Dr. Frank Turek Answers Questions on Evolution, Apologetics, and Memes
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- Опубліковано 19 кві 2020
- In this in-person interview, Dr. Frank Turek of @CrossExamined answers questions from our Patrons about evolution, apologetics, and memes. Dr. Turek and I disagree at several points along the way.
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I've never heard Frank talk this quiet before...
That was my first thought! He's not yelling.. So that's what his voice sounds like! 🤣
LOL! Right! Dan i love yr logo bro!
Haha maybe because he isn't talking to an auditorium room full of +50 students and just 1 person? Maybe...
@@markmcflounder15 lol thanks
Jesse Lazar he’s so fiery when he’s up on stage
OMG stop interrupting Frank as he answers your questions, let him finish his thoughts - Frank displays great patience, I dont know if I could have
@Jessica B. That is a fantastic point! I wouldn't have considered that.
I hope your saying oh my goodness not the other OMG. It’s better to not make it a habit instead you accidentally take the Lords name in vain.
@@brothersamuelrogers8138 🙄
Jordan Hartley 3rd commandment buddy
@@brothersamuelrogers8138 that's not the Lord's name. We don't even know exactly what the Lord's name is. Best guess in English is YHWH.
Seems more convincing that taking His name in vain would be saying you're His but living hypocritically.
Interviewer: How would you answer the question of evolution
Frank: Well I would start out by.....
Interviewer: Cuz I would seem to think that it would be more on the side of agnosticism. Would you?
Frank: Well Richard Dawkins tried to insinuate that......
Interviewer: Okay here is another question from our patrons and thank you guys for being so cool.
#GreatInterview
Yeah. I love Cameron, but he did seem to be somewhat antagonistic in this interview.
LOL
It's more like a conversation than an interview
Because .
aahahahahahahahah underrated comment
This dude has good points and some intelligent rebuttals, but he needs to be patient enough to let the guest finish a thought.
No, he did really good. He wants to make it hard on purpose
louis cyfer Nice argument.
agreed. so annoying
@@louiscyfer6944 Evidence?
@@louiscyfer6944 stick to pumping weights and roids and leave the talking to others buddy.
Hey Cameron, buddy. Gotta let the person speak without interrupting. I saw a lot of that.
Not being critical. Just a suggestion.
Go Or true
that is the definition of being critical, and it's not a bad thing.
Frank Turek was probably the first Christian apologist that I came across. Nowadays, I listen to William Lane Craig more often, but Frank will always have a special place in my heart.
Joseph Logsdon I felt that
His Q & A sessions are great.
Craig and Turek were my first and still my two favorite.
Funny it's the other way around for me
Been watching WLC and just recently started watching Frank.
@@His0wnFoot Say this out loud to yourselves. _"I believe a donkey once talked to its owner."_
Seriously, say that to yourselves, that you believe a donkey once talked.
You *have* to believe that because your religion says its true. And you wonder why Einstein called the religion _"primitive legend"_ and _"pretty childish."_
There is one piece of advice I can give you, Cameron, to become a better interviewer - stop interrupting your guest all the time and let him speak. If you have some additional questions, ask them after the guest has given you the answer to the original one.
He should read more...to be able to ask intelligent questions....
@@jotunman627 I thought his questions were great. They certainly got Turek talking which was exactly what they were supposed to do. Just because he doesn't dress up his questions in intellectual and difficult to understand language does not make him a bad interviewer.
Frank is very educated person, May God bless Frank.
If you believe that, then you are taken in by his faux science.
It's not even "Bad Science" - he just does not fully understand, that which he uses to make his points.
Therefore his points are invalid - bogus.
Frank is a conceited, self-opinionated charlatan.
He has taken YOU in - just as he has conned so many before.
One who speaks the truth is hated the most: he simply says how it is don’t cry.
He’s educated in theology NOT IN SCIENCE!!!!!
Non in any field of science....despite his arrogant and ludicrous bloviating.
@@lamson1990 then nobody could ever hate poor clueless Frank
What I enjoy about Frank Turek is how well he’s read.
In his answers he’ll quote christians, atheists, ancient philosophers, church leaders etc...
It’s super well versed.
He has read - but understands very little of what he has read.
His quotes are segments cherry-picked to try to prove his points.
Since he does not understand all of what he says, the "gaps" are glaringly obvious and his points fall flat, to anyone who understands the games he plays.
He is a con-man - big talk but says nothing.
@@childofthe60s100 Any examples of how he doesn’t grasp the literature he’s citing?
Or are you also all big talk but saying nothing ?
@@sjappiyah4071 Well for a start the Cambrian Explosion wasn’t instantaneous..............it was about 50 million years. That’s actually quite a long time.
not in the science of biology he isn't.
@@sjappiyah4071 all big talk is not even close?
Dr. Turek is such a lovely fellow. Makes you question your worldview no matter what your intellect is.
Makes you wonder HOW can a fool like him be claiming a PhD. Then, you look up, what he supposedly studied and realise what a joker he really is.
Frank and Kent - the Waldorf and Statler of the God Squad!
Dr. Turek is a salesman of Christianity. He uses the religion to make himself wealthy as so many phoney Christians do. Whatever your worldview, Turek is everything Jesus Christ taught *against*.
Not really...
@@childofthe60s100 exactly....a sucker is born every minute......
He did not make me question my world view.....if anything my unbelief is stronger....
Glory to Jesus .
Praise sasquatch!
Yes!
Glory to the Holy Flying Spaghetti Monster
@@Dr.vonKrankenhausen lol
@@Dr.vonKrankenhausen
Grate be the cheese upon him !!
I enjoy his podcast as well as your channel for the same reason, that you invite a lot of Christian scholars from various fields. It’s good to hear from different perspectives of Christianity from different areas.
Came here for the opinions of comment section scholars.
Same 😂
Lol
And went away disappointed?
Frank Turek is a multi millionaire. A real Christian will point out that, unless a camel goes through the eye of a needle fairly soon, Turek is banned from the heaven he constantly espouses.
@@TonyEnglandUK why would frank not go to heaven for having the supposed millions?
Frank Turek is undefeated!
When I was athiest my argument against God was that the universe seemed so cruel and unjust. But how had I got this idea of just and unjust? A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line. What was I comparing the universe with when I called it unjust?
Only by acknowledging that there is a God, can we hope to make sense of human existence, the world we inhabit, and, paradoxically, the problem of evil.
But if God is goodness personified and therefore, as our Creator, the divine source of all that is good, true and beautiful, why is there so much evil and suffering? What has gone wrong? The Christian answer to that question, the Bible says, is that our world has been damaged by rebellion against God. An originally good creation has been spoiled.
If you find this hard to believe, consider the evidence. Look at all the many examples there are of benevolent and intricate design in Nature: the nest-building instincts of birds, the incredibly complex structure of the human brain, the navigational systems of bats and whales, the biological software of DNA in every cell of our bodies, sexual reproduction, etc. All this exists side by side with harmful viruses, disease and death. Can its obvious implications be ignored? Consider, too, the si
@J w Selah
@@somerandom3247 Only by acknowledging that there is a God, can we hope to make sense of human existence, the world we inhabit, and, paradoxically, the problem of evil.
But if God is goodness personified and therefore, as our Creator, the divine source of all that is good, true and beautiful, why is there so much evil and suffering? What has gone wrong? The Christian answer to that question, the Bible says, is that our world has been damaged by rebellion against God. An originally good creation has been spoiled.
If you find this hard to believe, consider the evidence. Look at all the many examples there are of benevolent and intricate design in Nature: the nest-building instincts of birds, the incredibly complex structure of the human brain, the navigational systems of bats and whales, the biological software of DNA in every cell of our bodies, sexual reproduction, etc. All this exists side by side with harmful viruses, disease and death. Can its obvious implications be ignored? Consider, too, the significance of the fact that human beings possess an inner moral code they cannot get rid of yet seem unable to obey. Does all this not suggest some process of deterioration from hopeful beginnings? Is it not also significant that many ancient peoples and cultures, including the Chinese, have some tradition of a lost Paradise in the dim and distant past?
That argument just disproves a loving god.
Other gods are still in play.
@@theespionageact5249 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen.
Dr. Frank Turek should receive the direct to the point award.
Whoever filmed and edited this is solid
Did you go all the way to niall
This interview is painful to watch. The Dr. is a pleasure to listen to and sounds confident and natural, could listen to him all day. The interviewer is nervous, rude, and obnoxious. He’s trying way too hard and it’s extremely off putting.
Love the secureness Dr. Frank Turek has. Boy! Like he has all the right and very satisfying answers.
Except he's an ignorant arrogant fool.
Dude, your interview style is driving me up a wall. Stop interrupting your guest. You can see he's in the middle of a thought and you jump in.
You're interviewing him to get HIS thoughts. It seems like you're trying, instead, to demonstrate what you know to him.
Let. Your. Guest. Talk.
Actively listen, then engage. Watch Ben Shapiro's Sunday Specials. He's great at this.
Thanks for the feedback. I should note that this is a pretty uncommon critique of my work. See my interview with Swinburne, for example. After my first question, he went 15 minutes uninterrupted.
@@CapturingChristianity Perhaps this is an outlier, but I'm not the only person in the comments who noticed this.
I’m grateful for the clarifying questions he poses. Interruptions like that are necessary when trying to hold conversation with people like Turek.
Frank has plenty of monologues (and the BOOK that he wrote, prompting this interview) that you can take in at your leisure. This is an actual conversation. I applaud his style, so if you don’t like it then why not go elsewhere?
@Excuse me, but What lack of rigor? They're the same arguments everyone uses.
He's approach is lay-level, unlike WLC.
@Gabe Norman He said on the Joe Rogan show, that Jesus was a common criminal who got what he deserved..
I love watching Frank!
Me too...
"I can do this all day." LOL!
@@louiscyfer6944 As you have a person that isn't you, or a random body builder, as your profile picture.
You wouldn't have loved watching Hitchens destroy his nonsense - EVERY TIME they met.
@@childofthe60s100 Christopher hitchens was actually iffy in his atheism; and actually considered christianity.
@@jmogames724 Who mentioned Hitchens???????
In any case, what you say is nonsense! He was brought up catholic and rejected religion, when old enough to think and reason.
He NEVER reconsidered his correct, informed views.
"iffy"????
Not remotely!
Not only atheist but anti-theist, like all reasonable, non-brainwashed adults.
Well.......YOU mentioned him - not me!
his was fun! Please bring Frank back on and do more Q and A's please!
Thank you for your videos and your links to all the gear you use! So helpful and useful!
It was amazing! Invite Dr. Turek more often!
"Dr" - his so called PhD has about as much validity, as that of the other idiot zealot - Kent Hovind.
People who either buy their degrees or study some arcane nonsense that cannot be verified, and then claim it to be academic study, degrade our education system.
People work hard, to attain high academic standards - word salad spouters who quote faux science, like this lying self aggrandising, idiot need to be exposed - not encouraged!
He believes in talking snakes and you applaud! Oops you too! 🤣
@@mystery6411 "Where did he bought"?????
No mystery why YOU will never have a "PHD" then!
@@mystery6411 Don't know where he did bought it. I'm his mum - better ask his dad where he did bough his PHD.
These closed captions are a trip :"cocaine fizzy"? at 32:19. I get all kinds in my location, but this is one of the funniest!
I like cameron, but in this interview he seem stressed and uncomfortable, which leads to interruptions. Except for that; great interview. May God bless both of them.
Awesome video. I have been listening to Frank Turek on the way to work, so its cool putting a face to the voice. Thanks Cameron, great interview!
Liar. Its the worst interview ive ever seen
Wonderful discussion. Thank you for this!
Cameron, I have personally had a conversation with someone who said this: "If Christianity is true, and I feel like it truly could be, I cannot come to Christ because I do not want to give up my homosexuality." I have had someone literally say this to me, so I get where Frank is coming from.
axderka this person is either lying or they don’t understand or know about the concept of hell
Matt M I think you misunderstood me. I wasn’t saying that it was, I was responding to someone who said he knows somebody who says they still wouldn’t be Christian even if it was true and he knew it.
@@lucidlocomotive2014
I know the Bible god was invented by humans, and doesn't exist apart from our imaginations, wishful thinking.
However, if that were not true, I would still not worship a god who created a universe in which:
A man takes a stick with a comparable width to my wrists, and beats his own 6 year old daughter to an inch of her life. He breaks the stick over her back and CONTINUES hitting her with the halves whilst she screams uncontrollably from the pain of already shattered bones being struck over and over again.
That's just one thing I've seen recently on the internet. I've seen other things far too disgusting and inhumane to recount here, so no amount of pretending free will exists with no arguments or evidence will ever convince me there's a clearer answer to the logical problem of evil than what I mentioned at the beginning of this comment. If there is a god, it's not worthy of anything but contempt.
@@mattsmith1440 The problem is with the Man who beats the little girl. What God has to do anything with it? If you refute me back that God allowed this to happen. You need to check the free will background of that man who beats the girl. i.e he is doing this act because his spirit is demon possessed.
GOD is completely GOOD.
Following JESUS no man would do such a terrible act.
Following SATAN men can do all terrible evil things.
So, It's your free will to choose GOD or SATAN.
@@mattsmith1440
Christians need to stand up and preach the gospel most Christians don't go to the dangerous places to preach so that's where I'm headed through Jesus!
That was an awesome interview, Cameton. Frank's such a nice and intelligent person.
Intellectually honest Cameron, not shying away from attacking bad arguments. Great stuff.
Let Frank Speak please 😂😂 I can't hahaha
Frank summed up our thoughts 18:37.
Let the man speak lol.
"OUR"????????
Nice gains dude
10:27 What Dr. Frank is saying in his head during this whole interview.
He is also saying _"I hope the camera is picking up my book's product placement nicely, I need another $million."_
@@TonyEnglandUK you’re mad because he sells books? People aren’t forced to buy them, what’s the problem?
@@MarcanthonyTho I'll tell you what the problem is. A real Christian would place another book there, see if you can figure out which book?
@@TonyEnglandUK what a weak response.
@@MarcanthonyTho You mean you didn't think of it and now you realise how right I was, enjoy the video lol. Nice talking to you.
35:47 is what you're here for, when meme session starts. You're welcome, friends
cringe
Thanks
First frank video I've watched and WOW. He explains my beliefs exactly how I would with much more elegance and speed
For a sec I though your pf pic was a floating head.
I enjoy many of Frank’s points. Thanks for doing this interview. 👍🏼
So do I - absolutely hilarious - the guy is a closed minded, indoctrinated idiot.
SO FUNNY watching him make it all up, as he goes along.
Child of the 60s u got beat up in school by a Christian so now u gonna pour ur tears below every positive comment about Frank? He’s simply saying how it is.
@@childofthe60s100 very neccessary for you to post mocks and make fun of the guy👍👍😁😁
@capturingchristianity Cameron if you haven't read Signature in the Cell, Darwin's Doubt, Darwin Devolves, Darwin's Black Box and especially Theistic Evolution I highly recommend them all. After consuming and carefully considering all the evidence, you shouldn't be 'agnostic' in your position any longer. I most recently finished Theistic Evolution and it was an eye opener for me. Appreciate your and Frank's diligent work for the Lord. Keep it up gents!
Why not recommend books on evolutionary biology written by actual evolutionary biologists......it's almost as if your agenda isn't actually informing yourself.
One of my most favorite Christian videos!!! I learned a lot from this. Great video, good job, loved it!
"this guy has a book, must be somebody" LOL 😂
Love the questions you asked, I just think you need to work on your interviewing a little bit. the frequent interruption made it very difficult to pay attention & enjoy the interview.
Love the podcast! I know it’s your channel, but I started getting turned off by the number of times you would interject while he was beginning to make a point, or in the middle of one. Just a heads up. Keep up the good work!
There was no good work. Dont lie
Love Frank! A little disturbed that he EVER listens to Andy Stanley, but sounds like that's only occasional. Great interview!
Frank is one cool dude. He might be a fast talker from New Jersey and I'm a slow listener from Orrstrailia but he really makes good sense.
Just let Frank finish a thought. We get you want to defend modern synthesis of darwinian evolution on screen, but I thought this was an interview not a debate.
1:10 "no that's not you podcast is it" lol
This was a great interview bro 👌
I love how Dr. Frank says VERTICAL CAUSE! Wow.... As clear as a day,, in just such a short explanation in few seconds... Wow...
A good reporter let’s the person being interviewed do the talking in my opinion.
Interviewing scholars in the field seems good to your channel.
Awesome stuff, thanks
I loved to watch Frank Turek, loved intelligent conversations.
*Defendant:*
*There's no evidence of me killing that person.*
*This Guy:*
*There's no evidence that there's no evidence of you killing that person.*
Well said
Strong case because there’s literally nothing you can do about it.
That’s dishonest.
It depends on the scenario. The evidence that you killed that person would rely on whether there are other possibilities and what those other possibilities must entail for you to not be guilty of killing that person.
@@f0rtitude
Don't take it literally, dude. It was a simile for something he said.
An Atheist's arguement was:
“There's no evidence of God”.
This idiot replied:
“There's no evidence that there's no evidence of God”.
Well it's a more complicated way of saying "there is positive evidence". It's like if I said, "I don't NOT want to do this." All I'm essentially saying "I do want to do this".
Awesome interview. Really nice job 😊. For those interested in Christianity search for Orthodox Christianity, is a like treasure hidden that nobody knows.
Great interview Cameron. Couple of things to mention, you mentioned the naked bible podcast on the head coverings that one is wild. I think you did a good job challenging Frank on a few things while being graceful. I think Frank is a prime example of the state of apologetics today. His arguments are not the scholarly versions and I could see where you found flaws but the people he generally interacts with are the scholarly tupe
Really agree with Frank on the possibility issue in the beginning 😂 Cameron kinda put the atheist hat there saying: “but is it possible”
Unprofessional interviewer constantly interrupting
and he does it to like, everyone that he interviews. I can't stand it.
Seems like a sincere discussion mixed with an interview
16:29 correct answer to that question is Lust. . . but I certainly get what he is saying. He said the answer was Sex.
Hey we got some Michael Heiser fans. Love his work and studies. Thanks for the vid.
Thanks for this, it was really encouraging! Dr. Turek is well spoken and much of what he said was actually new to me. It’s always nice to hear something new! God is working through this UA-cam channel in my life and many others and I just wanted to say thank you! God bless! 😊
Wait till you get older and see what happens with your belief system. unless you had nothing to be worried about?
I have watched possibly a hundred or more of Videos with Frank Turek in them, this was the one that made me realise , keep getting educated, keep shedding my foolishness , keep listening, there seems to be a really strong synergy coming from these Gentlemen getting together, Thankyou very much.
Interrupting others was a bad habit I practiced for most of my life so it’s still a challenge to this day. Lets pray for this interviewer and others in our lives that struggle with this. May God give them the humble heart to acknowledge it as a problem and work swiftly toward empowering them to change it.
Is frank advertising his book displayed on table lol love all his books
My nose bleeds watching this interview... but thanks Frank and Cameron for this. 😀
The constant interrupting by the interviewer made this video unwatchable.
Franks ignorance on evolution made it unwatchable
@@angelperez7725 ehh 😬
@@SolarJord if he actually knew what he was talking about it would’ve been watchable
Two ears ONE mouth!!
Incredibly satisfying dialogue
GOD BLESS you Frank you are very KNOWLEDGEABLE
🙏♥️♥️♥️🙏
What do you meme!!!!! (That's somebody else's podcast 😂)
Frank, David Wood, Jay Smith, Dan Gibson need to be the heads at UN. GOD BLESS EM
What your picture represents?
There needs to be no UN they keep uniting the world soon we will be one under one currency that is cashless and controllable to force people to worship on Sunday aka the mark of the BEAST Google boasts of the Roman catholic church by amazing discovery's and read that
@@propro693 read my comment dude
Yup UN is actually devil. Also check out ID2020. I know my dp sux but it is nothing serious. I praise rhe Lord all the time
@@papaiswatching can you tell me your picture because looks masonic and you are representing God
Frank is so patient with the constant interruptions
Great stuff
Adam being made out of the dust is actually compatible with evolution though. Human beings, and all animals that have evolved, are made of matter that comes from stardust. To us, its an insanely large-scale and longterm thing for stars to explode, earth to form and change, life to begin, and millions of years of evolution to lead to the first human being(s), but from the perspective of an infinite and eternal being, it is easily just “God made Adam out of the dust”
*insert atheist's hysteria response*
There was no adam and Eve tho....evolution clearly refutes that.
colby j Where and how?
I love Frank Turek, glad you got him on.
Dr. Mark Hitchcock's doctrinal dissertation on why Revelation was written in 95 AD is amazing. He's also got a great debate against the "Bible Answer Man" on the dating of the Book.
Cam you shot this so BEAUTIFULLY i love how you incorporate creativity with apologetic keep that up man
Hair was all Cam. But he had a little help with the shooting 😉
37:54 The point is that Jesus conquers sin and death by his sacrifice, and it's more impressive that it only took him a long weekend to do it.
GOON!!!!
Is that your favourite joke?
Clearly, you don't even understand him
@@markmbugua2358 Clearly, you are an indoctrinated foo,l incapable of rational thought - because the god virus has infected you since childhood.
@@childofthe60s100 I've been an atheist most of my life and all i said is clearly you didn't understand him
"Where does the evidence point?"
Answer: God.
Case closed.
Can you share this evidence that "points" to the 3xistence of a god. I would like to be convinced.
@@theoskeptomai2535 The existence of Jesus Christ of Nazareth is without dispute. His death burial and resurrection cannot be refuted. Jesus is God. God with us.
@@ColonelEmpire amen
Theo Skeptomai No, Go find it for yourself- Its not on UA-cam comments
@Ja L There is more evidence that Jesus is alive and lived than there is evidence that you are alive now... You have to deny the facts of history in order to deny the fact that Jesus lived, died and rose again....
Here is a video that will help in your quest for truth....if you are seeking truth....
ua-cam.com/video/5znVUFHqO4Q/v-deo.html
You believe that Alexander the Great is a factual historical figure do you not? Yes you do. There is more evidence for Jesus Christ the Lord than for Alexander the Great.... Just for starters.
No one has EVER refuted the Bible. You have no credibility.
I think this was a good interview, Frank is ok guys, he will make sure to make his point if interrupted
Love the music you used on the breaks! Who is the artist? Is it made by yourself? Is it christian music? Really liked it alot, not more than the interview of course very well done love Frank Turek!
I have heard memes compared with the propaganda posters of the 1930s and 1940s. They are an engaging picture with a pithy statement that is designed to manipulate your thinking.
Didn't George Washington say that?
What a horrendously orchestrated interview.
Huh
Phenomenal interview, Cameron. Really enjoy Dr. Turek and took quite a few notes here. I'm searching a lot for answers to "Why Protestantism vs. Catholicism" on topics like Faith + Works, and Purgatory, and I find interviews like this really helpful for me on my Christian journey.
It would be nice of videos like this, to note *WHEN* they took place, and *WHERE* they took place.
I read below that this was shot back in August 2019 which is fine, but that could be noted in the description.
And the setting...set the stage for what we're about to listen to; where it took place, how the meeting may have been arranged, etc, etc...
@bic boi I didn't suggest it *WOULD* ...I suggest to Cameron simply to *ADD* those two things to get a better u/standing, that's all.
Great guest but awful interview, you interrupt him on every question. It’s like you just want to hear yourself speak.
It also seems like the guest is more interested in promoting his book than that other book called the Bible. Weird that, huh?
I completely agree about the excessive interruptions. They really annoyed me.
@@TonyEnglandUK his book is about the existiance of god and the Bible so ur claim is no valid
@@jsnowyy858 Pause it at 2:26 and tell me whose book you see. Because I don't see the Bible anywhere.
@@jsnowyy858 lol Americans are so easily led. When are you going to work out why all your famous "religious" people are multi-millionaires and when you going to work out why they never _"sell what they own and give to the poor"_ as the Bible advised them.
Very well done!
48:16
One term used for this is ‘Bulverism’.
Interviewer: "explain it to me like I'm 12...
Ok, explain it to me like I'm 6"
Explain it to me like im dead and never lived.
whADDo yOU mEmE
Apparently Cameron is blocking users who disagree with him.
Bobby Bobbie Ah yes, the lame “trolling” defense. Good one.
You're not blocked on here. We can still see your comments
Funny, I can see your comment.
Jc Thomas OMG you found me out.
Frank knows everything; I think he is omniscient.
I started freestyling when the beat first dropped. So you can get that out of your head that I didn’t.
I found the first 16 minutes rather interesting, and frankly (no pun intended), it is why I consider myself an Earth Age Agnostic. I cannot decide rather I believe in evolution or YEC. Although Turek presented a pretty solid case against natural evolution (without God), I don't think many of his arguments hold up against theistic evolution. Problems like the Cambrian Explosion are only a problem to natural evolution. Suggesting that God suddenly caused a large amount of new life forms to exist in a short time would fit with theistic evolution, but it still retains the archeological record that disproves the Biblical age of the earth. So, although he argued well, I think there is still a lot of room to support even macro-evolution. The reason why YECs no longer have me convinced is because this is the strongest argument I've seen against evolution. YECs need to do better.
The best argument against macro-evolution (which could include theistic evolution) would be what he said about a convention of naturalists getting together to say it's not working anymore. Now, that by itself is not a particularly strong argument, but my reaction was very similar to Cameron's. "I've not heard about this, I've not seen anybody talk as though there is anybody in the field questioning it." But yet, I have heard small claims here and there of scientists losing their job for questioning the theory of evolution. It begs the question: "Why?" Why doesn't mainstream science acknowledge when there are skeptics of mainstream science without calling them "science deniers"? As long as science silences its doubters, their methods will be questionable. And this is why I am skeptical to embrace macro-evolution.
It's like the YECs are saying, "We have the truth", and use faulty logic. But the evolutionists are saying, "We have the truth", and use questionable tactics. So I can't trust biased people, but if I put aside the people and go to the book that has won my trust, it will say one thing, but the majority of the evidence then says another. What then do I ultimately believe? That is why I am an Earth Age Agnostic. Either way, however, God is real, and Jesus rose from the dead. Btw, Christianity is true.
The ideas for the age of the earth men have derived from the Bible are based on its discussion of a line of men leading as a seed line to bring about the Christ.
The books compiled in The bible don't really give us time in years, it is theory to give actual time to it. Using the evidence we have made the "gap theory."
That must exist in the first few verses of Genesis.
Dr. Gene Kim gives gap theory so well explained by supporting scripture, it can explain the evidence on the earth of the previous earth age or ages.
The bible explains in a neat way that the reader can find, but I for one, had to listen to alot of bible studies to finally hear of the gap theory.
I liked what you wrote here and wanted to mention that to you in case you hadn't heard of Dr. Kim at "real bible believers" on UA-cam.
The meeting he mentioned was scientists questioning the MECHANISM of macroevolution, not the occurrence of it. And this has NOT been silenced in the scientific community, in fact there are papers in the peer reviewed literature going back 40-50 years that question the mechanism of neodarwinism. But to act like this magically invalidates the occurrence of evolution, like Frank and many others do, is completely disingenuous. No actual scientists think that it did not occur. Science is two things. First is an observation. In this case, we can observe with fossils and genetics that evolution DID happen. Second is an explanation for that observation. This is an educated guess called a hypothesis. As more observations are made, that guess is refined. In this case, the observed evolution in the fossil record is not adequately explained by the proposed neodarwinism mechanism, so it needs to be adjusted. That's it. No one is questioning the fact that evolution happened.
PS - You can dismiss the YEC position straight away because they deny the location of Eden given in Genesis 2.
@@theTavis01 Steven Meyer is the best example of a scientist who has alot to offer on this topic for you.
@@dannylinc6247 is that why he can't get any of his nonsense past peer review?
@@theTavis01 it certainly is supported by the evidence which, they lack theirs for their theory.
How can they get the theory past those "peers" ?
Their ideas change and new books are written.
New ideas are brought and they are entertained. You hear them offered as explanations often if you follow this topic, and as yet there's nothing more than trying to adjust a puzzle to fit together.
Meyer comes along with a better explanation and makes them look like they know , but they hate his better explanation. Haters can't learn, often, unless they came up with the new approach themselves. That's your answer. If you call that nonsense, then you'll be stuck like that indefinitely.
I've seen a four man interview where he was one of the three invited and he ran circles around the other two.
They just acted like a sound was occurring the other two couldn't explain.
You see, it makes them look like they don't want the right answers. They want funding for research, they want to write and sell books, and they want to put forth more ideas and control these topics so they know the questions won't fully have any answers.
The other two never contradicted him and never were on the specific explanation topics he was giving.
They were visibly acting aloof and had nothing compelling as refutation.
If you can sit through that, you'll see, if those are supposed to be his peers?
He might as well just leave the room and go seek intelligent life on this planet.
He's beyond their comprehension.
Peers?
Even that will be tough to find for the way he assembles the puzzle and doesn't have to work on his pieces to change them to fit.
I didn't have much knowledge of his material before that, but I knew I hadn't found good answers till he gave a few minutes there.
I will look for it and return with the reference for the video.
Extremely Enjoyable !!!
I couldn't even finish watching it. I don't understand how Frank could sit on the seat and complete the interview
For anyone interested: Here's an article on the Royal Society 2016 meeting.
evolutionnews.org/2016/12/why_the_royal_s/ ;)
I am so glad this clarifying question was asked by the host. Sharp!
I'm in television production and Cameron's lighting is absolutely perfect. Most youtubers use one ring light or something simple like that. He has a 3 point lighting sceme going on here. I'm an atheist who watches his channel. Don't agree with most of the content. But hats off on the production quality.
Scott LaFleur thank you! We def used 3 lights in this one. I have big plans for future interviews. Gonna get more creative.
Very nice of you Scott, please do consider his arguments with an open mind. We all are human brothers and sisters(family), Christianity bring us back to that conclusion and motivates people to live that way. But atheism doesn't care. What good atheism does to an uneducated, poor and neglected members of the human family? Did you know any Atheist going to a remote land to show love to people and educate and feed them?
Love you Scott. I believe we exist because God loves us. so I say God(our creator) loves you my brother. As you naturally love your child because you caused him to exist and you let him live freely but you won't tolerate if he harms himself or if he lust or rapes his own sister (sin). You'll punish him or you give him to police. Just think this way from God's 100% holy and just perspective. Have you ever hated or lusted any other member of the Human family? If there is a just God what He will do?
Then who can save us?
“For this is how God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life. God sent his Son into the world not to judge the world, but to save the world through him. “There is no judgment against anyone who believes in him. But anyone who does not believe in him has already been judged for not believing in God’s one and only Son. And the judgment is based on this fact: God’s light came into the world, but people loved the darkness more than the light, for their actions were evil. All who do evil hate the light and refuse to go near it for fear their sins will be exposed. But those who do what is right come to the light so others can see that they are doing what God wants. ”
John 3:16-21 NLT
Yep I agree, good production values for sure.
@@philip5136 Okay. So you seem to say atheism doesn't do this or atheists don't do this. You ask me if I know any atheists who help the needed. Not personally. I actually don't know any atheists personally. All my family and friends are christian. As far as what atheism does or doesn't do. All atheism is is the answer to one question. Do you believe in a god or gods? My answer is no. That's all it is.
@@scottlafleur4148 Hi brother! Why didn't you believe that God exists? How did you come to that conclusion Brother? I was also an atheist, in fact a blasphemer, arrogant and self-centred.. but all that I did to other is injustice, I hurted my parents, I lied to People who loves me. This is vicious, a simple lie is betraying someone's trust. And if I die and also others who were hurt and betrayed by me there is no point in living life if there is no one to judge and to give justice. All we see around is just meaningless. We are people made in the image of God (Bible gives that value to a human being) same in essence and equal in the sight of God. But We fail to treat eachother that way even we know that it's not good. That is sin and it is separated us from God. Only feeling sorry for that life and asking forgiveness to God our father changes life just as my life and attitudes and purpose has changed. When I see Christ paying for my sins on the cross.( He is 100% human too our brother in flesh). He gave Himself as a sacrifice to draw our attention to himself. So that we may think and come back to senses. His suffering out of Love opens our minds if it doesn't then nothing can soften our hearts. When I ask forgiveness, God changed me and gave me a new life. Now I experience peace, joy and meaning in life. Even being thousands of miles away from you I'm able to love you. Can you see my heart and Christ love behind it!
3:05 ironic considering Dr Turek is an old-earther. (at least that's what he said in a conference a few years back)
Hope one day that I can make a ministry for God as effective as Dr Turek's.
How to be a Christian apologist...”study hard.....formal education “
How to be an atheist apologist. “Know thy self....observe the world around you”
Is this the first time this interviewer had interviewed 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣