LPL: This is the LockPickingLawyer and what I have for you today is a welded shut slot machine which I am going to open using only a poker chip and a box of cereal.
Hello, this is the LockPickingLaywer, and today I have a challenge. I have to open a welded shut slot machine. This is no real problem for the plasma cutter I brought for this very occasion.
This is the lock picking lawyer and today I'm going to demonstrate the weakness of this welded Simon brand safe. Now I'm going to use my covert oxyacetylene needle and just melt these pins right off, because they use cheap metal. That's all for today folks
"It takes a fair bit of skill to open" in LPL speak means only a handful of the best could do it. This is something you will never hear said about anything from Master.
@@HerecomestheCalaveraRimgard's argument is, particularly if the wheels are expensive/desireable, the thief will want to avoid damaging the wheels, otherwise their value is lowered and/or it becomes obvious that they were stolen, and prying the lock off or cutting it is likely to cause damage to the wheel. Which leaves picking, which is hard to do.
There's a couple love lock bridges near me. I see a *bunch* of Master locks on them. Once I can spring for a Genesis set and some tags, I'm going to go nuts.
@@Kingcloudii you have insider knowledge. However, prying it off will more than likely damage the wheel you are trying to steal. So that would be the less desired approach
Yeah they got it off and damaged the wheel in the process, rims are stolen to sell. Pointless if you damage them. The one they use in that video is a super flat rim. Something super easy to get under and pry on with minimal damage. I have them installed on BMW wheels. No way you could just pry it off like they did without really damaging the wheel.
@@irodragon7184 yeah a smart man knows when to walk away and come back once they're relaxed. Happened to me working on multiple vehicles sometimes you have to leave and just come back
@@michaelf.2449 Hahaha. The way you've phrased that comment and in the context of picking locks, I read it to say 'yeah, when I'm trying to steal a car, sometimes you've just gotta walk away, calm down, come back and have another go.' Or you may be talking about car maintenance 🤣
Ok. Ya got me. I actually laughed out loud at: "I've seen these before on slot machines in Vegas....." And then he just kinda rolls on, and all I'm thinking is, THAT'S how he funds his picking habits! lol!
Thank you for your test, it’s an honour to be featured 🙏🏻 We’re not too concerned about the prying method. When the lock is installed according to instructions and the thief is concerned not to damage the wheel, the module performs very well as the deterrent it is intended to, especially on our latest modells (100$ cheaper too). We learn and move on.
Im always happy to see companies respond on here as it shows that a) they are checking for possible issues/suggestions on their locks and b) that they care. Nice job.
Add to the fact that he started off knowing which direction to pick, as he had the key, and that he had much more space to work with than normal. Yeah, this ones a bit of a monster.
I can't imagine there are too many criminals out there with experience picking locks. If you need to pick it and not bypass it or break it, I'd think that would be adequate for 95% of all attempted thefts. I can't imagine anyone with so few skills they need to steal for a living would develop the ability to pick a decent lock.
@@darrennew8211 Exactly. Even the 2% that do pick locks are probably limited to simple wave raking of Masterlocks to quietly get into sheds and steal bicycles.
@@darrennew8211 true, and thats usually why lockpicking isn't talked about much, but relying on people not knowing how to pick even the most basic locks is almost as bad as just relying on people to not steal your shit. Any bit of extra security is another dozen attempted robberies thwarted.
This was the most unsure ive ever heard him while picking a lock, and he STILL got it done in less than three minutes! (Maybe under 8 minutes if he picked it with no key to give direction away)
It’s not a bad product it seems. It would take LPL 12 minutes just to take the guards off and then he’d still have to take off the wheels, taking half an hour just to steal some wheels seems way too risky
@@Unknown-xf2ed The lock core is not bad. But the rest of the design seems to have some serious flaws that allow for brute force removal in less than 65 seconds. So all the great job they did at selecting a reputable hard to pick core is completely void. The best lock in the world can't secure a paper door.
Master lock is the high school jock in a small town. Popular. No effort needed in class. You’ll like him anyway…everybody likes him except for losers and dweebs, or else.
Which, to be fair, is true. And it took LPL considerably longer on this lock than most, which actually is a very good sign. No lock if ever be pick proof, but you can make it such a pain its not worth it.
Locks can absolutely be pick proof, there are several which have never been shown picked online like the Bowley padlock and the abloy Protec 2. They can be impressioned but it probably takes ages@@Destin5258
I googled this core and read a bit about it. But now I am really interested in seeing it gutted, because I can't even imagine how a springless core works!
It works by having gravity essentially do the spring's work for it. The Desmo has sliders that move freely up and down and their gates interact with a sidebar that is pushed in by the lock housing which pushes into its gates. LPL did pick the lock with both 6 sliders (the one shown here) and 8 sliders (the harder one, but equally as fun to pick) on an earlier video of his complete with gutting.
@@erikbergstrom258 less rust, but dust, yes. i guess its for the situation when you park a expensive car under a carport or something, i think then its not so much of a problem. but usually these abloy cores are found - like lpl said - in museums, jeweleries etc.
Lol. I remember reading about their test procedures for those, I'd love to hear the stories behind some of those tests ("doesn't malfunction when electrocuted with cattle prod"). Security on those is serious business.
Which seems odd, now that there isn't any actual money in most slot machines any more. I guess they don't want people dicking with the internal electronics?
can we take a second to appreciate LPL's organizational skills? Any lock he's ever picked, he knows exactly which video it was featured in. Perfect catalogued history.
U tell me a lock he has featured and I'll tell u what video it was featured in in less than 1 minute. I have no organization skills. All I have is a UA-cam search bar.
2min 40secs to pick by a pro lock picker on his bench vs. 65 sec to pry off by a criminal. If the company can make it more pry resistant, it wouldn't be a bad product.
Was just thinking this. The guys stealing rims aren't the ones who would take time to pick a lock. Brute force would be used and is faster for this lock.
The thing is that ir requires a lot of brute force to open and the thief is likely not going to want to go through the trouble of taking this off making a ton of noise for at least like 5 minutes (65s is only one wheel) and then end up having a damaged wheel that drops it's value tremendously as well as making it easyer to spot those wheels when attempting to resell them based on the damage
@@Solnoric These days, they steal the fuel before stealing the rims. Repairing the damage from fuel theft reportedly run into thousands of dollars for a replacement fuel tank that cannot be repaired without significant risk of explosion.
*LPL Going to Las Vegas with his wife* LPL: Ok folks, some people think that slot machines are lucked based, they are not. Wife: Wai-What? What are you doing ?! LPL: Nothing on one, Two is binding...
No offense but LPL wife seems the kind of girl that would try and smash the machine with a baseball bat all the while her husband was trying to pick the lock…
Ah but so much busier then the quiet environment shown here. Imagine bells, whistles, chatter of a casino and then trying to hear if the pin clicked up… plus cameras and people looking like crazy.
I now judge how difficult locks are to pick based on duration of LPL's videos, this one being over 5 minutes makes me realize it's one of the hardest locks to pick.
As soon as he said "I probably would have wasted several minutes" to explain about the direction, I flat out didn't believe him. If the LPL says that statement, unless followed by "picking 30 masterlocks," I have trouble believing it to be true, but apparently, this lock did take a few minutes to do the right way. Color me impressed!
@@asdf12347109 some of donuts stuff is lame. but there shows like B2B. HiLow and Everything you need to know is amazing content. Its what the core of the channel is. Collaborations from similar sized channels is a great way to benefit both channels.
@@asdf12347109 What? All thats happening is Donut is giving LPL exposure, and Maybe getting a couple subscribers in return. I would see your point if it was a IRL collab, where LPL had to exit his format and betray his Style for the benefit of Someone else's video, but that's not what happened. Donut literally just Gave LPL a video that would serve as a companion to their own. and ngl, this is one of the more Entertaining LPL vids I've seen in a while. He Almost Kinda struggled.
Considering the difficulty lpl had and the fact it would be in an awkward position if actually on the car i feel like this is one lock that actually is functionally "pick-proofc" as the chances of anyone actually disarming it by picking in the real world are extremely low
This was my thought too and LPL even stated it at the end. Out in the real world, this would be mounted to a wheel, so you'd presumably have to kneel way down and work in an uncomfortable position, and you wouldn't be able to get your hands behind it either. Not to mention, time would be a big factor, but you could say that about virtually any of the locks LPL reviews.
but you fail to take into account all the other added expenses that you would incure if your wheels are stolen. you have to replace all 4 wheels AND tires, then you have to pay for a tow truck, and most likely you would need to pay for a re alignment for your car and possibly some damage to the brake rotors since they were on the ground. on top of all that, you have to face the trauma of coming back to your car to find that you are helpless because your wheels got stolen. chances are that if your wheels got stolen, then you probably also have a broken window and stuff stolen from the car. The tires and wheels alone are MORE expensive than buying 4 of these wheel locks, but then you add everything else in and its a no brainer, it is way way cheaper to buy the wheel locks and save yourself massive headaches and money in the long run.
@@orion7741 For this money I can get 2 years of insurance that includes 0 excess for thefts like these. Probably It pays off to buy cheap wheel guards and 4 RIMGUARD stickers.
Wow after watching them destroy the body of that lug nut cover a few weeks ago I was certainly surprised to see LPL take that much time to pick the core. I guess that’s where the $450 price tag comes from. Too bad the cover wasn’t more resilient.
thats always something i find so funny about these videos, most of the times the lock/core is easily picked despite what they claim, but the ones that are ACTUALLY pick resistant usually have a weaker link somewhere else, i really feel like in this specific case, if someone was dead set on stealing your rims (and just having a lock didint deter) that they would sooner pry it open than pick it
Well if i remember right they did not put that lock on real nice wheels ither. On real nice rims trying to rip that sucker off might do more damage to the wheels finish meaning a thief would probably just move on to a different target
a slightly scratched wheel is better than no wheel. even if you have to get a new one you also get the satisfaction that at least the other guy didnt get it. regardless it of course sucks either way but better than nothing. another good thing about these is with them on it doesnt look like a guy changing a tire it looks pretty obviously they are stealing it. which can protect the car in some areas
@@nanaki-seto well, if were talking about a thief that didn't care which wheels he got, as long as he got some, they would see the lock and walk on to the next. We're talking about a determined, premeditated theft, they arent just going to settle for 40-dollar OEM rims on the Prius next door, They want your Super valuable forged aftermarket wheels, and nothing gonna stop them, unless it's something that can Actually physically stop them. They could probably wrap their Pry bar in rags, and sneak some painter's tape behind the wheel lock, then Go Ham on it. It would take them an extra few minutes, but in the middle of the night, that likely won't matter too much unless you've taken Other measures to protect yourself from Theft. Camera's, Smart Doorbells, etc. Locks only protect you from lazy thieves and honest people, which Should be enough for most situations, but if you fear theft strongly enough, Locks aren't a Reliable Last line of defense.
It said high pick resistance, not pick proof. This still lasted about 3 minutes against an experienced lock picker, so I would say that is more than good enough. The issue is prying it off in just over a minute
1:18 I like to think that LPL just knows all of his video numbers and their subjects without having to look it up. Seriously though, he must have a master spreadsheet outlining each video number paired with the locks used, tools used, and other pertinant tags about what was covered.
Do you actually know any (good) lawyers? This is how a good one rolls. If they don't have an eidetic memory, they have an awesome filing system with assistants that know it very well.
@@maxfingal most thieves leave if they can't get a lock open in under a minute. 3 minutes per wheel, that's over 12 minutes, thats if a professional is trying to pick them. I would trust this lock, considering someone can just steal your catalytic converter in about a minute with the right tools
@@philtheboi358 given that they can pop it off with a pry bar in a minute, someone looking to steal would probably go with that. Though in most cases they would go to the next car.
@@satibel if your rims are expensive enough you want a lock for them, anyone except the dumbest of dumbasses is gonna want to minimize damage when stealing them.
@@satibel No they won't, they'd be damaging the rim they want to resell, as was done in Donut Media's video. Their rim was also flat and thus very easy to get under with a pry bar.
Every time I think that 'yeah this lock is new to him, I have never seen him picking it" he comes with very old videos where he already picked it. like is there actually any lock that he hasn’t picked it. what a professional
I bought this lock after my rims were stolen. I thought it was secure and this gives me some reasurance. Maybe not the fact that at Donut they were able to remove it in 65 second, but seeing how long it took to pick definitely helps
Iirc in the video by donut they said that it was partially to do with how these locks sat on the wheels, they weren't fully flush on the wheels they had it on.
@@kenneth6102 Not really, they stole all of the rims on my brand new 2022 accord within 2 weeks of me getting the car. Insurance picked up the car, as soon as I got it I started parking on a private garage and put those locks on. They haven't stolen them yet, but they have scrached my car a whole lot. Oh well, that's what you get for trying to have nice things in the Bronx.
Well, the good news is that because the prying attack apparently damages the rims, it’s actually pretty secure. There’s no point in prying off the lock to get the rims if you’re going to destroy the rims in the process. Cause if you damage the rims, all you really get is scrap metal. And of course, your lock doesn’t need to be completely impenetrable. It’s like escaping a hungry bear. You don’t have to outrun the bear. You just have to run faster than the guy next to you.
Shoutout LPL for always being willing to be loads of creators final check for "pick resistance" or even "unlockable" Your contribution to already great content is far and wide, and I'm all here for it.
I had posted in a Donut Media post in the video about this lock how: "I couldn't wait for LPL to pick this -shitty- lock in literally seconds" Picked it in 160 seconds, while explaining/commenting, and you are the greatest that ever did it *every* time. But, I far underestimated that lock! =/ I thought it was some half-assed wafer lock, but I see now I was greatly mistaken. Great work as always tho' LPL!
I love this channel, at 33 I still pick my way into my parent's house because I trained on their locks at the ripe age of 12 with homemade picks. Those picks still live in my wallet and even though I'm no expert, I am never frustrated when I accidentally lock myself out of my house without my keys. These are all very useful skills to possess and learn them early because you'll be practicing for your entire life. I have cracked multiple safes as well for fun, anything mechanical like this intrigues me and is always victim to its own tolerances and manipulation. Keep up the great videos brother!
Your understanding how lock mechanisms work is Pretty dam Awesome. Love it. So nice to see someone understanding the theory and putting into practice.👍
I recently picked up a covert companion set and have been playing around with a master lock I had sitting around. You make it look so easy in your videos but I struggle to open even this simple lock.(which I did manage to rake open once) It makes me appreciate your skill even more.
Lovely. At least you show your almost fails and even admits. I like when people I put above me fails or almost fails. I get to learn so much more and keep pushing on
I have these on my 2021 accord sport. Only thing that keeps people from stealing my sport wheels. I know you can pry them off, but generally if you make things just a little bit more difficult people will skip you.
OK, wait, why would you spend this much money to put anti-wheel theft on an accord of all cars? Plus, with how easy they pry off you almost certainly would get better protection with the conventional keyed lug nuts that are available for 1/50th of the cost.
@@Elkadetodd Those are the worst. A friend got rather annoyed when someone smashed a side window in his car in order to steal a dirt cheap stereo. In some places it is so bad that people leave their cars unlocked to avoid damage when thieves loot them.
Well done! That's directed to Donut for their entertaining video, to you, LPL, for picking this lock, and to Rimguard for making a quality product. Kudos all around.
well the core is good but in the Donut video they literally pried it off the wheel in like a minute. so while im honestly not sure about the qualitative state of the product, i am absolutely certain its not worth 450$ lol
I imagine it's like putting expanded metal or other armor over a catalytic converter - it's not impossible to defeat it, it's just more difficult which causes thieves to pick easier targets.
To be fair, he started picking around 1:50, and opened it around 4:30, so a little less than 3 minutes (although he admits in the wild it may have taken him a few more minutes because he would have tried to turn it clockwise rather than counter clockwise). Still decent tho
It amazes me that all we see is a pair of hands but deep in that core we have some serious maneuvering going on perfectly narrated by Mr. LPL. Awesome videos man 👍🏽
You'd have to do that 5 times in the wild: Once clockwise to find out you have it wrong, then once for each wheel. If it took him a few minutes you know even a skilled lockpicker is dedicating an hour to picking all of these and to actually remove the wheels. Furthermore Prying it off would damage them. In short they essentially make the theft of your wheels something to not be concerned about.
Chances are all 4 would be keyed alike, so with each it would take less time. The positioning of the sliders is something you could memorize and apply as you go. Still a damn good lock, but do you have to spend $450 for each wheel? That's $1800!
@@KF1 Nah they'd all need different keys, different biting, 100% because you'd be buying them individually it would be silly if 1 key opened all locks by that brand. I don't know the answer to the next part. Machinery, probably.
@@MintRobin Naw should be single key. Separate for each is inconvenient and cumbersome amount of keys from a user perspective. I hate having ton of keys on the keychain like an old janitor
@@bigtitmaster I guess whenever it's time to change winter tires. And then back again in the spring, plus tire rotation. * Also have to be able to at any time in case of a flat etc, or when you change your brake pads, or anything that requires the wheels come off, which is more often than you might think from a maintenance perspective. You gotta produce now a handful more keys to give your mechanic every time you go there just in case he needs to take them off When paying $1800 for a set of locks, no way it's 4 keys. 1 key that's tits.
That wheel lock is a winner. Even LPL needed about 5 minutes and he knew the direction of rotation. More importantly, LPL was not picking four of these while kneeling on the side of a cold, dark street, followed by removing 20x lug nuts, jacking the car up on bricks, and loading up the stolen rims into his truck.
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Nice work! Looks like we'll have to stick with the pry bar 😳
Looks like they deserve to go on high car.
If it works... it works... Pry bar for the win...
Glad you guys sent this to LPL. I remember watching the video and hoping you would.
I can’t believe LPL knows donut that blew my mind
@@AwokenGhost fair chance it's more like big UA-camr was aware of other big UA-camr and reached out thru publicly provided means.
"How pick resistant is your lock?"
"About 5 minutes on Lock Picking Lawyer"
Now put that sentence in the remix of Calvin Haris 🤣🤣🤣
sounds like high praise to me!
Said no one ever.
scottgriz....to be fair he didn't start PICKING until about 1:41....plus LPL is narrating which a thief would not be doing... I don't think.
"Five whole minutes? I'll buy three!"
*LPL goes to Las Vegas*
Casino: "Weld it shut."
Worker: "But sir, how will we maintain the-"
Casino: "WELD IT SHUT!"
LPL: This is the LockPickingLawyer and what I have for you today is a welded shut slot machine which I am going to open using only a poker chip and a box of cereal.
Hello, this is the LockPickingLaywer, and today I have a challenge. I have to open a welded shut slot machine. This is no real problem for the plasma cutter I brought for this very occasion.
This is the lock picking lawyer and today I'm going to demonstrate the weakness of this welded Simon brand safe. Now I'm going to use my covert oxyacetylene needle and just melt these pins right off, because they use cheap metal. That's all for today folks
So I brought my pick-up truck and ripped the machine out with a chain, then threw it off the roof of a parking garage and got the money.
@@Weneedaplague Great, now I want a pocket gas axe...
"It takes a fair bit of skill to open" in LPL speak means only a handful of the best could do it. This is something you will never hear said about anything from Master.
The lock seems pretty good but all that is pointless when it can be busted off with a pry bar.
@@HerecomestheCalaveraRimgard's argument is, particularly if the wheels are expensive/desireable, the thief will want to avoid damaging the wheels, otherwise their value is lowered and/or it becomes obvious that they were stolen, and prying the lock off or cutting it is likely to cause damage to the wheel. Which leaves picking, which is hard to do.
There's a couple love lock bridges near me. I see a *bunch* of Master locks on them. Once I can spring for a Genesis set and some tags, I'm going to go nuts.
@@Mutisi0n Unless they welded them shut like LPL did lol
finally, a lock that claim to be pick resistance and actually isn’t lying
the problem is that each wheel lock can be broke in 60 seconds
Yea why pick it? When I can just smash it off like any other lock? Lol
@@Kingcloudii you have insider knowledge. However, prying it off will more than likely damage the wheel you are trying to steal. So that would be the less desired approach
Yeah they got it off and damaged the wheel in the process, rims are stolen to sell. Pointless if you damage them. The one they use in that video is a super flat rim. Something super easy to get under and pry on with minimal damage.
I have them installed on BMW wheels. No way you could just pry it off like they did without really damaging the wheel.
@@jmac316 How do I get a padlock with this technology? He actually had to try!
I think this is the first time I’ve heard LPL say “is giving me some trouble” in the context of picking a lock. Now that’s impressive.
It is at least two levels above the also seldomly heard 'hmmm...'
On his seminar about cyber security he struggled with a lock and gave up on it as it was a live demonstration and it was just being annoying.
@@irodragon7184 yeah a smart man knows when to walk away and come back once they're relaxed. Happened to me working on multiple vehicles sometimes you have to leave and just come back
@@michaelf.2449 Hahaha. The way you've phrased that comment and in the context of picking locks, I read it to say 'yeah, when I'm trying to steal a car, sometimes you've just gotta walk away, calm down, come back and have another go.'
Or you may be talking about car maintenance 🤣
@@pigeonpoo1823 🤷 look at my other comments on this channel ya never know. 😂😂
Ok.
Ya got me. I actually laughed out loud at: "I've seen these before on slot machines in Vegas....."
And then he just kinda rolls on, and all I'm thinking is, THAT'S how he funds his picking habits! lol!
He's also a lawyer...
@@staomruel Retired, last I heard. Might have heard wrong though.
@@staomruel Yep. The legal training comes in handy when the casino owners get mad at him.
@@neolexiousneolexian6079 Not sure if lawyers are the worst casino owners would sent after him...
@@Alresu gone are the days of the mob and hired goons... 😂
Thank you for your test, it’s an honour to be featured 🙏🏻
We’re not too concerned about the prying method.
When the lock is installed according to instructions and the thief is concerned not to damage the wheel, the module performs very well as the deterrent it is intended to, especially on our latest modells (100$ cheaper too). We learn and move on.
That’s amazing
Ayo I’ll trade you my club sandwich for one of those locks 🥪🔒
and of course if the would-be thief *isn't* concerned with damaging the wheel...well, you've got bigger problems than a lock at that point.
Im always happy to see companies respond on here as it shows that a) they are checking for possible issues/suggestions on their locks and b) that they care. Nice job.
This is an actually great product!
If it takes this long for LPL it's good enough pick resistance wise.
I want this on every door I own everywhere I go. 2m40 for LPL? I consider that unpickable for any mere mortal
Add to the fact that he started off knowing which direction to pick, as he had the key, and that he had much more space to work with than normal.
Yeah, this ones a bit of a monster.
I can't imagine there are too many criminals out there with experience picking locks. If you need to pick it and not bypass it or break it, I'd think that would be adequate for 95% of all attempted thefts. I can't imagine anyone with so few skills they need to steal for a living would develop the ability to pick a decent lock.
@@darrennew8211 Exactly. Even the 2% that do pick locks are probably limited to simple wave raking of Masterlocks to quietly get into sheds and steal bicycles.
@@darrennew8211 true, and thats usually why lockpicking isn't talked about much, but relying on people not knowing how to pick even the most basic locks is almost as bad as just relying on people to not steal your shit. Any bit of extra security is another dozen attempted robberies thwarted.
This was the most unsure ive ever heard him while picking a lock, and he STILL got it done in less than three minutes! (Maybe under 8 minutes if he picked it with no key to give direction away)
I thought it was only me who heard that in his voice.
It’s not a bad product it seems. It would take LPL 12 minutes just to take the guards off and then he’d still have to take off the wheels, taking half an hour just to steal some wheels seems way too risky
@@Unknown-xf2ed The lock core is not bad. But the rest of the design seems to have some serious flaws that allow for brute force removal in less than 65 seconds. So all the great job they did at selecting a reputable hard to pick core is completely void. The best lock in the world can't secure a paper door.
Yo for real, often he slaps yhe locks around easy peezy. But this one was seriouse
@@Unknown-xf2ed It's still a bad product because even though it took a "significant" amount for a skilled attack, an unskilled attack was much faster.
Lockpocking Lawyer is like the mafia boss of locks. Every lock company wants HIS approval because of all the street cred he's earned 😭
Except Masterlock, they are forever content with mediocrity.
Master lock is the high school jock in a small town. Popular. No effort needed in class. You’ll like him anyway…everybody likes him except for losers and dweebs, or else.
On the contrary, he's gotten threatening letters from lock manufacturers, which is one of the reasons he hides his identity.
@@Globodyne mediocrity it too generous tbh
@@MrWhoey Why have they threatened him? He's doing them a favor for free by showing the vulnerabilities.
I love how their website just goes "Yeah, well, just because Lockpicking Lawyer can do it doesn't mean it's not secure!"
Which website?
@@pierretadrus5285 The one referenced by Donut in their letter.
Which, to be fair, is true. And it took LPL considerably longer on this lock than most, which actually is a very good sign. No lock if ever be pick proof, but you can make it such a pain its not worth it.
Locks can absolutely be pick proof, there are several which have never been shown picked online like the Bowley padlock and the abloy Protec 2. They can be impressioned but it probably takes ages@@Destin5258
I googled this core and read a bit about it. But now I am really interested in seeing it gutted, because I can't even imagine how a springless core works!
It works by having gravity essentially do the spring's work for it. The Desmo has sliders that move freely up and down and their gates interact with a sidebar that is pushed in by the lock housing which pushes into its gates. LPL did pick the lock with both 6 sliders (the one shown here) and 8 sliders (the harder one, but equally as fun to pick) on an earlier video of his complete with gutting.
He gutted it in video 141.
No the thin cuts in the key pull the sliders up and down like a track
@@alpama37 as a car mechanic am i right in thinking this would be very sensitive to rust and dust that wheels are very exposed to
@@erikbergstrom258 less rust, but dust, yes. i guess its for the situation when you park a expensive car under a carport or something, i think then its not so much of a problem. but usually these abloy cores are found - like lpl said - in museums, jeweleries etc.
Company : "This is a very pick resistant core"
Me : "HAha"
Company : "Used in vegas slot machines"
Me : Starts sweating
Lol. I remember reading about their test procedures for those, I'd love to hear the stories behind some of those tests ("doesn't malfunction when electrocuted with cattle prod"). Security on those is serious business.
Aaaahahaha yuuuup we were all right there with you.
Which seems odd, now that there isn't any actual money in most slot machines any more. I guess they don't want people dicking with the internal electronics?
@@darrennew8211HEY ....hey. I'm just old fashioned ok?
Sounds like a millennial reddit comment
can we take a second to appreciate LPL's organizational skills? Any lock he's ever picked, he knows exactly which video it was featured in. Perfect catalogued history.
U tell me a lock he has featured and I'll tell u what video it was featured in in less than 1 minute. I have no organization skills. All I have is a UA-cam search bar.
@@jaimedelgado7529 Using the search box is too hard for most of the youtube users... ;)
probably a spreadsheet with the video number and key words about the lock, picks used, company name etc
@@6agenthawk nah in each video he notes the core type/name. This will be what hes using as the same cores are used on many locks.
@@jaimedelgado7529 Writing a script and doing some basic research isn't exactly a magic trick, although others may think so.
LPL: "fair bit of skill to pick"
Me: Its impossible to pick unless you're a god
2min 40secs to pick by a pro lock picker on his bench vs. 65 sec to pry off by a criminal.
If the company can make it more pry resistant, it wouldn't be a bad product.
Was just thinking this. The guys stealing rims aren't the ones who would take time to pick a lock. Brute force would be used and is faster for this lock.
The thing is that ir requires a lot of brute force to open and the thief is likely not going to want to go through the trouble of taking this off making a ton of noise for at least like 5 minutes (65s is only one wheel) and then end up having a damaged wheel that drops it's value tremendously as well as making it easyer to spot those wheels when attempting to resell them based on the damage
65 seconds is too long. The guys trying to steal rims will just move on and hit the next car.
@@Solnoric These days, they steal the fuel before stealing the rims. Repairing the damage from fuel theft reportedly run into thousands of dollars for a replacement fuel tank that cannot be repaired without significant risk of explosion.
LPL isn't a pro lock picker, he's a legendary lock picker. Big difference. Most locksmiths don't come close to his skill level.
*LPL Going to Las Vegas with his wife*
LPL: Ok folks, some people think that slot machines are lucked based, they are not.
Wife: Wai-What? What are you doing ?!
LPL: Nothing on one, Two is binding...
No offense but LPL wife seems the kind of girl that would try and smash the machine with a baseball bat all the while her husband was trying to pick the lock…
Ah but so much busier then the quiet environment shown here. Imagine bells, whistles, chatter of a casino and then trying to hear if the pin clicked up… plus cameras and people looking like crazy.
@@asktheraccoon Please don't spoil part 2 of the story!
"LPL: Nothing.......... on one, Two is binding..." would have made this a truly GOD tier comment
@@matthewjackman8410 It does say that?
I now judge how difficult locks are to pick based on duration of LPL's videos, this one being over 5 minutes makes me realize it's one of the hardest locks to pick.
LPL : "I feel like it is moving"
Me : Ok, this is incredibly hard to pick
“in the wild” he says…
now we need some trailcam footage of LPL, preferrably going down the street just picking every lock he encounters!
That's what Dall E mini is for!
With a British guy narrating about the beauty of nature in the context of picking these locks
🔓
Would be interesting to see him try a hard-difficulty escape room
@@Mister_Clean that would be very cool
The most LPL-proof lock i've seen in a lot of time. Couple of minutes? Madness!!
As soon as he said "I probably would have wasted several minutes" to explain about the direction, I flat out didn't believe him. If the LPL says that statement, unless followed by "picking 30 masterlocks," I have trouble believing it to be true, but apparently, this lock did take a few minutes to do the right way. Color me impressed!
And then 3 more wheels to go ...
I’m impressed, haven’t seen LPL take that long on any lock let alone one claiming to be pick resistant.
Surprisingly the most impressive lock I have seen on this channel so far.
Love seeing 2 different genres of creators come together for stuff like this
I love that Donut has been doing collabs lately. LPL, LegalEagle, Linus Tech Tips, etc...
Hard no. Clickbait peddlers wrapping their tendrils around independent creators is nfg.
@@asdf12347109 some of donuts stuff is lame. but there shows like B2B. HiLow and Everything you need to know is amazing content. Its what the core of the channel is. Collaborations from similar sized channels is a great way to benefit both channels.
@@asdf12347109 What? All thats happening is Donut is giving LPL exposure, and Maybe getting a couple subscribers in return. I would see your point if it was a IRL collab, where LPL had to exit his format and betray his Style for the benefit of Someone else's video, but that's not what happened. Donut literally just Gave LPL a video that would serve as a companion to their own. and ngl, this is one of the more Entertaining LPL vids I've seen in a while. He Almost Kinda struggled.
Shame donut media is made up of mostly insufferable people making bottom of the barrel content though
The collaboration we didnt know we needed
Ikr
D o n u t s
@Don't read profile photo no
Could you imagine LPL and Ordinary Sausage collab?
Nobody needs a collaboration with Donut Media.
After watching LPL work on this for over 2 minutes, I'd say this one gets A+ rating against your average junkie trying to pick it.
Junkies don’t pick locks they use brute force not finesse.
Considering the difficulty lpl had and the fact it would be in an awkward position if actually on the car i feel like this is one lock that actually is functionally "pick-proofc" as the chances of anyone actually disarming it by picking in the real world are extremely low
the problem is that noone is going to have the lpl level of training, but anyone can use the prybar method...
This was my thought too and LPL even stated it at the end. Out in the real world, this would be mounted to a wheel, so you'd presumably have to kneel way down and work in an uncomfortable position, and you wouldn't be able to get your hands behind it either. Not to mention, time would be a big factor, but you could say that about virtually any of the locks LPL reviews.
Not many people have wheels on their car that cost as much as this lock. At $450 each, thieves would be more likely to steal the locks!
EACH?!!! Those wheel locks cost 450 EACH?!! 🤯 Wow!
$450 for the whole set
A good strategy, but reselling the locks would be hard if the thief doesn't have the key as well.
but you fail to take into account all the other added expenses that you would incure if your wheels are stolen. you have to replace all 4 wheels AND tires, then you have to pay for a tow truck, and most likely you would need to pay for a re alignment for your car and possibly some damage to the brake rotors since they were on the ground. on top of all that, you have to face the trauma of coming back to your car to find that you are helpless because your wheels got stolen. chances are that if your wheels got stolen, then you probably also have a broken window and stuff stolen from the car. The tires and wheels alone are MORE expensive than buying 4 of these wheel locks, but then you add everything else in and its a no brainer, it is way way cheaper to buy the wheel locks and save yourself massive headaches and money in the long run.
@@orion7741 For this money I can get 2 years of insurance that includes 0 excess for thefts like these. Probably It pays off to buy cheap wheel guards and 4 RIMGUARD stickers.
Wow after watching them destroy the body of that lug nut cover a few weeks ago I was certainly surprised to see LPL take that much time to pick the core. I guess that’s where the $450 price tag comes from. Too bad the cover wasn’t more resilient.
thats always something i find so funny about these videos, most of the times the lock/core is easily picked despite what they claim, but the ones that are ACTUALLY pick resistant usually have a weaker link somewhere else, i really feel like in this specific case, if someone was dead set on stealing your rims (and just having a lock didint deter) that they would sooner pry it open than pick it
Well if i remember right they did not put that lock on real nice wheels ither. On real nice rims trying to rip that sucker off might do more damage to the wheels finish meaning a thief would probably just move on to a different target
@@nanaki-seto Exactly, but probably after they've done the damage.
a slightly scratched wheel is better than no wheel. even if you have to get a new one you also get the satisfaction that at least the other guy didnt get it. regardless it of course sucks either way but better than nothing.
another good thing about these is with them on it doesnt look like a guy changing a tire it looks pretty obviously they are stealing it. which can protect the car in some areas
@@nanaki-seto well, if were talking about a thief that didn't care which wheels he got, as long as he got some, they would see the lock and walk on to the next. We're talking about a determined, premeditated theft, they arent just going to settle for 40-dollar OEM rims on the Prius next door, They want your Super valuable forged aftermarket wheels, and nothing gonna stop them, unless it's something that can Actually physically stop them. They could probably wrap their Pry bar in rags, and sneak some painter's tape behind the wheel lock, then Go Ham on it.
It would take them an extra few minutes, but in the middle of the night, that likely won't matter too much unless you've taken Other measures to protect yourself from Theft. Camera's, Smart Doorbells, etc. Locks only protect you from lazy thieves and honest people, which Should be enough for most situations, but if you fear theft strongly enough, Locks aren't a Reliable Last line of defense.
I love how everyone colabs with LPL, he's just so great.
Rimgard: "Our lock really can't be picked"
LPL: "Finally! A worthy opponent"
And since LPL just picked it once I think this is a fluke 😂
It said high pick resistance, not pick proof. This still lasted about 3 minutes against an experienced lock picker, so I would say that is more than good enough. The issue is prying it off in just over a minute
*fluke
@@doctorwhouse3881 Thanks! corrected!
With that description from the manufacturer, LPL has to put it on a wheel in a badly lit garage to show it's not a fluke.
pin decoding is never a fluke.
its still a hard lock to pick, so a beginner in a shitty position with bad lights = 1 hour per wheel to pick them.
1:18 I like to think that LPL just knows all of his video numbers and their subjects without having to look it up.
Seriously though, he must have a master spreadsheet outlining each video number paired with the locks used, tools used, and other pertinant tags about what was covered.
Or he just searched for it
Do you actually know any (good) lawyers? This is how a good one rolls. If they don't have an eidetic memory, they have an awesome filing system with assistants that know it very well.
"oh yes, 1457."
I picture a wall of VHS tapes labeled on a shelf somewhere in LPLs place.
LPL almost sounded fatigued when he finally got this open. That’ll be next. Lock makers will just make locks that physically tire the thief out.
If you can’t beat ‘em, drain em 😤
@@maxfingal most thieves leave if they can't get a lock open in under a minute. 3 minutes per wheel, that's over 12 minutes, thats if a professional is trying to pick them. I would trust this lock, considering someone can just steal your catalytic converter in about a minute with the right tools
@@philtheboi358 given that they can pop it off with a pry bar in a minute, someone looking to steal would probably go with that.
Though in most cases they would go to the next car.
@@satibel if your rims are expensive enough you want a lock for them, anyone except the dumbest of dumbasses is gonna want to minimize damage when stealing them.
@@satibel No they won't, they'd be damaging the rim they want to resell, as was done in Donut Media's video. Their rim was also flat and thus very easy to get under with a pry bar.
Every time I think that 'yeah this lock is new to him, I have never seen him picking it" he comes with very old videos where he already picked it. like is there actually any lock that he hasn’t picked it. what a professional
I love Donut Media. This is fabulous that they connected with you for this challenge. Thumbs up as always
I bought this lock after my rims were stolen. I thought it was secure and this gives me some reasurance. Maybe not the fact that at Donut they were able to remove it in 65 second, but seeing how long it took to pick definitely helps
Iirc in the video by donut they said that it was partially to do with how these locks sat on the wheels, they weren't fully flush on the wheels they had it on.
@@buringfyra Yes, they did mention that.
Even funny if your rims got stolen when you parked your car outside the shop as you went to buy the lock.
@@kenneth6102 Not really, they stole all of the rims on my brand new 2022 accord within 2 weeks of me getting the car. Insurance picked up the car, as soon as I got it I started parking on a private garage and put those locks on.
They haven't stolen them yet, but they have scrached my car a whole lot. Oh well, that's what you get for trying to have nice things in the Bronx.
Well, the good news is that because the prying attack apparently damages the rims, it’s actually pretty secure. There’s no point in prying off the lock to get the rims if you’re going to destroy the rims in the process. Cause if you damage the rims, all you really get is scrap metal. And of course, your lock doesn’t need to be completely impenetrable. It’s like escaping a hungry bear. You don’t have to outrun the bear. You just have to run faster than the guy next to you.
I like to imagine a whole bunch of locks running around mating and crossing rivers and just being wild when he says "this lock in the wild"
Can locks mate without keys? I mean, I’m sure they can have some fun, but…
@@chriswilson5617 lmao
Shoutout LPL for always being willing to be loads of creators final check for "pick resistance" or even "unlockable"
Your contribution to already great content is far and wide, and I'm all here for it.
I've been waiting for this video from LPL since the moment Donut posted the original. I'm happy to see it. Amazing work as always.
I know it's only July, but I'm already looking forward to the next April Fools video. Watching LPL gain entry to his wife's backdoor is a classic!
Opening: Hi, I'm the LPL. Hi, I am Adam Savage. and Hi, we're the SloMoGuys ... We're here to show you ....
I liked the one where he showed off his wifes beaver.
He really filled that Beaver up!
I haven't watched every LPL video, but this is the first time in a while I've heard such focus and concentration in his voice
I've been waiting for this episode! Two of my favorite channels collaborating, awesome!
Thanks for respecting my time by having your videos fairly short or not unnecessarily long.
I had posted in a Donut Media post in the video about this lock how: "I couldn't wait for LPL to pick this -shitty- lock in literally seconds"
Picked it in 160 seconds, while explaining/commenting, and you are the greatest that ever did it *every* time. But, I far underestimated that lock! =/
I thought it was some half-assed wafer lock, but I see now I was greatly mistaken.
Great work as always tho' LPL!
There are many different types locks, wafer lock coating $450 for a car is almost just a complete joke.
What a shame they used a great lock core with a crappy design!
Ya the desmo is an actual lock...
I love this channel, at 33 I still pick my way into my parent's house because I trained on their locks at the ripe age of 12 with homemade picks. Those picks still live in my wallet and even though I'm no expert, I am never frustrated when I accidentally lock myself out of my house without my keys. These are all very useful skills to possess and learn them early because you'll be practicing for your entire life. I have cracked multiple safes as well for fun, anything mechanical like this intrigues me and is always victim to its own tolerances and manipulation. Keep up the great videos brother!
Now i‘m thinking about gifting my son a genesis set when he gets a bit older 😂
@@MattiasHorn that is a good idea!
I have a lock picking set, and it is a lot of fun.
Your understanding how lock mechanisms work is Pretty dam Awesome. Love it. So nice to see someone understanding the theory and putting into practice.👍
2 of my favorite, yet completely unrelated channels. This is awesome.
So awesome watching this come around full circle. Always a good day when two of my favorite channels come together to fully test a product.
Here here
Now we just need LPL and Bosnian Bill to shoot armor piercing rounds at it ^_^
Collabs from my favorite channels warm my heart 🥰
Saw the video from Donut when they released it and been waiting for this one ever since. This lock hold up so much better than I was ever expecting.
Yes, yes. Was waiting for this. Great video!
I recently picked up a covert companion set and have been playing around with a master lock I had sitting around. You make it look so easy in your videos but I struggle to open even this simple lock.(which I did manage to rake open once) It makes me appreciate your skill even more.
Wow! I’m impressed with that core. I think that’s the longest I’ve seen you take to defeat a lock
Been waiting for this. 2 of my favourite channels combining. Surprised it was so difficult to open. Better material and might be worth buying
Lovely. At least you show your almost fails and even admits. I like when people I put above me fails or almost fails. I get to learn so much more and keep pushing on
I have these on my 2021 accord sport. Only thing that keeps people from stealing my sport wheels. I know you can pry them off, but generally if you make things just a little bit more difficult people will skip you.
OK, wait, why would you spend this much money to put anti-wheel theft on an accord of all cars? Plus, with how easy they pry off you almost certainly would get better protection with the conventional keyed lug nuts that are available for 1/50th of the cost.
LMAOOO NOT AN ACCORD IM SORRY 🤣🤣🤣
@@zrobotics what do you drive and will you give it to me?
4 of those locks are probably worth more than the car lol
Everyone's laughing cause they don't know that the accord sport wheels are sought after, but I got you OP
It is to mention that the prying attack did damage the wheel, if I remember that correctly.
Making it an unacceptable way to get it off if the goal is to steal the wheel.
@@michaelpettersson4919 For a certain grade of thief. Another grade just wants to get the $15 at the aluminum recycling place to get their next fix.
@@Elkadetodd And that type most certainly wouldn't bother with these and would just move to the next car.
Sure. Almost any lock will make the thief pick an easier target if one is available. Point is, some don't care about damage.
@@Elkadetodd Those are the worst. A friend got rather annoyed when someone smashed a side window in his car in order to steal a dirt cheap stereo. In some places it is so bad that people leave their cars unlocked to avoid damage when thieves loot them.
Awesome. Two of my favorite channels.
Hell yeah! Love both these channels. Love seeing a cross over! Awesome supporting each other!
One of the most impressive locks I've ever seen on this channel.
It’s nice that you can hear that bit of triumph in LPLs voice when he gets a trickier one open. The indication of a true enthusiast
Always a pleasure to watch a true expert at something.
Cool video Harold. One of your best so far.
Well done! That's directed to Donut for their entertaining video, to you, LPL, for picking this lock, and to Rimguard for making a quality product. Kudos all around.
well the core is good but in the Donut video they literally pried it off the wheel in like a minute. so while im honestly not sure about the qualitative state of the product, i am absolutely certain its not worth 450$ lol
Always a good start to the day when LPL uploads 😇
Always enjoy watching you work.
I have watched about 40 of your vids and this is the longest I have ever seen it take. Most impressive.
Very cool. Nice to see you working on a higher security lock now and then.
expecting some vaults some time soon
Found your channel from the donut media channel. Haven't regretted watching you
Love the videos
Check out his april fools day videos.
They are absolutely hilarious.
Been waiting for this video. Good work LPL and donut media.
Well done appreciate you both including Donut and LPL
I imagine it's like putting expanded metal or other armor over a catalytic converter - it's not impossible to defeat it, it's just more difficult which causes thieves to pick easier targets.
5 minutes is a good length for pick resistance with this lock.
but if using brute force only takes 65 seconds it's like putting the best lock on a door that you can just walk around..
To be fair, he started picking around 1:50, and opened it around 4:30, so a little less than 3 minutes (although he admits in the wild it may have taken him a few more minutes because he would have tried to turn it clockwise rather than counter clockwise). Still decent tho
@@desperado568 He started @ 1:47 ended @ 4:27 But yeah, less than three minutes
and have to do it 4 times!
@@jondonnelly4831 If you have 2 grand to drop on wheel locks, you might want to consider moving to an area with less criminal activity.
You "both" were very impressive... A key reason I watch these videos and why I decided to give this one a tumble. Cheers!
It amazes me that all we see is a pair of hands but deep in that core we have some serious maneuvering going on perfectly narrated by Mr. LPL. Awesome videos man 👍🏽
The crossover we never expected but knew we wanted
When Donut and LPL combine all I can hope for is some crossover merch.
No
@@cicada3312 k
A shirt with both logos.
"Not trying to pry into your personal preference, but which one would you pick"
I'm imagining a race track with little pointers on the corners, "Nothing on one.. Little bit of binding on two.." and two cars trading paint.
Pop-up up and down lockpicks!
I love the elaborate intros and then see the length of the video.
Cross over episode I didn’t know I wanted but absolutely needed 👏🏻
I love seeing crossovers on UA-cam. Between donut, how ridiculous, demo ranch, and now LPL. I feel life is complete 😆
You'd have to do that 5 times in the wild: Once clockwise to find out you have it wrong, then once for each wheel. If it took him a few minutes you know even a skilled lockpicker is dedicating an hour to picking all of these and to actually remove the wheels. Furthermore Prying it off would damage them. In short they essentially make the theft of your wheels something to not be concerned about.
Chances are all 4 would be keyed alike, so with each it would take less time. The positioning of the sliders is something you could memorize and apply as you go. Still a damn good lock, but do you have to spend $450 for each wheel? That's $1800!
@@KF1 Nah they'd all need different keys, different biting, 100% because you'd be buying them individually it would be silly if 1 key opened all locks by that brand.
I don't know the answer to the next part. Machinery, probably.
@@MintRobin Naw should be single key. Separate for each is inconvenient and cumbersome amount of keys from a user perspective. I hate having ton of keys on the keychain like an old janitor
@@KF1 how many times do you take off your wheels?
@@bigtitmaster I guess whenever it's time to change winter tires. And then back again in the spring, plus tire rotation. * Also have to be able to at any time in case of a flat etc, or when you change your brake pads, or anything that requires the wheels come off, which is more often than you might think from a maintenance perspective. You gotta produce now a handful more keys to give your mechanic every time you go there just in case he needs to take them off
When paying $1800 for a set of locks, no way it's 4 keys. 1 key that's tits.
Love the fact that y’all worked with each other on this lock cause I love donut media and your channel
I’ve been looking forward to this collab!!!
Since it took you longer than five seconds to unlock, it must be a really good lock.
Not only would it be harder near the ground on a wheel, but you also have to do it 4 times! I would trust these things.
Of you watch the video, they were removed in like 15 seconds with a pry bar
You don't HAVE to take all four.
@@r4nd7r04d5 Then again, would it be worth damaging the rims if it meant you can take the locks off?
@@r4nd7r04d5 65sec with a pry bar.
And damaged the wheels in the process.
That wheel lock is a winner. Even LPL needed about 5 minutes and he knew the direction of rotation. More importantly, LPL was not picking four of these while kneeling on the side of a cold, dark street, followed by removing 20x lug nuts, jacking the car up on bricks, and loading up the stolen rims into his truck.
YES! Been waiting for this video! Imma thumbs it before I even start to play it.
This man straight up showing us how to pick museum locks and slot machines
I just can't get over the letter Donut sent you that's absolutely hilarious 🤣
I like how honest his videos are, you just know this was his first try and he didnt try a bunch of times and filmed the fastest pick
I love it when all sorts of youtubers can collab like this :)
The day we all have been waiting has come, a lock that LPL struggled to open !
Ah yes, it's Summer.
That time of year to get outside, and do some "Picking out in the Wild" 🤗 🌲🔐🌲
2 of my favorite channels! Nice!
What a fun collaboration . Thanks to all
5 min video from the LPL picking it?! That’s an amazing lock!!
LPL: "It's giving me a little trouble..."
Everyone: "*BUY TWENTY OF THOSE LOCKS RIGHT NOW*"
Problem, those cores are probably $200 a piece. That's why the final product is so expensive. Chump change for a slot machine, but not to you and I.
Greatest collab we didn't think we'd need.
Love that you did this!