Usually even tho these crashes look brutal it means that a lot of energy gets dispersed which is usually good and saver for the driver than a dead stop
@@TristanJ22 ehhhh, depends on how many hits the vehicle takes directly to the roof. Just kinda tornadoing like this is usually pretty good for the driver injury-wise, but flips open drivers up to injury through the car taking impacts with the ground in some less protected places.
That is the John mickel accident. Pescara productions has their own video of this and that is how I know. John is not dead. Very lucky man indeed. I think we can agree that is the biggest crash of the year.
as a fan of BSB, I have watched many a race at this track and seen quite a few shunts given how narrow it is and my dumb ass never even comntemplated full-sized cars going around what is essentially a go-kart track based on width. Glad he survived!
@@frl6683 that is incredible, I am glad he is alright and that he still has the passion and the ability to race again. I have seen many crashes but in those cars a roll like that can't feel good lmao
As for the how, it's a big tendency with these cars. The semi-open wheeled nature makes them easy to catapult off of each other, and with the shape of the roof and fenders, it's just as easy for the car to dig into soft surfaces like grass or sand traps and go tumbling. You see it all the time in asphalt and dirt oval races with the same cars.
@@NolanRempel it just seems crazy to me that rolls that violent tend to happen in cars that go much faster like an old 90s pre-roof flap era NASCAR crash at Talladega or something. This crash reminds me of Davey Allison's crash at Pocono in 1992 with the way the car rolls into somersaults before coming to rest
@@Glizzyyyy420 Lack of safety features back then tended to do that lol. Though for these it's just because of the car's structure, can't really be helped. Much like how midgets and sprint cars tend to take nasty tumbles instead of softer spins.
i remember this formula when they first came out with them, are they still breaking rims? hell of an expensive day it was for the promoters, dozens of broken rims.
My brother in law had a similar crash here in the states. Same incident wheel hopped a guy beside him. They estimated he flipped 13 times. Asphalt oval. Hi hands came out the roof during the flip cutting off a good portion of his ring finger. Knocked him out banged him up good, but he is doing well today. These cars get violent when they flip due to the small size.
That looked like one of those humongous Nascar sprint race crashes you see on the dirt track ovals! That is going to be historically the worst all time race crashes involving a legends car.
Does Australia have a series 4 ledends? Know there big in the states Reackion together with Aussie racing cars there the best thing to watch, but this wasn't, hope he's ok & feel 4 the guy in the green one, that was not a dangerous reentry just bad timing...
This is legitimately the worst looking motorsport crash in any division on earth in 2023. I never thought the worst wreck of the year would be in the legends car. Does anyone have a reliable update on his health? The intensity of those flips was horrifying.
Carro 85 provocou o acidente ao regressar muito lento à pista e seguiu em frente. Carro 95 provavelmente da mesma equipe do azarão, foi o unico que parou pra prestar socorro. 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏿♂️🏁🏁
Tbf in a lot of racing series driver tend not to, the more professional a series the more likely you have things like a medical car, on track ambulance, well distributed marshals with fire safety equipment etc. Its more often than not far better as a driver to let the marshals and medical staff handle the accident and focus on just getting your car beck to the pits and out of the way. Unless your in a fully am series that doesn't have that kind of support you may well just end up getting in the way of the professionals and causing more harm than good if you try to get involved in the accident response.
I raced stock, legend, sprint & winged sprint. Dirt / asphalt both. I can tell you, nothing I hated more than HIGH G Gyro Rolls. The G forces suck balls.
Don't know about "fair play" of the other racer stopping, getting out, and going back to the driver that crashed ..... but I get it. Hope he is ok ... wow.
@@lewisclarke-bull3666 Legends Cars are used by amateurs, not in professional leagues and yes, they move was 100% boneheaded amateur move. Guess what? It’s the driver’s responsibility to drive the course. You can’t blame the course because the driver sucks.
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That is the most violent wreck I have ever seen for a Legends Car. Hope he survived it.
Usually even tho these crashes look brutal it means that a lot of energy gets dispersed which is usually good and saver for the driver than a dead stop
This one's right up there, as well, from Lincoln Speedway.
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@@TristanJ22 thats what they say, a sudden violent flip like this is even more dangerous than a sudden stop with these cars.
@@TristanJ22 ehhhh, depends on how many hits the vehicle takes directly to the roof. Just kinda tornadoing like this is usually pretty good for the driver injury-wise, but flips open drivers up to injury through the car taking impacts with the ground in some less protected places.
@Tristan Jochheim there is not many crush zones on these cars, and the flipping is so violent. This was brutal...
Between this and the crash at Brands Hatch last weekend, these things provide amazing racing but are mental when it goes wrong
Good lord, so violent of a flip it looks like NR2003! Hope he was okay
Johnny survived
That is the John mickel accident. Pescara productions has their own video of this and that is how I know. John is not dead. Very lucky man indeed. I think we can agree that is the biggest crash of the year.
Thanks for the update! Thankfully he's OK, that was a nasty one.
@kowalski3769 seeing how he was on the ITV BTCC coverage i'm more surprised he's not back on track already really.
@@nitelast Unfortunately there we weren't able to watch any of it here in the US.
I love Legends racing. This was just nuts, never seen anything like that.
Unlucky! Saw this series at Oulton one time and it was brilliant, superb entertaining driving from them all.
That is insane how many flips he did in like 2 seconds.
I think he did 12.5 flips
as a fan of BSB, I have watched many a race at this track and seen quite a few shunts given how narrow it is and my dumb ass never even comntemplated full-sized cars going around what is essentially a go-kart track based on width. Glad he survived!
Wow how did it flip so violently, is he okay?
John was at Brands Indy on ITV4 this weekend seemingly more fussed with why he couldn't be racing, he's a tough bloke!
@@frl6683 that is incredible, I am glad he is alright and that he still has the passion and the ability to race again. I have seen many crashes but in those cars a roll like that can't feel good lmao
As for the how, it's a big tendency with these cars. The semi-open wheeled nature makes them easy to catapult off of each other, and with the shape of the roof and fenders, it's just as easy for the car to dig into soft surfaces like grass or sand traps and go tumbling. You see it all the time in asphalt and dirt oval races with the same cars.
@@NolanRempel it just seems crazy to me that rolls that violent tend to happen in cars that go much faster like an old 90s pre-roof flap era NASCAR crash at Talladega or something. This crash reminds me of Davey Allison's crash at Pocono in 1992 with the way the car rolls into somersaults before coming to rest
@@Glizzyyyy420 Lack of safety features back then tended to do that lol. Though for these it's just because of the car's structure, can't really be helped. Much like how midgets and sprint cars tend to take nasty tumbles instead of softer spins.
They need to adjust some of the collision physics next patch
i remember this formula when they first came out with them, are they still breaking rims? hell of an expensive day it was for the promoters, dozens of broken rims.
I counted 10 3/4 flips, holy shit
My brother in law had a similar crash here in the states. Same incident wheel hopped a guy beside him. They estimated he flipped 13 times. Asphalt oval. Hi hands came out the roof during the flip cutting off a good portion of his ring finger. Knocked him out banged him up good, but he is doing well today. These cars get violent when they flip due to the small size.
Wonder if they nicked this for display on ITV without asking as well
Nicked it?
That looked like one of those humongous Nascar sprint race crashes you see on the dirt track ovals! That is going to be historically the worst all time race crashes involving a legends car.
" holy shit 😳!" ( " more hits than maddona!" ) laugh 😃 😀 😄 😁 🤣
Is he ok
Does Australia have a series 4 ledends?
Know there big in the states
Reackion together with Aussie racing cars there the best thing to watch, but this wasn't, hope he's ok & feel 4 the guy in the green one, that was not a dangerous reentry just bad timing...
This is legitimately the worst looking motorsport crash in any division on earth in 2023. I never thought the worst wreck of the year would be in the legends car. Does anyone have a reliable update on his health? The intensity of those flips was horrifying.
He was on itv4 ages ago (when the cars were playing roll over again)
I feel bad for Mark, he tried to reenter the track but still got hit
John did it
you can see the moment it went wrong
Looked like Rusty Wallace
Shit, that looked like it was fast forward...
Carro 85 provocou o acidente ao regressar muito lento à pista e seguiu em frente. Carro 95 provavelmente da mesma equipe do azarão, foi o unico que parou pra prestar socorro. 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏿♂️🏁🏁
OH NO! 😨
Wow!
that was harsh.
Only one guy stop to help ?
Tbf in a lot of racing series driver tend not to, the more professional a series the more likely you have things like a medical car, on track ambulance, well distributed marshals with fire safety equipment etc. Its more often than not far better as a driver to let the marshals and medical staff handle the accident and focus on just getting your car beck to the pits and out of the way. Unless your in a fully am series that doesn't have that kind of support you may well just end up getting in the way of the professionals and causing more harm than good if you try to get involved in the accident response.
What
I raced stock, legend, sprint & winged sprint. Dirt / asphalt both. I can tell you, nothing I hated more than HIGH G Gyro Rolls. The G forces suck balls.
Isso que é capotagem
Can only imagine the G's he was pulling. Better than hitting something solid atleast even though it looks very dramatic.
Exdactly.. it looks dramatic.. but hitting something stationary can be much worse with that speed..
I was there
Oh shit
😳😳😳
Don't know about "fair play" of the other racer stopping, getting out, and going back to the driver that crashed ..... but I get it. Hope he is ok ... wow.
pitted himself
💕
Damnnnnnnnnnnmn n
Hahaha. That was a peach of a crash. More of that please
nah nah
That’s what you get when you have amateurs trying to go three wide
Not amateurs at all... Just what you get when you put these cars on a tight track like Cadwell
@@lewisclarke-bull3666 Legends Cars are used by amateurs, not in professional leagues and yes, they move was 100% boneheaded amateur move. Guess what? It’s the driver’s responsibility to drive the course. You can’t blame the course because the driver sucks.
@@andrewahern3730 so over twenty years of experience and multiple championships across different categories is amateur good to know
@@lewisclarke-bull3666 lmao, do you not know what the words “amateur” and “professional” mean?
@@andrewahern3730 either you don't know the meaning of sarcasm or you've got something bigger going on