Smart Pro Pricing??? - BEFORE You Buy | Locksmithing 101
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- Опубліковано 20 лип 2024
- Locksmithing 101: PJ deep dives into Smart PRO pricing! There are 4 possible ways to use the smart pro: Software, Tokens, UTP, and a hybrid option. The question is, which one is best for your locksmithing business? PJ breaks down all options, and who the perfect customer is for each. Watch here to learn about Smart PRO pricing and let us know any questions you have in the comment below!
0:00 - Intro
1:32 - Purchasing Software
3:59 - Purchasing Tokens
6:49 - Purchasing UTP
9:05 - Hybrid Option
11:41 - Overview
13:43 - Bloopers
15:19 - How to Participate in our #Lockboss Giveaway!
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That seems highly expensive compared to the programmer options out there. Very well explained. Thanks
Advanced Diagnostics is no longer competitive in my opinion. Just to expensive for small businesses and private customers. The machine itself is more expensive, it requires tokens or plan(per use cost); there are just so many other equally capable machines it makes you wonder if AD is just out of touch or what...
Yes it is, but you dont need to worry about any car programming, i have Autel508 which is great for Gm cars also toyotas and etc , also i have Xtool which is good to make nissans and a lot of brands , but whole day i was looking Smart Pro programming videos to a lot of cars which my programators can't do and smart pro can. Also what i see you can save a lot of time to program key with smart pro than with another computers. UTP is best , another options are just waste of money if you are doing 6-10 cars in day , 267 month and you can use all software , Great guys.
Thanks for the video. Explains a lot of questions. I was looking at the smart pro before I bought my Autek. Didn't understand the tokens now I do. For a beginner I think I made the right choice
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🙌-PJ
5th option. Buy the AutoProPad, IM608 or 508, Autek or any other machine and if it can't do it, use the SmartPro as a fill in machine on a token eater program. Even having a SmartPro, you will need a backup programmer/programmers for cars it just will not do. No programmer is perfect. #LockBoss
5th option love it,haha yeah no programmer is perfect but all in all I think the smart pro is by far the best overall on the market. -PJ
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Is there a comparison anywhere that any of you know of that shows what cars the smart pro can program that the auto pro pad can’t? Can the smart pro reflash like the auto pro pad? And now the VVDI has came out with what appears to be a sweet programmer that can do many European cars and do cloning all in one. #lockboss
6th option stays away from smart pro or advanced diagnostic because they're soooo smart they will rip you off big time
@@clksupplies I think there token system is to much money. Maybe $15 to $20 per token would be better.
Thanks for that informative breakdown of the true programmer costs of the Smart PRO. You have helped clear up a lot of questions in my mind, PJ! Good job! #AccessLockKeyLLC #LockBoss
Great to hear, thank you-PJ
Great breakdown on pricing. We’ve been debating whether to step up to another programmer. This helps with the decision process #lockboss
This is a pretty complicated pricing model and certainly worthy of this detailed explanation. Thanks for laying it all out in an easy to understand video; trying to sort this out otherwise would be challenging. #LockBoss
Thanks Doug-PJ
This is a great overview...well thought out and easy to apply....thank you #lockboss
Thanks for the explaining the Smart Pro pricing so clearly PJ! I am not there yet in terms of another programmer investment. The Autek and Auto Pro Pad Lite handle 98% of everything I come across. CLK's Autek ikey 820 w/ the transponder bundle paid for itself in a month and is by far the best investment any entry level automotive Locksmith can make. #lockboss
Yes! Love to hear it-PJ
#Lockboss The UTP makes so much more sense for overall usage. Unfortunately, it starts the countdown for that month right after
Install. No jobs, means lost time. Tokens on the other hand is a per use, or per vehicle 🤔. Will let me do what I need to do when I have the job, and store them until I need it again. I have the autek right now, but also leaning towards the smart pro as a backup for what the autek can't do for free. Decisions, decisions lol. Thanks again PJ, gives us a lot to think about, and helps with the process.
Yeah, the utp starts on the first vehicle you download. Getting a 250pk tokens might do the trick but it's expensive up front....-PJ
Thank you for that explanation. Really helped.
Great to hear! Thanks-PJ
Thanks for explaining these options PJ, since I was one of them that asked. #Lockboss
That was a nice way to view all those options. I'm trying to determine if go with AD or autel!!! #Lockboss
Thanks for sharing very good information
thanks for the info. it's about what I thought we don't do enough cars right now to justify the smart pro. keeping a eye out on that Silica, going against the Rytan 200. now that's going to be a battle.
Yes!-PJ
That was a great look into the ups and downs with cost vrs. Use.
This will help a lot of people for sure.
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Thanks-PJ
I’ve wondered about this, thanks for explaining! #LockBoss
Nice training, PJ
I am pretty sure the pricing you quoted for tokens was the old pricing. Pricing came down (it's not a sale, it's new lower pricing) 10 tokens are now 250.00 etc.
I do the token route and am fairly happy with that. Because I am still green I make mistakes sometimes and end up costing me an additional token. AD is not very forgiving on replacing a token if it is our fault. They should be more forgiving as there is no real training other than their videos and their videos are no where as good as yours. Those techs like to show how fast they can do a car, they are not really trying to teach. Your videos are the best out there for programming. Thanks #Lockboss
I'll have to check, thank you-PJ
So informative. Thank you PJ
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Great topic and thank you so much for the answers. I turn away so much car work cause I just didn’t know where to start in the programmer arena or the questions to ask. Thanks! #lockboss
Thank you, glad it was helpful-PJ
Thank you for explaining this so clearly ! Greatly appreciated! #LOCKBOSS
Good thing I waited to the end of the video. I was going to say I was looking into getting into programming keys and was leaning into the Autek which I know in a video that was posted that support would come from a Facebook group. #lockboss also I wanted to follow up to see if the esp 339 was shipped. Last update I had was that shipping was delayed but was scheduled to ship out on Thursday which was yesterday.
Sorry, I am not sure. I believe they are shipping right now. I'm sure you will hear soon-PJ
Thank you for the explanation. I've been wondering about the Smart Pro and the token process. I have another manufacturer's programmer that I love and it doesn't have a token procedure. #Lockboss
We have just about every kind of programmer out there including 2 SP's. One of my guys went to program a 16 Hyundai with his Autel 608. Programming failed. Brought out the 300lb gorilla SP and it did it without issue. I hate the tokens but these seem to work the best for us. All we do are cars.
Awesome info! This was one of the most confusing thing when I started doing automotive programming. #LOCKBOSS
Understood this info better this time than I did the first time. Question when you purchase the 25 hr pass you can program multiple car makes in that 24 hr time period or just one make. Like fords or GM.
#lockboss.
As many as u like in the 24hrs-PJ
Nice breakdown of the pricing for these things- it can be pretty tricky to tell all of that just looking at the website. #lockboss
Very interesting info Pj
Thanks
Stay well
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Very good info breaking down the options. #lockboss
Thanks Steve-PJ
Thanks for clearing up a lot of my questions. #Lockboss
You bet!-PJ
Running the AutoProPad and vvdi has done me really well. If I started doing new dealerships I would probably pick up the smart pro. #lockboss
I’m thankful that I found all your videos.. very informative.. I’m looking to get a programmer for keys .. coming up with cash is an issue at the moment.. but the opportunity has came several times for me to advance.. just have to make up my my mind to jump... #lockboss
Glad you like them!-PJ
Very good information, I purchased a diagnostic tool once that use tokens never again, #lockboss
Automotive is intimidating, but you make it less so. Thanks PJ and team! #Lockboss
Thanks, this was very helpful at understanding the use options. Can you possibly explain the different purchasing options for the Smart Pro? Is there any form of annual maintenance on it or do the tokens/ UTP cover that? #lockboss
The UTP/Tokens cover that. I'll see what I can do, tune in live Tuesday I'm having AD on!-PJ
I've thought about what my next programmer will and you answered alot of my concerns. Think I'll stick with my AutoProPad and IM608 since I just pay a yearly subscription. #LockBoss
IM-608pro to the rescue. I have the Xhorse as it works nicely with the Xhorse key machine. Take a picture of key, it decodes and sends it to the machine. You can do it from a Apple, Android device as well.
Have it on 2 iPads, Android Phone and a Android Tablet as well. Use it for the other key tools and the mini prog they offer as well.
I have the J-2534 as well so just add the cost of a daily subscription to the bill for the customer. Just factor it in when giving estimate & if you don't need then you can either save them money which they'll appreciate or if they're a pain in the butt you can just leave it on or part of it on.
Does the AutoPadPro work good enough? Cover stuff the IM-608pro don't cover?
🌵🇨🇦 Hey PJ, . Thx for the Video. Hardware manufacturers really like the subscription or maintenance fees as a source of recurring revenue. It's a hard pill for operators to swallow, but it's the cost of doing business and they have you by the short and curlys. #LockBoss 🇨🇦🌵
Hi so can I buy the software lats say for Toyota and dodge jeep Chrysler and program these cars and get pin code with out tokens or any extra fees and in future if I want to buy more software can I like for GMC or ford
Thanks for the info. I'm just getting into automotive, and this is a great help. #lockboss
Hey Andy! You are one of our winners this week.
Please email me at sales@clksupplies.com with your shipping information 😊 - Kylie
Thanks PJ, for the easy to understand explanation and breakdown. I have 2 questions. If you purchase the software outright, are all future updates free? If you need to purchase a 24 hour pass after hours are you able to purchase the pass online and have immediate access? #LockBoss
Hi Phil, yes software updates are free on software you own(updates, bug fixes). 24hr passes once they are on the machine will activate when you program the first vehicle of your choosing but can take up to a few days to download once you put an order in (order, we send po, ad puts on the the virtual bank, you download via wifi) but can happen quick -PJ
I will never buy a machine that I can't own and use without additional fees from tokens and subscriptions. $35k for all the software packages is ridiculous! I remember the Advanced Diagnostic machine from around year 2004 was over $10k for all the software upgrades. Someone in China copied the software and the hardware from that machine and sells it online for $100 today. It makes better business sense to buy a machine like the AUtopropad or Autel and if there is a car those machines can't do then just pass it up. The cost of passing up a few cars every year is a lot less expensive than buying into a Smart Pro machine.
Always get good advice for starting locksmith with auto work #lockboss
Great info. Thanks for sharing. #LOCKBOSS
Very good information to know. #LOCKBOSS
thanks for ihe info, helping to decide whether to enter the car programming aena#lockboss
Very interesting info my friend #Lockboss
Thanks for the video pj. Here is my situation. Most of my work is comm and residential. I prob do 25 to 40 cars yearly ad far as programming. I can't see putting that big of an investment in a programmer between 25 to 50 cars a year. Thanks again. James estep locksmith n Tennessee. # lockboss
Agreed-PJ
Thx for the breakdown! Lol on the bloopers getting a little $tR@Ng€.😱 Haha. 😂 #lockboss
Right! Haha. My fist through block of ice is getting better after Cobra Kai 😂-PJ
Great video! #LockBoss
Yes I did
Wow totally understand now thanks for clearing some things up P.J.I guess if your going to auto keying you need some type of computer backup, let's ask the lock father what he thinks ,,lol #LOCKBOSS 😎
Haha!,PJ
Great info #lockboss thanks pj
Great Advice #LockBoss
That answered a lot of my question, thank you #LockBoss #waffles
Great! #waffles -PJ
We program vehicles in very rural areas, where a lot of the time there is no cell service at all. Does the smart pro need to have an internet connection to program a vehicle? #LOCKBOSS
Almost never but time to time a program requires it-PJ
TIL! thanks for the great videos #lockboss
Thanks Joshua-PJ
I played the token game with my MVP Pro.
At the present time, I don’t plan on going that route again. Too much money tied up on tokens.
I feel as though your being forced to buy the larger package to lower your cost per token.
Just wish they’d adopt the charge per individual use.
Just my personal opinion.
To each his own though.
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Thanks for sharing-PJ
I used to do the 250 tokens and we did fine but with unlimited for the year it allows me to make mistakes and not have it cost me or having to call and try to get the lost tokens back. I had a 2000 for ranger use up 5 tokens before I could get it programmed. Unlimited makes me more competitive. #lockboss
🙌-PJ
I think I will stay residential - commercial, there is just not enough auto work to justify the expense. #Lockboss
Thanks PJ # Lock Boss
Thanks for the video. #lockboss
Very informative video #lockboss
The utp is the way to go.
Hi bro is the 250 token going to program 250 key/cars or
Pretty much-PJ
Which one you recommended im608 or smartpro??
SmartPro-PJ
Thanks for the info #LOCKBOSS
So is there such a thing as Forever tokens? or do these tokens expire if not used in time? The 24 HR UTP Plan sounds interesting 🙂. #lockboss #clksupplies
When you buy tokens they are yours forever! Until they are used that is!!!-PJ
I always wondered how these token based programmers worked. I love my AutoProPad lite. Whatever it takes though, just get it done. #lockboss
Thank you 😊
#LockBoss
Great vid...#lockboss
Thanks a lot !!! #LockBoss
I have the autopropad and kmax 850. If I buy another programmer I'm probably going to go with the Autel im608. #LockBoss
Thanks for the info. #lockboss
U would think they would have pay per vehicle. If I do 10 cars a year or 50 cars a year. We could factor in the cost with the job. Thanks again. James estep locksmith. # lockboss
They do the tokens, you just have to prepay.. I get your point though. Ask them live on Tuesday-PJ
Great job PJ. One day the suits at Advanced Diagnostics will figure out just how outdated their token-based business model really is. They had us all in a headlock for years and they mistakenly think they are still the 600 pound gorilla on the block. Meantime most guys I know happily ignore them on their way to the checkout cart with an APP or Autek (or like). I'm not saying the Smart Pro isn't a good product. It is. It's just fighting a losing battle against tokenless. Seriously, I would buy a SP tomorrow if they scrapped the tokens even if they replaced it with an "annual update" fee of $500 - $700. They might even reclaim the vast market share back from the Chinese made clones makers. I buy American whenever possible, but not when tokens are involved.
Good points, thanks for sharing-PJ
The more you show the more I'm happy to stay away from auto work. #Lockboss
Haha, glad I could help.😂-PJ
Trading-in to get a SP is a horrible idea. Can't count the number of times I've had to go grab a T-Code to do the task the SP should've been able to do. No one company's machine can do every task. Some times even when you buy the software, you still have to do the job the hard way. Today, we had two newer GM prox vehicles where the SP couldn't pull the pin. We had to re-learn them with the 30min procedure to add another prox. Good thing it was at the shop and not in the field. What happens if you use tokens and the task fails?? #lockboss
You had to grab the tcode lately? Did a 19 Silverado on wendsday (future vid), pulled pin Without issue-PJ
@@clksupplies just wednesday for an 01 jeep and some other DCJ product too.
I've heard this many times but never experienced it-PJ
@@clksupplies I think I'm going to suggest to the boss to do a factory reset on it, but that'd probably take forever to reload everything.
Nice video #lockboss
#lockboss I got the autek with key bundle, dipping a toe vs cannonball.
I think its a great first move!-PJ
Smart pro + FUTURA AUTO = #LockBoss
Still might be a good backup programmer. #lockboss
#LOCKBOSS THINKS FOR THE INFORMATION ABOUT Smart Pro
"Stranger Things" might have happened here when PJ gets distracted as a #lockboss
Very true, now after Cobra Kai I'm practicing my fist through ice trick😂-PJ
nice video #lockboss
Great investment and holds value. Dedicated updates, tech support from AD USA. Can get into programming mode on some models with active alarm that other programmers won't accomplish. #LOCKBOSS
Good points!-PJ
Yep smart pro is a great machine. #lockboss
Can't understand how this company stay on business with this prices, when you can do basically the same thing with the auto pro pad for less than a thousand or another option autel 508 for around 800 hundred dollars
This video is very helpful, but I would like to see some of the other programmer how to videos. # LOCKBOSS
Coming up soon!-PJ
Good programmer #lockboss
wow thats complex. #LockBoss
I am beginning to think that the STRANGER THINGS is starting to show on the #LOCKBOSS
So in owning one these as the saying goes Your Damned If You Do and Damned If You Don't, have an upgrade system.
Haha good stuff, yeah if one is not programming keys frequently the SP typically is not a good fit-PJ
I'd go with the Token Plan . They don't expire .... #LOCKBOSS
Stranger #Lockboss Things
Haha, good one-PJ
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Excellent product, just don't like the whole token concept with the outlay for the unit. #LOCKBOSS
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Very expensive to use #lockboss
Sass = Subscription!
Nobody likes to use that word as they call it a service plan, etc. It's a Subscription simple and plain no sugarcoating it!
💯-PJ
Dang they got all their tricks from Autodesk/Adobe... where are the open sources solutions?
These price should be at least degressive with the age of the techno. #Lockboss