In defense of Lia, ITZY is overall a very dance/choreography heavy group and every member (besides Lia) is an incredible dancer but this doesn't make Lia a bad dancer, she's just average with very good dancers around so she's nitpicked a lot for the dancing
The sulli one makes me so sick, all that hate that started from the moment she debuted makes me so sad. She’s no longer with us, it makes me so sad how mean people can be and I’ll never forgive the people who went over the line. ☹️
Exactly. And still, people never learn. No wonder so many idols have anxiety, when any mistake is blown up and made into a scandal. Nobody can be perfect 100% of the time no matter how hard they try. And nobody knows what's going on behind the scenes. Hate is just uncalled for.
Give Lia a break, shes, not a bad dancer shes is actually a good dancer, the thing is the rest of the members are excellent dancers and shes a good dancer, so since she doesn't dance the best doesn't mean she cant dance good
EXACTLY 👏👏👏and it’s okay especially after the other members were professionally trained for dance and only Lia was professionally trained for vocals. The fact that she’s able to keep up with her members, blend in, and adapt to the choreography is good enough, even though she’s not as good as the others
I remember back in 2014 to 2016, a day couldn't go by without seeing an article written about Sulli where she was being trashed for all sorts of things. If there was ever an idol who was driven to the grave by fans it's her.
Tw: Opinions Okay hear me out. The first Jennie lazy scandal was just stupid like she had a broken ankle, but in the born pink tour, she had no excuses. They had a two year hiatus and she is doing literally the bare minimum. She can give a great performance when she wants to but if she doesn’t feel like it she will give barely energy and the bare minimum. Blinks claim she is a stage presence queen but honestly that is far from reality. Honestly i just think she doesn’t want to be an idol anymore. I love jennie and i really dont mean any bad things towards her but this is just what I’ve noticed in the performances ive watched
I'm totally disagree with you. This have many excuses and people like you need to stop judge if you doesn't know anything. 1. Blackpink in this 2 years as a group had a hiatus but they didn't have a vacation how you all think. Rose in 2021 debuted solo with 2MVs , Lisa debuted solo`with 2 MVs and had a collaboration. Jisoo debuted as actress in 2022. Jennie filmed as actress in THE IDOL. In 2022 Jisoo prepared for her solo. BP worked solo and a long time they were separated of course that they will not synchronized plus the choreography was changed and they prepared for the new album and comeback just in a few months. They had little time at their disposal and had to work silently, like they learned Shut down choreography at the footage of the MV and didn't sleep at all last days before tour. They also worked with Ryan Tedder(famous producer) for a new album. Ryan Tedder said that he write one of their song and others Bp, but yg didn't let them to put them in their album. They worked a lot. And their comeback was prepared just in a few months, and they wasn't prepared for tour but yg was close to bankruptcy. And mistakes was not that much, just in first days. Also got other injuries when she was filmed in the idol. Jennie is the most hated idol since 2018 this can make her to feel bad and insecure and that hate and criticize make her to being unhappy on stage.
I didn't follow up much about the born pink tour, but I can definitely say that Blackpink didn't practice enough as a group and not just Jennie. I have heard that each member were more focused on their solo work than work as an idol group during their hiatus. Because of that, they wouldn't be able to meet up as much, resulting in poor synchronization on stage. It's more like the management's fault for not clearing enough time for the idols to practice together. Idols aren't super humans either which means that they can't perfectionate each choreography immediately. You may criticize Jennie, but this lack of synchronization can also be applied to all members
OK for a lifetime hiatus means you do not do anything at all. She sits at home and doing nothing that entire hiatus at them. I didn’t have you not seen the video saying that she is sick. She has been sick since last year, yet she still been performing for us, so ungrateful.
About jennie. "She's hurt. She got bad stamina. Shes sick" are good excuses for one or another days but during born pink was impossible to defend her. She was lacking so much even in comparative with jisoo(how is known as the weakness in dance). Was painful to watch her dance side to side with lisa
I agree. Some blinks really need to accept the reality. Jennie is powerful and great at both dancing and singing but during the Born Pink concert, it felt like she was not giving all her efforts. The excuse about " it's hard to sing live while dancing " is so outdated, like why don't you take a look at ITZY, NMIXX, and other groups?
Hi there, I attended their night 2 Chicago show for born pink. Jennie was on fire all night long. She gave the best energy of the night, which surprised me because Lisa always puts on a show. I understand clips go viral on social media, but as someone who attended a full length blackpink concert, I can attest to her stage presence. She does experience chronic pain and has explained some days are more difficult than others. she often pushes herself to perform unwell.
I like how they call it "lazy dancing" but i call it "being tired" As a wise kpop idol said "Who isnt even tired in this world?" -Seungmin(i dont remember the date at all)
The amount of times I see people calling Giselle a dozen. I get so annoyed. But her number one criticism Is the video of her dancing and lipsyncing the N word. Which she apologized for and never did it again, but it's still Brought up in fanwars, Like we're talking about something else why bring this up? Also some other idols don't get attacked for doing the same thing and NOT apologizing. :(
Netizens really need to learn difference between just not being an amazing dancer and being lazy, as well as learn to see all the ways idols cannot perform some moves because of their hair or their outfits or their health issues sometimes
That was 3 years ago. Change your tune. She was absolutely fine and gave her all at coachella but sucked 3 days later at her own concert. Same for bst Hyde park. Perfect performance but right before and after she was a shit show. Open your eyes
if only these haters would stop nitpicking every little bit of idol’s lives. sulli, we miss you a lot and i hope that her story can show people what really happens behind the scenes in idol life and why we should NEVER take things too far when hating let alone bring hate to others in general❤
I don't want to defend blackpink, and i will not. But we don't know what happened for them to dance like that. The rest of the tour was fire from the video that i see. So the question is not if they are lazy or not, but what happened for this mess to happen? Like we all know that blackpink are amazing performers, so this thing makes no sense. I'm rather confused than angry, but i can understand why, the people that went to see them, are. As for the others, they're not lazy dancers, just people always need to pick on someone in the group to show that it isn't perfect. -_-
I've heard from the Born Pink concert. As you said, it's quite confusing as to how they sort of "deteriorated" (?) during the concert. They eventually are able to catch up and stabilize. I'm not sure if there was anything that has to do with their schedule, but I think, like many have said, that they should've practiced more before holding the concert considering how long it's been since they last held activities together as a group. Each of them, from what I remember from their hiatus as a group, look like they've been doing a lot of individual activities so without enough practice during the hiatus, I don't think they can synch well... All to say, I think Blackpink may need to practice more until they are sure they can synch with each other well on stage
i feel like idols CAN be lazy, and thats ok. In defense, k-pop idols go through SO much, they are overworked to the extreme. Especially if they are popular. Usually some idols only debut for their visuals, not their skills. So its hard.
You’re allowed to be lazy, but not when it’s your job. It’s extremely disrespectful to fans who saved up so much money for tickets when you don’t try your best to perform for them. Why don’t you go ahead and be lazy at your job. No one will be surprised if you get fired for being lazy and still expecting to get paid.
I feel bad for sulli alot like she got so much backlash I have seen so many videos about 'lazy bance titles, body shaming, and etc and sulli was almost each and every video I feel so bad like how much she got hate why can't people realized by there mistakes there backlash has taken someone's life and they all still continue to do it with others ain't they feel bad are they monsters or what
Hasn’t anyone noticed that there is only female idols being hated for this??? Shows u how crazy stans are get a life and stop hating on successful women
same thing when discussing stage presence there are male idols who have 0 stage presence but they get coddled by kpop fans, and no one ever brings it up, and if one brave fan criticizes these male idols then these fans get overly defensive. sometimes I wonder whether boygroup fans are overly defensive or girl group fans don't do enough to defend their faves.
They are lazy. And that's okay. Sometimes people phone in a performance, like anyone does at their job. It doesn't make them bad people or bad idols or unworthy of our love and attention, but sometimes they get lazy! They aren't lazy all the time - it's like there's no room for nuance in kpop. They're either perfect or terrible. If lazy is the worst thing we can call them occasionally, they're doing just fine.
to a degree yes. But the occasional practice session is your chance to be lazy, on the night of a performance you should be giving 100%, no excuses. Or maybe we cut them some slack and say 90%. Maybe they don't have the energy to put on a show in every live stream and every variety show. But I think you can expect them to put in the full effort for the stage. Unless the schedule/tour is too overbooked but thats another issue, not "laziness". This isn't just an idol thing. Many musicians get dragged if they put on a lazy performance. Look up "frank ocean coachella" if you want a recent high profile example, but its not rare. Fans travel from around the world and spend hundreds or thousands of dollars to see musicians when they go on tour. It really isnt the time to phone in a performance. Fans dont want to roll the dice when they spend their own money attending the show "I hope they can be bothered putting on a decent performance today". It is the artists obligation not to overbook or overwork themselves to the point of putting on a bad performance- the audience cant control that only the artist can. If we wanna compare it to normal jobs, if someone paid you to paint their house but you do a completely shit job "I was tired, I already painted 3 other houses today" is not an excuse. Dont accept a job you cant do. If you are working some office job for example and drastically fail to meet a deadline, "sorry Boss, I felt like phoning this one in" is not an excuse. In the week you had to work on the task you can be lazy at multiple points, I'm not saying you should work 24/7. But when it comes to the final product, failing to deliver it not acceptable. You say its like everyone does at their job, if you fail to deliver your main responsibility at most jobs, you are gonna be let go. Compare it to school, sure you can be lazy and take an afternoon off studying, everyone does that. But there are certain times when you cannot phone it in. You would never just phone it in for an exam. Doesn't matter the circumstances, those are a few hours where being lazy is just a no go. Same for concerts. I don't know why that would be hard to understand.
ngl some idols are just not made out to be good dancers, simple as that. I know idols are meant to be all rounders, but realistically how is that possible?
No Arguments .....I went To Blackpink's Newark Concert . They were on FIRE especially JENNIE. Not a Single Moment of Laziness considering they did 14 concerts in 25 days and they sing live 90% of the time. So, Discussing these 1st Day Mistakes again n again won't gonna Change the Fact that Whole Tour Has been Amazing.
For Blackpink's 1st Day if u look at it Humanly the main reason of that some seconds mistakes comes out to be: * Nervousness as Normal Humans. I saw there BPM of Seoul Concert, they were Nervous on 1st day which is Normal for a Group Performing Live concert after 2.5 Years in front of 20k people. * 2ndly Change in Choreography. When i went to Their Concert, i noticed they Entirely changed Choreos of songs like Crazy over u and others, which can Get them to Become Confuse as Humans. * Let's be Honest, i think BP r not the 1st group who committed Mistakes In Concert but the Hate They got for those Seconds was Very Inhumane.
So after they made 6000 mistakes and even made a mistake in their last day on tour how do you excuse this? Actually it was only jennie but still. Just stop treating idols like babies
@@BTS_JUNGKOOK_97 Stop treating them like robots. Anyone can get tired or confused. If you know anything about tours, you'd know it's normal. The first few shows are always a bit weaker because everyone's rusty, and the end of a tour is weak because people get exhausted. I feel like this is not understood in kpop. Live shows equal completely normal human mistakes. In western pop music, a mistake on stage is funny and gets a laugh even from the artist themselves, but when a kpop idol does it they get crucified and can never live it down.
wonyoung seems tired, not lazy. she seems to be avoiding dizziness. if you barely sleep while on a diet and your performances require so much energy, i dont think you can do a hairflip without falling right after.
I feel like Lia's stamina has deteriorated bc they made her diet too much. Like she lost so much weight compared to her debut days. Maybe it's affecting her dance performances 🤧🥲
Jennie is a good performer but she IS lazy. Sometimes she will outperform everyone including Lisa and sometimes she will act as is she never danced in her life before.
I tought the same before but now watching bp documentary film I understand a lot about her. She said in bp documentary that she quickly gets tired and she feel like a grandma and that make her feel bad and guilty. You just don't know the truth so please don't judge her
I'm wondering if she has some chronic illness she's never been public about. Would honestly make a lot of sense. Like anemia or fibromyalgia or exhaustion (with anxiety added on top). There's so many things that could be happening behind the scenes that we don't know about.
@@thespankmyfrankthen it’s on her for not speaking up about her illness. She’s choosing not to talk and to let people deduce that she’s lazy. She made her choice
No she is just IT GIRL, she is THE MOST INFLUENCIAL f.aidol in k pop, people always critice her because she is popular and succesful, of course ppl will always be with their eyes on her. Obout others f.idols nobody care cuse they are not like Jennie, pretty, unique, charismatic, talanted, succesfyl, popular. SUCCESFUL IDOLS ARE ALWAYS THE MOST HATED.
Jennie has the lowest stamina out of the four members of her group so she needs to blend and rest for a couple of secs during long hours of dance and singing. As of the ankle injury, the ankle is really fragile so once you break it, it's hard to continue in the same way as you are during your prime. I can only say A for putting up with all the hate and still trying to deliver her best for the fans despite how problematic her body can cause her
So true. Other girls in the video are not lazy dancing they’re just not as good as the other members but we all know how good jenny dances she just doesn’t try anymore.
Nah y’all never listen she has low stamina and acc. To me (which had a ankle injury) it’s really fragile after that and pretty much never heals like at all it’s still hurts sometimes Also y’all be judging for 2 second clips MAX
All of the "lazy" idols has reason why they dont do the dance right but wonyoung had neck problems because of her forced diet at love dive amd after like era she was so weak and her bones were weak because od the diet and she dont want to flip her hair because she could break her neck
Then maybe you should rethink your values. Supporting her NO MATTER WHAT is of no use to her. She needs to hear constructive criticism and improve on her weakness, like every human being on this planet is doing. Like when your parents criticise something you did so you can improve, or your teacher or your boss. That’s how we grow as human being. Supporting her no matter what is useless and stupid. And she’ll never grow when fans like you believe she can do no wrong.
Hey im not fan of Itzy but I know them and having 5 member group with 4 members has dancing positions its not fair to judge her cuz that is the justice of their role of the group.
Im sorry but Jennie has way too many clips where she doesnt do her best. She's wayyy too inconsistent and hasnt been consistently good on stage since like 2017. Its honestly disrespectful to those who always work hard and all the lesser known groups who always give their 100%. She's only able to perform like that because BP are so popular.
Dude Don't u think people r literally becoming Inhumane in k-pop? Everybody knows Jennie looses Breath Easily+ 7 Ankle Surgeries ( i had only 1 and it still Swells today also if i put Constant Pressure on My ankle, they r Kind of Incurable) I mean For Jennie she has low Stamina, so u will Definitely get a Segment of 5-6 seconds in 2 hours performance where she's taking rest, Crop it then Compile it and Generate Hate For her and Earn Money from her Name. Simple🤷
I feel so bad for all of the dancers that are cubby Collins lazy that’s just stupid you know all of the people who are saying that the dancers are lazy or dumb ugly and or did you have no brain because sometimes people can be dealing through stuff that’s worse or than the words😢
Every single time I see that Blackpink clip where Rosé does the absolute least when she’s supposed to do a body roll gives me secondhand embarrassment for real. I feel worse for the people who bought tickets to that show.
honestly its not even jennies fault she got an ankle injury she still tries her hardest to keep up and even if she does have "lazy dancing"(I don't think she does I love her dancing) it doesn't even matter because she still has the strength to dance after sustaining injuries.
@@Horrorluvverr no she definitely should’ve. if you had an injury she should’ve just went on hiatus. even after her injury was healed she kept on being lazy
For Giselle, look at her dance practice for DRAMA. Her skills improved a lot. Her dancing in this era is so darn clean, I almost can't believe that's Giselle dancing. And for Jennie, the first criticism might be baseless but the way she still inconsistent with her dancing clearly shows a lack for passion there. It's like she is tired being an Idol.
I have a healthy issue that makes me loose my balance easily, I can't zhJe my head or flip my hair without getting dizzy and bad, maybe wony have some similar issue, I dont think its bad or a crime not flip the hair during thedance
I think it is perfectly okay to "be lazy" dancing when you are trying to keep your outfit intact(keep on shoes, keep on loose accessories) , trying to sing on top of dancing (this takes so much stamina for even 1 song, imagine a 2hour concert). "they are lip syncing" okay I want you to dance while lip syncing a 3minute song right now and tell me how well you did. Did you mouth perfectly? Did you go all the way to the floor, get back up, hit that kick, pivot, step, walk, walk, walk, kick, heel ball change while maintaining a pretty face , and your hair is presentable? Are you ready to do it another 7 times? If you answered yes, then you're probably a professional dancer or should apply to be one or the alternative a liar...imagine lying to people on the internet :(
“Lack of stamina” and “ankle injury” are such poor excuses. There are literally idols who performed sitting in a chair because they broke their leg (like Wheein from Mamamoo) but they still gave a great performance with their vocals, facial expressions, etc. You can do smaller movements to accommodate for illness and injury, but still give effort where you’re able like with your facial expressions. Jennie was just completely deadpan.
Two things: Jenny is an amazing performer… if she wants to be. If I didn’t want to give 100% at work, I’d be fired… Wonyoung: She won’t move her head cause she doesn’t want to mess up her hair. That’s also the reason why she’s seen constantly fixing her hair on stage mid performance which I personally find very annoying, but I’m generally not a fan of her as a performer, so that might be it…
@@buddies6389 she didn’t. It’s an assumption based on the fact that she’s constantly fixing her hair. Someone worried about their hair wouldn’t purposely flip her hair around, wouldn’t day? Also, to me that doesn’t make her a bad performer, yet, kinda interrupts the performance for me? I guess that really is personal preference, tho.
@@buddies6389 I should not have phrased it like a statement, I apologise. And I came to the conclusion as I used to be a performer and got people in my friend circle who still work in that field. Some of the ladies refuse to do some dance moves as it would mess up their hair, so it’s a common phenomenon among female performers. So, I assumed that this might be the case for Wonyoung…
These people really think idols are robots who have to work 100% every time. I really want these people to walk through a trainee time for at least 3 months. Let's see what they have to say then🙄
I Itzy Lia That shoulder dance I think it’s making her down but but she must think that group because Justin showed the dance and that’s been need see let’s eat sea Itzy Lia put on more effort and speed is it called energetics
People who are saying this should try doing the dances in groups so they can actually know how hard it is since sometimes they have a short deadline or a really hard coreagrophy
A lot of these are ridiculous but there as some cases where it is clear to see that these idols are slacking off and there will never be an excuse for that bc it is their job at the end of the day.
let's keep in mind that their "job" isn't a 9-5 but can demand up to 24 hours of their day sometimes. they may feel too tired to dance their best but exert enough effort to still perform despite the low energy they get from diet and poor sleeping schedules.
@@francinev3971 True, I have no doubt it is exhausting and sometimes they can't give 100% but I do consider it a problem when an idol consistently performs lazy because at the end of the day it is a job and like any other profession you are being paid (millions in their case) to do it well.
Nah Jennie is just lazy. Fans can use ‘health and injury’ excuses all they want, but all it does it make it seem like she has absolutely no business being an idol. If she’s ALWAYS sick or can’t heal from an injury and can’t put on a good performance because of that, she needs to get off the damn stage. “She has less stamina” ok than why the hell is she in the most physically taxing career she could have possibly chosen?
She just acts like it still hurts when a injury which she got is already healed. She only acts like it bc her fans will tell people thats its her ankle when its not its just her lazy dance
Just let the haters become an idol then. Just to feel how tired is it, and feeling so much hate speech, and have hard schedule there, how though just even to breathe..
For Jennie : Are the haters gonna be able to dance with an Broken ankle . And the stage presence she gives is The BEST , And jennie once said “ don’t believe the social media “ because by one clip you dont know how she danced in the 2 hour concert She is a QUEEN
There's a line between LAZY and NOT GOOD. If you're lazy just because you want it too. But if you're not good, no matter how many you try, you'll always left behind.
In defense of all those K-pop idols who were named lazy or less dancing skills , why don’t u try being a K-pop idol for a week and see it ur self ,none of them are lazy and they are all skillful so please don’t hate on them u don’t know what they are going through
Sometimes moving your head like that can cause you to faint if you have certain health issues. It doesn’t make Wonyoung lazy. Maybe she got told not to do it for health reasons or for keeping her hair intact. So nitpicky I swear.
The only weak one is Jennie, when she wants she dances incredible and with a lot of energy and with an incredible presence but on her Born Pink tour it was a miracle that you got Jennie with all that.
Jennie Blackpink would have been lazy in 2022. In 2023 she has consistency because there is no more lazy clips of her in 2023. She is always singing live + Energy in dance. Jennie sp in 2023 is great.
To be honest, Jennie surprised me a lot, i noticed her injuries/mistakes too, but now im so happy for her for having the courage to have her own company and to be releasing songs
if she can't keep up with being an idol then why the hell did she establish her own company she doesn't deserve it is she isn't going to be lazy on stage
About Lia. She's a good dancer but the others members of the group are just so much better than her. Shes trying but is not enough to keep up with ryujin of example
The thing is Dont you think they are exhausted from Dancing all day i dont find them lazy or a bad dancer they can dance better than me they are tired so they dont give much energy
In defense of Lia, ITZY is overall a very dance/choreography heavy group and every member (besides Lia) is an incredible dancer but this doesn't make Lia a bad dancer, she's just average with very good dancers around so she's nitpicked a lot for the dancing
FOR REAL!
She's not even avarage bro, she could be a lead in other groups. It's just tht she's in a group where everyone can become a main dancer
I never thought about that
she can out itzy and go to other group😅
@@deep_teaa she is average bro….
The sulli one makes me so sick, all that hate that started from the moment she debuted makes me so sad. She’s no longer with us, it makes me so sad how mean people can be and I’ll never forgive the people who went over the line. ☹️
Exactly. And still, people never learn. No wonder so many idols have anxiety, when any mistake is blown up and made into a scandal. Nobody can be perfect 100% of the time no matter how hard they try. And nobody knows what's going on behind the scenes. Hate is just uncalled for.
I swear, and when she died they said they were sorry. Sorry for what? They already killed her
Give Lia a break, shes, not a bad dancer shes is actually a good dancer, the thing is the rest of the members are excellent dancers and shes a good dancer, so since she doesn't dance the best doesn't mean she cant dance good
It's not even that. She was training in a different dance style up until the company decided to put her in Itzy. They even came out and said so.
I KNOW THANK YOU GUYS 4 SAYING THAT!!!!
EXACTLY 👏👏👏and it’s okay especially after the other members were professionally trained for dance and only Lia was professionally trained for vocals. The fact that she’s able to keep up with her members, blend in, and adapt to the choreography is good enough, even though she’s not as good as the others
Sulli, we miss you sm, and we will never forgive those that took you from us.
It’s always the “____ didn’t whip their hair so they’re lAZyyy.” Y’all when they have intricate hair styles, they don’t want to mess it up???
They don't know but maybe they just don't want to ruin their hair style
I remember back in 2014 to 2016, a day couldn't go by without seeing an article written about Sulli where she was being trashed for all sorts of things.
If there was ever an idol who was driven to the grave by fans it's her.
lia is a good dancer she’s just in a groupe full of pro dancers
Ya she could be the main dancer in any other group😭😭😭
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Okay hear me out. The first Jennie lazy scandal was just stupid like she had a broken ankle, but in the born pink tour, she had no excuses. They had a two year hiatus and she is doing literally the bare minimum. She can give a great performance when she wants to but if she doesn’t feel like it she will give barely energy and the bare minimum. Blinks claim she is a stage presence queen but honestly that is far from reality. Honestly i just think she doesn’t want to be an idol anymore. I love jennie and i really dont mean any bad things towards her but this is just what I’ve noticed in the performances ive watched
I'm totally disagree with you. This have many excuses and people like you need to stop judge if you doesn't know anything.
1. Blackpink in this 2 years as a group had a hiatus but they didn't have a vacation how you all think. Rose in 2021 debuted solo with 2MVs , Lisa debuted solo`with 2 MVs and had a collaboration. Jisoo debuted as actress in 2022. Jennie filmed as actress in THE IDOL. In 2022 Jisoo prepared for her solo. BP worked solo and a long time they were separated of course that they will not synchronized plus the choreography was changed and they prepared for the new album and comeback just in a few months. They had little time at their disposal and had to work silently, like they learned Shut down choreography at the footage of the MV and didn't sleep at all last days before tour. They also worked with Ryan Tedder(famous producer) for a new album. Ryan Tedder said that he write one of their song and others Bp, but yg didn't let them to put them in their album. They worked a lot. And their comeback was prepared just in a few months, and they wasn't prepared for tour but yg was close to bankruptcy. And mistakes was not that much, just in first days. Also got other injuries when she was filmed in the idol.
Jennie is the most hated idol since 2018 this can make her to feel bad and insecure and that hate and criticize make her to being unhappy on stage.
I didn't follow up much about the born pink tour, but I can definitely say that Blackpink didn't practice enough as a group and not just Jennie. I have heard that each member were more focused on their solo work than work as an idol group during their hiatus. Because of that, they wouldn't be able to meet up as much, resulting in poor synchronization on stage. It's more like the management's fault for not clearing enough time for the idols to practice together. Idols aren't super humans either which means that they can't perfectionate each choreography immediately. You may criticize Jennie, but this lack of synchronization can also be applied to all members
@@nastasnastas7944 so true! I feel really bad for Jennie😢 but somehow she still manages to be beautiful, talented and amazing ❤
@@nastasnastas7944 yg was close to bankruptcy and they yet made the most expensive set for pink venom.
OK for a lifetime hiatus means you do not do anything at all. She sits at home and doing nothing that entire hiatus at them. I didn’t have you not seen the video saying that she is sick. She has been sick since last year, yet she still been performing for us, so ungrateful.
About jennie. "She's hurt. She got bad stamina. Shes sick" are good excuses for one or another days but during born pink was impossible to defend her. She was lacking so much even in comparative with jisoo(how is known as the weakness in dance). Was painful to watch her dance side to side with lisa
I agree. Some blinks really need to accept the reality. Jennie is powerful and great at both dancing and singing but during the Born Pink concert, it felt like she was not giving all her efforts. The excuse about " it's hard to sing live while dancing " is so outdated, like why don't you take a look at ITZY, NMIXX, and other groups?
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Bruh your talking based on 5sec clips. She had great energy through out the stage but y'all never blink.
Hi there, I attended their night 2 Chicago show for born pink. Jennie was on fire all night long. She gave the best energy of the night, which surprised me because Lisa always puts on a show. I understand clips go viral on social media, but as someone who attended a full length blackpink concert, I can attest to her stage presence. She does experience chronic pain and has explained some days are more difficult than others. she often pushes herself to perform unwell.
I like how they call it "lazy dancing" but i call it "being tired"
As a wise kpop idol said
"Who isnt even tired in this world?"
-Seungmin(i dont remember the date at all)
Legendary. Wise words from our amazing, show stopping, unique, never been done before, different, spectacular judge, Seungmin
real , some people just want every kpop idol to be "perfect" when we can't be perfect at all?
@@hotokemochii ikr, why do they expect them to be perfect when we aren't perfect at all? Nobodies perfect they always have one or more flaws
@@udontknowme3944 yas
8:01 Wonyoung had like 6 mins to change when she was mc cause she had to talk right after that performance
wut are u even talking about
Its wonyoung. Not wooyoung. Wooyoung is a member of ateez😅😅
@@253ibrahim sorryyyyy
@@253ibrahim i changed it, TYSMMMMM
I never saw cyber bullying with my eyes until I got to know Jennie and Giselle... people got no life
The amount of times I see people calling Giselle a dozen. I get so annoyed. But her number one criticism Is the video of her dancing and lipsyncing the N word. Which she apologized for and never did it again, but it's still Brought up in fanwars, Like we're talking about something else why bring this up? Also some other idols don't get attacked for doing the same thing and NOT apologizing. :(
@@frz3rbRnotaku1if she did say the n word she would get hate too I know that people just love to target Giselle
Im wo proud of Shuhua, she improved so much❤😊
Yes!
Netizens really need to learn difference between just not being an amazing dancer and being lazy, as well as learn to see all the ways idols cannot perform some moves because of their hair or their outfits or their health issues sometimes
The words "LATE" & "SULLI" feels like it should not go together. But nothing can be done now.
Imagine if u break ur ankle and someone calls u lazy and hates u
That was 3 years ago. Change your tune. She was absolutely fine and gave her all at coachella but sucked 3 days later at her own concert. Same for bst Hyde park. Perfect performance but right before and after she was a shit show. Open your eyes
seriously the comments on jennies instagram are awful 😭
she should disable her insta comments fr :( i hope she's okay
Agree. These comments are awful 😢 I hope Jennie is okay
jennie is lazy accept it
@@Tanishi_327 if she is lazy, then I'm a sloth 😅😅
@@Little.Janette good to know that you are self aware
Fact : It always been female idols wo get any type of criticism to head to toe _ _
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Name one male idol that has given a bad performance or been lazy.
@@leavemealone322 IDK....🙂 do you ?
@@pummykumari7729 I can't either because male idols never give bad performances
@@leavemealone322 wow you're such a pick me😐
if only these haters would stop nitpicking every little bit of idol’s lives. sulli, we miss you a lot and i hope that her story can show people what really happens behind the scenes in idol life and why we should NEVER take things too far when hating let alone bring hate to others in general❤
I don't want to defend blackpink, and i will not. But we don't know what happened for them to dance like that. The rest of the tour was fire from the video that i see. So the question is not if they are lazy or not, but what happened for this mess to happen? Like we all know that blackpink are amazing performers, so this thing makes no sense. I'm rather confused than angry, but i can understand why, the people that went to see them, are.
As for the others, they're not lazy dancers, just people always need to pick on someone in the group to show that it isn't perfect. -_-
true
I've heard from the Born Pink concert. As you said, it's quite confusing as to how they sort of "deteriorated" (?) during the concert. They eventually are able to catch up and stabilize. I'm not sure if there was anything that has to do with their schedule, but I think, like many have said, that they should've practiced more before holding the concert considering how long it's been since they last held activities together as a group. Each of them, from what I remember from their hiatus as a group, look like they've been doing a lot of individual activities so without enough practice during the hiatus, I don't think they can synch well... All to say, I think Blackpink may need to practice more until they are sure they can synch with each other well on stage
( For fans who can easily hate idols who dance lazily ) Think about the Base : It's very hard being a kpop idol, try to understand them!
i feel like idols CAN be lazy, and thats ok. In defense, k-pop idols go through SO much, they are overworked to the extreme. Especially if they are popular. Usually some idols only debut for their visuals, not their skills. So its hard.
You’re allowed to be lazy, but not when it’s your job. It’s extremely disrespectful to fans who saved up so much money for tickets when you don’t try your best to perform for them.
Why don’t you go ahead and be lazy at your job. No one will be surprised if you get fired for being lazy and still expecting to get paid.
@@sennataylor592 Honestly i agree with your opinion and my opinion.
I feel bad for sulli alot like she got so much backlash I have seen so many videos about 'lazy bance titles, body shaming, and etc and sulli was almost each and every video I feel so bad like how much she got hate why can't people realized by there mistakes there backlash has taken someone's life and they all still continue to do it with others ain't they feel bad are they monsters or what
Hasn’t anyone noticed that there is only female idols being hated for this??? Shows u how crazy stans are get a life and stop hating on successful women
same thing when discussing stage presence there are male idols who have 0 stage presence but they get coddled by kpop fans, and no one ever brings it up, and if one brave fan criticizes these male idols then these fans get overly defensive. sometimes I wonder whether boygroup fans are overly defensive or girl group fans don't do enough to defend their faves.
@@ikramosman7221 yes!!
Bc males idols just dance better?
@@urlocalsimp559 yea not true at all lmao both female and male idols can dance!
@@urlocalsimp559 and that’s no excuse to hate on someone
at this point they would get hate for any silly thing they are doing
They are lazy. And that's okay. Sometimes people phone in a performance, like anyone does at their job. It doesn't make them bad people or bad idols or unworthy of our love and attention, but sometimes they get lazy! They aren't lazy all the time - it's like there's no room for nuance in kpop. They're either perfect or terrible. If lazy is the worst thing we can call them occasionally, they're doing just fine.
All of them aren't lazy bcoz in the jennie's case she got an ankle injury but she always tries her best.
Oh my God stop saying that they’re lazy they go for more things than you dummies
@@taekookieforever9181Jennie only tries her best in western concerts, it's litteraly obvious
@@rozubae Yall should look up what u write, before posting...
to a degree yes. But the occasional practice session is your chance to be lazy, on the night of a performance you should be giving 100%, no excuses. Or maybe we cut them some slack and say 90%. Maybe they don't have the energy to put on a show in every live stream and every variety show. But I think you can expect them to put in the full effort for the stage. Unless the schedule/tour is too overbooked but thats another issue, not "laziness".
This isn't just an idol thing. Many musicians get dragged if they put on a lazy performance. Look up "frank ocean coachella" if you want a recent high profile example, but its not rare. Fans travel from around the world and spend hundreds or thousands of dollars to see musicians when they go on tour. It really isnt the time to phone in a performance. Fans dont want to roll the dice when they spend their own money attending the show "I hope they can be bothered putting on a decent performance today". It is the artists obligation not to overbook or overwork themselves to the point of putting on a bad performance- the audience cant control that only the artist can.
If we wanna compare it to normal jobs, if someone paid you to paint their house but you do a completely shit job "I was tired, I already painted 3 other houses today" is not an excuse. Dont accept a job you cant do.
If you are working some office job for example and drastically fail to meet a deadline, "sorry Boss, I felt like phoning this one in" is not an excuse. In the week you had to work on the task you can be lazy at multiple points, I'm not saying you should work 24/7. But when it comes to the final product, failing to deliver it not acceptable. You say its like everyone does at their job, if you fail to deliver your main responsibility at most jobs, you are gonna be let go.
Compare it to school, sure you can be lazy and take an afternoon off studying, everyone does that. But there are certain times when you cannot phone it in. You would never just phone it in for an exam. Doesn't matter the circumstances, those are a few hours where being lazy is just a no go. Same for concerts. I don't know why that would be hard to understand.
ngl some idols are just not made out to be good dancers, simple as that. I know idols are meant to be all rounders, but realistically how is that possible?
No Arguments .....I went To Blackpink's Newark Concert . They were on FIRE especially JENNIE.
Not a Single Moment of Laziness considering they did 14 concerts in 25 days and they sing live 90% of the time.
So, Discussing these 1st Day Mistakes again n again won't gonna Change the Fact that Whole Tour Has been Amazing.
@kimyoung3818 so ? Which kpop group doesn't use Backtrack in their Concerts? 💀
I agree❤ Tyson for this comment
@@Xoxo78941 their ai idols lol 💀
@Kim Young and? all idols use back treck but when Bp use back treck their voice is very clearly heard
"The whole tour" were you in every show of the tour? lol
For Blackpink's 1st Day if u look at it Humanly the main reason of that some seconds mistakes comes out to be:
* Nervousness as Normal Humans. I saw there BPM of Seoul Concert, they were Nervous on 1st day which is Normal for a Group Performing Live concert after 2.5 Years in front of 20k people.
* 2ndly Change in Choreography. When i went to Their Concert, i noticed they Entirely changed Choreos of songs like Crazy over u and others, which can Get them to Become Confuse as Humans.
* Let's be Honest, i think BP r not the 1st group who committed Mistakes In Concert but the Hate They got for those Seconds was Very Inhumane.
so true
So after they made 6000 mistakes and even made a mistake in their last day on tour how do you excuse this? Actually it was only jennie but still.
Just stop treating idols like babies
@@BTS_JUNGKOOK_97 Stop treating them like robots. Anyone can get tired or confused. If you know anything about tours, you'd know it's normal. The first few shows are always a bit weaker because everyone's rusty, and the end of a tour is weak because people get exhausted. I feel like this is not understood in kpop. Live shows equal completely normal human mistakes. In western pop music, a mistake on stage is funny and gets a laugh even from the artist themselves, but when a kpop idol does it they get crucified and can never live it down.
Notice how most of them are really popular idols
I love Jessica, so this is just a fact: she also misses a move in a chorus in the “Hoot” video (might be performance though)
wonyoung seems tired, not lazy. she seems to be avoiding dizziness. if you barely sleep while on a diet and your performances require so much energy, i dont think you can do a hairflip without falling right after.
Agreed
I could watch this all day❤
I feel like Lia's stamina has deteriorated bc they made her diet too much. Like she lost so much weight compared to her debut days. Maybe it's affecting her dance performances 🤧🥲
Jennie is a good performer but she IS lazy. Sometimes she will outperform everyone including Lisa and sometimes she will act as is she never danced in her life before.
I tought the same before but now watching bp documentary film I understand a lot about her. She said in bp documentary that she quickly gets tired and she feel like a grandma and that make her feel bad and guilty. You just don't know the truth so please don't judge her
I'm wondering if she has some chronic illness she's never been public about. Would honestly make a lot of sense. Like anemia or fibromyalgia or exhaustion (with anxiety added on top). There's so many things that could be happening behind the scenes that we don't know about.
@@thespankmyfrankthen it’s on her for not speaking up about her illness. She’s choosing not to talk and to let people deduce that she’s lazy. She made her choice
Nah I doubt she has ever outperformed Lisa
i swear jennie’s the only one who CONSTANTLY has problems, people need to admit she just doesnt try
No she is just IT GIRL, she is THE MOST INFLUENCIAL f.aidol in k pop, people always critice her because she is popular and succesful, of course ppl will always be with their eyes on her. Obout others f.idols nobody care cuse they are not like Jennie, pretty, unique, charismatic, talanted, succesfyl, popular. SUCCESFUL IDOLS ARE ALWAYS THE MOST HATED.
Jennie has the lowest stamina out of the four members of her group so she needs to blend and rest for a couple of secs during long hours of dance and singing. As of the ankle injury, the ankle is really fragile so once you break it, it's hard to continue in the same way as you are during your prime. I can only say A for putting up with all the hate and still trying to deliver her best for the fans despite how problematic her body can cause her
For every bad performance she gives, her fans have a million excuses 😂
So true. Other girls in the video are not lazy dancing they’re just not as good as the other members but we all know how good jenny dances she just doesn’t try anymore.
Nah y’all never listen she has low stamina and acc. To me (which had a ankle injury) it’s really fragile after that and pretty much never heals like at all it’s still hurts sometimes
Also y’all be judging for 2 second clips MAX
All of the "lazy" idols has reason why they dont do the dance right but wonyoung had neck problems because of her forced diet at love dive amd after like era she was so weak and her bones were weak because od the diet and she dont want to flip her hair because she could break her neck
Miss Jennie, I will support you no matter what
Then maybe you should rethink your values. Supporting her NO MATTER WHAT is of no use to her. She needs to hear constructive criticism and improve on her weakness, like every human being on this planet is doing. Like when your parents criticise something you did so you can improve, or your teacher or your boss. That’s how we grow as human being. Supporting her no matter what is useless and stupid. And she’ll never grow when fans like you believe she can do no wrong.
Lia has improved a lot since voltage
Yes Lia is a great dancer pls stop the comments about her dancing
All of these idols have been woman which I find strange
because to kpop fans
Male idols not doing enough on stage = he's tired
female idols not doing enough on stage = She's lazy
@@ikramosman7221 Male idols can't give excuses for lazy performance,femalw idols can
@@Returntonature145 What does that mean/gen
@@ikramosman7221 It simply means male idols will not be relevent and loose fanbase if they give lazy performace like blackpink
Jennie loses breath a lot easier than others same with me and people calling her lazy no they don't understand what Jennie has and tries her best
Same
The hand move in Bad Boy... It is how it works, this has been confirmed by the choreographers
People won't leave SULLI alone, what do u guys want now from her
Hey im not fan of Itzy but I know them and having 5 member group with 4 members has dancing positions its not fair to judge her cuz that is the justice of their role of the group.
Im sorry but Jennie has way too many clips where she doesnt do her best. She's wayyy too inconsistent and hasnt been consistently good on stage since like 2017. Its honestly disrespectful to those who always work hard and all the lesser known groups who always give their 100%. She's only able to perform like that because BP are so popular.
Jennie has been on multiple breaks, and caught lazy dancing infinite times
Dude Don't u think people r literally becoming Inhumane in k-pop?
Everybody knows Jennie looses Breath Easily+ 7 Ankle Surgeries
( i had only 1 and it still Swells today also if i put Constant Pressure on My ankle, they r Kind of Incurable)
I mean For Jennie she has low Stamina, so u will Definitely get a Segment of 5-6 seconds in 2 hours performance where she's taking rest, Crop it then Compile it and Generate Hate For her and Earn Money from her Name. Simple🤷
Even without ankle injuries I can’t dance like Jennie ❤ she is so talented! Can people please stop it with the negative comments?
Then why does she perform so well outside Korea and her solo only?
Honestly if they’re doing it lazily then that’s just it there’s always room to improve and those that do you can obviously tell
These Idols are trying their best. Jennie even said that she hurt her ankle. She doesn’t deserve to be called a ‘lazy dancer’
And YG confirmed the truth about Jennie's ankle injury
I feel so bad for all of the dancers that are cubby Collins lazy that’s just stupid you know all of the people who are saying that the dancers are lazy or dumb ugly and or did you have no brain because sometimes people can be dealing through stuff that’s worse or than the words😢
I honestly don’t think any of these are lazy dances except for the black pink concert which wasn’t really lazy dancing but still a mess
Every single time I see that Blackpink clip where Rosé does the absolute least when she’s supposed to do a body roll gives me secondhand embarrassment for real. I feel worse for the people who bought tickets to that show.
Atleast she sings live the others are lipsyncing 60% of the concert lol
Spent money on that concert and I can tell u that all 4 members were incredible :) next time, try to not judge them with a 5 secs video made by antis
honestly its not even jennies fault she got an ankle injury she still tries her hardest to keep up and even if she does have "lazy dancing"(I don't think she does I love her dancing) it doesn't even matter because she still has the strength to dance after sustaining injuries.
girl it’s been 3 years she’s perfectly fine
@@crackerphobiclikekeeho I obviously know that but, she shouldn't have been getting backlash at the time.
@@Horrorluvverr no she definitely should’ve. if you had an injury she should’ve just went on hiatus. even after her injury was healed she kept on being lazy
@@crackerphobiclikekeeho but in their recent tour Jennie was jumping too much and it hurt her ankle
@@tsyeehaw then she should’ve have jumped. it was probably just a cramp cause she’s obese
Sulli 😭😭
You're allowed to criticize if you're sharing the same stage as them otherwise, keep scrolling.
They always criticize them! I'd like to see them do the dance since they are so judgeful of the idols.
Love the product placement 😁
For Giselle, look at her dance practice for DRAMA. Her skills improved a lot. Her dancing in this era is so darn clean, I almost can't believe that's Giselle dancing. And for Jennie, the first criticism might be baseless but the way she still inconsistent with her dancing clearly shows a lack for passion there. It's like she is tired being an Idol.
I Miss when she spoke in her vids It felt so yk warm.
I have a healthy issue that makes me loose my balance easily, I can't zhJe my head or flip my hair without getting dizzy and bad, maybe wony have some similar issue, I dont think its bad or a crime not flip the hair during thedance
I think it is perfectly okay to "be lazy" dancing when you are trying to keep your outfit intact(keep on shoes, keep on loose accessories) , trying to sing on top of dancing (this takes so much stamina for even 1 song, imagine a 2hour concert). "they are lip syncing" okay I want you to dance while lip syncing a 3minute song right now and tell me how well you did. Did you mouth perfectly? Did you go all the way to the floor, get back up, hit that kick, pivot, step, walk, walk, walk, kick, heel ball change while maintaining a pretty face , and your hair is presentable? Are you ready to do it another 7 times?
If you answered yes, then you're probably a professional dancer or should apply to be one or the alternative a liar...imagine lying to people on the internet :(
“Lack of stamina” and “ankle injury” are such poor excuses. There are literally idols who performed sitting in a chair because they broke their leg (like Wheein from Mamamoo) but they still gave a great performance with their vocals, facial expressions, etc. You can do smaller movements to accommodate for illness and injury, but still give effort where you’re able like with your facial expressions. Jennie was just completely deadpan.
Wonyoung and winter both have heavy hair styles of course they can't mess it up
I've seen some people ask why lia went on hiatus, and its literally because some people called her lazy
Two things: Jenny is an amazing performer… if she wants to be. If I didn’t want to give 100% at work, I’d be fired… Wonyoung: She won’t move her head cause she doesn’t want to mess up her hair. That’s also the reason why she’s seen constantly fixing her hair on stage mid performance which I personally find very annoying, but I’m generally not a fan of her as a performer, so that might be it…
when did she admit it?
@@buddies6389 she didn’t. It’s an assumption based on the fact that she’s constantly fixing her hair. Someone worried about their hair wouldn’t purposely flip her hair around, wouldn’t day? Also, to me that doesn’t make her a bad performer, yet, kinda interrupts the performance for me? I guess that really is personal preference, tho.
@@elyriabn3468 why would you assume something like that though?
edit: decided to remove some of the comment since it could come off as rude
@@buddies6389 I should not have phrased it like a statement, I apologise. And I came to the conclusion as I used to be a performer and got people in my friend circle who still work in that field. Some of the ladies refuse to do some dance moves as it would mess up their hair, so it’s a common phenomenon among female performers. So, I assumed that this might be the case for Wonyoung…
These people really think idols are robots who have to work 100% every time. I really want these people to walk through a trainee time for at least 3 months. Let's see what they have to say then🙄
Wongyoung is the most hardworking K-pop idol I’ve ever seen.
can i ask which kpop idols you've actually seen then?
@@yng_lxxmost likely a lot
I really like wonyoung but thats such a reach comment to make lmao
@@anisanurraudah8383 reread it. “i’ve ever seen”
Slay
мда, дженни и ее лодыжка - культовая история...
Those who are criticizing clearly cant do better
I Itzy Lia That shoulder dance I think it’s making her down but but she must think that group because Justin showed the dance and that’s been need see let’s eat sea Itzy Lia put on more effort and speed is it called energetics
People who are saying this should try doing the dances in groups so they can actually know how hard it is since sometimes they have a short deadline or a really hard coreagrophy
A lot of these are ridiculous but there as some cases where it is clear to see that these idols are slacking off and there will never be an excuse for that bc it is their job at the end of the day.
let's keep in mind that their "job" isn't a 9-5 but can demand up to 24 hours of their day sometimes. they may feel too tired to dance their best but exert enough effort to still perform despite the low energy they get from diet and poor sleeping schedules.
@@francinev3971 True, I have no doubt it is exhausting and sometimes they can't give 100% but I do consider it a problem when an idol consistently performs lazy because at the end of the day it is a job and like any other profession you are being paid (millions in their case) to do it well.
Nah Jennie is just lazy. Fans can use ‘health and injury’ excuses all they want, but all it does it make it seem like she has absolutely no business being an idol. If she’s ALWAYS sick or can’t heal from an injury and can’t put on a good performance because of that, she needs to get off the damn stage.
“She has less stamina” ok than why the hell is she in the most physically taxing career she could have possibly chosen?
I miss sulli sm.. it’s her anniversary today.. Rest in peace sulli 🩷
I'm still upset that Jennie was labeled a lazy dancer when she was bloody injured!
she’s definitely lazy. she had two years and your still blaming the sprained ankle that isn’t even sprained?
She just acts like it still hurts when a injury which she got is already healed. She only acts like it bc her fans will tell people thats its her ankle when its not its just her lazy dance
@@Junho_wifey have you ever broken your ankle? and then had to dance continuously for days after that?
@@Junho_wifey LITERALLY
@@crackerphobiclikekeeho finally somone who agrees
People get tired form doing all of their hard work.
Just let the haters become an idol then. Just to feel how tired is it, and feeling so much hate speech, and have hard schedule there, how though just even to breathe..
First comment lol
But like honestly, people need to get a life and stop knit picking at everything
lezy jennie the whole world knows that
For Jennie : Are the haters gonna be able to dance with an Broken ankle . And the stage presence she gives is The BEST , And jennie once said “ don’t believe the social media “ because by one clip you dont know how she danced in the 2 hour concert
She is a QUEEN
excuses
JENNIE IS SLAY
@@aastar8358😂
There's a line between LAZY and NOT GOOD. If you're lazy just because you want it too. But if you're not good, no matter how many you try, you'll always left behind.
it’s funny how these ppl call idols “lazy dancer” or “bad dancers” knowing that they probably dance even worse than these idols
Lazy dancers 😭
Pls netizens have gone too far
In defense of all those K-pop idols who were named lazy or less dancing skills , why don’t u try being a K-pop idol for a week and see it ur self ,none of them are lazy and they are all skillful so please don’t hate on them u don’t know what they are going through
All female idols. Double standard much?
Sometimes moving your head like that can cause you to faint if you have certain health issues. It doesn’t make Wonyoung lazy. Maybe she got told not to do it for health reasons or for keeping her hair intact. So nitpicky I swear.
The only weak one is Jennie, when she wants she dances incredible and with a lot of energy and with an incredible presence but on her Born Pink tour it was a miracle that you got Jennie with all that.
so i just get it! according to netz you need to flip your hair to be a a good dancer or to be considered as one..
I'm sorry but why is 4:03 SO FUNNY.
Jennie Blackpink would have been lazy in 2022.
In 2023 she has consistency because there is no more lazy clips of her in 2023.
She is always singing live + Energy in dance.
Jennie sp in 2023 is great.
Jennie so much ..I mean lazy
People who hate on these idols don’t even realize what there going through for example Jennie’s ankle injury❤
soyeon t ara maybe the only who weren't be criticized with her lazy dance :))))))
Fans came to concert not a dance competition
for jennie its because if she dances energetically shell get hate if she dance lazily shell get hate i mean what do you want her to do
To be honest, Jennie surprised me a lot, i noticed her injuries/mistakes too, but now im so happy for her for having the courage to have her own company and to be releasing songs
if she can't keep up with being an idol then why the hell did she establish her own company she doesn't deserve it is she isn't going to be lazy on stage
About Lia. She's a good dancer but the others members of the group are just so much better than her. Shes trying but is not enough to keep up with ryujin of example
The thing is Dont you think they are exhausted from Dancing all day i dont find them lazy or a bad dancer they can dance better than me they are tired so they dont give much energy
notice how they're literally all women
Fr. And when a male idols makes a mistake people say its cute and oh it was jus a mistake. I hate this.
Sulli simplesmente perfeita, não tem nada de errado e só pegaram no pé dela por causa do hate que ficou normalizado