 I don't know too.
@@thegreatestbaryonyx6107 They do that so that you comment and complain about it which gives them more engagment in the algorithim. It's all a dirty trick
@@CosmicMaanz That and so you watch it multiple times while you check notifications
“Good movie” haven’t heard that from Disney in years
Most boring reply geos to = @@macledisgan
@@macledisganNPC ahh response
@@macledisganIt’s true though, Disney is flopping
And why say Turning Red was a good movie…
That was an ass movie!
@@pailcreeperit wasn’t a masterpiece but I wouldn’t say it was ass
The style guide is use in every single animated movie. It’s to keep characters on model.
“And thick moms”
*shows Ms incredible*
That’s wild 💀
I feel like this short could've used more sound effects tbh
But why does he use the discord sound fr
Creator
Average lankybox short
It's interesting that Turning Red was intentionally stylized as anime. Although that is not the work of the "animators". Those decisions start from the very beggining. A sweat drop must be in the storyboard, and probably animated by a VFX artist. A production is much more complex than saying that everything is "animated" by "animators", there's a lot more depth.
Bro thought he could sneak that in😭
“And thick moms”💀
Theres no way animation lovers didnt watch anime at least once
Probably hadn't studied the style though, since CalArts has heavily discouraged anime styles in the past
I had ex Disney animator teaching when I was in college they are very set in their ways I imagine Pixar is similar
Idk, a few years ago (2017-ish), I remember Disney being the big thing for most animation students and the divide between anime watchers and them being very defined, disney peps either looking down on anime or avoiding it all together... Now the trend seems to have changed, I have seen the newer generation of animation students being more into anime (and open to more styles) with the ones that reject it becoming more of a minority, I would credit the fact that it has become not only more accessible and easier to consume thanks to streaming platforms, its has become more normalised due to globalization, which certainly played a role.
king of yapping. TL;DW, they struggle with an anime style animation due to their experience with western style animation
Who else was looking for someone to mention the thick moms
"thicc moms" had me dead
Curious. I dunno if it's because México loves anime, but all my friends who studied for animation always practiced both western and Japanese ever since they were little kids, and I always thought all animators did this. Kinda like meeting a mechanic that didn't touch a car growing up.
"Thick Moms" 💀☠️
💀💀☠️💀
Some Reason when I saw it I got Hard💀
That discord notification got me so confused 💀💀
TURNING RED WAS INSPIRED BY ANIME.
WoAH 🤯 *mind blowing *😮
it wasn't
It was specifically inspired by Studio Ghibli
"And thick moms"
-Animator Hustle
The literal concept art in turning red is amazing wtf?!?!
We love it when the sound effects are 10,000x louder than the voiceover 🤤🤤🤤
Pixar moms:💀
If Disney wants to make anime inspired 3d animation, they should hire Marza animation for that and have Pixar do the western based animation. The opening of Sonic Unleashed says it all.
I'd say Lupin III: The First is a better example
@@PercyPanleo Or Sandland
I think they always wanted thick moms on their movie
God: "what kind of mom do you want?"
Him: "thicc"
I dont believe any calarts grad has ever not seen anime
Watching something and studying it's style are two separate things
The animators were inspired by Disney and western animation’s struggled with anime style animation: saved you 3 separate intros
“And thick moms.” 💀
“A really good movie” ☠️
Lol
I think it was
@@sallytheuselessbirdnah
@@sallytheuselessbird It was horrible. Basically as bad as it could have been.
@@MetallicReg probably cuz u like wars and stuff and hate anything girly
Turning red is such a good movie glad they could do the animation well
Bro got me at "thick moms"
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
“Thick moms” is crazy💀
Meanwhile dreamworks making mmovies that are really beautiful
Except MegaMind 2
@@creepergalastic7183we dont talk about that
The misspelling of movies was a inside job
Some of them. Puss in Boots: The Last Wish is a masterpiece. Kung Fu Panda 4, not so much.
Not really….. I mean, mega mind 2.. kun fu panda 4… trolls…
They have also been experimenting with making trash
Documentation is so important
It a LOT better than having 60 random people coming up and trying to show you what to do every time someone new gets onboarded
Track 15 and 18 give me chills. They cooked so much
Why the discord sound effect wtf for
I came here to comment this.
It's enough for me to hit "don't recommend this channel" and hopefully others won't see this video too
@@stevenr4Bro is overreacting
it's so people will comment about it, engagement farming
Turning red gets to much hate
It deserves it, very very subpar. Animation was great story felt like a generic coming of age with a bit of quirkiness
I really liked it
My opinion it isn’t very good it’s just stuff happening.
@@mohammadislam2324 i think it's great and heavily depicts the struggles of kid due to high asian expectations.. Source? Im asian
@@mohammadislam2324its not bad.
I wish they made Disney games as well
My uncle worked for Disney.
All animated movies have style guides. False facts plus restarting a short 3 times to up the watch time is criminal.
Weeb artists: You couldn't live with your failure, and where did that bring you? back to me...
Instead of going through a few minutes of dialogue, the movie they struggled with was turning red
As someone who rigs 3D models and makes 3D models I gotta say, the worst part is when the client decides they want something changed after you finish rigging
Thicc moms is os funny
i could not think of a movie that looks less inspired by anime than turning red, the only "anime" thing that movie has was asian people
Lmao 💀💀💀
u prolly just dont watch that many anime lol
theres actually a lot in this film thats inspired of anime, for example their transformations into pandas is heavily inspired by the transformations in magical girls genre of anime
@@kiiroi.o That has more to do with Japanese fantasy tropes and less with actual Japanese animation. Not a very good example
@@Goofballhero well those tropes are usually applied to anime so
@@kiiroi.o And they also show up in fucking Kamen Rider which is Tokusatsu so what is your point again? Yeah they use Japanese tropes but the visual style looks so far from anime that most people thought it was generic western cartoon style when it came up. It sounds like you watched 2 animes and decided you where a Japanese animation expert.
I don't want Disney & Pixar to separate
i’m glad they were able to make the movie in the end 😁
Mid movie but great animation
Wouldn’t calling turning red “really great”
Well the animation was really great at least.
“And thick mums!”💀💀💀
*_"THICCC MOMS!"_*
HELL YEAH, SON! 😅🤣😎👍🏻 love pixar! Classic stuff!
That movie was not great 😭
Yeah, even my younger sister agrees it was cringy af
It was great what you smoking?
@@enchantedlightbringerthe better question is what are you smoking because you’re shit is obviously stronger
@@enchantedlightbringer Truth
Turning Red sucked ass, it's one of the few black eyes in Pixar's portfolio.
From what I've seen, people that praise it are usually from the far left and/or people with "issues".
And they can animate thick mods💀💀💀
"And thicc moms" fr😍
I love that movie. One of their recent launches that gave me joy. I have watched it more than thrice with my family
Bro started the video until the end 💀
You should say “ did “ make good movies 💀🙏
It’s funny how Disney help Tezuka create the anime art style
style guides are used for most animated movies, as well as video games and other visual media. they are usually internal-facing documents that are full of references to other media, noting what to pull from their styles and what to avoid.
Technical Artist here, any project in a professional capacity will require a mood board, style frame and style guide. Turning Red having one is nothing special. When your animation team is 40+, at that scale you’d have an individual style guide for each character’s animation alone. And that’s before we talk about style guides for storyboarding, modeling, texturing, lighting and fx.
Perfect example of how different styles require separate skill sets! Stylization vs realistic, eastern vs western, etc.! Makes me super happy to see this explained as an artist since most people assume it’s a one-and-done deal
(me subtly glances over at the Mother’s Day episode of The Simpsons) yeah I wonder what animation style they struggle in
He knew what he was saying with “thick moms”
That discord notification had me tweaking for like three minutes, I had to keep restarting the video because I was so distracted by checking my discord every time I heard it again
Literally every animated project has a style guide, dude lmao
This is the first time I'm hearing that Turning Red was supposed to be anime themed.
Looks like they could take a lesson from DreamWorks 'the bad guys' they pulled the style off perfectly
Pixar moms be like💀