That is a huge leap, but you will get your money's worth. I have absolute trust and faith in GGG. They don't half-ass things or compromise quality. And like the guy above me said, 1000 hours is barely scratching the surface. I have about 3000 hours in the game since the beta in 2011 and I barely know my ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to everything in PoE. But it gives me that same feeling that I haven't had since D2 or the days of UItima Online, where I just keep learning new things every time I play.
@rraunso I bought the $60 pack and two days ago I was regretting it. I hated the game at first because I wanted it to be like PoE 1 but I have slowed down and it finally clicked with me. I've started to really enjoy it.
We all wanted the successor to D2, but it didn't happen. With a Diablo title. I always wonder why they felt the need to change it instead of expand upon it. Doesn't make sense to me.
It's not that complicated. The actual people behind D1 and D2 were Blizzard North- NOT Blizzard. Definitely NOT the current crop of terrible devs. You have none of the visionaries nor innovators. You just have DEI hires trying to make money off the IP.
Love your Vids Iceman! So glad that you changed the Channel Name as well - its much more Fitting of the Channel! But you are going on this Journey like us, and I too, with Inspiration from you are going into this with Minimum Guides and Minimum Hand Holding.... At least for the first whole Playthrough or until I hit a Brickwall with info from the game. This game will be revolutionary and I'm glad you are at least going to give this a big shot at. I think that we all should Temper all of our Expectations a little, this game will be much more difficult but yet familiar... And the other thing is that this game on Day One and the First weekend at least, the Servers are going to probably take a huge hit and not be so good.... It always happens with the Best of Online MMO games like this. I may call in the Following Monday lol, hoping that day will be the best day to play all day
I don't know what will happen to the game. I know I'm not touching it anymore. It's time I understand that Blizzard I know and love doesn't exist anymore. Let's go to other new stuff and support devs that love their product like Blizz used to do.
D2r was good though. Only thing blizzard has done right in years. Some quality of life changes could have been made. But overall no reason to fiddle with a near perfect game!
None of us PoE fanboys want Diablo to suck. We really don't. We all loved and worshiped the burning ground that D2 was built on. But Diablo 4 just sucks. It really sucks, and it's an absolute disgrace to the once beloved franchise that set the standard for everything. GGG worshipped Blizzard and Diablo 2. It's why PoE was even made. But the Blizzard we loved is long gone, deader than Deckard Cain at the hands of some wonky-ass butterfly witch thing and it's time to move on. Hopefully PoE 2 will light a hellfire under Blizzard's ass so we can get a good game again.
There will be allways people playing D4, it is a basic game for minds that don't expect much. Not everybody can manage complex chains of thoughts like we do with our many wives. When you get used to think, easy stuff it is not enought.
D4 will be fine. Their numbers will take a hit, but if anything it helps the players. They'll have no choice but to put out more stuff for the arpg players. The casuals will try POE2 but will go back to D4.
I skipped out on Diablo 4's expansion in leau of PoE 2's arrival. So stoked that its looking really good so far and has had a lot of positive feedback.
I apologize I thought the necro build wouldn't work cuz there is no necro Ascension tree. But it seems like you will be able to do it on the pyro build by blowing up your minions and maybe blood magical have another effect maybe they have blood spilling powers or something so your necro build can be done
This @ 7:42, I knew D4 was not the game I want, but the hype train went so I bought the game due to peer pressure, ended up playing about 10hrs and went back to POE1.
Bliz pulled so many stunts, and disappointed so many people since after the D2 days (last amazing product they made), that I have absolutely no clue why people would still be tricked and have hopes. Its not even the same people or same company any more. Its beyond me how much people clig unto them even after all those scams. Its nuts. And I used to be a huge fan of them too so you can only imagine my disappointment. It is what it is, but I accepted it. Well thankfully eventually more people get enlightened.
I’m still lying to myself thinking I’ll hop in and do the battle pass real quick every season. but I know it’s over I have good friends over-there going to miss them. it’s like graduation day bitter sweet but exciting!
Playing blizzard games is like being in an abusive relationship. They gaslight you, baby im different, im changing, everything will be better this time. Next thing you know theyre taking a bunch of money from you and youre disappointed you ever looked back
D4 will continue to have smaller following of semi dedicated casuals. People wanted a good, old fashioned H&S, D4 was supposed to be that with mmo coat of paint. Over time however, it turned into always online D3 + macrotransactions". With a lot of more hardcore players moving on to PoE2, D4 will whimper into a little corner where it will continue to survive on sale of cosmetics until the announcement of Diablo 5 that will be "mature hard core experience that will return to the roots of the series" platitude.
People will jump unto PoE2 for about 3-6 weeks and will get bored (just like ALL games) and then will be jumping from ARPG to ARPG every season. So nothing will happen to D4, people will be back for season 7, will play that for a few weeks then jump to whatever season happens on PoE1/Last Epoch etc... then will be back for season 8 D4 etc... So NOTHING will change longterm, PoE2 will just be another ARPG to play for a few weeks every season
Apart from Willem Dafoe D2R was really well made (I only play Barb and Necro anyway, so I don't care about the others), it is the only thing Blizzard did 80% right in 20 years probably, just because all they had to do is upscale the graphics of D2 and also because another company did that not Blizztard.
PoE2 will probably be a good, even great game but I don't expect D4 dying anytime soon despite media hype telling you something else. Think people will stick to D4 or come back after a while. As for me, I will probably be playing both.
PoE2 looks so good, Diablo 4 will survive it for sure but I could imagine that a lot of people are going to switch from D4 to PoE2 once for good, I mean why paying $40 DLC every year when you can play an amazing arpg including all DLC's with tons of content for free.
It's not so much that D4 is finished if anything it might convince the higher-ups to convince the board of directors to actually let them start acting like they used to again before all of their investors lose all their money. I mean I feel like sure they can still do probably fine with the D4 Andy's The whales that don't have enough time to play that buy every microtransaction for some reason. Who knows in the ideal situation path of Exile 2 popping off would create the same type of effect that I hope baldur's gate 3 does. Which is inspire developers to make better games Go out of their way to be better developers. I'm sure teams like the ones behind Terraria, behind Warframe, behind No Man's Sky, etc will see yet another developer doing right by their players and continue to be inspired in any updates for their games or for new games.
I hope PoE2 syphons off all the tryhards so Diablo can embrace the casual role it plays, and not have bored PoE1 players whining about it being too easy. No game NEEDS to cater to a single playstyle, but it's really luck that Diablo 2 ended up as a jack of all trades... you certainly can't call it skill or planning with as much as it evolved and is in some ways still very broken today.
when you thought d4 gonna be a good game? cus it was obvious from like diablo immortal announcement that blizzard is long gone and they cant make good games, only good business
I know blizzard is woke but I also personally think it’s UA-camrs like rhykker that influences the build you must have, and others as such. The need for seasons and speed also ruined the “Diablo-like” game style. Diablo 4 is just copy paste Diablo 3 . I played through the dlc recently and honestly it didn’t feel like I was ever in danger. It’s just to easy and extremely dumbed down
What I disliked on PoE1 is the old graphics, it just felt so old compared to D4, which looks stunning, must admit that. And now PoE2 with new fresh visuals will be amazing to experience! Even if my Class and Swords do not yet exist in the early access. And I shit on youtubers and streamers and guideboys, they seek for attention and ride the hype train to milk everything, yet being outsmarted by the most casual players.
trust me man from poe back when first came out till what it is now its pretty good now poe2 will smash it with graphics etc main thing im gonna avoid videos like diablo content creators did hence why i stopped playing d4 due to the fact before xpansion came out boom 100 videos meta builds / story etc it put me off i was so salty
If your problem in these kind of games, is ever the graphics and not other things, and you don't realize that its all about gameplay and content, then you are definitely playing the wrong genre. Graphics was never the most important aspect in this genre. Its just a nice to have, nothing more nothing less. Poe1 had other issues for sure. Graphics was honestly never one of them.
@kobarsos82 yeah man graphics was the least For me it was the passive tree and gameplay and so much customisation so many builds to play with for me that was fun 13 years playing it still learn and enjoy it
@@adamkaszonyi3660install DI and D4 and compare them side to side. D4 look much better. If you don’t like the art style it’s ok, but saying D4 look trash is just not true. This is one of the only things this game have, I think we can give them.
I’m so sick of all these post saying poe2 is gonna kill d4…I guess McDonalds went out of business cause burger king came out there’s room for both franchises to coexist!!!!
What will happen with D4? Millions will still play it. Make money. Move forward. POE2 will get a tad bit more players, that’s it. All POE2 is a mixture of D2, D3, extension of POE1. Overhyped for no reason. POE2 will be the tired old ARPG with a little extra. People acting like this is revolutionary. LOL!
For no reason? Absolutely not. They fixed so much of the issues the first one had and made it so much better. It has way more content and more comprehensive systems. The combat is absolutely the best thing they've done. Next is content. Stop being disingenuous.
@@unknown.entity-999 i played over 1000 hours of POE1. I really don’t see much difference. I will see when im able to play the game. I guess only time will tell.
Dude, change your profile pic to POE2. D4 is finished.
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We don't know if poe2 will be successful yet
@ it will 💯 be a success
@@ryu-kenlol
@@ryu-kenwell the early access has more players registered then the peak of Poe 1
Uninstalled D4 the other day and bought early access to POE2 last night 👍
Idk man that cookbook was fucking sick and saved gaming
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LAWL
😂 😂
I bought the cookbook, but everything I make keeps coming out half-baked.
@@Pre-Expatriateoh my God yes 😂😂😂
Poe 2 is what D4 should be. Blizzards is gone. Like me.
I'm so confident POE2 will be my next 1000+ hour game that I bought the $240 supporter pack and never played POE before. Can't wait till 12/6!!!
That’s a lot of conviction for a game you never played 😅
1000 hour is too few hours for poe. lol
That is a huge leap, but you will get your money's worth. I have absolute trust and faith in GGG. They don't half-ass things or compromise quality. And like the guy above me said, 1000 hours is barely scratching the surface. I have about 3000 hours in the game since the beta in 2011 and I barely know my ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to everything in PoE. But it gives me that same feeling that I haven't had since D2 or the days of UItima Online, where I just keep learning new things every time I play.
I started with the 100$ pack, but I am sure I will upgrade it during the early access.
@rraunso I bought the $60 pack and two days ago I was regretting it. I hated the game at first because I wanted it to be like PoE 1 but I have slowed down and it finally clicked with me. I've started to really enjoy it.
I love this guys content.
Totally, sounds like a crazy uncle with viking genes that talks about the glory and joy of his past life, can't stop watching and listening
@@honzad.7992 That's a pretty accurate description
We all wanted the successor to D2, but it didn't happen. With a Diablo title. I always wonder why they felt the need to change it instead of expand upon it. Doesn't make sense to me.
It's not that complicated. The actual people behind D1 and D2 were Blizzard North- NOT Blizzard. Definitely NOT the current crop of terrible devs.
You have none of the visionaries nor innovators. You just have DEI hires trying to make money off the IP.
hard agree. i just want more locations / acts / dungeons for d2
Love your Vids Iceman! So glad that you changed the Channel Name as well - its much more Fitting of the Channel!
But you are going on this Journey like us, and I too, with Inspiration from you are going into this with Minimum Guides and Minimum Hand Holding.... At least for the first whole Playthrough or until I hit a Brickwall with info from the game. This game will be revolutionary and I'm glad you are at least going to give this a big shot at. I think that we all should Temper all of our Expectations a little, this game will be much more difficult but yet familiar... And the other thing is that this game on Day One and the First weekend at least, the Servers are going to probably take a huge hit and not be so good.... It always happens with the Best of Online MMO games like this. I may call in the Following Monday lol, hoping that day will be the best day to play all day
I don't know what will happen to the game. I know I'm not touching it anymore. It's time I understand that Blizzard I know and love doesn't exist anymore.
Let's go to other new stuff and support devs that love their product like Blizz used to do.
D2r was good though. Only thing blizzard has done right in years. Some quality of life changes could have been made. But overall no reason to fiddle with a near perfect game!
None of us PoE fanboys want Diablo to suck. We really don't. We all loved and worshiped the burning ground that D2 was built on. But Diablo 4 just sucks. It really sucks, and it's an absolute disgrace to the once beloved franchise that set the standard for everything. GGG worshipped Blizzard and Diablo 2. It's why PoE was even made.
But the Blizzard we loved is long gone, deader than Deckard Cain at the hands of some wonky-ass butterfly witch thing and it's time to move on. Hopefully PoE 2 will light a hellfire under Blizzard's ass so we can get a good game again.
Not only didn't they redeem themselves, they doubled down on the woke crap.
bro change the Pic of the youtube ;)
heh aiight
@@ICEMANASCENDINGyea put the seed of corruption bursting out of the ice
@@ICEMANASCENDINGno dont. Leave it as a troll.
Already pre-ordered locked and loaded. Ready for the POE2 action Iceman. HELL YEAH DAWG.
I have a German shepherd also, shes kinder, smarter and more human than most people I know.
The worst part about all of this is he worked hard on that logo 😂😂😂😂😂
lulz
There will be allways people playing D4, it is a basic game for minds that don't expect much. Not everybody can manage complex chains of thoughts like we do with our many wives. When you get used to think, easy stuff it is not enought.
haha
Diablo and blizz can pack their bags their done . Poe2 will Dominate !
D4 will be fine. Their numbers will take a hit, but if anything it helps the players. They'll have no choice but to put out more stuff for the arpg players. The casuals will try POE2 but will go back to D4.
Decided not to become a patreon member because I don’t want any wife’s. Would ruin my PoE time
if you'd like, I can retract the many wives blessings to you but you may still support the research
What info does the research institution have for server status on launch?
heh what's a server statue?
I skipped out on Diablo 4's expansion in leau of PoE 2's arrival. So stoked that its looking really good so far and has had a lot of positive feedback.
D4 was created by AI. PoE2 was created by Intelligent people
I apologize I thought the necro build wouldn't work cuz there is no necro Ascension tree. But it seems like you will be able to do it on the pyro build by blowing up your minions and maybe blood magical have another effect maybe they have blood spilling powers or something so your necro build can be done
hmmm I wonder how well that will work out w/o ascension
This @ 7:42, I knew D4 was not the game I want, but the hype train went so I bought the game due to peer pressure, ended up playing about 10hrs and went back to POE1.
It's time to buy D4 cookbook I guess.
Bliz pulled so many stunts, and disappointed so many people since after the D2 days (last amazing product they made), that I have absolutely no clue why people would still be tricked and have hopes. Its not even the same people or same company any more. Its beyond me how much people clig unto them even after all those scams. Its nuts. And I used to be a huge fan of them too so you can only imagine my disappointment. It is what it is, but I accepted it. Well thankfully eventually more people get enlightened.
Yup. I stood strong when I told my friends I wasn't buying D4.
They went ahead and they all regret that garbage.
I’m still lying to myself thinking I’ll hop in and do the battle pass real quick every season. but I know it’s over I have good friends over-there going to miss them. it’s like graduation day bitter sweet but exciting!
Playing blizzard games is like being in an abusive relationship. They gaslight you, baby im different, im changing, everything will be better this time.
Next thing you know theyre taking a bunch of money from you and youre disappointed you ever looked back
WAKE UP- - friday is approaching !!!!
D4 going to the dustbin of history
Diablo 4 will be fine. I think it's crazy to think it will die. Poe and diablo are catered to completely diffrent people.
Agreed 100 monk first then druid live. Enjoy brothers.
I appreciate the mediation ❤
Not to hate on the hype train, since the build up is part of the experience, but we were all hyped for D4 too 😅
yeah it's a great point tbh
D4 will continue to have smaller following of semi dedicated casuals.
People wanted a good, old fashioned H&S, D4 was supposed to be that with mmo coat of paint. Over time however, it turned into always online D3 + macrotransactions".
With a lot of more hardcore players moving on to PoE2, D4 will whimper into a little corner where it will continue to survive on sale of cosmetics until the announcement of Diablo 5 that will be "mature hard core experience that will return to the roots of the series" platitude.
People will jump unto PoE2 for about 3-6 weeks and will get bored (just like ALL games) and then will be jumping from ARPG to ARPG every season.
So nothing will happen to D4, people will be back for season 7, will play that for a few weeks then jump to whatever season happens on PoE1/Last Epoch etc... then will be back for season 8 D4 etc...
So NOTHING will change longterm, PoE2 will just be another ARPG to play for a few weeks every season
Giizzard won because they were able to beat POE2 to early release punch. That's all Blizzard could do to compete.
LOL
you are correct... i fear
Apart from Willem Dafoe D2R was really well made (I only play Barb and Necro anyway, so I don't care about the others), it is the only thing Blizzard did 80% right in 20 years probably, just because all they had to do is upscale the graphics of D2 and also because another company did that not Blizztard.
LAWL
PoE2 will probably be a good, even great game but I don't expect D4 dying anytime soon despite media hype telling you something else. Think people will stick to D4 or come back after a while. As for me, I will probably be playing both.
PoE2 looks so good, Diablo 4 will survive it for sure but I could imagine that a lot of people are going to switch from D4 to PoE2 once for good, I mean why paying $40 DLC every year when you can play an amazing arpg including all DLC's with tons of content for free.
It's not so much that D4 is finished if anything it might convince the higher-ups to convince the board of directors to actually let them start acting like they used to again before all of their investors lose all their money.
I mean I feel like sure they can still do probably fine with the D4 Andy's The whales that don't have enough time to play that buy every microtransaction for some reason. Who knows in the ideal situation path of Exile 2 popping off would create the same type of effect that I hope baldur's gate 3 does. Which is inspire developers to make better games Go out of their way to be better developers.
I'm sure teams like the ones behind Terraria, behind Warframe, behind No Man's Sky, etc will see yet another developer doing right by their players and continue to be inspired in any updates for their games or for new games.
I hope PoE2 syphons off all the tryhards so Diablo can embrace the casual role it plays, and not have bored PoE1 players whining about it being too easy.
No game NEEDS to cater to a single playstyle, but it's really luck that Diablo 2 ended up as a jack of all trades... you certainly can't call it skill or planning with as much as it evolved and is in some ways still very broken today.
when you thought d4 gonna be a good game? cus it was obvious from like diablo immortal announcement that blizzard is long gone and they cant make good games, only good business
Path of Crafting 2 isn't sending D4 anywhere. That being said I probably will try it out. 😂
Yeah the crafting in D4 is amazing 🤣
I know blizzard is woke but I also personally think it’s UA-camrs like rhykker that influences the build you must have, and others as such. The need for seasons and speed also ruined the “Diablo-like” game style. Diablo 4 is just copy paste Diablo 3 . I played through the dlc recently and honestly it didn’t feel like I was ever in danger. It’s just to easy and extremely dumbed down
What I disliked on PoE1 is the old graphics, it just felt so old compared to D4, which looks stunning, must admit that. And now PoE2 with new fresh visuals will be amazing to experience! Even if my Class and Swords do not yet exist in the early access. And I shit on youtubers and streamers and guideboys, they seek for attention and ride the hype train to milk everything, yet being outsmarted by the most casual players.
diablo looks trash asf ngl looks like diablo immortal
trust me man from poe back when first came out till what it is now its pretty good now poe2 will smash it with graphics etc
main thing im gonna avoid videos like diablo content creators did hence why i stopped playing d4 due to the fact before xpansion came out boom 100 videos meta builds / story etc it put me off i was so salty
If your problem in these kind of games, is ever the graphics and not other things, and you don't realize that its all about gameplay and content, then you are definitely playing the wrong genre. Graphics was never the most important aspect in this genre. Its just a nice to have, nothing more nothing less. Poe1 had other issues for sure. Graphics was honestly never one of them.
@kobarsos82 yeah man graphics was the least
For me it was the passive tree and gameplay and so much customisation so many builds to play with for me that was fun 13 years playing it still learn and enjoy it
@@adamkaszonyi3660install DI and D4 and compare them side to side. D4 look much better. If you don’t like the art style it’s ok, but saying D4 look trash is just not true. This is one of the only things this game have, I think we can give them.
Imagine looking at that cringe ass Diablo 3.5 wannabe mmo "return to darkness" marketing campaign and thinking to yourself, wow! This looks worth $70
Bro wished many wives upon me. Ive never had such a generous wish bestowed upon me. Thank you.
Best of luck!
I love these rants 😅
thank
Poe2 has buried d4
bring back the tater tots!! lmfao!! I hated that damn lunch lady druid
LOL
Drinkin' water and meat ALL DAY
LOL
Woke ass d4 devs put more effort into that cook book bullshit than D4 content
LAWL
Yeah cause D4 is just flush with content 🤣
I’m so sick of all these post saying poe2 is gonna kill d4…I guess McDonalds went out of business cause burger king came out there’s room for both franchises to coexist!!!!
I wont be buying the the next 5 expansions. Period.
lol
Diablo 4 is dog shit and the same goes for classic wow. Just re-releases and remastering of old washed up content.
Ohhh your milking this hoping to grow your channel. Your numbers show it , a grifter nice
thank you :D
D4 was boring as f.
tru
😂😂😂
messy yappin
What will happen with D4? Millions will still play it. Make money. Move forward. POE2 will get a tad bit more players, that’s it. All POE2 is a mixture of D2, D3, extension of POE1. Overhyped for no reason. POE2 will be the tired old ARPG with a little extra. People acting like this is revolutionary. LOL!
For no reason? Absolutely not. They fixed so much of the issues the first one had and made it so much better. It has way more content and more comprehensive systems. The combat is absolutely the best thing they've done. Next is content. Stop being disingenuous.
@@unknown.entity-999 i played over 1000 hours of POE1. I really don’t see much difference. I will see when im able to play the game. I guess only time will tell.