Consider subscribing, liking and sharing if you found this video useful... Another pretty important note here that I forgot to mention in the video... Part of this design is to stack function and have the 'waste heat' that escapes this propagation space help provide warmth for the garage/workspace. This way we can use the space more as it's more comfortable, and also store seedling flats, bare root plants, etc., near this box to help buffer them from more intense cold outside during this swing season...
Love the idea of stacked function but I would recommend a poly hoop over this with a vent flap that you can open periodically. That way you will lower the cost of heating the larger space at unnecessary times. I don't however know how that will affect the cuttings liking cooler tops.
@MAXIE 677 - I understand your idea here, but the challenge is that I don't want to have the tops be warmed up prematurely. Ideal scenario is 74F right at the location where we want root formation, and 33F above. Most root before shoot...
Thank you so much, for adding the temperature in centigrade too - that is so thoughtful of you and very helpful for all of us Europeans who are following your channel. Your channel is so edifying to me, I really feel I've found gold. Not only are you a calm and grounded person (non stressful to watch), you are also very thorough and kind. Character-traits that are somewhat of a rarity in today's world. So thank you, for sharing your life, passion and wanting to educate others to live a more beautiful and healthy existence too, not only for ourselves, but also for the environment and animals around us. This is great! :)
- 22 Celsius right now in Saskatchewan. Enjoying fussing with my cool season annuals in the grow room and thought I should jump out and grab some hardwood cuttings
This is fantastic! I like how you use what you have to make simple solutions that function well. Thanks for sharing! I have been looking for more information about propagation. I’m looking forward to your Q&A on propagation.
Hello, I was looking into how much water to add to the soil for cuttings and you answered it. Thanks! Also for root hormone replacement. Canadian Permaculture guy talks about blending up willow tips or branches in water and extracting the Indolebutyric acid to use to aid the roots. Might work better than honey water, not sure. Keep up the good work and thanks for the inspiration! I always appreciate the way you make these things seem so doable and approachable. It's very Pineappleish
Really happy to share what we're up to and what we're trying. Hope you have great success and fun crossover with the 'pineappleish' silly reference in this old video! Never had that happen before :)
thanks for sharing your propagation practice! i'm rooting some hardwood fruit cuttings in my unheated sunroom & have found it to be a lovely winter project :)
Thanks for another great video. I always been in awe of your talent with plants. The video you did last time on this subject really opened my eyes to this technique.
Nice! A fyi...I have elderberry and a cranberry I cut stems from. Cut up into 4-6" lengths. Put a paper towel in a baggie and or in a jar with lid unscrewed. They are in a cool area of house and are growing leaves. Definite no cost involved. Not my idea but saw on another homesteader channel. Working so far! Love what you are doing!
Thank you for an excellent explanation. I just started a gutting bin on a seedling heating mat set at 75 F. I currently have it upstairs to get some diffuse light. It’s August in San Francisco. I left a few leaves on the cuttings. My previous attempts at cuttings seem to fail I think because my media has been too wet and no bottom heat. How important is having cool air? How much does light matter if you have a few leaves or better to do this without leaves in minimal light? I’m curious how long your cutting generally take. I’m primarily interested in propagating maple, Japanese cherry and plum, Chinese quince, spruce and redwood trees. Be well, Mats H
I’m definitely not ready for this scale, but it is good to keep in mind for expanding our perennial landscapes. Any notes or recommendations for plants that are the best/most forgiving to learn this process?
Great information. I’ve been using solar panels along with 12 volt pump etc. and honey as a rooting stimulant for a few years now to propagate my blueberry plants and have experienced a good degree of success. Perhaps that would be something you can benefit from as a solar propagation system does require a small investment but it can be very useful and long lasting.
EdibleAcres Hey. The panels can be used in both manners once you include a battery to store energy. In the misting context you use little to no battery power - as you use pump that runs only during daytime. However the panel can provide energy during the day and provide stored battery power for bottom heat wires as needed ( day or night). I have used panels mainly in the misting context.
so is the idea that these cutting will be potted up and sold in the spring or do you plan to grow them a full season before selling? once these plants produce roots and are potted it up, transferred to the greenhouse will their roots continue to colonize soil until spring or will putting them the greenhouse encourage leaf growth? thanks for answering my questions so far and being so generous with your knowledge and time!
We try to get them to root in here in the late winter / early spring... Then we transplant out into rich garden soil to grow for a whole season, then dug up in the fall for falll bare root or follownig spring bare root sales... We avoid potting up and greenhouse production as they are more complex and fragile. Happy to answer!
You said the other night in your live that I needed 2 kinds of elderberry for them to thrive. Something to do with pollination. I have only ordered 3 cuttings of one kind. Will that work or do I need to order 3 of another kind? I truly look up to you for your knowledge as you've gained it with experience. We struggle hard right now but I wish we could order some grapes and other things from you. As it sits we ordered 3 cuttings for $10 and even that hurt lol. One breath at a time and it will get better.
I would avoid ordering more elderberry. Are there wild stands where you live? Other gardeners you can reach out to to help prune? Trades online? Volunteer with a farm to get plant material? Etc. Etc. Thats how we got a whole lot of our plant stock up and running.
@@edibleacres I haven't seen wild around here unfortunately I have definitely looked lol. The farms around me are all corn and grain but I will reach out online. I pray we can find some, thank you for the suggestions 😊.
Thanks for another informative video! I did have an unrelated question and I thought you may have a suggestion? I have a couple of acres that stays quite marshy/boggish as it sits low next to a creek. I'd really like to use it for an orchard or to be able to graze my animals. Any ideas of how to dry up or utilize that much space?
Good reminder. My friend Akiva at Twisted Tree used that in the past and I believe had good results. I would still definitely encourage the temperature control in one way or another to be safe and keep the temps in a good place.
I tried it once or twice and found that it somehow supported rotting in the cuttings more than I'd like, so I've skipped it since then. Could very well have been my method for making it, not putting it down, just didn't work well for me.
I wanted to find you to ask u a q but keep forgetting lol Do you have an indoor catchment for gray water? I need to rebuild my kitchen wall with all the cabinets and kitchen sink and would love indoor catchment ideas because we get 40below here and cannot do outdoor catchment without letting cold air in or frozen pipes I seen a nature documentary on this... I think it was Japanese water gardens or something like that but this was set up to flow out where it doesn't freeze like we do but they use fish and water plants to get everything cleaned up I realise that fish cannot tolerate soap and grease but grease doesn't go down our drain anyway any ideas would be helpful thanks so much
I've seen that video. They had their systems connecting to a stream/spring I believe that was moving. We've experimented and it definitely doesn't make sense in a cold climate to collect gray water all winter... The soils don't need it and it's a huge burden if you are going very simply with 5 gallon buckets under the sink. Maybe there is a design to send it out to a grey water bed in the growing season and back down the pipe for the winter?
@@edibleacres yes but blocking the pipe come winter could be more difficult but shouldn't be a problem if I have to re do it all anyway... Our plumming is broken at the moment and it has to all be done come summer... We just hand bomb it at the moment But if there's a way to use it inside winter time would be better... I'm looking into aquaponics and filters for that might give me more ideas :) Thanks for all your ideas :) if u get anymore ideas on this please let me know :) we want to go green as much as possible thanks again
Personally I've never had success with hardwood cuttings, but I believe I'll try again in this system. You may consider putting one cutting in water inside, letting it sprout and start growing, then potting up the hardwood stem with the new shoot in a way where the base of the new shoot is under soil. That would allow a softwood rooting to happen. Tricky but possible.
@@stevehall9256 I bought cuttings from edible acres and stuck them in permanent locations in the fall and early spring with great success. Key is to have a organic well drain soil and they were currants and jostaberrys. A plus side to currants is the deer don't bother them like almost everything else.
Just a suggestion for those who let chickens free range, they will gobble up any kind of small white pellets like that and I'm pretty sure it's not good for them. I'm not sure what instinct makes them think it's food, maybe it looks like insect eggs or something. I learned the hard way with Styrofoam insulation panels.
The way I understand his video explanation, that is the purpose of the insulated fire bricks. Then the doubled poly plastic layer is the next insulator, in addition to being what holds the rooting medium.
Julie PdeM that is some yes but sitting on concrete just acts as a huge heat sink and for that nothing beats air. From experience growing lots of plants in garage you have to minimize the contact patch otherwise you are trying to heat the growing media but thermodynamics says that you will also be heating the concrete, heat flows hot to cold so any extra heat added will only serve to heat the concrete as well. It doesn’t take much but I recommend sub-flooring panels as they are easy to work with and do an awesome job at providing a buffer between the concrete.
I put down very insulative and lightweight fire brick under it as well as 4" of perlite... I hear you that more insulation would be ideal, but I think I got a decent amount.
@@edibleacres more of what i was trying to say is that insulation will never be more effective than a actually air barrier. the best insulation is no insulation in this case air barriers between anything that share a high thermal conductivity such as the concrete and the propagation bed
Consider subscribing, liking and sharing if you found this video useful...
Another pretty important note here that I forgot to mention in the video... Part of this design is to stack function and have the 'waste heat' that escapes this propagation space help provide warmth for the garage/workspace. This way we can use the space more as it's more comfortable, and also store seedling flats, bare root plants, etc., near this box to help buffer them from more intense cold outside during this swing season...
Are you aware of the old school horse poop, bottom heat method?
Love the idea of stacked function but I would recommend a poly hoop over this with a vent flap that you can open periodically. That way you will lower the cost of heating the larger space at unnecessary times. I don't however know how that will affect the cuttings liking cooler tops.
@MAXIE 677 - I understand your idea here, but the challenge is that I don't want to have the tops be warmed up prematurely. Ideal scenario is 74F right at the location where we want root formation, and 33F above. Most root before shoot...
Thank you so much, for adding the temperature in centigrade too - that is so thoughtful of you and very helpful for all of us Europeans who are following your channel.
Your channel is so edifying to me, I really feel I've found gold. Not only are you a calm and grounded person (non stressful to watch), you are also very thorough and kind. Character-traits that are somewhat of a rarity in today's world. So thank you, for sharing your life, passion and wanting to educate others to live a more beautiful and healthy existence too, not only for ourselves, but also for the environment and animals around us. This is great! :)
Folks have been requesting the metric and I'm trying to remember!
Thanks for these really thoughtful and generous words. I really appreciate it.
Very helpful for us Canadians, too! Thank you for taking the time to convert.
You are always so inventive using published science to come up with practical INEXPENSIVE methods to grow 🌱 plants.👍
THanks for the kind words.
- 22 Celsius right now in Saskatchewan. Enjoying fussing with my cool season annuals in the grow room and thought I should jump out and grab some hardwood cuttings
This is fantastic! I like how you use what you have to make simple solutions that function well. Thanks for sharing! I have been looking for more information about propagation. I’m looking forward to your Q&A on propagation.
Me too. I think it will be a rich area to delve into with folks!
Hello, I was looking into how much water to add to the soil for cuttings and you answered it. Thanks!
Also for root hormone replacement. Canadian Permaculture guy talks about blending up willow tips or branches in water and extracting the Indolebutyric acid to use to aid the roots. Might work better than honey water, not sure. Keep up the good work and thanks for the inspiration! I always appreciate the way you make these things seem so doable and approachable. It's very Pineappleish
Really happy to share what we're up to and what we're trying. Hope you have great success and fun crossover with the 'pineappleish' silly reference in this old video! Never had that happen before :)
thanks for sharing your propagation practice! i'm rooting some hardwood fruit cuttings in my unheated sunroom & have found it to be a lovely winter project :)
It's really rewarding
Thanks for another great video. I always been in awe of your talent with plants. The video you did last time on this subject really opened my eyes to this technique.
I don't think there is talent in this, it's just casting a really wide net so some things work :)
Nice setup. Cloning trees is easy as 1 2 3. Thanks for sharing!
Can’t wait to see when the roots start coming in! Great video-
Me too. Fingers crossed for good growth. I'll offer an update video.
Nice! A fyi...I have elderberry and a cranberry I cut stems from. Cut up into 4-6" lengths. Put a paper towel in a baggie and or in a jar with lid unscrewed. They are in a cool area of house and are growing leaves. Definite no cost involved. Not my idea but saw on another homesteader channel. Working so far! Love what you are doing!
I'm glad thats working for ya.
Wow thanks, can't wait for the follow up!
Excited to share more notes, I'm seeing little bumps on the stems of the seaberry already indicating that rooting isn't too far off...
I'm trying an old waterbed heater mat that I used for spouting seedlings,now for bottom heat blueberry propagation hope it works.
Hardwood or softwood?
This is so neat. I cant wait to see the results. I have no idea how to do this. Love your channel. Blessings
We'll share notes on how it goes.
Your videos are the best. I love the information and your vision.
Thanks kindly!
Awesome, I really enjoy seeing and learning the new or different methods you use !!😊
Just another approach that folks can be aware of as a possibility.
@@edibleacres 😊 Yes, thank you !!
Thank you for an excellent explanation. I just started a gutting bin on a seedling heating mat set at 75 F. I currently have it upstairs to get some diffuse light. It’s August in San Francisco. I left a few leaves on the cuttings. My previous attempts at cuttings seem to fail I think because my media has been too wet and no bottom heat. How important is having cool air? How much does light matter if you have a few leaves or better to do this without leaves in minimal light?
I’m curious how long your cutting generally take. I’m primarily interested in propagating maple, Japanese cherry and plum, Chinese quince, spruce and redwood trees.
Be well,
Mats H
Warmer soil and cooler air, a little bit of light and evenly moist but not dripping wet soil all leads to better results...
I’m definitely not ready for this scale, but it is good to keep in mind for expanding our perennial landscapes.
Any notes or recommendations for plants that are the best/most forgiving to learn this process?
Most forgiving are currants, elderberry and willow I've found. Definitely don't need a setup like this to propagate them easily!
Figs are also super easy
Thanks so much for this and thanks for linking back to the simpler way also. Really informative!
Glad you found it useful.
Great setup!
Great information. I’ve been using solar panels along with 12 volt pump etc. and honey as a rooting stimulant for a few years now to propagate my blueberry plants and have experienced a good degree of success. Perhaps that would be something you can benefit from as a solar propagation system does require a small investment but it can be very useful and long lasting.
You mean for a misting system? Or for a bottom heat system?
EdibleAcres Hey. The panels can be used in both manners once you include a battery to store energy. In the misting context you use little to no battery power - as you use pump that runs only during daytime. However the panel can provide energy during the day and provide stored battery power for bottom heat wires as needed ( day or night). I have used panels mainly in the misting context.
so is the idea that these cutting will be potted up and sold in the spring or do you plan to grow them a full season before selling? once these plants produce roots and are potted it up, transferred to the greenhouse will their roots continue to colonize soil until spring or will putting them the greenhouse encourage leaf growth? thanks for answering my questions so far and being so generous with your knowledge and time!
We try to get them to root in here in the late winter / early spring... Then we transplant out into rich garden soil to grow for a whole season, then dug up in the fall for falll bare root or follownig spring bare root sales... We avoid potting up and greenhouse production as they are more complex and fragile.
Happy to answer!
You said the other night in your live that I needed 2 kinds of elderberry for them to thrive. Something to do with pollination. I have only ordered 3 cuttings of one kind. Will that work or do I need to order 3 of another kind? I truly look up to you for your knowledge as you've gained it with experience. We struggle hard right now but I wish we could order some grapes and other things from you. As it sits we ordered 3 cuttings for $10 and even that hurt lol. One breath at a time and it will get better.
I would avoid ordering more elderberry. Are there wild stands where you live? Other gardeners you can reach out to to help prune? Trades online? Volunteer with a farm to get plant material? Etc. Etc. Thats how we got a whole lot of our plant stock up and running.
@@edibleacres I haven't seen wild around here unfortunately I have definitely looked lol. The farms around me are all corn and grain but I will reach out online. I pray we can find some, thank you for the suggestions 😊.
Great content! All the best, Sean!
Thanks for another informative video! I did have an unrelated question and I thought you may have a suggestion? I have a couple of acres that stays quite marshy/boggish as it sits low next to a creek. I'd really like to use it for an orchard or to be able to graze my animals. Any ideas of how to dry up or utilize that much space?
Work with it, rather than against it. Find plants that enjoy the context and set it in motion as a marshy production space!
I bottom heat my annual garden starts with an incandescent light rope. I wonder if that'd be an affordable bottom heat source.
Good reminder. My friend Akiva at Twisted Tree used that in the past and I believe had good results. I would still definitely encourage the temperature control in one way or another to be safe and keep the temps in a good place.
No willow water as an ingredient in your natural rooting stimulant mix?
I tried it once or twice and found that it somehow supported rotting in the cuttings more than I'd like, so I've skipped it since then. Could very well have been my method for making it, not putting it down, just didn't work well for me.
Hope you gets lots of roots!
Thanks!
I wanted to find you to ask u a q but keep forgetting lol
Do you have an indoor catchment for gray water?
I need to rebuild my kitchen wall with all the cabinets and kitchen sink and would love indoor catchment ideas because we get 40below here and cannot do outdoor catchment without letting cold air in or frozen pipes
I seen a nature documentary on this... I think it was Japanese water gardens or something like that but this was set up to flow out where it doesn't freeze like we do but they use fish and water plants to get everything cleaned up
I realise that fish cannot tolerate soap and grease but grease doesn't go down our drain anyway any ideas would be helpful thanks so much
I've seen that video. They had their systems connecting to a stream/spring I believe that was moving. We've experimented and it definitely doesn't make sense in a cold climate to collect gray water all winter... The soils don't need it and it's a huge burden if you are going very simply with 5 gallon buckets under the sink. Maybe there is a design to send it out to a grey water bed in the growing season and back down the pipe for the winter?
@@edibleacres yes but blocking the pipe come winter could be more difficult but shouldn't be a problem if I have to re do it all anyway... Our plumming is broken at the moment and it has to all be done come summer... We just hand bomb it at the moment
But if there's a way to use it inside winter time would be better... I'm looking into aquaponics and filters for that might give me more ideas :)
Thanks for all your ideas :) if u get anymore ideas on this please let me know :) we want to go green as much as possible thanks again
Interesting video. Thanks for sharing
Have you ever rooted Hardy kiwi from cuttings? I just bought Scion wood and am hoping to get it to root.
Personally I've never had success with hardwood cuttings, but I believe I'll try again in this system. You may consider putting one cutting in water inside, letting it sprout and start growing, then potting up the hardwood stem with the new shoot in a way where the base of the new shoot is under soil. That would allow a softwood rooting to happen. Tricky but possible.
@@edibleacres thanks for the tip I'll give it a try. Would be great to get several plants and verities going for such a low cost.
@@edibleacres thanks for always responding it really is amazing how generous you are with your knowledge and time.
Very interesting video. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you. My currents I purchased from you have rooted at about 15 percent. I am still learning. How do I best transition them to pots?
I wouldn't move them to pots, I'd encourage you plant them all out into permanent garden locations when the ground can be worked this spring.
EdibleAcres thanks
@@stevehall9256 I bought cuttings from edible acres and stuck them in permanent locations in the fall and early spring with great success. Key is to have a organic well drain soil and they were currants and jostaberrys. A plus side to currants is the deer don't bother them like almost everything else.
chris k wow, thank you
Just a suggestion for those who let chickens free range, they will gobble up any kind of small white pellets like that and I'm pretty sure it's not good for them. I'm not sure what instinct makes them think it's food, maybe it looks like insect eggs or something. I learned the hard way with Styrofoam insulation panels.
Do you water additionaly after?
Yep. As needed, trying not to over do it.
I love this! It's amazing! 😍
Great info thanks for sharing!! 👍🤙
It's none of my dang business but what is that stainless broasted chicken cooker looking thing behind the step ladder in the beginning of the vid?
Ha! That is an electric kiln for clay pottery... :)
i built many floors in big houses like this,,,,,rich people always want heated floors, lololol,,,,,great set up you have here
Maybe the rich people were hoping to start small scale nurseries but just didn't know it :)
you should put some insulation between the floor and the heater just get it off the floor
The way I understand his video explanation, that is the purpose of the insulated fire bricks. Then the doubled poly plastic layer is the next insulator, in addition to being what holds the rooting medium.
Julie PdeM that is some yes but sitting on concrete just acts as a huge heat sink and for that nothing beats air. From experience growing lots of plants in garage you have to minimize the contact patch otherwise you are trying to heat the growing media but thermodynamics says that you will also be heating the concrete, heat flows hot to cold so any extra heat added will only serve to heat the concrete as well. It doesn’t take much but I recommend sub-flooring panels as they are easy to work with and do an awesome job at providing a buffer between the concrete.
I put down very insulative and lightweight fire brick under it as well as 4" of perlite... I hear you that more insulation would be ideal, but I think I got a decent amount.
@@edibleacres more of what i was trying to say is that insulation will never be more effective than a actually air barrier. the best insulation is no insulation in this case air barriers between anything that share a high thermal conductivity such as the concrete and the propagation bed
Please dont click bait.
That thumbnail has me trippin
Sasha designed this one!