Virtual tour photography with a 360 camera: DSLR vs Insta360 One X | Is it good enough? | Gaba_VR
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
- Can we really use a consumer 360 camera for virtual tour photography, or should we pick up a DSLR instead? Check out my comparison and my tricks how to shoot virtual tours with a 360 camera, like Insta360 One X. And for further 360 contents and tutorials, subscribe to my channel: ua-cam.com/users/gabavr?sub_co...
As 360 cameras became more and more popular, a lot of people found the potential of creating virtual tours easily. But can we really use them for professional virtual tours? And if we do so, how can we get the best result?
In this video I show you the differences in quality and workflow, and of course, I give you some tips and tricks, how you can get the best result out of a consumer 360 camera, and I attempt to approach the quality of a DSLR photo.
0:00 Introduction
0:58 360 camera basics
1:42 The advantages of 360 cameras
2:35 Aspects to consider in choosing camera
3:42 Differences in shooting methods (360 vs DSLR)
5:16 Differences in image quality (360 vs DSLR)
5:27 How to get the best out of a consumer 360 camera
8:20 The budget (best value for money)
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Really loved this great comparison between the DSLR and 360 cameras... Works to steer you in the right direction if you're undecided between DSLR vs 360 route. Many thanks!
Man so much passion in this video ! Thank you so much for this content ! Cant wait to see more content about 360.
Thank you 🙌
This video was exceedingly helpful. I'm using a Canon 5D Mk IV, 12mm fisheye, and a pano head for my higher end jobs, but most realtors don't want to pay for that level of quality, so most of my tours are done with an Insta360 OneX. Your tips on how to squeeze the maximum quality out of this consumer level 360 cam were amazingly helpful. Thank you for posting. [I smashed the subscribe button.]
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Your channel is the best! Thanks for your work!
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📷 Consumer 360 cameras VS DSLRs in virtual tour photography :
✅ quality comparison
✅ differences in workflow
✅ tips and tricks to get the most out of a small 360 cam
Check it out before buying your first virtual tour camera! 😉
0:58 - 360 camera basics
1:42 - The advantages of 360 cameras
2:35 - Aspects to consider in choosing camera
3:42 - Differences in shooting methods (360 vs DSLR)
5:16 - Differences in image quality (360 vs DSLR)
5:27 - How to get the best out of a consumer 360 camera
8:20 - The budget (best value for money)
You are amazing, so well explained. Very helpful tips. Thanks
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You are greate my friend !
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Köszönöm a videót, nagyon sokat segített a probléma megértésében. Jómagam is insta360 one x-et használok. A Ricoh Theta z1-gyel készített képeknek jobb minősége?
Useful👌👌👌
Thank you! 🙂
very nicely explained, very detailed video with lot of work. keep it up
Thank you! 🙏
@@GabaVR could you pls tell me should i go for insta360 one x2 for my real state and interior pics. i just want the wide angle view without fish eye so im planning to crop half globe image and correct perspective in photoshop. do u think its worth the investment, what would you suggest in same budget. Thanks :)
Well, I’m afraid it would be a little bit lower resolution than needed. (But it depends on your projects)
Insta360 cameras are more usable for videos than photos so if photography is your priority i could still recommend MiSphere or Ricoh Theta cameras
Have you done a complete workflow on how to shoot a 360 Pano from start to finish, including editing each DSLR image and how you stitch them, like PTGui perhaps? I would like to learn this for those times I want the better quality pano's. Thx
Actually, these episodes are being released recently. The first episode about shooting and basic retouching is already on my channel, and the next episode is coming up on Tuesday! 😉
ua-cam.com/video/1ke6CZIqhZ0/v-deo.html
Great comparison! Although I would’ve liked to see more on the dslr setup. Also what software do you use to stitch the dslr images which should also be included in the overall price.
Thanks. 🙂
Yes, this time I tried to focus on shooting, and playing around with 360 photos to bring them closer to a DSLR look. In post-production you need Photoshop in both cases, so it's also an additional fee.
For stitching I still use Kolor Autopano, which is hard to be priced now, as you cannot buy it. But I will make a tutorial about stitching, because it's an interesting method for those who have never seen such things. 😀
can you sugest best lens for sony for Virtual tour..
Thank you for sharing. What is your opinion of the Qoocam 8k for 360 stills? I am not into 360 video yet.
Well, I think Theta Z1 is still a little bit better camera, although in different aspects Qoocam seems to be the second best choice for 360 photo cameras.
Great video! I found the same issue with RAW in One X! What about HDR? It is seems to be a solution for me. Please make a tutorial about color correction of Insta One X real estate photos! Thanks man!!! I was waiting for One X & DSLR comparison for a long time, and here it is!!!! Best!
Thank you! 🙌
HDR option seems to be interesting, and I will check it out. I use and really love it in 360 videos. After figuring out all the downsides and issues, recently I shoot most of the daylight outdoor scenes with HDR video setting with One X.
But using my other cameras I didn't have good experiences with HDR photos, so I that's why always do bracketing instead. But I will check it out with One X! 🙂
thanks a lot! This is super helpful and informative, I have been researching about this for a while and your videos are really comprehensive! I just bought a INSTA 360 one R a month ago, looking to kickstart my career for this, but apparently, the resolution is not high enough, I actually have a Fujifilm XE3 mirrorless camera, would that work as well? Thanks
Actually, mirrorless cameras are even better for virtual tour photography than the traditional DSLR-s. First, shooting virtual tours, you will take a lot of exposures with your camera. On the other hand, in certain cases cropped sensor cameras are better for this purpose.
Make sure you pick up a proper lens, and I think it will be fine.
If I'm right, this Fujifilm camera has an APS-C sensor, so an 8mm lens will be good for you.
Gaba_VR thank you so much!!! I will have a look the 8mm lens!
Good computation thanks, what do you use to stich from the 360 camera ? could you do it in lightroom ?
I stitch the 360 photos with the stitching software of the camera. Depending in the camera, it can be the Insta360 Studio, Theta or MiSphere app. And then I blend the equirectangular images together if needed (you know, when I shoot with a 90 degrees turn to avoid the soft area around the stitch lines)
Depends on the job, the clients expectations and end user. If the client just wants to photograph say property then especially here in the UK, most agents photograph with a phone or cheap compact camera, just take a look at any estate agents website, badly framed, poor quality etc. Then a half decent 360 consumer camera will suffice, but if say a corporation, museum or retail shop etc., then DSLR all the way, the end user expects to see high quality images as the images will be looked at and scrutinized for some time.
I agree. That's why I tried to highlight some techniques to improve the quality of consumer cameras, because with a little extra work we 🙂can improve the image quality even if we shoot with a consumer 360 camera. You know, just to maximize the potential of our tools.
By the way nice video but the only problem is matterport don't support DSLR or mirrorless camera at this moment so they only support 360 cameras. And the other truth is a lot of companies they want something with just fine don't need to be the most sharp image.
You rock!!! I love your channel. You make beautiful tutorials. I have an Insta One X and an Insta Pro 1 and my nightmare is always the noise. I tried to shoot in M mode, in raw, in Jpeg.... but the noise is always there. Is there a trick to remove it? Or need I to move to dslr world?
Thank you! 😊
Yes, I also struggle with noise in these images. The only solution I found is working in Camera raw or Lightroom to reduce noise - but unfortunately sometimes it affects the details, too. So there's a fine line where it's really usable. The best solution I found for real estate and virtual tour photography is using a DSLR. And for creative photography or 360 videography I keep on using 360 cameras.
I have not used it yet but besides using LR, I hear Topaz Labs makes one of the best Denoise software programs that 360 images/video can be cleaned up with.
I use a 360 camera to create professional virtual tours , haven’t used dslr, but I know for sure the work flow would be enormously huge with dslr, and than the pricing would be high for my customers for the tours , but I would like to upgrade dslr, . I use the Ricoh theta z1. , also u should mention the HRD features of 360 camera they are great for indoor where lighting can be tricky, nice video , I follow u on Instagram
If you have a little practice, post-production is not so complicated. I will also make a video about it, because if you shoot properly, stitching is really fast. 🙂
Gaba_VR yes I do have a stitching software , I meant sometimes I need to take 400 pics a Week so taking those pic and post production could be time consuming and off course those pic would have high memory so the tour could time to upload can you please post a video showing how to set up dslr for taking 360 pics thank you
Sure. You can see some basics even in this video. The most important part of it is setting up the nodal point perfectly, so a stitching software like Kolopr Autopano or PTGui can stitch them almost totally automatically, without having to fix stitching issues. You just make sure that you horizon line is correct, and set up the middle point of your panorama, and you can render it.
Of course, due to the big file sizes, it takes a little bit more time to upload, depending on your internet speed... but after all it's not so much longer as expected first :)
Hi, Gaba very nice tutorials. It is possible to help me whit some questions ….. which is the best lens for my Nikon Z 6 to take 360 virtual tours Samyang 12mm f/2.8 or Irix 11mm f/4 or TTArtisan 11mm f/2.8 ....?I have a multi-angle pano head Rolley and Nodal Ninja 6 and the software PtGui.
Hi,
I have good experience with Samyang, so I would prefere that one instead of TTArtisan 11mm f/2.8. Irix is in a little bit higher price range, so it depends on your pocket. But I think the Samyang 12mm is great choice to start 360 photography business. But keep in mind, that it's a full manual lens, so you have to take care of setting up aperture and focus manually each and every time it's needed. So if you don't feel familiar with it, maybe it's worth buying Irix. It doesn't matter it's an f/4 lens, because in practice you wouldn't shoot with f/2.8 anyway 🙂
@@GabaVR Thank you .... the TTArtisan 11mm is a Z mount.... the Samyang Is an F mount when you mount in Nikon Z with the mount adapter you louse a little it is not 12mm it is about 13mm - 13.5 mm and the Irix 11mm f/4 (Z mount) is not fisheye so maybe it needs more photos, not 6 maybe 18 photos. Your opinion on this because you are a veteran on 360 photography what is the best lens to buy now, I want to give the best quality Samyang 12 mm f2.8 and Irix 11mm f/4 it is the same prices only one is fisheye (Samyang) and the anther is not (Irix).
Well, in your case i would choose the Samyang lens. Unfortunately I don't know the varieries of all of these lenses, but I'm sure that Samyang is available with any mounts, so you won't need further adapters to your Nikon body.
Thank you Gaba thank you very much
What's the name of that tripod mount? do you have a link to buy it?
Do you mean the pano head, i use?
It’s a european product called Sharp Vision.
www.sharpvision.cz/en/
Great video! Just you missed lens cost in DSLR for cost calculation!
Thanks, but I it' in the summary around 8:49 😉
Any tips or settings to get better quality tours with the insta 360 one x?
Using matterport 3D
I want to ask you about lenses. What lenses do you use? Manual or af? Thanks
I use a Samyang 8mm, which is a full manual lens.
But as you can see in the next episode of my mini-series about panorama photography, I use it with f11 or higher aperture, so basically, focusing is not an issue.
With fisheye lenses, almost everything will be in focus even at f3,8, but during virtual tour photography you don't really have to worry about focusing. During shooting I set the distance somewhere between 1,5 meters and infinity.
I always keep ISO at 100, so practically the only parameter I play around with is the shutter speed, depending on the light conditions.
with 10mm lens, I can't stitch the top and bottom photos. help
What shooting method and gear do you use? It's recommended to shoot with 8mm on croped and 12mm on full frame, but you should get nice resuls even with a different setup, depending on the sitchnig method.
I hope you will find these tutorials useful about shotting and editing 360 photos with a DSLR:
ua-cam.com/video/1ke6CZIqhZ0/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/uPyBv8QGYiI/v-deo.html
And if you have any questines feel free to write me. I hope I can help you! :)
Of course, DSLR you can get mega higa pixels pano, but there is always stitching errors if you shoot moving waves of the ocean
Yes, another score to the 360s. 🙂
easy to fix with photoshop - www.usedom360.de/panoramen/zempin/stadt/?startscene=8&startactions=lookat(-75.01,9.97,87.21,0,0);
Wow! This video must have been a lot of work! DSLR is better quality but takes more time in post production... So I'll get a Insta One X to save time and hassle. Thank you for the information
Hi from Slovenia 👍. If am I right are we almost neighbours 😆.
I'm shooting vr360 photos around from 2008 I think.
For serious projetcts I shot with dslr and fisheye lens, tripod, panohead....
Few years back I bought Xiaomi miijia 360, and this year Gppro Max. These cams are very friendly for family traveling in quick shots, you can't wear all of equipment on vacations with family.
For videos are these cams also cool and also for timelapses 360. Gopro has good quality of photo and video but lack of some other functinality. Xiaomi has good app and functions and raw photos. but still not so quality as dslr. But for quick and cheap projects are xiaomi and gopro good cameras.
I do vr360 also with drone. from 70m, 100m high is as one nodal point and rotate him, and gimbal up, down. with 25 photos I get panoramas belov the drone, as with one lens on Max. For clear sky I go on the wide fields and shoot with gopro max and then stiched with drone photo in photoshop manualy. (last photo on my FB)
and this is test vr tour over our fields and river Mura
www.bencak.com/temp/Pomurje_test/index.html
sky is streched from line of horizont pixels on those photos. but in simple way cut sky from other photos made from dslr or vr cams and you get perfect air panos.
Nice greetings from Murska Sobota (Mura Szombat 😀)
Yes, it seems like you’re just next door 😀
Aerial photography is really cool, and it’s a really great idea how you can edit them in Photoshop. 👏👏
Even more I love the idea of this aerial virtual tour. It could be a kind of “Street View” for pilots. 🙂But it would be very interesting even for me, too, to fly through a path in the air in 360 like this. Great idea 🙌
@@GabaVR Gaba_VR Thanks. Yes, its great, but papirology, laws, registering drone, every fly coordinates send to CAA and so on....for flying over cities and villages you need more, the driving licence for drone by CAA.
I have 3 batteries and in 'one shot' i make 6 panos with them.
And unfortantly then you must go home to charge. 2 hour and more charge per batt ... I'll make air vr tour around and along the river with hot spots to the ground to touristics points and then back to the air... this is huge project, huge about time you spend for shooting and traveling to the spots you get in the air with drone. when I had 10 batteries would be much more faster... 😀 👍
Oh I see, but it sounds like an interesting and really cool project 💪🏼🙂
I can’t wait to see the final tour! 😎
In conclusion, the problem is to compare the low effort required by a 360 camera vs a better photo quality of DSLRs? In your opinion it is better to create a virtual tour faster or with a better quality?
Absolutely, it's time and effort VS speed...
But I think there can be a third option. I tested a camera (but haven't published the full review video about it yet) called Trisio Lite 2.
I made a video about it, how we can create a creative photo effect with it: ua-cam.com/video/9M2cgzujTys/v-deo.html
The point is that I found that camera very cool for virtual tour photography. It combines the speed and ease of use of compact cameras with the basic idea of shooting with a rotating camera, and in terms of quality it's really close to the DSLR, and it shoots in-camera HDR.
So if you are thinking about a handy solution, maybe Trisio can be a great tool. It can do nothing but 360 virtual tour photography (no video, no handheld photos, etc..., only great photos specially for virtual tours).
@@GabaVR In your opinion the Trisio Lite 2 is better than other premium or medium 360 cameras in the market and it is comparable with 360 photos taken by DSLR cameras? Obviously it is very easy to use?
@@89canale I think it’s way better than other consumer 360 cameras, but of course, not as good as a dslr. But it’s really close.
And it’s really fast and easy to use. It’s totally automatic and only takes less than a minute to take a pano. So I usually recommend it to real estate agents who has no knowledge in using cameras.
@@GabaVR In your opinion is it possible for a beginner to learn how to shot correctly 360 photos with DSLR? Is it easy? I have a Reflex Canon but I am a beginner.
@@89canale It depends on you. If you understand the basics of photography, it won’t be difficult. I have another tutorial about how to shoot with a DSLR.
Check it out
ua-cam.com/video/1ke6CZIqhZ0/v-deo.html
Budget is budget, if a customer is prepared to pay, my Lumix G9 comes out, if not the one shot will do
Now we're in a lucky situation, that have multiple setups for different customer demands or budgets. But they also should be aware these differences. Maybe I should make a tutorial for the costumers, too. 😀
@@GabaVR I'm in, i'll play the customer, lets do it when the pandemic is over, will work for palinka
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I think 360 photos, they don't need to zoom so much.