I'm watching this 5 years after it was made and I gotta say good job to Austin. You look better now. More fit and healthy and confident. You don't look bad in this video. You just look better now in 2021. That's impressive. And Kay is just always gorgeous.
If you are looking solely for production _quantity per animal_, then yes, these breeds may be for you. If you're looking for animals better capable of surviving under natural pasture land without supplemental feed, and with unique nutritive properties not found in overly selective-bred animals, then more ancient, small animal breeds will likely suit you well. It's important to remember that smaller animals, while smaller at slaughter, require less supplemental feed, more vigorous breeds less management and have lower mortality rates under natural circumstances, and can be stocked in greater numbers. Not all meat is created equal in nutritive and flavorful properties, nor milk-- even at the breed level. Of course, if you're looking into this for money, then it is understandable that customers habitually go for quantity over quality, so that may not be an option. But small animals are perfectly useful if you decide to eat them yourselves- if you're willing to eat the organ meats, which tend to be better developed in more vigorous animal breeds, and far more nutritious than just the muscle meat. They're also much easier to butcher yourself when they're small. If I were to recommend dairy goats for vigor and low maintenance, it would be the Kiko goat. It's bred for meat, but is capable of producing enough milk to feed its rapidly growing (and frequently occurring) twins, thrives well by vigorously eating poor quality forage, and is an otherwise very survivable animal with good survival instincts. If you want a smaller animal that won't eat everything in its path to bits, I would cross it with a Nigerian Dwarf goat- they're beautiful (good for pelts), and they produce exceptionally rich milk on low feed. I think your choice of sheep was great- some other good ones I found include Icelandic sheep, or Damara sheep.
Interesting points! We raised Nigerian Dwarfs. In my opinion they were not worth the effort for the amount of milk we got from them for our needs, but It's not a bad option if you find good genetics and don't want gallons and gallons of milk (we were trying to supplement pig feed).
Homesteady If that is how you felt, I trust your judgment on what works for you. For me, the solution would be to have more land so I can stock more goats in higher quantities, because higher quantities = easier genetic management, but if you feel better with the Nubians, then that is the best option for you. One mention I think you should make is that the "Golden cross" described in your video involves crossbreeding 2 already endangered breeds of sheep, which can contribute to their eventual extinction. Both have great unique traits (The big horns of the Wiltshire Horn and the extremely high parasite and humidity resistance of the St. Croix), and hybrids as far as I know are seldom ever used in subsequent breeding, which poses a genetic problem in the sustainability of these breed populations.
@@DAPTXDC4869 hi there! You are amazing I like that you recommend smaller animals goat or ancient breeds both are idea we don't see enough I have 2 acre homestead just close the contrct 2 weeks ago I'm going with goats maybe the pigme ones? We want meat mainly but also everytimg else you mentioned like easy butchering and ll the points you mention about the ease of a small breed
+Homesteady It's the darnedest thing. I had to put my wonderful LaMancha, Moses, down 2 days ago because he got very sick, very suddenly, & started having horrible seizures. Quick backstory: I got him last July from a lady who was going to put him down because he was attacked by something (she said a dog) & he had horrible wounds on his hind legs, & had horrible body condition (very thin). She couldn't afford to take him to the vet, & didn't know how to doctor him herself. I figured it would be worth a try to save him. His leg wounds healed quickly after I started treating him, & he got along really well on the ranch. He packed on some weight & got healthy. He liked hanging around with the cattle & horses, went hiking with me & the dogs every day. He was pretty delightful to have around. He had a different personality than my Boers. More docile & less pushy. I'm going to miss that guy. I wouldn't mind having more of them. How are they as milkers? I am looking to expand my little herd to include a dairy goat or two. Sorry for rambling. It's been a hard week, after having to put him down. =(
I am looking into getting goats and possible sheep for my homestead. I want a dual purpose breed I do not drink milk (unless it is chocolate occasional) So I want a goat with a high fat content milk Since I would make cheese and soap out of the milk. The other thing is I would like to also use them for meat for mostly the males I do not want to keep and maybe the female if I have to many to manage of them.
I am looking for more information on Kinder goats. These guys just did an easy, medium, hard scale and put goats on the hard end (poll driven btw). I am curious how Kinder goats compare on difficulty.
Wait question, you said taste the milk, do different breeds of goats have different flavors of milk? The milk I've bought from the health food store were really.... Smelly and tasted like how a goat smells. Maybe it's just something to get used to? My husband and I want to have a small group of goats (about 6 in total) we're planning in about 5 years to start our homestead.
@@rchester1943 If the doe is kept around the buck during lactation the milk will have a goaty flavor and smell. I always keep my girls separated from my buck when they are in milk. What you're feeding your girls will also affect the taste of the milk.
Goat cheese, goat yogurt, goat ice cream and goat butter in addition to your daily milk needs. Each goat has her own taste to her milk. Food can change the taste of the milk. Lol be goats. 💚🐐
In England, eating lamb without Mint Sauce is unthinkable, so 2 ideas for you, call one of the sheep Minty (as in the herb Mint), and try growing/making mint sauce, once you try it, you will never eat lamb without it again. All the best.
I am really thinking about getting some goats for some milk and some meat. I do not have any experience with them and would like to get some good info from you.
7yrs later.. how's those Nubians working? I wasn't planning to have Nubians, but I acquired four nannies in the fall. I heard a Saanen/Nubian cross is a great meat/milk goat. But if you think your Nubians are better than said cross, I'm all ears... and I'm looking for a buck
Can you mix 🐐 breads. Like a couple angoras a couple cashmere a few dwarfs and a few saanda? Like I want alllll the Goats 🐐 but see most farmers only have one breed only.
Love Nubians. We raise Oberhaslis for Milk. I cant bring myself to eat my goats. We raise lambs with no issue, but the goats have too much personality. We didnt go with Nubians because they are a little more vocal. Greta video. Well made. I enjoy them alot!!
Looking good!! Names? Hairy and Merry :-). Was one of those young nubians the one you lost? Eager to hear about the sheep. The guy who owned our property befor us did sheep. We have done everything but them, simply because they seem difficult to me. Best wishes with your new flock! Melodee
Homesteady still productive with it? did they tell you the winter feed? we do feed pellets but it's super rare for us. it's only done so they know what pellet feed is
sweetirisfarm my go to is nubians for does and boer or kiko buck, makes the kids able to be butchered with a lot of meat on their bone (hybrid vigor) when I breed off to keep kids I bring in a Nubian buck from a friend and keep the does back even if I only get one it's still cheaper than keeping the Nubian and boer bucks at the same time since we breed off for meat more often than dairy does it just makes more sense to keep the buck as the meat producer as opposed to the dairy one.
@@Mittzie what do you do with the nubian x boer does? Is there s market for them? Or do you butcher as well? Were getting nubian does for milk, but would like to use the bucks for meat
Mugsey1984 butcher when we are looking for dairy babies we breed off to a Nubian buck of the neighbors lol. If you can only keep one buck though go for a Nubian, if you can keep 2 keep one of each.
Usually people run raw milk through a strainer to catch any stray hairs or bugs that might fall into the milk. But other than that, you're good to drink it warm or cool. Goat milk doesn't like to separate like cow milk so the cream is mixed in much more evenly.
+H.D. Castleberry haha, first of we are in CT, so everything is way more money! That said, it would be cheaper at Walmart, but they don't sell raw milk... And if they did, not sure I'd do it 😜
Yes, we couldn't. Some people have awesome ways of doing it. Our recent podcast we interview someone making a killing. But at the end of the day my remark was "I'll believe it when I see it" haha. Wasn't a great fit for our homestead.
He said the lambs were used for the lawns not the goats. Additionally they supplement if there isn't enough grass. That's just common sense. He never said they strictly eat grass. SMH
I'm watching this 5 years after it was made and I gotta say good job to Austin. You look better now. More fit and healthy and confident. You don't look bad in this video. You just look better now in 2021. That's impressive. And Kay is just always gorgeous.
Well for names for your sheep I suggest John and Dear. That way you can have John Dear lawn mowers. LOL
This guy seems nice person with nice family wish you all good fortune.
Excellent video sir. Great description and well made. Looks exactly like where I'm wanting to be in a few years. Keep up the great work!
Will do Joe! Thanks
Tennessee allows buying goat shares, when you pick up your own goats milk you can usually pay you boarding fee to the farmer. Works well here.
Also thank you for all the info you share with us! It is so helpful for all my research and planning!
If you are looking solely for production _quantity per animal_, then yes, these breeds may be for you. If you're looking for animals better capable of surviving under natural pasture land without supplemental feed, and with unique nutritive properties not found in overly selective-bred animals, then more ancient, small animal breeds will likely suit you well. It's important to remember that smaller animals, while smaller at slaughter, require less supplemental feed, more vigorous breeds less management and have lower mortality rates under natural circumstances, and can be stocked in greater numbers. Not all meat is created equal in nutritive and flavorful properties, nor milk-- even at the breed level. Of course, if you're looking into this for money, then it is understandable that customers habitually go for quantity over quality, so that may not be an option. But small animals are perfectly useful if you decide to eat them yourselves- if you're willing to eat the organ meats, which tend to be better developed in more vigorous animal breeds, and far more nutritious than just the muscle meat. They're also much easier to butcher yourself when they're small.
If I were to recommend dairy goats for vigor and low maintenance, it would be the Kiko goat. It's bred for meat, but is capable of producing enough milk to feed its rapidly growing (and frequently occurring) twins, thrives well by vigorously eating poor quality forage, and is an otherwise very survivable animal with good survival instincts. If you want a smaller animal that won't eat everything in its path to bits, I would cross it with a Nigerian Dwarf goat- they're beautiful (good for pelts), and they produce exceptionally rich milk on low feed.
I think your choice of sheep was great- some other good ones I found include Icelandic sheep, or Damara sheep.
Interesting points! We raised Nigerian Dwarfs. In my opinion they were not worth the effort for the amount of milk we got from them for our needs, but It's not a bad option if you find good genetics and don't want gallons and gallons of milk (we were trying to supplement pig feed).
Homesteady
If that is how you felt, I trust your judgment on what works for you. For me, the solution would be to have more land so I can stock more goats in higher quantities, because higher quantities = easier genetic management, but if you feel better with the Nubians, then that is the best option for you.
One mention I think you should make is that the "Golden cross" described in your video involves crossbreeding 2 already endangered breeds of sheep, which can contribute to their eventual extinction. Both have great unique traits (The big horns of the Wiltshire Horn and the extremely high parasite and humidity resistance of the St. Croix), and hybrids as far as I know are seldom ever used in subsequent breeding, which poses a genetic problem in the sustainability of these breed populations.
@@DAPTXDC4869 hi there! You are amazing I like that you recommend smaller animals goat or ancient breeds both are idea we don't see enough
I have 2 acre homestead just close the contrct 2 weeks ago
I'm going with goats maybe the pigme ones? We want meat mainly but also everytimg else you mentioned like easy butchering and ll the points you mention about the ease of a small breed
Speed and growth rate of the bloodlines is a beneficial trait, and I have been dealing with predators and lost all but 1 of 3
You need big, old-world goat dogs. Cougar daren't fool with my Anatolian/Pyrenees mix guys, nor would a wild boar fare well with them.
Cool video. Goats are awesome. I have Boer/Alpine crosses & LaMancha.
+AnnieO&Co. How do you like your LaManchas? Mine is constant trouble!
+Homesteady It's the darnedest thing. I had to put my wonderful LaMancha, Moses, down 2 days ago because he got very sick, very suddenly, & started having horrible seizures.
Quick backstory: I got him last July from a lady who was going to put him down because he was attacked by something (she said a dog) & he had horrible wounds on his hind legs, & had horrible body condition (very thin). She couldn't afford to take him to the vet, & didn't know how to doctor him herself. I figured it would be worth a try to save him. His leg wounds healed quickly after I started treating him, & he got along really well on the ranch. He packed on some weight & got healthy. He liked hanging around with the cattle & horses, went hiking with me & the dogs every day. He was pretty delightful to have around. He had a different personality than my Boers. More docile & less pushy. I'm going to miss that guy.
I wouldn't mind having more of them. How are they as milkers? I am looking to expand my little herd to include a dairy goat or two.
Sorry for rambling. It's been a hard week, after having to put him down. =(
+AnnieO&Co. Good milk, quantity depends on the line. Same with manners, our last one was quite the kicker.
+AnnieO&Co. Sorry about Moses 😔
I am looking into getting goats and possible sheep for my homestead. I want a dual purpose breed I do not drink milk (unless it is chocolate occasional) So I want a goat with a high fat content milk Since I would make cheese and soap out of the milk. The other thing is I would like to also use them for meat for mostly the males I do not want to keep and maybe the female if I have to many to manage of them.
Good looking choice! Thanks very sharing.
Have you looked into kinder goats? They are Nubian crossed with pygmy goats. Meat and dairy goat.
I am looking for more information on Kinder goats. These guys just did an easy, medium, hard scale and put goats on the hard end (poll driven btw). I am curious how Kinder goats compare on difficulty.
"Less taxes paid to the government" hahahaha awesome. That comment won me over.
Our government is owned and operated by Israel 🇮🇱 and China 🇨🇳 .. people are waking up though
Wait question, you said taste the milk, do different breeds of goats have different flavors of milk? The milk I've bought from the health food store were really.... Smelly and tasted like how a goat smells. Maybe it's just something to get used to? My husband and I want to have a small group of goats (about 6 in total) we're planning in about 5 years to start our homestead.
milk straight from the goat is not smelly, you can`t tell the difference from cow`s milk, it`s really good
@@rchester1943 If the doe is kept around the buck during lactation the milk will have a goaty flavor and smell. I always keep my girls separated from my buck when they are in milk. What you're feeding your girls will also affect the taste of the milk.
I know this is an old video, but where can someone go and buy this line of nubian that gets very large and is registered?
Thank you so very much!! I have been looking for this information. I appreciate you sharing.
Raising nubians on my farm for almost 20 years
Nubians are the best! Good milk and good meat production! Nubians are probably the only goats that produce milk all year! Number 1 in my opinion!🙏🇺🇸
@@luketilley9137 do nubian goats have milk everyday?
I heard Nubians are loud? Has that been your experience?
Goat cheese, goat yogurt, goat ice cream and goat butter in addition to your daily milk needs. Each goat has her own taste to her milk. Food can change the taste of the milk. Lol be goats. 💚🐐
In England, eating lamb without Mint Sauce is unthinkable, so 2 ideas for you, call one of the sheep Minty (as in the herb Mint), and try growing/making mint sauce, once you try it, you will never eat lamb without it again. All the best.
+Nigel Johnson Will Do, sounds delicious!
Call your ram Porkchop. I know, maybe a bit weird, but cute. Had a rooster named Porkchop.
I am really thinking about getting some goats for some milk and some meat. I do not have any experience with them and would like to get some good info from you.
If you cross the does to a boar buck, the kids will be meatier, but of course the doelings will be half boar, too.
7yrs later.. how's those Nubians working? I wasn't planning to have Nubians, but I acquired four nannies in the fall. I heard a Saanen/Nubian cross is a great meat/milk goat. But if you think your Nubians are better than said cross, I'm all ears... and I'm looking for a buck
very helpful video. thank you
Can you mix 🐐 breads. Like a couple angoras a couple cashmere a few dwarfs and a few saanda?
Like I want alllll the Goats 🐐 but see most farmers only have one breed only.
Love Nubians. We raise Oberhaslis for Milk. I cant bring myself to eat my goats. We raise lambs with no issue, but the goats have too much personality. We didnt go with Nubians because they are a little more vocal. Greta video. Well made. I enjoy them alot!!
+McClung Farm Thanks! Yea, its hard to do the whole meat and milk thing, but we are meat independent now, so thats great!
What do you think about Suffolk breed, plz advice
Looking good!! Names? Hairy and Merry :-). Was one of those young nubians the one you lost? Eager to hear about the sheep. The guy who owned our property befor us did sheep. We have done everything but them, simply because they seem difficult to me. Best wishes with your new flock! Melodee
Do you have a link to your aunts farm for anyone interested in buying their Nubians?
how well do they do on diy feed that goat breed? all homegrown feed? all diy feed for sheep? pasture finish?
+MsTokies Excellent. The stock we bought our buck from was all DIY fed. Sheep same, totally grassfed in summer, wintertime some DIY feed supplement.
Homesteady still productive with it? did they tell you the winter feed? we do feed pellets but it's super rare for us. it's only done so they know what pellet feed is
+MsTokies dont remember, sorry!
Where do you guys get your Sheep and Goats? And also what state do you guys live in? :)
+Shane West we've got them from local breeders, Craigslist and family members. We're in CT
So very helpful! Thank you!
I love Nubians and Alpines. I really love the cross. Some people call then Nupines. They're a bit hardier.
+sweetirisfarm that's one that we had as well. She was the best, very hardy and a great mother. Her milk was also delicious.
sweetirisfarm my go to is nubians for does and boer or kiko buck, makes the kids able to be butchered with a lot of meat on their bone (hybrid vigor) when I breed off to keep kids I bring in a Nubian buck from a friend and keep the does back even if I only get one it's still cheaper than keeping the Nubian and boer bucks at the same time since we breed off for meat more often than dairy does it just makes more sense to keep the buck as the meat producer as opposed to the dairy one.
@@Mittzie what do you do with the nubian x boer does? Is there s market for them? Or do you butcher as well? Were getting nubian does for milk, but would like to use the bucks for meat
Mugsey1984 butcher when we are looking for dairy babies we breed off to a Nubian buck of the neighbors lol. If you can only keep one buck though go for a Nubian, if you can keep 2 keep one of each.
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+Alexis' Fishin', Huntin', and Farming Show glad to have you back 😉
Yep. UA-cam has been doing that to people lately
Are you will to share the contact info to purchase?
Do you just drink the milk straight from the goats? Or is there more to it?
Usually people run raw milk through a strainer to catch any stray hairs or bugs that might fall into the milk. But other than that, you're good to drink it warm or cool. Goat milk doesn't like to separate like cow milk so the cream is mixed in much more evenly.
Cloud, curly, jessie
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Could you do a video explaining how hardy Nubian goats are, and comparing their pros and cons to other dairy breeds.
The sheep would be fun called Bow and Peep
Hey, just found this video doing a search for Nubians. I live in PA - does your relative's goat farm have a website?
Yes, Daisy. Will talk about that in this next weeks episode :(
Lucy and ricky
hi i would like to know if you keep your buck with the female goats thank you great video
Rambert for the Male sheep
Hello could you tell me the city that your family members are in.
Great video liked👍 thank you
What happened with camel 🐪 I haven’t seen them lately is she having a baby?
Great video informative video! Well done and thanks for sharing.
8.50 for milk?????
+Heidi Ahlgrim welcome to Raw Milk... In CT
Homesteady I thought the sale of Raw milk was illegal in the USA?
Heidi Ahlgrim goat milk in general where I am is 5$ per LITER for conventional, 8.50 per gallon for raw organic milk? Hell that's a steal.
C Weaver, It depends on the state. It's like illegal aliens lol
Raw cow milk is illegal in some states and legal n others.
8.50 a gallon? Where in the hell at? It's 1.98 at Walmart in Northeast Texas.
+H.D. Castleberry haha, first of we are in CT, so everything is way more money! That said, it would be cheaper at Walmart, but they don't sell raw milk... And if they did, not sure I'd do it 😜
RAW goat milk... not available at walmart.
for names how about ba,a,a,a,b i hope this helps :-P
We are looking for Nubian goats. Do the people in Pennsylvania have a website or an email that I’m able to contact them.
Naming them is a bad idea, it makes processing them so much more difficult.
Did you try Snubians?
am in Africa Zimbabwe I don't know how ican get a Nubian
How much does her aunt sell them for?
+The Renaissance Family Homestead (The Renaissance Momma) not sure... Have to check for you
It's probably too late but Peppin for a name. My interest is Pasties. English right Cornish pasties. :) milk, cheese..
Hi I’m from Barbados, can I have a cont at info for you guys ?
lilly and borix
Bo peep the sheep
I gotta good one for your sheep you should name them meatballs and chops....
Have
I would name then based on the Greek alphabet
Sheepy McSheepface
Hey like your video we goats too!
Thanks Oki!
Didn't you just put out a video that said you couldn't make goats profitable and returned them to your aunt?
Yes, we couldn't. Some people have awesome ways of doing it. Our recent podcast we interview someone making a killing. But at the end of the day my remark was "I'll believe it when I see it" haha. Wasn't a great fit for our homestead.
Big Foot! And Mower!
Should I separate my sheep from my goats so that they don’t breed ?
Goats won't breed with sheep or vise versa. They do need different minerals.
U can name her Razia
A gallon is not that uncommon if you have good dairy goats and eating well,
the good life
Name the male "Sir Whooliam" lol and maybe the female "lamb chop".
Guinea always feed the whole world.
watch out for CAE
Lamb Chops
I my live I have never seen goats mowing a loan,bo have seen them almost starving to death in a loan but no mowing a loan. This advise is wrong buddy.
He said the lambs were used for the lawns not the goats. Additionally they supplement if there isn't enough grass. That's just common sense. He never said they strictly eat grass. SMH
yo i am in i am getting goats
$8.50 a gallon where DA fuck do you live
its only $4. and some change here in Maryland
Raw milk is more expensive.
buck
Name your female sheep or goat Elsie