I hope Volvo will come with bigger battery-pack even for the uppgraded XC60 next year. I would lovet to se a Electric range of at least 120-160 km and faster charging 10-80% within 20-30 minutes. Volkswagen has these capabilities in the new VW Tiguan an VW Passat. So I expect Volvo to be able to fix this also. I drive XC60 T6 AWD 2024. Its a great car but faster charging and longer electric range would be perfect. Thanks Thom for all your good reviews! /Olle from Sweden. 😊
I think with the current setup they simply found sweet spot. I am able to achieve 80-90 km without any specific eco driving. More range would mean bigger battery so much heavier car so I wouldn’t expect that change without changing shape of the body. Regarding faster charging, you are right that might be useful but on the other hand slower charging is way better for battery health.
I'm also hopeful that there will be a new battery. I recently bought an S60 Recharge and love it. The 90 is too large for me, but if they put this extended range battery in a 60 or 40 (we don't get a plug-in hybrid 40 in the US, but I'm hopeful that we will now that Volvo seems to be backing away from going full EV by 2030), I would absolutely buy one.
Awesome! I did see a lot EX90’s in Torslanda (inside the gates) some weeks ago when I was there. Perhaps those are now driving around town. Or maybe the first customer cars!
The problem with PHEVs is that they rarely get plugged in. This is a big, big problem and I hope Volvo has reconfigured drivetrain to have a much larger pack and reduce ICE power plant capabilities to discourage gas burning all the time.
Multiple studies have shown most PHEVs drivers do not plug in car. Of course there are some who do, but when most do not, PHEVs can pollute more than hybrids.
@@barryw9473 Think most of these PHEV owners who do not charge are the so called “lease car” drivers! They don’t give a **** about their fuel consumption and just own these cars because they are cheap to use
Thats great - and business sensible - news 👍🇸🇪 Always wondered, if the current EV platforms, could also be configured as a hybrid.... or have they placed "all their eggs in one basket", in regards to going full EV...
I think that 'new development' wise their focus is on EV's. Updating this XC90 is just to fill the current gap (prevent loss of customers) that could be due to the EX90.
I’ve become annoyed with all the software issues. My 23 c40 ran for a year with no issues. Then something happened and the software is really glitchy. The dealer cannot replicate the issues. The LTE stops working . No gps. The charge limit page is dimmed out so you cannot set the limits. It defaults to 80. I’ve shown them pictures so they know I’m not making this up. They update the software and give it back to me only for it to last 24 hours and it stops again. The reset is to hold in the defrost button. That doesn’t work either. No reset on mine. I’m strongly thinking about ending it with Volvo after 4 cars from them . The tech is just no longer there compared to the huge screens over at bmw Cadillac and Mercedes. The new MINI countryman JCW is a looker. With bmw tech all over it and quirky MINI skin. I dunno.
What amazes me most, from a company that supposedly prioritizes efficiency and environment, “energy distribution using maps data” doesn’t work in my 2023 S60, where it worked perfectly in my 2022 S60. Extremely disappointing, going backwards, as is the phone app, it’s not remotely comparable to last year’s phone app. I am in Pennsylvania. My first Volvo was a 544. Geely is wasting six decades of Goodwill.
@@billurban1581 was your 22… the SENSUS? system? I think the major problems started when they went out of house and decided to go with GOOGLE AUTO. My dealer’s service dept says google is dealing with lots of ongoing issues. But it quickly becomes a car company’s problem when their skinned operating system is truly awful
Any news on the EX60? Is the xc60 going away next year? Volvo cars is now pushing massively these black edition, fully loaded versions of the XC60 (both mild hybrids B5 and phev T6&T8). It feels a lot like a “last edition “ move..
It's amazing that the current XC90 still looks so fresh! Agreed that the interior may be showing its age by now, but the exterior still looks fresh more than a decade later.
Keep my finger crossed they will not replace the perforated/ventilated maroon brown nappa leather seat away from the NEW XC90! At least make it an option please.
Hi Thom, thanks for your video, this is very exciting! Do you have any insight or experience into when this new facelifted XC90 might start its production and possibly be delivered to customers? I am asking because I have an order for a MY25 XC90 Recharge scheduled to be delivered in the beginning of October. I know that is too early for the facelifted version but curious whether it would be worth it to cancel the order and wait for the updated version.
This one is too big for me Thom. Having a XC60 (from ' 21 ) I'll be waiting for the new XC60 Hybrid 2025. When you have some news about the this car let me / us have this. Bye Tom !!
My future bucket list car will be updated, great news Tom and thanks for sharing!! Hopefully the onboard charger will also get DC charging of about 55 kwh like the VW and Mercedes cars
Same here! I did think of that DC option. However kinda expect that the current SPA platform tech is not suitable for that. Would be nice to have. But also, the 2 phase OBC with 6,4 or more can also do the job fine 👍
@@Fab84NL surely would be very nice! Though cost-wise I doubt if a bigger battery and stronger OBC and more new/advanced tech would still make the car competitive enough looking at the price. Let’s see September 4th! 😊
Great to know xc90 will still be with us
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Thom when do you think the XC60 is going to take a facelift as well? 2025 or 2026?
Looking at EX30-CC and ES90 to come first, I'd say in 2026 (announched) something will succeed the current gen XC60.
@@thom-lov Do you think we will get an XC60 or will it be EX60 next time?
I hope Volvo will come with bigger battery-pack even for the uppgraded XC60 next year. I would lovet to se a Electric range of at least 120-160 km and faster charging 10-80% within 20-30 minutes.
Volkswagen has these capabilities in the new VW Tiguan an VW Passat.
So I expect Volvo to be able to fix this also.
I drive XC60 T6 AWD 2024. Its a great car but faster charging and longer electric range would be perfect.
Thanks Thom for all your good reviews!
/Olle from Sweden. 😊
I think with the current setup they simply found sweet spot. I am able to achieve 80-90 km without any specific eco driving. More range would mean bigger battery so much heavier car so I wouldn’t expect that change without changing shape of the body. Regarding faster charging, you are right that might be useful but on the other hand slower charging is way better for battery health.
I'm also hopeful that there will be a new battery. I recently bought an S60 Recharge and love it. The 90 is too large for me, but if they put this extended range battery in a 60 or 40 (we don't get a plug-in hybrid 40 in the US, but I'm hopeful that we will now that Volvo seems to be backing away from going full EV by 2030), I would absolutely buy one.
Haha 😂 It's a re, re, relaunch of the EX90... Best comment
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Actually there are a few EX90s on the roads of Gothenburg already (and not the test models)
Awesome! I did see a lot EX90’s in Torslanda (inside the gates) some weeks ago when I was there. Perhaps those are now driving around town. Or maybe the first customer cars!
The problem with PHEVs is that they rarely get plugged in. This is a big, big problem and I hope Volvo has reconfigured drivetrain to have a much larger pack and reduce ICE power plant capabilities to discourage gas burning all the time.
Think this realy depends on the owner. I have a phev and I plug it in several times a week! On a 40L fuel tank I get about 1500km
Multiple studies have shown most PHEVs drivers do not plug in car. Of course there are some who do, but when most do not, PHEVs can pollute more than hybrids.
@@barryw9473 Think most of these PHEV owners who do not charge are the so called “lease car” drivers! They don’t give a **** about their fuel consumption and just own these cars because they are cheap to use
@@barryw9473not enough plugs.
I plug mine in most days and drive 98% of my driving using the battery
Thats great - and business sensible - news 👍🇸🇪 Always wondered, if the current EV platforms, could also be configured as a hybrid.... or have they placed "all their eggs in one basket", in regards to going full EV...
I think that 'new development' wise their focus is on EV's. Updating this XC90 is just to fill the current gap (prevent loss of customers) that could be due to the EX90.
I’ve become annoyed with all the software issues. My 23 c40 ran for a year with no issues. Then something happened and the software is really glitchy. The dealer cannot replicate the issues. The LTE stops working . No gps. The charge limit page is dimmed out so you cannot set the limits. It defaults to 80. I’ve shown them pictures so they know I’m not making this up. They update the software and give it back to me only for it to last 24 hours and it stops again. The reset is to hold in the defrost button. That doesn’t work either. No reset on mine. I’m strongly thinking about ending it with Volvo after 4 cars from them . The tech is just no longer there compared to the huge screens over at bmw Cadillac and Mercedes. The new MINI countryman JCW is a looker. With bmw tech all over it and quirky MINI skin. I dunno.
What amazes me most, from a company that supposedly prioritizes efficiency and environment, “energy distribution using maps data” doesn’t work in my 2023 S60, where it worked perfectly in my 2022 S60. Extremely disappointing, going backwards, as is the phone app, it’s not remotely comparable to last year’s phone app.
I am in Pennsylvania. My first Volvo was a 544. Geely is wasting six decades of Goodwill.
@@billurban1581 was your 22… the SENSUS? system? I think the major problems started when they went out of house and decided to go with GOOGLE AUTO. My dealer’s service dept says google is dealing with lots of ongoing issues. But it quickly becomes a car company’s problem when their skinned operating system is truly awful
Any news on the EX60? Is the xc60 going away next year? Volvo cars is now pushing massively these black edition, fully loaded versions of the XC60 (both mild hybrids B5 and phev T6&T8). It feels a lot like a “last edition “ move..
It's amazing that the current XC90 still looks so fresh! Agreed that the interior may be showing its age by now, but the exterior still looks fresh more than a decade later.
I fully agree. A typical timeless swedish design. 😊
@@thom-lovelegant.
Keep my finger crossed they will not replace the perforated/ventilated maroon brown nappa leather seat away from the NEW XC90! At least make it an option please.
Hi Thom, thanks for your video, this is very exciting! Do you have any insight or experience into when this new facelifted XC90 might start its production and possibly be delivered to customers? I am asking because I have an order for a MY25 XC90 Recharge scheduled to be delivered in the beginning of October. I know that is too early for the facelifted version but curious whether it would be worth it to cancel the order and wait for the updated version.
Thank you Thom! Have fun at the event!
Thanks! Will keep you all up-to-date. 😊
@@thom-lov I am waiting on a MY25 XC60 Plug in, so hope one of the surprises is not a new XC60 also. Fingers crossed that will come for MY27 ;)
I've been waiting for a long time. A 40kwh battery sounds pricey.
I guess T8 is probably 272 Hk EV + 303 hk Turbocharged 2.0 VEA total 575 hk 😅
Let's hope so, haha!!
Great to know! Waiting to buy one year old xc90 phev so prices could go down😅
Yep this is good news for the used XC90 market with the 3-layer battery! 😊
This one is too big for me Thom. Having a XC60 (from ' 21 ) I'll be waiting for the new XC60 Hybrid 2025. When you have some news about the this car let me / us have this. Bye Tom !!
Sure, first news: not coming in 2025. ✌️
Super Thom.
......looking forward !!
My future bucket list car will be updated, great news Tom and thanks for sharing!!
Hopefully the onboard charger will also get DC charging of about 55 kwh like the VW and Mercedes cars
Same here! I did think of that DC option. However kinda expect that the current SPA platform tech is not suitable for that. Would be nice to have. But also, the 2 phase OBC with 6,4 or more can also do the job fine 👍
@@thom-lov the current XC60 and 90 already have a 6,4kw onboard charger, so in my opinion there must be an upgrade coming! Hopefully 11kw minimum
@@Fab84NL surely would be very nice! Though cost-wise I doubt if a bigger battery and stronger OBC and more new/advanced tech would still make the car competitive enough looking at the price. Let’s see September 4th! 😊
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What about XC 60?
I guess, announced next year and first customer cars in 2026. Hopefully 😅