Broken Mac Classic? - Just add water
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- Опубліковано 14 сер 2013
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5:19 don't you mean thanks for washing
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But he washed it
I remember the end of my grade 7 year my school got rid of every single mac and made the move to pc, this was back in about 1999. there was one of those big trash bin's FULL of all kind's of mac's all the way back to the Apple II, I crammed my locker full of as much as I could and took every mouse and ram stick I could get. I managed to save a whole Apple II, an Apple III both with all the bell's and whistles plus a butt load of games and a whole Mac classic (My homeroom computer) I remember the classic best it had Eliza Bot on it and I thought that was super cool. The rest went to the dump as far as I know, Unfortunately my efforts where only a delay as my father threw almost all of it away when I was 15 however I do still have the monitor for the Apple II and the bag of ram and stuff.
A heroic effort nonetheless. At least you tried. :-)
aggg I hate it when people throw out old tech
kowyn2 hi here in the philippines old tech would be a crt monitor a windows xp shitty specs and we still do use it here(there are some newer pcs but it is for freshmen and we seniors must scrap every computer and make it work) i remember finding a part and saw a strange motherboard and showed it to my teachern, he said it is called (duterboard????) legend says old motherboards contains gold pins in the cpu socket so did i find it and theres none maybe someone already did get the gold pins in it
kowyn2 That's pretty cool, but a bit sad at the same time.
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Mac classics usually break because the finder gets thirsty. Adding water really helps
I think the "juice" from the power is enough to hydrate it.
+Robloxs Xtremeguy the juice from the wall usually is enough but sometimes (mostly after not being plugged in for a long time) the finder needs a little help
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The 909s are still very expensive. One very handy feature that my reel to reel doesn't have is the ability play both sides/directions without having to flip the reel, but I think the Akai GX-625 is one of the best looking machines made.
:P "Afterall most of my clothes where made before then" lol
A 10.5" reel to reel is something I wanted for a while. The only pace I saw them growing up was on TV, where they could often be seen in the background in a villains penthouse in 1970s cop shows, Six Million Dollar Man etc..To me its a piece of art. I found the best place to source good machines from is Germany via eBay, they seemed to be more popular there than here in the UK and they tend to look after them. Same voltage too and no import duty. The German name to search for is tonbandmaschine
I have washed many a circuit board with soapy water. Just rinse well and help the drying with some 97% alcohol ( helps absorb water from under surface mount chips ). Many of these Macs were in dusty offices full of chain smokers. You would be surprised how much tar and dust they will gather especially when you have the high voltage of that picture tube acting as an electrostatic magnet. Once the board is caked with tar and dirt it is also a moisture magnet at this point. A little bit of moisture on the board and you get stray voltages and shorts driving the electronics crazy.
You ever wonder why smoking is prohibited on an airplane? Its not directly for your health but your well being is protected since this tar and dust is not infiltrating earlier avionics and causing all kinds of issues with their ability to work properly.
thats interesting, thanks for sharing.
Really cool, thanks
Subgunman completely agree with you, soapy water worked extremely well with TV circuit boards as well
Huh. So apparently, tobacco smoke isn't any better for electronics than it is for people. Who knew smoking could kill electronics? Yet another reason not to smoke.
You probably should tell people to not just let their electronics boards dry like normal, you want to treat them with alcohol or distilled water to remove any remaining minerals deposited by the soap and normal water.
After a soapy wash/soak I usually rinse anything electrical or electronic with a shower head to blast off any suds. I then stand the piece up somewhere with good airflow and a little warmth for several days to let the moisture evaporate naturally.
Some people place washed parts next to a radiator or use a hair dryer on them but I find that that 'forced evaporation' can leave behind a residue or fine sticky film on the part. Air drying over a few days always seems to leave things looking fresher without an oily soap residue.
@Michael Persico learn more about rust and corrosion
@Michael Persico Do you even know what distilled water is? How can the drying process be any longer after rinsing soap off?
@Michael Persico If the bowl still had some soap on it then yes, you would give it another rinse before drying it. Same concept here.
*+Michael Persico* bhai wikipedia.org/wiki/bhai could i get some of whatever it is that you are smoking please¿
here in Bharat wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhārat_Gaṇarājya where potable water isn't always available (subsoil water pumped up, municpal lines not available or contaminated along the way)
it is standard procedure (at-least for germophobic or folks like me with hygiene compulsive disorders of sorts) to wash friuts and veggies with filteted water after rinse and washes with normal water. filtered as in filter + UV + at times reverse osmosis.
and **that** is practically a daily ritual and still doesn't make it sound as disastrous as you make the PCB cleaning sound.
well in your case.. i suppise tge quickest and best (if costs not be considered) way would be to directly dip it in some sort of a spirit blend or PCB cleaning liquid.
so as to have it dried in a jiffy🙄
I tried this method 3 years ago and I can testify that its does indeed work! I have a working classic 2 now.
4:53 That Helper Icon is pure NOSTALGIA
I found a mac classic at the dump in full functionality with literally no damage. As well as a apple ii with diskette drive and monitor, but some few broken keys.
ryryfrifri why would people throw it out.. :(
Colton Kennedy i know right? I have so much cool stuff from recycling centers.
cause its trash
ryryfrifri my brother found a ps2 in a recycling trailer, he swapped the disk reader and now it works like a charm
BOPPE lol i bought a broken ps2 for $5, and it works after a dusting + disc motor & reader cleaning
I washed my old mac book air mother board in water 3 years ago after a spill and it still works.
Apple told me the machine would never work again even though it was working when i sent it
in when it came back it had no serial number but i fixed that to with Blank board serialiser
I suspect apple erased the serial number on purpose but now it works just as good as it
ever did.
Jordan Johnson LOL
dumb bitch
why would apple erase the serial number
I poured a glass of water in it and it broke. I added water like you said
+VormiZe it only works if it's already broken...so now it is, you just need to pour in another glass of water and you're sorted.
HAHA!
+Techmoan I think its already shorted ;)
+Techmoan Alright, threw it in a pool. Should work better! :)
+VormiZe have you tried turning the water off and on again?
Water do not kill electronic stuff. What kills it is just electricity itself. Since water is conductive, it make the electricity go eveywhere, even where it should not go. But the same thing would happen if you poured iron dust on the circuit (that could be even worse). But since everything is powered off when put in water, there is no need to worry about that. It's just like touching an electric socket when you don't have electricity anymore. Normally this would be very dangerous, but without electricity, it won't do anything to you.
I've cleaned many retro computer parts and I've never seen one of them fail due to that. Some of the stuff I manage to have is sometimes very dirty (dust or whatever ... sometimes they even stink a little bit), but I'd rather save a very rare computer from the landfill and cleaning it than leaving it here because it would have been too dirty.
Thanks ^^
Deksor is you mean the bullet doesn't kill people but its energy kill people and the bullet from the gun that also doesn't kill but people kill people?But way a minute,how can they shooting if they weren't been born?
What ?
Exactly! :-) actually it is chemical energy from gunpowder (transferred to bullet) that kills.
Pyroslav x hahaha,you know that i just joked right?but do you know what is the energy really is?serious.
Don't hot plug ADB!! There's a small risk of frying the port, and the drivers aren't designed for it so you often get strange behavior.
definitely don’t hot swap the ADB connector(s), as this can fry it .. and in the cheaper macs of the day they only had one port .. you fry that, you are hooped, tho never tried to replace a fried port / the higher-end hardware had two ports / but excellent to see something so simple can be so effective / this issue is one of the main reasons they moved away from ADB to USB .. but a good tip here is that S-Video cords have the same pins and can work for devices that have removable cords (lots are fixed to the device) / cheers from a 27yr apple tech
Yes, Retrobrite...I tried using it once without much success. If the Mac holds up, I may try it again sometime.
Why did this video just blow up now? It was made in 2013...
And he sounds like Ringo Starr
It was all my fault. I created a naughty comment which attracted all the trolls suffering from hatred abstinence from youtube. And because it is against my norm to erase a comment (even if such comments are mistakes) I keep feeding the trolls. All because I want the world to see all my flaws and accept them. Also don't wash PCBs, even though they are going to work for a while, the corrosion will slowly destroy them.
I got it in my recommended
too much water
because of *THE A L G O R I T H M*
apples need water to be fresh
Don't let Apple know you've repaired one of their products - they'll disable it from working.
+Terry Clark Exactly, you should have let a certified Apple Employee wash it in soapy water!
+Terry Clark Where I work we repair Apple products all day. Don't let Apple know.
Henrik Nilsen I hope you feel suitably guilty. If it weren't for you Apple could fiddle their taxes on slightly more profits than they currently do.
Does that actually happen?
Google or UA-cam "Louis Rossmann"
They're actually referencing him.
Yes it's a shame but you are right there is very little use that a Classic can be put to that makes any sense nowadays, it will be interesting to play with, but its not like a classic car or bike that can still perform a useful function.
I would NOT run that Mac without the case, as the CRT can give you a pretty nasty shock if you touch it.
+/home/yoshifan Only if you specifically reach for CRT contacts, not that hard to avoid it.
Daniël's Tech & Music Channel True, but the risk is still there. Call me a wuss all you want, I don't like the feel of that much voltage surging through me.
+/home/yoshifan Understandable.
+/home/yoshifan Actually, much more like a very quick way to end up in a coffin than a nasty shock.
+Daniël's Tech & Music Channel Unless one of the reasons it's not working is that the fly-back cable is loose, in which case you could get zapped with thousands of volts at high frequency if you get within a few inches of the contact. if you happen to be holding the metal of the case at the same time, you will get the shock of your life, and it you happen to grab the case and the loose cable together... well then you will not be able to let go of either and you'll quite literally fry... If you survive, you will definately have learned your lesson.
It's a simple rule to unplug before you uncover, and cover before you plug in. It is a bit of extra work and it is *MUCH* less painful than getting an elextrical shock, no matter how small you think the chances are.
i remember using these in school. cool computers, very capable
I only remember Windows XP as a distant memory. I'm pretty young so it kind of sucks that I don't get to work around such historical pieces of tech. However it is obsolete and computers are much better these days.
Same but now I know most components like DDR Ram, Hard Drive, Solid State Drive.
Sarcasm?
We learned to type on Apple 2s. Lol! I guess I am old now. Hahaha!
Invincible Extremes Muscle Cars Garage windows xp was the first OS I used I still remember the startup jingle
I tried the isopropyl first without any result...the water bath was my last-ditch final attempt. I wasn't anticipating a positive outcome, but thought it was worth filming it just in case.
Way back in the 1990's I found one of these in the street, tossed out with the trash. I took it home and discovered a disk had lodged itself in the floppy drive and it prevented the machine from booting. Removed the disk and it hummed beautifully. I gave it away to someone who could use it. Since then I have always lusted after a Color Classic. Thanks for the memories.
1:34 a canon fan wow
I've had a few things with Canon fans and Canon fans will last a long time.
Careful turning CRTs around like that, you don't wanna accidentally poke the tube and get on the wrong side of a few tens of thousands of volts, same case for making sure it's discharged when opening too :p
I'm well aware of that, I play with extremely dangerous voltages and things that are more than capable of killing you a great many times over, and occasionally with the added bonus of cooking you from the inside out, fairly often. Static shocks are often in the order of many thousands of volts, but with very little current available.
CRTs are more than capable of storing enough energy to make you do more than just jump out of the chair. Please don't attempt to discredit a perfectly valid concern for his, or anyone's who reads this, safety. The same for this as a tip.
Yea, it can also vary between a little pop and a jolt and a potentially lethal discharge so definitely not recommended :p
I took 70kV from a partially charged voltage multiplier once...that was kinda satisfying too despite not being able to feel my arm for quite some time and suddenly appearing on the floor with a flash hehheh.
The weirdest was from a plasma speaker, though. Feeling Dream Theater...literally. Low current but it felt fucking weiiirrrddd
Repair tech here and yup... flyback transformers are not to be messed with until you're absolutely sure the circuit's discharged. :)
Never mucked around with a point-source speaker before though. I've got a schematic/plans for a plasma tweeter in an old AudioXpress magazine somewhere... can't remember what the required voltage was to generate the corona discharge but I remember thinking "hmmm, that sounds fairly serious". Tiny current of course, the article recommended to enclose the electrode - with a ball-type steel mesh tea strainer of all things! - although that was mainly there as a faraday cage to contain the ridiculous amount of RF/EMI generated by the plasma field.
Ignition coils should be treated with respect too... Jacobs Ladder anyone? :D
Hehe, I've got a few plasma speakers in bits ranging from small to dual flyback ones pushing 500watts...the arc is entirely impractical for audio, though.
You don't want a massive power arc out of it hehe. Last one was pushingaround 40-50kV open circuit at only a few mA or so and was rather good. They're surprisingly loud and the audio quality can be incredibly high with a well designed one. There's no real mass to push as with a speaker(cone), I guess.
I'm guessing the magazine one was probably a 555 circuit driving it? They're simple to build, fun to play with and can be entirely safe. It's pretty fun to experiment with stuff like that, you've just gotta be careful.
There's a resonant transformer stack in the shed that throws out huge power arcs with at least a couple amps going through 'em. You do not wanna go anywhere near that thing, if I let it, it'll pull over 80amps from the mains (at 240vish....variac). Makes for some fun :p
Yeah, I wanted to build a stereo pair for ages since they are about as close as you'll get to a "theoretically perfect" point source. But then I'd have to build low/mid cabs to go with the tweeters, cobble it all together... and I'm pretty happy with my existing rig; circa 1980's UK-built audiolab pre/power driving Italian-made Sonus Faber Concerto Grand Piano's, all acquired for free in non-functional states and repaired by me. Benefits of being in the trade. ;)
The AX design was driven by discrete transistors I think, it was a pretty basic circuit. Not 100% sure though, it's been years since I last read the article. I can dig it up if you're interested.
Got a channel mate? I checked your G+ and saw mentions of HV and your comments above perk my interest. Andy (photonicinduction) has been pretty quiet of late and I'm always on the lookout for new and interesting stuff to watch. Cheers from Australia!
Thanks for the tip - I'll certainly have a look at it.
Spent many happy hours playing Risk with my friends on one of these back in the mid-nineties. Thanks for bringing back some happy memories!
That model was my first computer. Fantastic little computer, miles simpler that Windows 3.1 or 95.
I was nervous the whole time you had it turned on without the back on. Those CRTs are deadly!
Exactly what I was thinking.
CRTs might have thens of thousands of volts but its rarely lethal unless you start dicking with 21" or the Sony / SGI 24" (I had one, 100kV flyback!).
Remember: When working on CRTs, put your left hand in your pocket (so a belt doesn't go across your chest and stop your heart - it only takes 150mA) and only use non-conductive tools. Think before you act and you should be good.
I build valve amps, they have three HT voltages:
9 pins is 250v = "Ooh!"
2A3 / 300B is 400v = Sit down with cup of tea and get nerves back together.
211 / 845 is 1,300v = Someone phones your widow as "Your first mistake is your last."
Non-LED flat panel monitors have between 900v and 5kV going through the electro flourescent layer but again its maybe 10mA, no very unlikely to hurt you.
Here endeth the sermon.
That's exactly why I like it too, plus it's also completely impractical...which is something that I appreciate.
I have a Mac Classic II as well and when I got it I had the same issue. I washed the logic board much as you did and its been working perfectly for over 6 years!
I'd recommend rinsing off the soap residue and hard water deposits with distilled water.
You should watch wash it in distilled water as with normal water and minerals will start to rust your motherboard
faizan joyia good idea
faizan joyia that would get expensive real fast if you use good distilled water
Lol what planet are from where lab grade distilled water is expensive?
Joseph its pretty hard to get distilled water on venus
faizan joyia not realy, go warehous ware thy got many forktruck most of time thy got device to make distilled water.
at my job we got same device for our fortrucks and super easy to get 100L of it
I've got plans to cover some retro tech soon, so will include this in a video.
You'd best have a look to see what the typical C64 faults are...mine Might have been caused by capacitor electrolyte leakage, but yours could be something completely different.
Old stuff will always work better it seems
They don't make things like they used to.
not only working better but they were more durable as well. for example nokia 3310. nothing can break that thing lol
+Fatih Yıldız The BMW E30. The Nokia 3310 of cars.
Dat Person Doe.
lol
Fatih Yıldız that or an old jeep cherokee with the 4.0 I-6.
great job but u should be carefull when plugin it in while the back side is open. Since that crt monitor works with high voltage it could really harm you just by touching it somewhere by accident.
lowendmac.com/2007/the-truth-about-crts-and-shock-danger/
Hi, I just watched your Mac Classic 2 video. I was servicing the original Macs when they came out. I remember being one of the first shops to actually put in a fans ( Yes they were air cooled ) and increasing the memory from 128k to 256k. What I really was impressed was putting actual hard drives in them BEFORE Apple was. I bet that Steve Jobs was not happy about that. I remember it used a weird sort of claw type of connector that actually had little feet that grabbed onto the cpu and had a ribbon cable coming out. The first time I did install one I was scared that I would break one or more legs on the cpu. It worked though, I can't say for how long but I don't remember any of them coming back. I do remember that we needed two special tools to open the Mac. The first was a 12" Torx screwdriver and the second was what was called "a Mac cracker". Those were only sold to authorised Apple dealers. The Torx screwdrivers were something of an oddity at that time since as I understand it, the Torx were designed for computer aided assembly. Their vision systems could make them out easier than anything else on the market. I think both of these necessary tools were an early form of "security sealing" the computer so that all but the most industrious of hacker could open the Mac. Just curiously , where did you get your Mac Cracker or did you use something else?
I used unusual maintenance techniques on my original IBM PC back in the 1980s. At the time I chain-smoked and my ashtray sat on the desk next to the cooling air intake. The fan in the power supply sucked the smoke in, passed it throughout the cabinet and the power supply, then exhausted it out of the back of the power supply at the other end of the cabinet.
I also had two big furry dogs who filled the house with dust and doggie dander which also made its way into the intake, through the cabinet and out the back.
After some time I began to experience erratic performance issues (I later realized that components in the cabinet were overheating). I don't recall what led me to try it, but the fix was easy. I removed the cover, took the chassis out into the driveway, cranked up my leaf blower and blasted the motherboard and other internals with hurricane force winds. The debris cloud was always stunning and enhanced my reputation as the weird dude at the end of the block, but it worked every time. Sometimes low-tech is the solution.
Adding water an electrics has it's conditions, A few dumb people who don't understand the principal or don't think will laugh and say pouring water on their laptop made it break, sure; Getting a laptop or computer or anything wet simply isn't the whole story, damage occurs if the device is also powered up at the same time it is submersed or drenched in water because the water conducts electricity to places it isn't meant to go, which is what causes the damage. Providing electronics are removed from any power source and allowed to dry properly before use, water damage is not possible.
We have had a few Macbooks in that has been spilled things like water, milk and strawberry jam on them, and the customer has tried to turn it on while it's wet. I've put the motherboard in the ultrasonic cleaner, and quite often that was all that was needed to fix it. Even if it's turned on at the point of the water damage doesn't mean that all hope is out.
Actually, water does NOT conduct electricity, it is the impurities in it (salts from minerals). If you use distilled water you can power it up and run it all day and night without a worry.
+idiolore correct
BilisNegra There are still a few safe cleaning methods depending on the liquid though, but that's only useful if it didn't actually get fried. :p
Great video! I would have expected the board to rust, or short out, even when dried out. I wonder if this will work with motherboards on other older computers?
it seems to work with other computers if their is absolutely no power being applied to the board. there is a video of a guy washing a motherboard with a dish washer and it survivng somewhere on youtube
I first used one of these in High School in 1993!
The next year our school got a room of 486 PCs but the Mac lab was still better because we could play Bolo!
This is amazing! I just purchased a Mac Classic on eBay that works and has the original box and everything! So excited to be able to play with it
IOS 10 Is ready for your macintosh II
0:30 i thought the video froze
same here
A 10.5" reel like the ones in the video containing 2400ft of tape will give you just 65 mins (each side) at 7.5 IPS (inches per seconds). You can double those times using 3 3/4 IPS, but it doesn't sound as good (more hiss etc).
It's still working at the moment. I suppose I should replace the capacitors in time - but it's not needed right now.
Electronics Engineer here. Don't use water to wash boards, it is not very effective at removing the electrolytic fluid or flux left on the board. Also the water will cause the components to rust in time. Ideally, use 99% Isopropyl alcohol with a static-free brush or a toothbrush if you are in a pinch. With these old computers, if something doesn't work the following steps will fix most problems:
1. Inspect the board for bad electrolytic capacitors. Do this BEFORE cleaning the board. If you see leaky fluid around them or they look like they are bulging from the top, then they have gone bust and need to be replaced.
2. Take out all socketed chips and plug them back in, this will fix many problems.
3. Clean off old flux or electrolytic fluid if a capacitor has popped using 99% alcohol (don't use the lower-grade rubbing alcohol from the pharmacy; you can buy some at Amazon). Again, only do this after inspecting the board or you might make it more difficult to diagnose when repairing.
+openSUSE5 -- Not an engineer, but I have to agree since I've been tinkering around with electronics since 1968 when I was 10. Washing a motherboard in soapy water reminds me of the advice I've heard from time-to-time about sticking frozen hard drives in a freezer to revive them. Water condensation upon thawing will doom your efforts, and I know because I tried it on hard drives that I'd long given up on. And I've seen people advise putting motherboards in an oven at 180-200° to revive them!!! I think I'd REALLY be seriously concerned about leaking capacitors then!!!
+openSUSE5 Repair department of major electronics company, we use Safewash, a foaming substance, then wash off with warm water then finally Saferinse, which diplaces the water and prevents mineral deposits. Dry using a combination of hair dryers and compressed air to make sure there's nothing in the sockets or under the chips. It works a treat, some of the stuff we get back is in a right state.
most apple products are fixed when put in water the right way...
i see what you did there
Hahahaha Classic.
I don't get it lol
Thank you so much, i hate so many doubts when i was just playing with the ROM chips but the water method helped!
I noticed when you were showing the board dry there was a slightly darker matte area spread out around the 2 groups of 4 caps in the top left, which could be the leaked fluid from the caps. Nice that washing the board brings it back to life.
Am I crazy or is that a fan with the Canon logo on it at 1:36?
POLYMETRIC you're right, maybe a dvd or something?
Techmoan, can you leave a link or make a video on how to make the machine in your intro? Thanks!
+Hannah Brown When I re-do the intro in 4K, I'll explain the process in a video.
+Techmoan thank you so much!
Awesome I was going to ask the same thing. Thankyou.
apple tech geek never
ever?
Thanks for inspiring me to buy, wash and recap an old mac classic, works like new! Hopefully now worth a little more than I bought it for.
I'm avoiding the scary bits, trust me. No discharge though, makes things more exciting, like defusing a bomb.
can it play bf4 at 60fps???
At 5:07, reminds me of that one time I tried to drown a fish.
I like the idea "drowning fish in water" ;). TOP KICKS
Cool fix buddy love to see old and/or broken things renevated! Top job!
Worked like a charm for my Mac Classic II, thanks so much!!
will this fix water damage?
Water damage, as in a spill onto a product, then it breaks? No. If water and electricity mix, electricity jumps to places it shouldn't and components break.
what if we wait for the water to dry before using the device again?
then you should be fine. what happens with water is that it has conductive material in it (unless its distilled) when that is bridged if turned on a component say that puts out 12v sends electricity to something that say only accepts 3 volts then you can fry it, if the component is completely and utterly dried off then the conductive material is gone (generally after its dry take a dry rag and give it a wipe). its why you would see people soaking phones in rice if they dropped their phone in the water.
thanks but ı have one more question. what if there is some charged capacitors on the circuit board?
Fatih Yıldız
well then you are probably screwed since its like taking a peice of wire and touching the contacts to each other. you can try to revive it after it dries, but i would doubt it would work since the idea behind not turning it on is having no electricity so that it doesnt short out anything
I was born in 24, Feb, 1992 :D
Feb 24 1993 here
No one cares. :)
+HowToWinGames except you, apparently.
HowToWinGames I love you too :)
are you still working?
The OS is just a new install of System 7.0.1 with a couple of simple apps.
You can clean contacts on IC's chips and Ram modules by using a standard pencil eraser gum (the white ones) to rub off any grime etc. You would not believe how shiny the gold connectors on ram chips look after cleaning them. Then clean the contacts further with some alcohol (cannot recall the exact best type of alchohol). I cleaned lots of computer gear in my life.
The Chia pets of computers
Instructions unclear; now my Macbook Pro w/Touchbar won't turn on
Do I need to download some more RAM? Or install some Internets?
pls halp!
blue Try rubbing some peanut butter on the screen, that should fix it right up!
lol
you need to change the oil and also inflate the steering wheel, that should get the flaps up to 90 degrees
H.i.l.l.a.r.y.ous
Oh tech comedy, had me pissing myself, and my missus confused.
And this was also a well put together video, good audio, good video, decent editing, and good commentary.
a lot of people who make these kind of videos are socially dysfunctional and just breath into the Mic with no editing.
Nice work/Keep up the good work.
The HDD arrived before I decided to wash it....I did try it to see if i could hear it booting up, but the corrupted screen indicates that the machine had a hardware fault....it wasnt bootable.
My friend's dad had one of those - expensive and nowhere near as much software for it compared to PC and Windows 3.1 was just more my thing to use. I never really "got" Apple - the hardware was fine, but the ideology behind them was always silly and completely incompatible with what I wanted to get out of them.
Eh, that was the late 80's/early-mid 90's Apple, Macs built during that time weren't so great. They're better now by miles.
Ben Blanchette They're not better now.
The Mac was there WAY before Windows! And Apple only copied the Xerox Star.
Marcus Schulz Mac now is *closely related* to Linux and Linux was made way after windows in 1991. The os you're talking about actually was done both by Microsoft and apple. Funny thing is that Microsoft did most of the work in the os and you're giving apple the credit.
MultiDeivas if you're going down the route of OSX (Darwin) being based on Linux (which it is) then we have to remember that Linux is based on Unix, which precedes all of these OS given it was started in 1969. Both Bill Gates and Steve Jobs would have been about 14 years old :-)
sound like James May voice lol
I just came here from top gear...
NIce, were you right on the set??
really interesting video! I have a bunch of these old macs, a colour classic, a mac plus and a couple of SE's. My first home computer was a mac classic in 1992 that my mum bought second hand from her school. I was 7 or 8. had it up until highschool :D
Fun fact about most electronics with no moving parts (so just a circuit board, no motors, lenses, etc); it's usually fine to completely submerge them in water as long as 1. they're completely off and discharged of any electricity, 2. the water is very clean and pure and doesn't have anything floating in it and 3. you let it dry COMPLETELY before turning it on. Although obviously it's only for extreme circumstances and is generally not recommended due to possible issues with corrosion, etc.
no becouse water will leave minerals and such that will corrode all the solder joints
A Lind
Well that's why I made it a point to say very clean and pure water, not just the stuff out of your tap. But yeah if there's a lot of minerals and other impurities in the water, it'll eventually cause a problem.
Have probably been mentioned before, but you sound like James May.
Tobias Karlsson he doesn't even sound remotely similar.
he does tho
Werwolf Spoofs not even a teeny bit. Techmoan has a midland almost northern voice whereas James May is more BBC English sort of. Totally different.
Yes, I tend to agree with Landie Man, reminds me of late nights listening to John Peel, sadly missed.
Do not wash electronics in water. Use at least 90% isopropyl alcohol to clean electronics. It cleans well, evaporates fast, and does not leave behind minerals found in water that can cause corrosion in the future.
Jarrod Smith disagree with you there....in TV service, we would literally wash of boards with soapy water and the boards would come out like new ..... provided that they are completely dry and then touch them up with some acetone based solvent IF needed.....they worked better than alcohol, some of the electrolyte would not wash off with just alcohol.
Distilled water wash, forced air drying for a good long while, then a quick spray of isopropanol or similar solvent in and around connectors and into dense forests of caps to drive out any residual moisture and help it evaporate.
Or you can just chuck it in the dishwasher if you don't care about it too much. :)
well if you let it fully dry then turn it on
I love the tape recorder, looks cool and retro
Yep. This worked brilliantly. I did not take out the ROM chips but it still fixed it.
I hope you bought some new clothes
Cannerbernerd Cannerbernerd lol
Cannerbernerd Why? I don't get the joke
Newer tech after 1990 is a bag of shite and breaks a lot
I'd say late 90's.
I wouldn't say that. I have a PC from 2003 that my brother used every single day until 2012. Almost 9 years of gaming, studying, watching movies, internet and other stuff and the thing still works like new. Pentium 4 1.8GHz, 1GB of RAM and a crappy 64bit GeForce FX5200 128MB on an ASUS motherboard. There was and will always have cheap tech that breaks a lot.
retrogamer33 just like your grammar
Who cares.......Damn grammar police
Anthony Flores How, bar the period.
I've heard of the whole 'washing circuit boards' thing before. Heard a story from my Dad who knew some radio amateurs, and a friend inherited a Yaesu transceiver of some form that was owned by a guy that passed away. Apparently, the late owner complained of various intermittent faults with the radio that he never got around to resolving - oh, and he also had a nasty smoking habit.
Anyway, the new owner strips it down and washes the boards in a soapy solution as you used on your Apple Mac. He let it dry off for something like a week, give the casing and everything a good clean and low and behold the radio worked perfectly.
If you get a cherished old motherboard that won't talk to a GPU anymore, take it out and wash it with sugar soap. The rinse it thoroughly, leave to dry on a radiator for a few days and put switch cleaner on the sockets, it'll be good as new.
Vintage electronics often use paxolin boards which absorb water. You''ll find random voltages popping up all over the place and again, let it dry out for a few days on a radiator or in front of a fan and all should be good. I get this with old valve gear.
Great video!
This computer was obsolete in 1992. "Glad" to see apple started to sell outdated components as soon as the early 90s...before you bash on me i'm not an apple hater. i think OS X is the best operative system ever...but it can't be denied that apple products (except maybe for the iphone) are incredibly outdated. Look at the 2015 mackbook pros...for the price they have insanely ancient hardware.
+jippalippa OSX is based on Linux...Android is based on Linux.What makes that Windows?Crap!
+Computer Addic OSX is based on BSD, not Linux. BSD and Linux are both designed after Unix.
jasonteknut
And who designed Unix?The same guy who designed Linux.
+Computer Addic Not really true. Ken Thompson, Dennis Ritchie, Brian Kernighan, Douglas McIlroy, and Joe Ossanna at Bell Labs. Linux was mostly designed by Linus Torvalds
Naoki Saito
Maybe!The fact is that you cant tear them apart in the development of the first open software.Linus was there and all the others and then they parted and made there own OS.
They weren't from Microsoft..
When you say you visited Future if it was the Bath offices, I was there working on one of these back in the late 80s-early 90s. We had tones of these things!
Great thanks, best one yet.
This was my first work computer. I was an auditor with KPMG from 1989-1992 and this was state of the art in the late 80's.
Water only hurts electronics if they're powered up.
Fun fact they actually switched to washing circuit boards with a detergent and water during manufacturing after user of CFC based solvents was banned.
That's true, sometimes, the only thing that eletronic board needs is a full cleaning up! And for old electronics from this time (1990's), this is the first thing you must do before analyzing the board searching for broken or blown components.
Never thought water would be a solution with broken electronics.. Thanks and keep up the awesome work!
Once time I picked up a PowerMac 7200 from a house fire, dark with soot and rusty from water damaged. Took apart, tossed MB and case in tub with mild soap and tooth brush. Rinsed with de-ionized water and let dry. Other parts used damp cloth. Put it all back together, WORKED. Even the HDD!
Well, did not try floppy drive, likely was functionally impaired, and the HDD was very noisy so it was soon replaced. Still worked when I last used it years later.
I was a student at Glasgow Uni in 1992 and they had these in the computer science labs. Nice machines.
i loved my classic mac i wish still had one! nice to see this restored
I just did this with a Mac Classic II I found in a dumpster. Worked perfectly. I reseated the ram and rom chips (didn’t make a difference), then took them out again and washed the board. 👍
Vectrex! I'm envious! I lost mine on my move to college many decades ago. I'd have kept it, despite and above all others.
Mil gracias! Ha funcionado en un mac classic 1 . Lo he sumergido 24h en agua con lavavajillas y después lo he limpiado con desengrasante de cocina dos veces y se ha quedado la placa muy limpia. Ha funcionado perfectamente!
I'm still it sure the caps were the issue, but if it fails again, I may take you up on that.
The battery I'm using in the video is a new one bought last week...just in case.
I've a feeling that this is the kind of video that could generate some oddball comments from nitpickers - regarding Apple, Anti-Static Straps, Capacitors etc etc - so to pre-empt any such comments please bear in mind that - It's not something worth getting concerned about, try and lighten up a bit and have some fun, you'll enjoy life more.
You're one of the best on UA-cam. Excellent videos always.
Pretty cool to see this work I was born in 2002 so I had never seen a mac like this but I did here's mentioning every once and a while
Works on other old electronics too. My Roland D-20 for some reason have been randomly rebooting or even worse, froze with an horrible continuous screeching noise at maximum level on the outputs, for years and years (Id' say since the late 90s). A couple of years ago I disassembled it, found its internal very dirty and brushed and washed everything inside with water. It works perfectly now (except for the floppy rubber band that broke recently, grrr).
Hmm that's something I've never heard of doing before - guess because the metals used are non-corrosive and not putting a current through it won't short it either.
Anyway, great you got something that was broken to work again, nicely explained too.
Might help someone out with that, cheers for doing so.
Have a good one Matt.