The Battle of Drøbak Sound 1940

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  • @AlexisPerez-yy7dk
    @AlexisPerez-yy7dk 5 років тому +3689

    "Either I will be decorated or I will be court marshalled...fire!" Love this guy glad he got his medal

    • @Reynolds323
      @Reynolds323 5 років тому +267

      Yeah and who would've thought that he would both get (initially) court martialled and then decorated with the highest award :D

    • @bothewolf3466
      @bothewolf3466 5 років тому +77

      Politicians, and for that matter high ranking military officers not present can be turds. They guys who initiated it were not there and were in no position to adjudge his actions, yet initiated a court-martial anyway.

    • @Callsign_Prophet
      @Callsign_Prophet 5 років тому +7

      Idk what he did was risky

    • @LordMoriar
      @LordMoriar 5 років тому +89

      Even better is his earlier words:
      "By the devil, off course we shall fire live!" (meaning ammunition)
      "Visst Fanden skal der skytes med skarpt!»

    • @Matiddd
      @Matiddd 5 років тому +7

      @@OperivePlayAction What is exactly wrong with it? They have shown the invasion and correct border after. They didn't highlight USSR simply because it is not relevant to the video.

  • @Bearded_Tattooed_Guy
    @Bearded_Tattooed_Guy 4 роки тому +868

    Fun fact:
    During the ensuing airial bombardement of Oscarsborg the Germans hit a tool-shed, proppelling tools all over.
    A messenger, being caught outside during the attack, and taking cover next to a wall, was almost hit by an axe.
    The axe stuck in said wall some inches from the messenger's head.
    The messenger reported to his superiors that "it seemes the Germans are running out of bombs, as they have started throwing axes"...

    • @JoeOvercoat
      @JoeOvercoat 3 роки тому +58

      Pål Deisz They reassured him by saying, “No son, they’re just throwing axes at *you*.”

    • @Ulvetann
      @Ulvetann 3 роки тому +34

      That is proper norwegian cool sarcasm.

    • @mace8873
      @mace8873 3 роки тому +10

      Hadn't heard that story, it's fucking hilarious!:-D

    • @ikecampbell2221
      @ikecampbell2221 2 роки тому +15

      @@mace8873 yeah, somebody in a different comment section said that a tour guide who served in WW2 told that story and the messenger did it for comedic relief. It seems to have worked.

    • @IceWarrior101
      @IceWarrior101 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah this is a stolen comment from another video... the original comment was said much better.

  • @sveinpedersen7346
    @sveinpedersen7346 5 років тому +846

    Drøbak Sund, is the name.
    Oscarborg Festning, is the name of the fort, on the island.
    I served there, in 1977.
    My grandfather, served there, in april 1940. In the torpedo battery. He recived a medal, and a diploma, from King Haakon VIi. After the war.

    • @ayana6845
      @ayana6845 5 років тому +58

      im proud to hear that. my great grandfather fought as the second in charge of hes sqaud in the military during the invasion. in the same movie the kings choice where they fight in Midtskogen around Hamar. thats where my great grandfather fought. when i saw that scene the first time.. the feeling of proud swelled over but also.. the feeling of dread. like.. he was captured there and sent to work on gardemoen. then sent back home bcs he lived ona farm. i found out this after he died but even tho i wanted to serve in the military i couldnt bcs eyesight and hearing devices. still tho. im very proud of what he did. defending this beaitiful land. heh. France is twice as big and fell in two weeks. Norway is smaller than France with less military and all. but still wasnt fully under control before two months after invasion started heh. small country. big wills

    • @sveinpedersen7346
      @sveinpedersen7346 5 років тому +26

      @@ayana6845 I'm proud, of my granddad.
      What I'm not proud of, is that our goverments have made this country, open for an new invasjon... This time, from the nazi's old friends... And that they have removed all of the military, from Østlandet, Sørlandet and Midt-Norge.

    • @ayana6845
      @ayana6845 5 років тому +10

      @@sveinpedersen7346 yeah i agree to that... history is repeating itself

    • @Amateur0Visionary
      @Amateur0Visionary 4 роки тому +10

      Thank you for your service, and for that of your forefathers. The US Mil wouldn't take me due to medical reasons. But both of my grandfathers were in WWII. One was in the Pacific, the other was an infantryman in Germany. He was in the first relief group for the troops that took the bridge at Remagen. Fought in the Ardennes as well.
      I'm curious, what invasion do you speak of? I'm not trying to argue, Im honestly asking.

    • @vLaaaaaaadY
      @vLaaaaaaadY 4 роки тому +4

      @@ayana6845 You can't really compare the invasion of France and the invasion of Norway. The invasion of Norway was top priority for the Allies, since the Western Front wasn't active yet, the Allies had many ressources available to defend Norway because they knew it was key for Germany to have access to mining ressources, but also key to potentially invade Germany from the North. So of course Norway tried, with many volunteers to fight back the invasion, but as soon as Germany finally made a move on the Western Front, Norway wasn't the main priority anymore, since Netherland and France became the top priority, withdrawing every men and boats from Norway which capitulated not so long after.
      On the France side, they were just dumb, and had trouble to organize a good defense since the surprise from the crossing of the Ardennes Forest, and the geography was too hard to set proper global plans, and of course the rest is history

  • @Saeronor
    @Saeronor 5 років тому +2154

    I knew Austro-Hungarian military had to be good at *something* .
    Didn't expect naval combat, though :)

    • @attilakatona-bugner1140
      @attilakatona-bugner1140 5 років тому +227

      Actually, torpedoes were invented by the austro-hungarian navy :)

    • @aquila4460
      @aquila4460 5 років тому +43

      Well, the italians where still better at it. To be honest though, a highly competent navy able to punch far above it's weight with minimal recourses was always a bit of an italian specialty.

    • @norbzt
      @norbzt 5 років тому +82

      @@aquila4460 No one claimed the Italians were worse.

    • @edmundbissonnette6504
      @edmundbissonnette6504 5 років тому +113

      @@aquila4460 Ironic that the Italians had a great navy, considering the Romans had a reputation for having a fairly poor one.

    • @attilakatona-bugner1140
      @attilakatona-bugner1140 5 років тому +1

      @Nuno dos Santos you must be a god if you did

  • @Gentlemen364
    @Gentlemen364 5 років тому +2490

    Ironic, a german ship sunk by Krupp manufactured guns

    • @Shloomy_Shloms
      @Shloomy_Shloms 5 років тому +500

      zPhenomm heavily damaged by Krupp guns and fatally wounded by Austro-Hungarian torpedos lol the irony is strong with this attack

    • @AlexisPerez-yy7dk
      @AlexisPerez-yy7dk 5 років тому +16

      I don't get the irony, explain please ? What is krupp?

    • @Koziiip
      @Koziiip 5 років тому +194

      @@AlexisPerez-yy7dk It's a german steel manufacturer

    • @AlexisPerez-yy7dk
      @AlexisPerez-yy7dk 5 років тому +55

      @@Koziiip oh alright thanks.

    • @Koziiip
      @Koziiip 5 років тому +43

      @@lennartt9523 not for the sunk ship though

  • @PavelKahun
    @PavelKahun 5 років тому +1619

    Dude, I have an idea, what if we take our newest warship and go with it nonchalantly right under the fortress defending the capital of the nation we are invading. What could go wrong??

    • @MikaelKKarlsson
      @MikaelKKarlsson 5 років тому +282

      Nah those guns are ancient young man. And I bet their munitions are leftovers from the last war, hah!

    • @jonweik4091
      @jonweik4091 5 років тому +293

      That is what happens when you think obsolete naval defenses won't do anything

    • @getfreur2458
      @getfreur2458 5 років тому +63

      And let's not forget it's our flagship, literally the most important vessel on the entire fleet.

    • @sdsd2e2321
      @sdsd2e2321 5 років тому +122

      @@getfreur2458 Flagship of the task force. Not the most important

    • @PerfidiousPuffin
      @PerfidiousPuffin 5 років тому +31

      @@getfreur2458 it's an 8 inch cruiser, HARDLY most important!! 😂
      They have four battleships, and even 11 inch cruisers. 8 inch cruisers are dime a dozen. The Royal Navy probably had 50 of them...

  • @cashmir5883
    @cashmir5883 4 роки тому +457

    Taking out the newest Nazi heavy cruiser with a rusty training facility. Proud Norwegian

    • @belfast4893
      @belfast4893 3 роки тому +13

      That is a quick victory until planes rained hell on them...so not too proud of that. But rip Blucher, the one hipper class that end up being an embarrassment to the Kriegsmarine

    • @Ulvetann
      @Ulvetann 3 роки тому +20

      @@belfast4893 Hey, the fortress is still standing. Dem bomms didn't harm the norwegians. In fact, norwegian started to pull out dinghys to fish sailors up. -Can't have these boys sploshing around in cold seawater! -And yes, sinking AH's superduperyacht within a week of operational status? -That _is_ a big win. -Just imagine how close AHs head was to explode when he learnt the King is not arrested, AND he lost his 'boat'. Hahahahh. That must have hurt.

    • @hypothalapotamus5293
      @hypothalapotamus5293 3 роки тому +7

      Taking out a heavy cruiser at point blank range with 11 inch guns and Torpedoes isn't all that impressive. They're not designed to take hits from that caliber and tend to blow up or capsize when hit with torpedoes.
      It's actually horrific how many heavy cruisers the Americans and Japanese went through during WW2.

    • @thomaskawalec3740
      @thomaskawalec3740 3 роки тому

      I’m the 200th like

    • @jout738
      @jout738 2 роки тому +3

      Yes taking out it with 50 years old canoon. Thats some real pro move.

  • @waywardstoner9416
    @waywardstoner9416 5 років тому +824

    Gotta admire Eriksen for it's bravery and dealing with the circumstances of the battle.

    • @vetleelias
      @vetleelias 5 років тому +11

      Yea sad sombody wanted to trow him in prison after the war (sins he did a war act with out orders)

    • @amirehosseyni
      @amirehosseyni 5 років тому +1

      old fart brings tears to my eyes T_T

    • @a05odst62
      @a05odst62 5 років тому +3

      Never underestimate your opponent.

    • @ethanalfman7805
      @ethanalfman7805 5 років тому +2

      Daily Dosage Of Dank You mixed up the two, they are talking about the Norwegian Colonel at the battery.

    • @hottestcheese7973
      @hottestcheese7973 5 років тому

      One Eye Ethan oh shit sorry

  • @jakvos342
    @jakvos342 5 років тому +590

    "You're god-damned right we're going to fire live ammunition!" - Birger Eriksen

    • @matsman100
      @matsman100 5 років тому +95

      "Do we fire a warning, Colonel?" Eriksen: "No warning, no hesitation. These are enemies."

    • @echo-4186
      @echo-4186 5 років тому +47

      "What if were wrong?"
      Eriksen: "Fire"

    • @mwnciboo
      @mwnciboo 5 років тому +14

      "LOAD THE GOLD BITCHES!"

    • @MrTrizmaster
      @MrTrizmaster 5 років тому +25

      vist faen ska det skytes skarpt!!!

    • @samsmith2635
      @samsmith2635 4 роки тому

      Man after my own heart

  • @hafidzrazman5365
    @hafidzrazman5365 5 років тому +151

    "Either i will be decorated, or i will be court-martialed. Fire!"
    that line legit gave me goosebumps

    • @felixforsmark5868
      @felixforsmark5868 4 роки тому +15

      One of the most epic lines i've ever come'd across. Legendary.

  • @1Korlash
    @1Korlash 5 років тому +393

    "World War 2 ships were marvelously flammable. Anyone who has been on board a ship of that vintage will have noticed that one of the prevalent odors present is that of petroleum distillates, in the form of lubricants, solvents, gasoline, and thousands of tons of fuel oil. Added to this, of course, was the ammunition for the ship's guns, which was stored primarily in the magazines, but smaller quantities were kept in ready storage lockers near the guns for quick access during an attack. In contrast to today's warships, oil-based paints were used extensively. Wiring ways were filled with insulation that could ignite at high temperature, as could piping insulation... Damage control lockers themselves contained wooden beams for shoring, and additional shoring materiel was usually stowed in the overheads of companionways and anywhere else sufficient space could be found.
    "Warships were (and still are) full of paper--reports, forms, charts, manuals, and blueprints. Belowdecks, there was cotton bedding for the crew...as well as clothing and personal effects.... The galleys contained cooking oil, grains, and combustible foodstuffs. Grease deposits could be found in the stoves and ventilator ducts leading from these spaces. The sick bay stored ether and other volatile liquids. The ship's laundry contained uniforms and rags, as well as lint deposits in the dryers and ventilators.... The net result is that warships of the day burned easily and well."
    -Jonathan Parshall and Anthony Tully, "Shattered Sword: The Untold Story of the Battle of Midway", p. 244

    • @gasperpoklukar8372
      @gasperpoklukar8372 5 років тому +10

      I'm reading this book for the fourth time now. It's just that great.

    • @neurofiedyamato8763
      @neurofiedyamato8763 5 років тому +5

      Very very good quote from a awesome book

    • @gasperpoklukar8372
      @gasperpoklukar8372 5 років тому +19

      @@neurofiedyamato8763 I like even more the part where they calculated how much gasoline, high explosive and liquid oxygen was in Kaga's hangars before the SBDs turned her into a flaming wreck.

    • @Usammityduzntafraidofanythin
      @Usammityduzntafraidofanythin 5 років тому

      Bit obsessive of you type out two entire paragraphs, but okay

    • @gasperpoklukar8372
      @gasperpoklukar8372 5 років тому +1

      @@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin Maybe the book is in electronic form.

  • @Gia1911Logous
    @Gia1911Logous 4 роки тому +322

    "at 420 in the morning" these Germans know when to attack

    • @samsmith2635
      @samsmith2635 4 роки тому +6

      touchee

    • @Scarletraven87
      @Scarletraven87 4 роки тому +3

      Need light of the dawn to capture the city

    • @cageybee7221
      @cageybee7221 4 роки тому +18

      they must have had their dutch comanders planning that one

    • @bogdangabrielonete3467
      @bogdangabrielonete3467 3 роки тому +2

      Well, the Germans definitely got blazed

    • @RedOrm68
      @RedOrm68 3 роки тому +3

      @@cageybee7221 Dutch commander? What do you mean by Dutch commander?
      I seriously doubt there were high ranking naval officers with Dutch nationality involved in planning anything to do with the invasion of Norway.
      I suspect you mean German / Deutsch. They are our neighbors.

  • @TheCatpirate
    @TheCatpirate 5 років тому +2077

    Baz, if you can read this, we want more WW2 battles.

    • @moreDLCdaddy
      @moreDLCdaddy 5 років тому +39

      Catpirate not everyone

    • @dafrandle
      @dafrandle 5 років тому +21

      battle of 73 easting would be cool
      (I know that's not ww2)

    • @OxAO
      @OxAO 5 років тому +61

      I prefer ancient battles. WWII battles are more common.
      The ones I like the most are the ones Baz wants to do.

    • @jameswhite153
      @jameswhite153 5 років тому +49

      he could do more naval battles. that would be awesome.

    • @rovidicus9574
      @rovidicus9574 5 років тому +7

      I second this!

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 5 років тому +193

    “No warning. No hesitation. These are enemies”
    “But what if we’re wrong colonel?”
    “On my command!”, “Fire!”

    • @ambravirlebreton
      @ambravirlebreton 4 роки тому +8

      Poor Blücher honhonhon!

    • @charakiga
      @charakiga Рік тому

      I mean warships were going to their capital and wouldnt stop at warning shells, even if it wasn't invaders they kinda askes for this.

  • @chiad25
    @chiad25 5 років тому +277

    I served on Oscarsborg 25 years ago. And no, I am not related to Birger Eriksen.
    Oscarsborg was a nice and easy place to serve, especially in summer. We could watch the sunbathing girls on the other side of the strait.
    And best of all .. no war. We could calmly inspect the scars on the forthress from the bombing runs 54 years prior.
    The most dangerous things we did was to go sailing in the Oslo fjord, trying to not capsize infront of the occasionally passing cruiseship. The Germans onboard those ships were harmless.

    • @ParleLeVu
      @ParleLeVu 5 років тому +6

      @@johndesohn7973 Not 25 years ago!

    • @alexanderchristopher6237
      @alexanderchristopher6237 5 років тому +25

      You sure the best part isn't watching the girls sunbathing across the fjord? 😁

    • @Luredreier
      @Luredreier 5 років тому +8

      +@@ParleLeVu Actually, we did back then, but only female volunteers, women couldn't be drafted back then.

    • @Luredreier
      @Luredreier 5 років тому +14

      +@@johndesohn7973 While there was females in the Norwegian army from 1977 and onward they where limited to volunteers only till 2015 when women and men ended up with equal duty to serve and could be conscripted on equal terms.
      Ours forces are still adapting to that change to some degrees.

    • @ParleLeVu
      @ParleLeVu 5 років тому +2

      @@Luredreier When I was in in 07/08 there were 2 women per 40 men. And that was an increase, so in 1970's it'd have to be like 1 to 100.

  • @mace8873
    @mace8873 4 роки тому +144

    I reckon anyone watching this video, will appreciate a bit of additional information, so here goes.
    The task force was first spotted on the 8th of April a little after 23.00 by the Norwegian patrol boat Pol III, which was then engaged and set ablaze by the German torpedo boat Albatros. Pol III managed to radio in the attack. At around 23.30 the southern battery on Rauøya on the eastern side of the Olso Fjord inlet fired warning shots with 2, 15cm guns, and 5 minutes later additionally 4 aimed shots, none hit their target due to poor visibility. At 23.32 Bolærne battery on the western side of the inlet, fired a warning shot with one of its 3, 7.5cm cannons. Blücher was out of the battery's line of fire by 23.35, and at midnight all lighthouses were ordered to turn off their lights. AT 00.15 Col. Eriksen contacted the chief of police in Drøbak, who began an evacuation of the town. At 01.00 he spoke to the commanding officer at Bolærne battery, and they assumed the invading force was German. Between 00.30 and 02.00, the task force stopped while transferring 150 troops of the landing force to escorts R17 and R21 from Emden, and R18 and R19 from Blücher and subsequently, the R-boats were ordered to engage Rauøya, Bolærne and the naval port and city of Horten on the west coast of Oslo Fjord, about halfway between the Rauøya/Bolærne batteries, and Oscarsborg. At the same time, the Norwegian government held a meeting, and at this point, they were aware that the invading ships were German, but the information never reached Oscaorsborg.
    At 03.38 Col. Eriksen was contacted by Filtvet lighthouse, reporting 2 large ships with their lights out had passed, and that one of the sailors on the guard ship Furu had heard someone onboard one of the ships speak German, at 03.45 he received a telephone call, informing him that the guard ships at Filtvet, roughly 11.5km south of Oscarsborg, were being bypassed by a group of 7 ships total, including 3 cruisers. At 04.00 he got a call from Stjenås, located opposite Filtvet, reporting that two minutes prior, 3 cruisers and 2 smaller ships had passed. 18 minutes later reports from Drøbak came in, mentioning 5 ships - 1 large and 4 smaller, were heading into the fjord. As mentioned in the video, the Oscarsborg battery opened fire around 04.20 (some sources put the time at 04.21, but meh). At the same time, the batteries at Husvik and Kopås on the eastern side opened up with 15cm and 5.7cm guns respectively, Husvik scored 13 hits and Kopås 30 on Blücher. For some reason, Nesset battery equipped with 4, 5.7cm guns, located on the western shore about 850m SW of Oscarsborg didn't fire, neither did Leina battery located further west and equipped with 2, 7.5cm guns. Husvik battery was evacuated after a direct hit from Blücher, and Kopås shifted its attention to the next ship in the line, Lützow.
    A bit of info on the torpedo battery - It had three "bays" if you like, with 2 torpedo racks each for a total at 6 torpedos loaded at a time. After firing, the rack had to be lifted out of the water and reloaded. The battery had 6 torpedos ready to fire, and nine more in reserve, but as we're all aware, 2 was enough.
    Hope someone finds it useful.:-)

  • @elefandados8624
    @elefandados8624 5 років тому +698

    Your pronunciation of norwegian words is really good, and you take your time in saying them. So good and refreshing from other english speakers.
    Signed a norwegian

    • @chinguunerdenebadrakh7022
      @chinguunerdenebadrakh7022 5 років тому +10

      People always take care on "minority" languages.
      But don't give much thought if it's a big language. For example, Blücher is NOT pronounced like that, it's read as Blüher. This bothered me a lot.

    • @elefandados8624
      @elefandados8624 5 років тому +15

      @@chinguunerdenebadrakh7022 I always thought it was pronounced "Blykjer" (from a norwegian perspective).

    • @jlongcheck246
      @jlongcheck246 5 років тому +20

      Chinguun Erdenebadrakh its not read as blüher wtf

    • @ChrisDynamo
      @ChrisDynamo 5 років тому +8

      It's funny how foreigners demand that their language is pronounced exactly as they would speak, and yet people can speak English with the thickest accent imaginable and that's okay.

    • @elefandados8624
      @elefandados8624 5 років тому +34

      @@ChrisDynamo I don't demand anything, I was simply positively surprised at his good pronounciation of norwegian words. When I speak english I try to hide my accent as best as I can. A foul accent sounds foul to us too

  • @claymore2000
    @claymore2000 5 років тому +532

    Wow. You guys made a video 3 seconds short of the 10 minute mark. Mad respect. You guys make history fun!

    • @ludvigwallman3720
      @ludvigwallman3720 5 років тому +11

      Ginger Ale how is that respectful? Is maximising your profits from a well-made video disrespectful?

    • @jonatanlj747
      @jonatanlj747 5 років тому +72

      @@ludvigwallman3720 It's a sign that it's more about making actually good history videos than stretching them to the 10-minute mark and making bank

    • @Hasharin14
      @Hasharin14 5 років тому +15

      Considering it's a sponsored video...

    • @gasperpoklukar8372
      @gasperpoklukar8372 5 років тому +3

      @@jonatanlj747 Why not both?

    • @dominiquecharriere1285
      @dominiquecharriere1285 5 років тому +4

      I didn't know there was a 10 min mark

  • @tombroadhurst6728
    @tombroadhurst6728 5 років тому +168

    I just watched "The Kings Choice" last night! It is a great movie about the invasion of Norway and the role Norway's ceremonial king played in it. It has a scene about this battle, I absolutely recommend watching it!

    • @MotRi1986
      @MotRi1986 5 років тому +19

      It is a surprisingly great movie :) Fun fact about it, the actor that plays Colonel Eriksen is the father of Kristoffer Hivju aka Tormund Giantsbane from game of thrones.

    • @khornedbeef7916
      @khornedbeef7916 5 років тому +6

      ua-cam.com/video/YZ79i11JSnU/v-deo.html

  • @Stiann86
    @Stiann86 5 років тому +91

    "no warning, no hesitation, these are enemies . On my command, FIRE"
    Birger Eriksen, Commander of Oscarsborg

  • @PolluxA
    @PolluxA 5 років тому +150

    "Visst fanden skal der skytest med skarpt!" "Certain as the devil shall we use live rounds"

    • @MartieD
      @MartieD 5 років тому +5

      Or "Damn right we're using live ammunition"

    • @PolluxA
      @PolluxA 5 років тому +4

      @@MartieD Or "You are damn right we shall use live rounds"
      "Damn right we shall use live ammunition"
      "You're damn right we're going to fire live ammunition.
      "Damn right we're going to fire live rounds"
      "Damn right we're using live rounds"
      Or a direct translation
      "Certain devil shall there firing with sharp"
      'Certain as the devil' is not an English expression and will caught someones attention right away.

  • @TsarofScars
    @TsarofScars 5 років тому +362

    Can we have more naval battles, I'm loving these

    • @PerfidiousPuffin
      @PerfidiousPuffin 5 років тому +3

      Seconded

    • @e1123581321345589144
      @e1123581321345589144 5 років тому +6

      Ah, but what about DRAGONS!

    • @lideruploader6577
      @lideruploader6577 5 років тому +6

      You know nothing Jon Snow.

    • @TsarofScars
      @TsarofScars 5 років тому +1

      @@e1123581321345589144 I'm already riding a dragon, give me something original

    • @TsarofScars
      @TsarofScars 5 років тому +3

      @@lideruploader6577 I do know some things. Like where to put it.

  • @lancegideondiokno1774
    @lancegideondiokno1774 3 роки тому +16

    KMS Blucher: exists
    Eriksen: *YEET IT IN THE SEA*

  • @imranhazim5434
    @imranhazim5434 4 роки тому +20

    Eriksen: Captain Andreas, we need you to command torpedo battery.
    Andreas: Well, there goes my retirement.

  • @mineralin641
    @mineralin641 4 роки тому +10

    if anyone is wondering why a ship couldn't avoid the torpedo battery by going on the west side of Oscarsborg, that's because there's a large underwater wall built there to stop large ships from passing on that side. i believe it is still there

    • @gugenet
      @gugenet 2 роки тому +1

      It is still there, just a few feet under the surface. Unless you're in a dingy, look for the lateral marks for two small passages.

  • @devinbae9914
    @devinbae9914 5 років тому +50

    Lol, the germans got hit by their own manufactured Krupp guns.

    • @themightyranger6321
      @themightyranger6321 5 років тому +16

      Eriksen himself had also been trained at berlin lol

    • @nazarderkach9320
      @nazarderkach9320 4 роки тому +4

      And some old rusty torpedoes from their Austrian friends.

    • @sneakywoolcarpet1341
      @sneakywoolcarpet1341 3 роки тому +1

      And the guns had Hebrew names as well (Not sure why, but they did). "Aaron", "Moses" and "Joshua".

  • @orno0321
    @orno0321 5 років тому +40

    Blucher: *Exists*
    Birger: _Hippety hoppity_

    • @matro2
      @matro2 4 роки тому +2

      @@themightyranger6321 But the Kriegsmarine used Norway as their property for the next five years.

    • @dr.zombine3719
      @dr.zombine3719 4 роки тому +2

      Hippety hoppity, sink in my property.

    • @bigtony4930
      @bigtony4930 4 роки тому +6

      Hipper-ty*

    • @MaxwellAerialPhotography
      @MaxwellAerialPhotography 3 роки тому

      Your hull is now Norwegian property.

  • @MultiDyre
    @MultiDyre 5 років тому +2

    Must have been a pretty funny conversation between the Colonel and the officer he sent to command the torpedo station.
    "Captain, take some men and prepare the underwater torpedo station."
    "Sir, you mean the one that's FORTY YEARS OLD and was probably not even cutting edge back in World War I?"
    "Yes captain, that one exactly!"

    • @PlacidDragon
      @PlacidDragon 5 років тому

      Its even funnier when you realize that the commander of the Torpedo battery had been retired for 13 years (he retired in 1927), and had been called back the day before as the regular commander was on sick leave :)

    • @luxborealis
      @luxborealis 4 роки тому

      To be specific the torpedoes were cutting edge when they were installed in 1905, a secret weapon to stop the anticipated Swedish naval attack up the Oslo Fjord in response to the collapse of the Swedish-Norwegian Union.

  • @minhvo8009
    @minhvo8009 5 років тому +45

    You know how unlucky you are when a badge of not very well-trained artillery gunners hit you in almost every shots and 2 super old torpedoes worked and sunk your ship.

    • @bcn1gh7h4wk
      @bcn1gh7h4wk 5 років тому +6

      your *flag* ship.
      *flag* being the key word there.

    • @captain0080
      @captain0080 4 роки тому +1

      Old ammo still works, in 2000 i fired a few rifle grenades which were best used before 1980. One of the safety pins was so rusted it crumbled in my fingers and the rest had to be pulled with tweezers.

    • @agwhitaker
      @agwhitaker 4 роки тому +9

      Yup, very old guns, and very green troops.
      However, also very big guns, and VERY short range.
      Sort of like holding an egg against the wall with the barrel of a 12 gauge shotgun and wondering if you can hit it.

    • @cgaccount3669
      @cgaccount3669 4 роки тому +1

      Odd the Germans didn't fire back. I guess they were sneaking up? And too busy after they were hit?

    • @gamarus0kragh
      @gamarus0kragh 4 роки тому +3

      @@cgaccount3669 The second hit from the big 28cm guns hit the no. 2 turret (Bruno on German ships) towards the rear of the turret and ripped it open. This apparently knocked out the electrics to all the directed guns (main 20.3cm and 10.5cm secondaries) and for the 5-7 minutes the ship would have range on the Norwegian batteries, they were paralyzed. Blücher did use her light anti-air defenses and drove the crews off two light 57mm cannons that shelled Blücher after the two 28cm guns had their say. (In addition Blücher was hit by thirteen 15cm shells from another heavy battery, not much mentioned, but this fire wrought severe damage in and off itself, jamming the rudder and knocking out her fire fighting equipment). This is from the Wiki article on the Battle of Drøbak Sound.

  • @ObzTicle
    @ObzTicle 4 роки тому +9

    There's a scene in a film called: The Kings Choice. Where this event happens. Fantastic scene, when you can watch it!

    • @charlieross-BRM
      @charlieross-BRM 2 роки тому

      Very good movie. I was expecting it to be more of an action movie because the preview focused on the firing of the main gun from the fort but that was about the extant of it. The rest as you know was about the King and the government trying to decide what was best for the country which is what wars are really about anyway.

  • @freshfish7529
    @freshfish7529 Рік тому +2

    “Either I will be decorated or I will be court martialed. Fire”
    One of the most bone chilling quotes of the Norwegian campaign

  • @TehIdiotOne
    @TehIdiotOne 5 років тому +24

    For anyone watching this, i urge you to watch the clip of this battle from the movie "The King's Choice(Kongens Nei), it's pretty well made even if condensed a little to how the real events unfolded.

  • @Sprottel_SFM
    @Sprottel_SFM 4 роки тому +28

    Oslo:
    Blücher: "Im about to end this whole mans career"
    Whitehead torpedo: *im about to end this man*

  • @daledupont3772
    @daledupont3772 3 роки тому +3

    65 year old commander, 40 year old torpedoes. A training base. And good shooting too. We should have more of these, everywhere.

  • @simonhole8661
    @simonhole8661 Рік тому +2

    My father in law was 5 years old and lived in Drøbak when this happened. They went to the coastal fortress wall to see what was happening. Because the fjord was covered in oil it caught fire. He remembers as a child seeing the horses and men swimming around in a sea of flames screeming as they were consumed.

  • @shrubby-ov4yw
    @shrubby-ov4yw Рік тому +1

    This is the living embodiment of the mouse seeing the eagle swooping in to grab it just stood there flipping it off in one last great act of defiance

  • @SebHaarfagre
    @SebHaarfagre 4 роки тому +9

    As a Norwegian (history buff), this evokes quite a lot of emotions in me, pride of course is one of them. We never stood a match against such a war machine, but we never give way either. We are one of the most unified people in the world that I know of... even in a Union we were always one country in spirit; one of the reasons our declaration of independence basically went unchallenged when it first came.
    I understand fully that the impact of the war in Norway pales in comparison to the major actors... however I've yet to meet/see one person who has *not* underestimated Norway's participation and resistance (fellow Norwegians included).
    Read up on Weserübung and the campaigns in Norway in general... you'll be surprised.
    Norway fought back like a badger... but how much different it could have looked if they had managed to capture our king and closest government/staff!
    The British (under Chamberlain) failed us miserably, luckily the German campaign did as well, thanks to a few VERY brave individual souls.

    • @JG-ib7xk
      @JG-ib7xk 4 роки тому

      How did the British fail Norway!? Britain was left fighting the Nazis on her own. Norway refused to defend or aid any of the European countries that had been invaded by the Nazis, and then starts crying when they themselves gey invaded and the only country left (UK) doesn't use all their troops to help Norway and leave the UK vulnerable. You can't say that the UK failed Norway. Norway failed Europe, it failed the world by refusing to fight the Nazis, and it failed its own people. No wonder so many of the most violent SS soldiers were from Norway, when the Norwegians never wanted to stop the mass murder being carried out by the Nazis.

    • @SebHaarfagre
      @SebHaarfagre 3 роки тому +2

      @@JG-ib7xk Did you see the "under Chamberlain" part of my comment? Read up.
      Also Norway was neutral and had to fight both allies and axis indirectly; the British would shamelessly minelay Norwegian waters and sink Norwegian fishing/commercial vessels.
      It was when Norway joined the Allies (after being attacked) that basically every campaign under Chamberlain deliberately chose to ignore any/all of Norwegian suggestions, leading in the task forces utter destruction - including hundreds of lives of both Poles and French as well. All countermeasures to Axis agression was half-hearted and not at all thought through, until Churchill took over. Chamberlain was a disaster to Norway, since all operations he undertook only meant to further destruction of Norwegian soil with no other outcome than Norwegians being punished for it.
      "The only country left"
      "Use all their troops to help Norway"
      "Leave UK vulnerable"
      "Norway failed Europe"
      "Refusing to fight the Nazis"
      "Failed its own people"
      "SS soldiers from Norway"
      "Never wanted to stop the mass murder"
      The rest of your comment is complete and utter hilarious bullshit with absolutely no coherence or root in reality so I won't even bother to reply to that :)
      Next time also maybe try to actually _listen_ to what people are saying before going full bonkers on them... you get paid in full return, of the way you behave yourself.
      Have a nice day.

  • @simsesnorsk8335
    @simsesnorsk8335 3 роки тому +9

    I live in Drøbak and i actually have my own boat even thogh im only 14 years old. But in 2020 (now time) Oscarsborg has a hotel and some resturants, aswell as that the whole borg is a museum now has tons of guests. I love oscarsborg and it is so cool to live in this little town that has such a big history from the ww2. Great video by the way :)

    • @realprouddad
      @realprouddad 3 роки тому

      i also live in Drøbak :0

    • @adelarsen9776
      @adelarsen9776 Рік тому

      @@realprouddad It's not too late to escape.

  • @jerrybutrustyboi6866
    @jerrybutrustyboi6866 3 роки тому +1

    What I learned from this.
    Never underestimate anyone.
    And a 28cm caliber shell, no mater how outdated, is still a 28cm caliber shell about to tear through your deck.

  • @safe-keeper1042
    @safe-keeper1042 4 роки тому +1

    I love that they make whole in-depth documentaries, and even commission other channels to do the same, to advertise their games. There were details in this even I as a Norwegian was aware of. Loved that you made the effort to learn the pronounciation of Norwegian names, too, that's such a nice touch. What a wonderful way to do get PR.

  • @SVanHutten
    @SVanHutten 5 років тому +3

    Baz: The level of your productions is matched only by the crystal clear treatment the subject is given. Also, you have a gift for naval operations. That said, IMHO, you are perhaps the only one in position to give a very famous and complex piece of history the treatment it deserves: The St. Nazaire Raid.

  • @SimplySpace
    @SimplySpace 5 років тому +3

    I love your WWII videos, they're so fascinating to watch!

  • @thelawofficeofjamesdwade7025
    @thelawofficeofjamesdwade7025 5 років тому +1

    As always, great stuff. Thank you for putting these together.

  • @grand-dadmiral
    @grand-dadmiral 5 років тому +3

    I'm still amazed by your editing skills, and all the more curious on how you make it all work.

  • @Neptune0404
    @Neptune0404 4 роки тому +9

    HEIA NORGE! I love ww2 stories about Norway. I'm not normally very patriotic, but damn if this era doesn't stir up something inside me.

  • @neilwilson5785
    @neilwilson5785 5 років тому +3

    Wonderful video. The graphics are really clear and nice to look at. Narration is crisp and concise. Nicely done.

  • @jrfjhh5636
    @jrfjhh5636 5 років тому +1

    Awsome quality, great job!

  • @gmat5046
    @gmat5046 2 роки тому +2

    Can we draw attention to the fact that the skeleton crew, maybe In training, hit the ship spot on with the first shot. Edit punctuation.

  • @donfelipe7510
    @donfelipe7510 5 років тому +35

    Go Norway! I commented on this heavily in another video, the fortress commander Erikson was a hero without a doubt, when he first fired he had no idea whether the ships were British or German. As much as the Royal navy had violated Norwegian neutrality in the 'Altmark Incident' and by laying mines (justified) he was correct in assuming that the British probably would not take the action of sending warships to threaten Norway's capital city.

    • @unholyfiretruck3531
      @unholyfiretruck3531 5 років тому +9

      i agree with you, but you should keep in mind that the allied troops that later arrived to join the fight were originally meant to invade and "garrison" Norway. the British were simply the lesser of to evils in the perspective of Norway until the Germans invaded first only a few days ahead of the British, who then sent their already assembled troops as reinforcements

    • @joshando4092
      @joshando4092 5 років тому +9

      Don Felipe The difference is Britain respected the Norwegian democratic rights, their sovereign rights, their monarchy and their independence, Germany couldn’t have given two fucks. Britain would never have invaded Norway, and only under the most unfortunate circumstances did we have to, this was the lesser of two evils for sure, and we liberated Norway in the end. Greetings from Britain

    • @olekristiangrindheim2931
      @olekristiangrindheim2931 5 років тому

      @@joshando4092 and for reward you only get a Xmas tree every year :)

    • @wutlebuck
      @wutlebuck 5 років тому +10

      Mine laying was justified only in hindsight, due to the German invasion. However, at the time, it was an act of war, and the first of many British violations of sovereignity. The british were the first agressors, and promptly dragged Norway into the war. Iceland got invaded by the british aswell. In hindsight, it was the lesser of two evils, but one shall not forget it for what it really was.

    • @owenlindkvist5355
      @owenlindkvist5355 5 років тому +10

      @@joshando4092 The fact that the British were well under way in planning to violate Norway's territory and sovereignty pretty much rebukes your notion of the British "respecting" those factors.

  • @sgtspiffywiffy5799
    @sgtspiffywiffy5799 5 років тому +120

    i think you need to do some Roman stuff like the battle of Pharsalus between Caesar vs Pompée
    or the battle of Mons WW1, again a period of history you haven't covered yet

    • @nausherwanbabry
      @nausherwanbabry 5 років тому +4

      BATTLE OF PHARSALUS YES PLEASE!!!!

    • @marcschubert139
      @marcschubert139 5 років тому +5

      History Civilis has all of those battles covered. It's another really good history channel on here.

    • @dilkhozaimarwat3479
      @dilkhozaimarwat3479 5 років тому +4

      i think we should have something that no history channel has covered, new things are more interesting. historia civilis and kings and generals hv beaten the shit out of roman history

    • @piemelfriemel8718
      @piemelfriemel8718 5 років тому +2

      Pompée? What are you, French?

    • @sgtspiffywiffy5799
      @sgtspiffywiffy5799 5 років тому +3

      @@piemelfriemel8718 (looks at profile picture) ye mate, ya nailed it

  • @kickit246
    @kickit246 5 років тому

    I absolutely love your warships videos. Thank you for doing them :)

  • @Dv087
    @Dv087 4 роки тому

    New to your channel. Love the WW II videos. Great format. Great pre-battle history. Keep up the great work 👍

  • @jpmatar10
    @jpmatar10 5 років тому +16

    One of the best history Channel with tactical explanation here on UA-cam
    Keep teaching us Baz!! Whatever antique or modern Battles!!

  • @jernamanuel143
    @jernamanuel143 2 роки тому +3

    The Kriegsmarine
    The ships that can be taken out by outdated weapons

  • @HankHill11
    @HankHill11 5 років тому

    these WW2 naval battle videos are the best by far, keep up the good work

  • @Wick9876
    @Wick9876 5 років тому

    Thank you! I knew the general outcome of this engagement but never saw a map, knew nothing about the fortress except that it had torpedoes, and nothing at all about the people involved. This nicely fills that hole.

  • @AlshainFR
    @AlshainFR 5 років тому +16

    Great video! I appreciate your cover of naval battle. Maybe you could try your hand at pre-WW2 ones like Trafalgar, Jutland or Tsushima?

    • @backalleycqc4790
      @backalleycqc4790 5 років тому +2

      I've seen several versions of Jutland, however, knowing the skills these guys have in creating first-class documentary, it would be awesome!! An enormous "yes" to Trafalgar!!!

    • @PerfidiousPuffin
      @PerfidiousPuffin 5 років тому

      Agreed

  • @hydroaegis6658
    @hydroaegis6658 3 роки тому +3

    I love how the commander looks EXACTLY like how I imagine a hardass colonel to look like.

  • @hansmarheim7620
    @hansmarheim7620 4 роки тому +2

    This is by far, the best documentary about the events in droebaksund , 1940, I have ever seen.

  • @gregepp3082
    @gregepp3082 5 років тому

    Great content! love this stuff, keep it coming!

  • @Amirreza_Karimi
    @Amirreza_Karimi 4 роки тому +3

    Damn I love your videos. They are superb, with warm voice, stunning visuals and also great sound design. Keep up the good work man. With great love from Iran.

  • @denniscleary7580
    @denniscleary7580 5 років тому +62

    Excellent another World War II battle 👍

  • @hoangdaniel4359
    @hoangdaniel4359 5 років тому

    Omg finally a new video! Keep making videos man!! Amazing works!

  • @someguyfromarcticfreezer6854
    @someguyfromarcticfreezer6854 3 роки тому +1

    Austri-Hungary: "We have no sea whatsoever"
    Norway: "Can we purchase you torpedoes?"

    • @mema0005
      @mema0005 3 роки тому

      Austro-Hungarian Empire not Austria and Hungary. The Empire included Slovenia and Croatia

  • @benlaskowski357
    @benlaskowski357 3 роки тому +4

    Those 11.1-inch guns dated to 1897. . .but at that range they packed a mighty punch.

  • @marinbutkovic7117
    @marinbutkovic7117 3 роки тому +3

    wow..40 yrs old Whithead torpedoes..made in fiume...i suppose.👌.i work in a shipyard 100 meters from where torpedo was invented

  • @mjakobsen1701
    @mjakobsen1701 5 років тому +2

    Really happy when I saw the title, never even considered the possibility of this getting its own video. Underrated and very important battle, the movie Kongens Nei (The King's Choice) has a very well-made scene depicting all this, highly recommended

  • @iupetre
    @iupetre 5 років тому

    Amazing work as always!

  • @ulflyng4072
    @ulflyng4072 5 років тому +3

    Torpedos manned by a Captain Ret.
    Respect to the Finns and Norwegians. They did an extraordinary feat during that war. Result is the russians stayed out of northern Norway/Finland, and Finland stayed free during the Cold War

    • @KIRILL-fl7cp
      @KIRILL-fl7cp 4 роки тому

      Because of the finns helping the Nazis more then 600K civilians died during 900 day brutal siege of Leningrad...so yeah, really exstraodinary feat you know

    • @ulflyng4072
      @ulflyng4072 4 роки тому

      @@KIRILL-fl7cp that's true. just role over and get it, when the bully wants to do you

    • @KIRILL-fl7cp
      @KIRILL-fl7cp 4 роки тому

      Yeah, those hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians were such bullies. Nice logic dude appreciate that

    • @ulflyng4072
      @ulflyng4072 4 роки тому +1

      @@KIRILL-fl7cp The finns fought for their country. Got it. Like the Poles today. It costs. Everything has a price.Sry, but roling over costs more
      Stop trolling

  • @eduardocornejo2903
    @eduardocornejo2903 5 років тому +3

    Wish you had the power to post a video everyday. I live for these videos

  • @colecrosby2433
    @colecrosby2433 5 років тому +1

    Keep these naval battles coming, I love them!

  • @suntzugames
    @suntzugames 5 років тому

    Keep up the great work, your videos are slick and easy to follow :)

  • @miming3679
    @miming3679 2 роки тому +6

    Germany would've won this if only they had aerial mages commanded by a 10 year old

  • @JustConfused3520
    @JustConfused3520 3 роки тому +3

    "Blucher, Ill protect you this time"
    - The Lead Ship

  • @KorpraaliKuha
    @KorpraaliKuha 5 років тому

    I just LOVE these videos so much. Your voice is soooo good and it's so interesting.

  • @dogeyt5995
    @dogeyt5995 5 років тому +2

    You are the best at this kind of content, definitely bazbattles!😄

  • @Cheezymuffin.
    @Cheezymuffin. 3 роки тому +9

    "Nice cruiser nerd, looks great on the sea bed."
    -The Nowegians probably

  • @elfajaro
    @elfajaro 4 роки тому +3

    Wow, I didn't knew anything about this battle. The video was incredible, just like the others involving the Kriegsmarine. Helps visualizing how things happened

    • @englishalan222
      @englishalan222 4 роки тому +1

      The casualties suffered by the Kriegsmarine during the Norwegian Campaign were so heavy that they helped convince Hitler that an invasion of Britain was impossible, that and the defeat of his Luftwaffe at the hands of the RAF

  • @patriickmoreiira
    @patriickmoreiira 5 років тому

    Awesome!! Looking forward to see more WWII videos, hopes for landing battles as well.

  • @JeyyArtsify
    @JeyyArtsify 5 років тому

    This videos was fantastic, thank you very much for your content.

  • @cjay7265
    @cjay7265 5 років тому +43

    Geez these videos are insane, WE NEED MORE WW2 Videos!!!

  • @tadeuszsa8314
    @tadeuszsa8314 5 років тому +9

    Amazing. You should do something about Lepanto, Malta or Biccoca.

  • @MultiDyre
    @MultiDyre 5 років тому +2

    It's always good to hear about these little stories. Colonel Erikson and his trainees might not have been involved in the famous battles, but their contribution - taking out a German heavy cruiser and stalling the German invasion - along with all the "minor" contributions of so many others like them, helped tipped the scale against the German war machine.

  • @snacko30
    @snacko30 5 років тому

    I love this type of video that you guys make, naval combat of WWII.

  • @BloodyAltima
    @BloodyAltima 4 роки тому +6

    The Kriegsmarine: The only navy to have a cruiser lose a pitched battle with a shore battery.

    • @S0RGEx
      @S0RGEx 4 роки тому +5

      An outdated battery mainly crewed by trainees, no less.

    • @belfast4893
      @belfast4893 3 роки тому

      Let’s continue
      United States Navy: the only navy that have a destroyer blown up trying to be a hero and save a carrier 🤣 and the carrier sunk anyways.. Sorry Hamman
      Imperial Japanese Navy : Only Navy thst have a Cartier sunk by single torpedo
      Royal Navy : literally have their flagship, mightiest at that time one shotted
      Marine Nationale:Lost their entire fleet sunk by allies
      Regia Maria: Victim of the longest naval gun salvo in history.
      I’d the the worst goes to RO

  • @ultima2196
    @ultima2196 5 років тому +12

    Can you make a video about Battle of the Bulge or Battle of France ?

  • @AM-lc3ur
    @AM-lc3ur 5 років тому

    Love the content, love the channel keep up the good work

  • @BravoSixGoingDark
    @BravoSixGoingDark 5 років тому

    Epic Battle. Informative video!

  • @plaguedoctor9881
    @plaguedoctor9881 5 років тому +4

    I knew this battle right before the video started but I still watched it. Very great video!
    Guys, watch the movie" King's choice ". It's a great movie.

  • @JMRolf1
    @JMRolf1 5 років тому +6

    A valiant battle from the Norwegian side. This area of conflict doesn't get enough attention in western media

    • @JG-ib7xk
      @JG-ib7xk 4 роки тому

      Rightly so. Why should the western media care about a country like Norway that refused to defend Europe and the world from the Nazis. They deserved to be invaded as soon as they declared that they didn't mind the mass killing of civilians done by the Nazis. No moral human being can stand by and say what the Nazis were doing throughout Europe was ok, but Norway and their citizens did. They saw it, and didn't care.

    • @belfast4893
      @belfast4893 3 роки тому

      Well tbh this was a short victory until Germans reclaimed their pride and took over for the next few years of war. And tbh the loss of Blucher was just simply human stupidity. If only the Germans fired their 8 and 11 inch guns earlier, that fortress would be occupied earlier

  • @Jord858
    @Jord858 5 років тому

    Love these videos big Baz keep em coming

  • @MusicReign
    @MusicReign 4 роки тому +1

    More "sea battles"!!!!!!!!!! These are literally the best sea battle videos on youtube and IMO the best BazBattles videos!!! LOVE the visualization

  • @seonruiz4835
    @seonruiz4835 5 років тому +25

    All I am going to say is I have seen that clip from The Kings Choice too many times.

  • @Klaxxor28
    @Klaxxor28 5 років тому +3

    I could watch these WWII battles ALL DAY LONG. I would pay for them.. thank you for these. Awesome work.

  • @Archersrevenge
    @Archersrevenge 5 років тому +1

    I love hearing about stories like this that I haven't been exposed to before :)
    Keep 'em coming Baz

  • @Dingsrud
    @Dingsrud 3 роки тому

    The torpedo hits are different from what is stated here according to reports onboard Blücher. The first torpedo hit was under the bridge in the aft boiler room just ahead of the amidship frame. The next hit 10 m aft of the first, hitting turbine room 2/3. The second 20,3cm artillery hit had disrupted the steam supply to the centre propeller turbine. The ship was now without propulsion.
    Number of casualties are not known, but believed to be about 350.

  • @a05odst62
    @a05odst62 5 років тому +61

    Love the modern warfare videos, keep it up!

  • @KlunkerRider
    @KlunkerRider 4 роки тому +10

    This is depicted most brilliantly in the movie "The Kings Choice"

  • @gamingfanatic1327
    @gamingfanatic1327 5 років тому

    Fabulous Video as always :)

  • @theleeharveyoswaldexperien1883
    @theleeharveyoswaldexperien1883 3 роки тому +1

    The Kings Choice really captured this battle well.