We all complain about the price of these vehicles but honestly building a vehicle like this isn’t cheap. The R&D, engineering, testing and manufacturing costs are probably astronomical. The Bronco is built for mud riding, rock crawling, and high speed desert running. But it’s also comfortable to be your daily driver and roomy enough to have baby seats in the back. And on top of that it must pass all safety regulations. In all honesty this probably not a very profitable vehicle for Ford which explains why GM, the accounting firm that makes cars, doesn’t bother to compete in this segment.
Andre, when you said 'regular people' I don't think that's who Ford has in mind as buyers for this thing. A quick look at pricing for one of these toys around where I live is anywhere from 95K to 120K. And I suspect they'll all have a 'dealer markup or adjustment' added to the window sticker on top of that. Other than that, that was an entertaining 15-minute infomercial.
I guess Ford doesn't have to pay for commercials since the invention of UA-cam and reporters like Andre. Makes their profit even bigger. Great fun for Andre though and I'm happy he got to experience that first hand
95k to 120k means you probably live in Ontario, Alberta or British Columbia! Those are Canadian Dollar amounts which is about right! The company F150 Lightning Platinum I will be driving this September was $117k at $1600 CDN per month for a lease AND comprehensive/replacement value insurance combined payment with a lease buyout of $15,000 CDN at the end of the term. Those are a tad EXPENSIVE ....BUT.... since the Government of Canada and BC government do have EV rebate programs plus business expenses-oriented tax writeoffs of about 17%, it means the total NET cost is now below $100,000 CDN which is fine with us! I get to drive a Platinum Edition EV for work and play and the company saves money on gas ($2.16 CDN per litre) which is equivalent about $6.16 USD per gallon in the Metro Vancouver area! The 9.6 KW on-board battery power is ALSO GREAT for worksite power generation use too! V
They'd probably do it at Nurburgring to find out which vehicle could turn in the slowest time lap time...and then somehow figure that was pertinent data for prospective buyers...
The guy saying answering questions about being a mall crawler. Nobody questions the capability of the Raptor vehicles, but capability vs how the buyers actually use them is why 80% of them will end up mall crawlers, same as a majority of jeep wranglers. like I see in the school drop off line, I guarantee the mom with immaculate hair and nails in the wrangler 4 door with no scratches is not an off roader, just a middle age woman living out her daisy duke midlife crisis fantasy.
@@KN-jw7ts I agree, they won't. I think that's more to my point however, why waste money on something everyone knows is merely compensation for some other aspect in you life? Buy something for whatever it is meant to do, not for what it could do. Taken out of a car context, let's say my house has a hedge, do I buy a simple hedge trimmer, or since that isn't "extreme", do I prune with a 24+" bar chainsaw? Clearly the guy who chooses the chainsaw in that instance has issues. Why do cars get a pass on common sense? If you Baja, buy the Raptor and enjoy, if you don't, then buy the non Raptor version.
@@jg8263That last sentence is why you are wrong. People buy any kind of stuff for amusement. Everybody is different. You cannot dictate how other people enjoy their life. You can only do it for your own. If people want to "waste their money" is theirs to waste, not yours.
@@KN-jw7tsTHIS. About the same percentage of people that take this on dirt tracks, rock trails and dunes. But nobody ever complains about that with a Porsche. If this same vehicle were made by anybody but Ford, there would be no complaints anywhere.
RUMOR MILL ALERT: Electric Bronco and Electric Ranger seen in Northern Michigan again in July 2023 --- TFL needs to start asking Ford what's up! My two automotive engineering sources have again bestowed upon me some juicy tidbits about BOTH a Ford Bronco with its back interior stripped out being seen again in July 2023 after being seen doing winter testing in November/December 2022 ....AND.... a Ford Ranger also being seen with NO engine noise and no exhaust pipes driving in and about Grand Marais, Alger County, Michigan, USA. This area is quite remote and borders Lake Superior and is very rural. It's the perfect place for rural rough-road testing where not too many people are around to see them in action! BOTH vehicles where seen at different times in July 2023 in the Grand Marias and nearby rural backroads areas! The Ford Bronco EV has been seen multiple times in Northern Michigan so I am assuming Ford made a Battery Pack test mule system that tests driving range on more compact truck platforms. The Ford Bronco might NOT be the final destination platform but rather be a test mule for a NEW TYPE of long-range battery pack since one of the engineers overheard a 400 mile (600+ km) driving range back in December 2022. If you strip out the back of the Bronco, it is an IDEAL vehicle to stuff a big floor-sitting battery pack into it that FITS what I think could go into a future all-EV Ford Explorer and Expedition! Since Ford has also already REGISTERED the Ford Maverick Lightning Trademark in Europe, the Ford Ranger all-EV test mule seen this July in Northern Michigan IS ALSO a likely test mule for compact truck battery pack testing. I am now QUITE SURE (i.e. with 65%+ certainty!) that we will be seeing an all-EV Ford Maverick and Ranger introduced by the 2026/2027 model years. Probably in Europe first and then over to North America by 2028/2029. l am also QUITE SURE NOW that the new benchmark for driving range is 400 miles (600+ km) for the upcoming Maverick Lightning EV and the likely upcoming Ford Ranger Lightning EV and probable Ford Explorer models. 400 Miles all-EV driving range is the magic number that most North Americans can meet for an ENTIRE 5 Day week of driving to and from work in urban and suburban environments since most people don't drive more than 40 miles (60+ km) each way. That means most people can just let the truck charge over the weekend to get it ready for the ENTIRE work week and still do their weekend grocery and soccer-mom/kids playtime runs! With Ford's recent announcement that MORE HYBRID platforms will be moving into production for the F150 and Superduty realms, I am thinking Ford is redirecting money into the MID-SIZE/COMPACT truck segment for all-EV vehicles. The F150 and Superduty are their bread-and-butter truck products but they need to REDUCE retail prices so making more fuel-efficient hybrid systems makes a lot of sense for that segment and the MID-SIZE/COMPACT Maverick, Ranger and Ford Explorer segment could start going ALL-EV sooner rather than later! What does TFL and you the VIEWER think? V
Broncos are sick . I’m not a big ford guy, considering reliability issues. However if I was a millionaire I’d prob lease or buy one. I will stick with the 4 runner for now but this would be on the end of my top 10 list for current model years.
Can you cite "reliability issues"? Having had 15+ Ford vehicles over 60 years, my experience has been they have no more reliability issues than any other manufacturer. I've owned Pontiac, Chevy, Dodge, Honda, Mitsubishi, Fiat, American Motors, Volvo, and Toyota vehicles - they've all had problems.
I’d like to know the percentage of people that can afford to buy one of these and ACTUALLY off road it. At all. The vast majority of vehicles like this are purely status symbols, although they are awesome. It’s like the 30 Wrangler Unlimited Rubicons that I see every time I go to town that are spotless and flawless, except for all the stupid aftermarket, add-on crap. For most people, It’s just a way to show how cool they and their money are. I’d drive it if I was given one. Drive it hard!
So, do you have statistics to prove all of your assertions or are you simply making it all up to fit your invented stereotype? You have no idea what most people do. I have a Bronco. My wife and I went for a three-hour off-road adventure this afternoon.
That was awesome to watch, can’t wait to see you do that in a Ford Ranger Raptor for comparison! BTW Andre how many pairs of underwear did u go through LOL!
$86K? Starts at $88K and that is before you actually walk into a dealership. That is just the teasing price. Real prices start closer to $91K and rocket up from there. The look on Andre's face was just as strained when he was driving as when Brad was. 😂 The question is not, can it do this stuff. The question is, what is going to be broken afterwards? The tops upon launch were rattle traps, imagine what they must be like after a little abuse like this.
The professional driver that I test drove a Grenadier with did double duty as a pro with Bronce. Both are very capable and about the same price, I wonder which one Andre would choose?
One could set a dinner table for four on those fender flares. Maybe I'll trade in my Cherry 1996 Ford Aerostar XLT....with Posi and the same size engine 3.0 for one. I don't know. The Aerostar sure is near and dear...
No one will most likely ever take their 90k bronco on a course or road like that not worrying about breaking something or scratching their sweet decal package.
Sure, if I was working at Ford, I would drive like I stole it. If it was my own, I won't push it to its limits. That's the problem with these 80k SUVs.
A “pro” attempts to keep all four wheels on the terrain at all times. Jumping a vehicle is the “flying elbow drop” of Hacksaw Jim Dougan in a 1989 WWF match.
Gee...thanks...we now know you're an expert...especially with the Jim Duggan reference...that made all the difference...next time spell his name correctly...
For the price you think Ford could replace the 4 garbage can fender flairs with something descent looking and install a heavier duty front differential and steering components. Also put a push rod V-8 in them.
Lol why do these manufacturers think we need to jump vehicles. Give us reliable 4x4 that will slow and low like a champ at a good price tag. Sick of the hp race and building ever car to be a race car
Because that’s what it’s made for, if you don’t want smth that can jump and crawl slow then you wouldn’t get this but you would get a regular bronco with the Sasquatch package!
@@dennissmith7214 agian reliable and affordable there are no manufacturers doing that it’s all lux options and look at how fast you can go or oh you can jump it even Toyota is way to lux and doesn’t give good options for the tough trails and the prices are just crazy
@@Jupiterider1 gx is great but still too lux for me just wish manufacturers would put more effort into utilitarian and not computers and screens and look at this thing jump but don’t jump it bc we won’t fix it if you do lol
Because its giving people OPTIONS, not all people want to slow crawl some people want a high speed off-roading that jumps that they can buy off the factory because it is fun, exhilarating and gives them the adrenaline rush that this types of buyers are craving . In todays day of age good price doesn't exist ,ask the dealers.
Why can't they refer to the Bronco as "THE" Bronco. Like, why do they keep saying stuff like "Oh well Bronco is really good at..." Are they trying to make the car seem sentient? Or is it more marketing gimmicks?
Loved it! Andre's face was priceless🤣
We all complain about the price of these vehicles but honestly building a vehicle like this isn’t cheap. The R&D, engineering, testing and manufacturing costs are probably astronomical. The Bronco is built for mud riding, rock crawling, and high speed desert running. But it’s also comfortable to be your daily driver and roomy enough to have baby seats in the back. And on top of that it must pass all safety regulations. In all honesty this probably not a very profitable vehicle for Ford which explains why GM, the accounting firm that makes cars, doesn’t bother to compete in this segment.
Yes. But a 2017 F150 Raptor started at $50k. Lots of people today would love that option.
Pfft. Ford makes $10k minimum on these. You having a pity party for Ford? No need.
@@dansherwood9851 how do you know that, do you work for Ford? Or did you read it on the internet?
@@dansherwood9851 They probably make more even after all expenses are factored in. Very high profit margin vehicle and it shows.
@@TheNotimprezedwhich had leaf springs, no surface preview, less travel, and a vastly inferior interior and refinement.
Andre, when you said 'regular people' I don't think that's who Ford has in mind as buyers for this thing. A quick look at pricing for one of these toys around where I live is anywhere from 95K to 120K. And I suspect they'll all have a 'dealer markup or adjustment' added to the window sticker on top of that. Other than that, that was an entertaining 15-minute infomercial.
The Bronco Raptor should be $70k tops. Mechanically not a lot of difference compared to the Ranger Raptor, which is $55k.
It’s out of reach for 99% of America.
I think all Ford trucks now are worth exactly what they are asking, minus 50%.
I guess Ford doesn't have to pay for commercials since the invention of UA-cam and reporters like Andre. Makes their profit even bigger. Great fun for Andre though and I'm happy he got to experience that first hand
95k to 120k means you probably live in Ontario, Alberta or British Columbia! Those are Canadian Dollar amounts which is about right! The company F150 Lightning Platinum I will be driving this September was $117k at $1600 CDN per month for a lease AND comprehensive/replacement value insurance combined payment with a lease buyout of $15,000 CDN at the end of the term. Those are a tad EXPENSIVE ....BUT.... since the Government of Canada and BC government do have EV rebate programs plus business expenses-oriented tax writeoffs of about 17%, it means the total NET cost is now below $100,000 CDN which is fine with us! I get to drive a Platinum Edition EV for work and play and the company saves money on gas ($2.16 CDN per litre) which is equivalent about $6.16 USD per gallon in the Metro Vancouver area!
The 9.6 KW on-board battery power is ALSO GREAT for worksite power generation use too!
V
Those are such killer machines!
Respects to Ford
I’ve been a TFL fan for a long time but I do have a question. Have you guys ever tested a base Bronco 2 door vs. an entry level Wrangler?
They'd probably do it at Nurburgring to find out which vehicle could turn in the slowest time lap time...and then somehow figure that was pertinent data for prospective buyers...
@@buckhorncortez I love when they compare glove compartment space!
The guy saying answering questions about being a mall crawler. Nobody questions the capability of the Raptor vehicles, but capability vs how the buyers actually use them is why 80% of them will end up mall crawlers, same as a majority of jeep wranglers. like I see in the school drop off line, I guarantee the mom with immaculate hair and nails in the wrangler 4 door with no scratches is not an off roader, just a middle age woman living out her daisy duke midlife crisis fantasy.
Omg, why are u ppl so obsessed w how other ppl use their vehicles??? Do most sports/super cars see a track? Same difference.
@@KN-jw7ts I agree, they won't. I think that's more to my point however, why waste money on something everyone knows is merely compensation for some other aspect in you life? Buy something for whatever it is meant to do, not for what it could do. Taken out of a car context, let's say my house has a hedge, do I buy a simple hedge trimmer, or since that isn't "extreme", do I prune with a 24+" bar chainsaw? Clearly the guy who chooses the chainsaw in that instance has issues. Why do cars get a pass on common sense? If you Baja, buy the Raptor and enjoy, if you don't, then buy the non Raptor version.
@@jg8263That last sentence is why you are wrong. People buy any kind of stuff for amusement. Everybody is different. You cannot dictate how other people enjoy their life. You can only do it for your own. If people want to "waste their money" is theirs to waste, not yours.
@@jg8263let people do what they want with what is theirs man... Why judging others ? are u stupid ?
@@KN-jw7tsTHIS. About the same percentage of people that take this on dirt tracks, rock trails and dunes. But nobody ever complains about that with a Porsche. If this same vehicle were made by anybody but Ford, there would be no complaints anywhere.
Ford did a really good job !!! 👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Those are such killer machines
RUMOR MILL ALERT: Electric Bronco and Electric Ranger seen in Northern Michigan again in July 2023 --- TFL needs to start asking Ford what's up! My two automotive engineering sources have again bestowed upon me some juicy tidbits about BOTH a Ford Bronco with its back interior stripped out being seen again in July 2023 after being seen doing winter testing in November/December 2022 ....AND.... a Ford Ranger also being seen with NO engine noise and no exhaust pipes driving in and about Grand Marais, Alger County, Michigan, USA. This area is quite remote and borders Lake Superior and is very rural. It's the perfect place for rural rough-road testing where not too many people are around to see them in action! BOTH vehicles where seen at different times in July 2023 in the Grand Marias and nearby rural backroads areas!
The Ford Bronco EV has been seen multiple times in Northern Michigan so I am assuming Ford made a Battery Pack test mule system that tests driving range on more compact truck platforms. The Ford Bronco might NOT be the final destination platform but rather be a test mule for a NEW TYPE of long-range battery pack since one of the engineers overheard a 400 mile (600+ km) driving range back in December 2022. If you strip out the back of the Bronco, it is an IDEAL vehicle to stuff a big floor-sitting battery pack into it that FITS what I think could go into a future all-EV Ford Explorer and Expedition!
Since Ford has also already REGISTERED the Ford Maverick Lightning Trademark in Europe, the Ford Ranger all-EV test mule seen this July in Northern Michigan IS ALSO a likely test mule for compact truck battery pack testing. I am now QUITE SURE (i.e. with 65%+ certainty!) that we will be seeing an all-EV Ford Maverick and Ranger introduced by the 2026/2027 model years. Probably in Europe first and then over to North America by 2028/2029.
l am also QUITE SURE NOW that the new benchmark for driving range is 400 miles (600+ km) for the upcoming Maverick Lightning EV and the likely upcoming Ford Ranger Lightning EV and probable Ford Explorer models. 400 Miles all-EV driving range is the magic number that most North Americans can meet for an ENTIRE 5 Day week of driving to and from work in urban and suburban environments since most people don't drive more than 40 miles (60+ km) each way. That means most people can just let the truck charge over the weekend to get it ready for the ENTIRE work week and still do their weekend grocery and soccer-mom/kids playtime runs!
With Ford's recent announcement that MORE HYBRID platforms will be moving into production for the F150 and Superduty realms, I am thinking Ford is redirecting money into the MID-SIZE/COMPACT truck segment for all-EV vehicles. The F150 and Superduty are their bread-and-butter truck products but they need to REDUCE retail prices so making more fuel-efficient hybrid systems makes a lot of sense for that segment and the MID-SIZE/COMPACT Maverick, Ranger and Ford Explorer segment could start going ALL-EV sooner rather than later!
What does TFL and you the VIEWER think?
V
That's how you do developmental engineering. You build something, take it out, and see what breaks.
Broncos are sick . I’m not a big ford guy, considering reliability issues. However if I was a millionaire I’d prob lease or buy one. I will stick with the 4 runner for now but this would be on the end of my top 10 list for current model years.
Can you cite "reliability issues"? Having had 15+ Ford vehicles over 60 years, my experience has been they have no more reliability issues than any other manufacturer. I've owned Pontiac, Chevy, Dodge, Honda, Mitsubishi, Fiat, American Motors, Volvo, and Toyota vehicles - they've all had problems.
PSA: Glad they mentioned two foot driving. Good off roading advice.
Awesome video, thanks guy’s!!
Good commercial to help Ford's sales. Ford doesn't have a Jeep, but they can create their own and call it a Bronco.
I’d like to see a standard and Sasquatch bronco try to do the same thing.
Hope the after market addresses those fender flares. Kinda lookslike the were borrowed from the trans am race cars of the late 60s.
Is this in summer? If so you guys are bananas for being out in the middle of the day..... I'm getting heat stress just thinking about it. lol
I’m work in it 🥵 I feel like I’ve lost some weight from sweating so much
But it shows the Bronco’s cooling system and A/C can handle the heat.
Andre @6:00min looks like as if he’s being tortured in a juice blender 😂
It does Hilariously! 😂 He looked like he was gonna lose his lunch 🤮😂
It is awesome.!🚙
Wish we could see the outside of this machine and under it. Focus on the machine. I don’t really care what’s happening in the cab.
I’d like to know the percentage of people that can afford to buy one of these and ACTUALLY off road it. At all. The vast majority of vehicles like this are purely status symbols, although they are awesome. It’s like the 30 Wrangler Unlimited Rubicons that I see every time I go to town that are spotless and flawless, except for all the stupid aftermarket, add-on crap. For most people, It’s just a way to show how cool they and their money are. I’d drive it if I was given one. Drive it hard!
So, do you have statistics to prove all of your assertions or are you simply making it all up to fit your invented stereotype? You have no idea what most people do. I have a Bronco. My wife and I went for a three-hour off-road adventure this afternoon.
Go say this about a GT3 RS too, then. Most people don’t take those to race tracks. Oh wait, that’s right, you just want to hate.
Andre what Chiropractor did you go to after this😂😂. I would love to do this in Vegas one day! Great video!
That was awesome to watch, can’t wait to see you do that in a Ford Ranger Raptor for comparison! BTW Andre how many pairs of underwear did u go through LOL!
$86K? Starts at $88K and that is before you actually walk into a dealership. That is just the teasing price. Real prices start closer to $91K and rocket up from there. The look on Andre's face was just as strained when he was driving as when Brad was. 😂 The question is not, can it do this stuff. The question is, what is going to be broken afterwards? The tops upon launch were rattle traps, imagine what they must be like after a little abuse like this.
Any time I'm asked to "imagine" I totally discount the comment as being realistic as you're into imagineering fantasy land...
Good job Andre, now drive like that when you test at the ranch, LOL
Looks like he needs to change his underwear after that run lo😂😂
My thoughts as well
The professional driver that I test drove a Grenadier with did double duty as a pro with Bronce. Both are very capable and about the same price, I wonder which one Andre would choose?
Now I know why that road is now destroyed.
One could set a dinner table for four on those fender flares. Maybe I'll trade in my Cherry 1996 Ford Aerostar XLT....with Posi and the same size engine 3.0 for one. I don't know. The Aerostar sure is near and dear...
That’s some good context, amazing how they’ve advanced output.
Only bronco i would buy
needs the toyota shock seats?
Andrei looked like he was going to toss his lunch.
No one will most likely ever take their 90k bronco on a course or road like that not worrying about breaking something or scratching their sweet decal package.
I look forward to going out and doing this in my stock TRD Prerunner and saving $86k.
Yeah good luck getting to half the speed or a quarter of the fun.
“99% of the drivers to test themselves”. 99% of the people with these are paying 75k plus to mall crawl.
You sound jealous.
I'll take my Mojave thank you very much.
Not a bad day at work for sure. Tag me in please. Lol
Could use more frontward facing video.
One should drive (or fly) this baby on the streets of San Francisco 😂
Honestly that engine looks awful. Like it's a real mess. Ford should had put some effort in a clean setup there.
Still number 3 on consumer reports most unreliable stellantis had more
Andres face in shotgun lmao
109 no thanks - cost and temps are huge turn offs for me. Glad andré was able to go play
I bet most people who buy these will use them as mall crawler
No way could a Bronco do King of the Hammers.
It swept the 4600 class podium the last two years.
Sure, if I was working at Ford, I would drive like I stole it. If it was my own, I won't push it to its limits. That's the problem with these 80k SUVs.
A “pro” attempts to keep all four wheels on the terrain at all times. Jumping a vehicle is the “flying elbow drop” of Hacksaw Jim Dougan in a 1989 WWF match.
Gee...thanks...we now know you're an expert...especially with the Jim Duggan reference...that made all the difference...next time spell his name correctly...
Jeep Wrangler laugh a Lot!
And if you break something Ford will deny your warranty claim & say you abused the vehicle 😂!
Ford is in denial
WooooooooooooooooooooooooooW
8:04 that don’t look right
It’s just a rubber boot for the shock It does look bound up though.
I would rather have this than the raptor R, but I would take the Wrangler 392 XR edition over both
This must be the handful of Braptors that Ford actually built.
Really? I see these things everywhere here in Puerto Rico.
@@OttofalconGot 2 in my neighborhood! 🤷🏽♂️
I see them pretty regularly here in Florida.
For the price you think Ford could replace the 4 garbage can fender flairs with something descent looking and install a heavier duty front differential and steering components. Also put a push rod V-8 in them.
Pushrod is inferior technology. Same torque density with way less horsepower and doesn’t sound as good. Plus no need for risers.
I love the new Bronco its just too expensive maybe if they made an EV option for a daily for me
I can't get past the ugly looks of the four door and those gaudy fender flares.
All I see is a lot of business for mat's off road recovery. 😅😅😅 😮
Pretty accurate
I'm confident a Subaru could've ran this entire course just fine
At what speed, though?
@@richfarfugnuven6308fairly quick until the head gasket fails
@@justinanderson181that doesn't happen...does it??
@@justinanderson181 don't forget about the CVT crapping as well...
2 mph.
The real negative of doing this to your 90-100K Raptor Bronco is after this it becomes an interior rattle trap.
I'm sure you won't have to worry about that...
Guys you don’t need helmets. 😂
What? How old are? Does mom know you’re on the internet?
Lol why do these manufacturers think we need to jump vehicles. Give us reliable 4x4 that will slow and low like a champ at a good price tag. Sick of the hp race and building ever car to be a race car
Because that’s what it’s made for, if you don’t want smth that can jump and crawl slow then you wouldn’t get this but you would get a regular bronco with the Sasquatch package!
@@dennissmith7214 agian reliable and affordable there are no manufacturers doing that it’s all lux options and look at how fast you can go or oh you can jump it even Toyota is way to lux and doesn’t give good options for the tough trails and the prices are just crazy
Agreed. I own a modded 2005 Lexus GX470 with almost 270k miles on it. It may be slow but it will take me anywhere reliably and comfortably.
@@Jupiterider1 gx is great but still too lux for me just wish manufacturers would put more effort into utilitarian and not computers and screens and look at this thing jump but don’t jump it bc we won’t fix it if you do lol
Because its giving people OPTIONS, not all people want to slow crawl some people want a high speed off-roading that jumps that they can buy off the factory because it is fun, exhilarating and gives them the adrenaline rush that this types of buyers are craving .
In todays day of age good price doesn't exist ,ask the dealers.
Why can't they refer to the Bronco as "THE" Bronco. Like, why do they keep saying stuff like "Oh well Bronco is really good at..." Are they trying to make the car seem sentient? Or is it more marketing gimmicks?
Huh, flying Bronco... Would you not call it now a Pegasus? Oh, wait... has to be all white... nevermind...
First
“Chops to call itself a Bronco”? So it breaks down a lot?
seems like Ford is going to crap
Lol. Righttttt. All of the ppl that have actually driven this thing saying it absolutely amazing is fake news I take it? 🤡