Prepping for Winter: Arianne II Part 2
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
- The line-by-line analysis of the Winds of Winters sample chapters continues. We now take on Arianne II...part 2. A chapter filled with references to Bittersteel, Bran and the Children of the Forest
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Whisper *"and were back"* in my ear preston, prep me for winter
Well something is certainly coming
Someone is ready for.. The Long Night...
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Prep me harder daddy P
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do you really think Winds of Winter will be published?
In Jaime I in ADWD Lord Blackwood mentions that dead weirdwood trees don't rot, but turn to stone. Maybe that is what Arienne encounters in the cave?
Preston, you're making the wait for TWoW an amazing time, thank you!!!!
Reading (or in this case hearing) about the children of the forest always gives me chills, especially with the image Preston uses of the Children
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I believe it was mentioned that dead weirwood trees turn to stone, so maybe those rock faces where once trees
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I never would have pegged you for a Preston fan..... you're more of an emergency awesome kind of guy.
I'm no geologist, but couldn't the stone columns be petrified weirwood?
Here's a passage from Jaime I, ADwD:
"The Brackens poisoned it," said his host. "For a thousand years it has not shown a leaf. In another thousand it will have turned to stone, the maesters say. Weirwoods never rot."
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As a student of geology I'll say that it's possible, but very unlikely that there would be a cave with walls entirely made of fossilised wood that preserved it's original shape for at least pouple thousand years needed for fossilisation to occur. But still, it's as much a possiblilty as fossils of dinosaurs to exist, and there quite a lot of them.
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I think you might be right, here's the exact line"....surrounded by a 'forest' of stone columns" !
aren't limestone and petrified weirwood of the same white-ish color and could be confused with each other? and what stone did the faceless use to carve their columns in the House of Black and White?
If it is possible for stone to work like the Weirwood network, then suddenly it throws up all kinds of interesting points about Winterfell. I don't know if GRRM was thinking about this back when he was writing book one, but Winterfell, built under the watchful gaze of a heart tree, is itself described by Maester Luwin as like a great, stone tree, reaching the sky with roots deep in the ground (presumably the crypts, themselves built atop the cave network). And those crypts are full of carved stone faces, the statues of Starks past, with swords on their laps to keep the vengeful spirits in. And Bran feels a connection to Winterfell nobody else seems to, feeling almost like a god when he's perched high among the gargoyles (more carved stone faces), watching the city spread out below him, very reminiscent of BloodRaven, in his cave, watching the outside world.
Can't get enough! Thank you again for all your hard work! Keep rereading and rethinking!!!
Elia is Gollum confirmed.
Your effort is appreciated, Preston!
It's obvious that Arya teleported from the House of Black and White to the caves via the Limestone Net, killed Elia, stole her face, and is now on a quest to find and kill Aegon and JonCon.
like duh
Oh my god, you are so right. How could i have never noticed that before!
Duh 🤷🏾♀️
"That's the raven calling the crow, black." There's my new analogy to use. Thanks for the Prep.
Doran has sent Arianne to Aegon with the expectation that she will betray Doran & make a play for the throne. He's done this to guarantee conflict between Dany & Aegon, regardless of whether Quentyn's quest is successful or not. Think about it, when Arianne learns that JonCon's plan involves Aegon marrying Dany, it puts Arianne in the perfect position to tell them about Quentyn as part of a scheme to wed Aegon herself. Additionally, Arianne believes she has the ability to engage the Dornish forces by simply sending a raven with the word "dragon" and will likely use that to persuade JonCon toward this course of action.
Thank you so much for making the time til WoW is released a bit more pleasant, Preston ...
Wanted to go to sleep, wont happen thanks to you. :-)
GrimeZ K WoW will never be released 🙁
Never been so lucky to get on this soon. Thanks for all the great content, and thanks helping with the shakes from not having WoW by now. At least the show will be out soon.
Anytime I need to do some inane task around the house, Preston is there for me!
God, I love GRRMS literary style so much.
best way to start my day thank you Preston
Limestone is also notoriously unstable and prone to cave-ins if not reinforced by more stable minerals. So Jon Connington could maybe use sappers to collapse the walls of Storm's end?
I think the cavern is just full of dead weirwoods, like the one in Raventree Hall, "surrounded by a _forest_ of stone columns", then later they say columns have faces and are supposedly shaped. It's most likely that they're dead trees and at least according to Blackwood, dead/poisoned weirwoods turn to stone over time while remaining upright. The face on the wall is most likely another weirwood gate like at the Nightfort.
Preston, you should really read H.P.Lovecraft. I felt so much Lovecraft wi=hen I was reading his section(in the cave). I was seeing a lot of connection with "The Beast in the Cave" short story here.
thx for the uploads man, keep 'em coming
oooh preston. I really hope at some point in time you get a 1v1 with George and it turns out that he is aware of your work and you are correct about all of this. It would be really great. I assume he will be really proud of you and feel really good that people are catching on all those cool hints. Keep it up, we love your work
I think the "A thousand years ago." line is not meant to be a literal millennia, but rather is meant to simply imply a long time ago.
Perhaps the stone faces in the cave were not part of any real network. I think it is possible that the last remnants of the southern Children of the Forest faced a cultural decline. As their people were driven from their homes by the humans, they began losing their knowledge and magic. The caves were an ideal place for the last survivors to hide out, but there were no weirwood trees down there. Maybe the forest of faces was an attempt to recreate the heart trees of the past, without a true understanding of what those trees were, much like the humans in present times do not truly understand why the weirwood trees are sacred. Maybe the stone faces were a memorial to the weirwood trees that were cut down. Maybe the faces were part of some ancient attempt at magic. It would take a long time to carve that many faces, especially if the only available tools were made of stone. Whoever carved those faces, clearly had a strong motivation for doing so, but since the stone carvings are so inconsistent with previous behavior of the Children, I think that the project ended in failure.
This is so good!...can't wait for the next book
I'm real excited for the next part and for what this stone faces means for the deeper secrets of the Children of the Forest
Perhaps the stones with faces are in fact weirwoods that are so old they turned to stone; weirwood is known to have this property.
Keep em' coming brotha.
1...and we are back
Will Wolverine have a final showdown with ser twenty goodmen this season? and if so who will win?
and I was just saying Preston should be dropping another video soon
limestone is the most common stone to contain fossils... fossilized weirwood.
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How have I never noticed that Dani drawing lacks pupils
cannot unsee
I used to think of you like sweet robin. Small and fraigle. Now I've realised that if you're one character from ASOIAF is the bracken boy i think. Hey may be a blackwood. The tall bookish guy who knew a lot about history. The kid jamie takes as a ward. Just think about it. You're so him. Sorry not sorry.
Blackwood bestwood! Down with the traitorous Bracken!
In terms of the children being in the south as recently as that, it's most likely that Arianne doesn't know her history, but maesters have told untruths or half truths in their accounts before, too.
How would Doran know the stone crows called out "halfman"?
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no probably Qyburn would learn about it from somewhere
also from Tyrion's aGoT adventures in riverlands, most westermen would learn about it and soldiers spread rumors, later they would spread rumors in King's landing
Cory C Glass candle communications with Sarella?
Sure, or Marwyn, who was in contact with Qyburn
He doesnt its fake news. It never happened he just told Arianne that this would happen. But preston himself says the plan is too smart for cersei.
"I caught two fish" "You could have died". Fish have always been a metaphor for the Tullys. Could this be an allusion to them? Maybe a hint at a future story line for Arianne or the Sand Snakes in the Riverlands? Also, Jaime caught two fish (Edmure and his unborn child).
hell yea!!
Its funny to think that if doran ordered one of ariannes companions to cut myrcella, that means he knows it isnt myrcella and wanted to disguise rosamund even more.
we need part 3!!!!!! :DD great job
I wonder if the line about young girls (particularly Dany) not wanting "solemn boys who always did their duty" is going to end up being subversive if Dany ends up being romantically interested in Jon (who is also supposedly "fire") ♂️🤷🏻♀️♀️
Nice video! Keep it up!
Can't stop thinking that the Griffin's End thing wasn't a typo but a misdirection, as some key points could have already happened at that point in the book.
Great video again, but there is no stone net, I believe. These stone pillars are either Weirwoods or their roots. Ariana merely believes they're stone because they're white and huge, and she didn't expect trees underground. I'm pretty sure this is one of the Weirwood.net caverns that we've heard about, all of which are connected. It wouldn't surprise me if this one fed the powers at Storms End, and there were these caverns in Winterfell, The Wall and the house of black and white.
I cant back it up but i feel like Bran s gonna use the under ground river to escape bloodravens cave with his professional boat maker Meera i also think the river goes under Winterfell and we ll learn alot about the crypts and why there are hot springs under it when they get there....super super tinfoil the river underground runs to winterfell , storms end ,and oldtown everywhere Bran the Builder was known to have been. Bloodraven telling Bran not to fear the darkness its his mothers milk is BR telling Bran how to escape to his mothers milk(Winterfell) .i know it sounds crazy
The weirwoods turn into stone eventually, so maybe the faces were carved in wood. The dead tree at Raventree might still function because of the ravens, so maybe it is the same with stone weirwoods.
Perhaps the Arianne chapters are yet another parallel story as Arianne is on a doomed mission where only death awaits.
k m Why do you say that?
Jon155mt because Martin repeats himself.
k m I'm sorry, would you mind giving me a summary of her storyline recently? I'm not very up to date with what "mission" she's going on so I'm not aware of the potential dangers she's facing.
Jon155mt Doran Martell sent Arianne on a mission to meet and potentially marry a targ much like the disaster quentyn quest.
k m oh ok cool, thanks
Hey Preston! Don't forget the fact that Weirwoods don't die, but instead petrify and turn to stone. Could be that the stone pillars in the caves are actually ancient trees!
Sure, but that doesn't explain the wall.
@PrestonJacobs In Jaime I, A Dance with Dragons, it says: "The Brackens poisoned it," said his host. "For a thousand years it has not shown a leaf. In another thousand it will have turned to stone, the maesters say. Weirwoods never rot." So, at least the columns could be petrified weirwoods.
I hope he does Barristan chapter next
I love the squires he has
and I'm curious how quentyns companions were able to convince the tattered prince to betray the slavers
i thought the faces were fossilized green seers like the room bran saw when he went looking for jojen and mera using hodor
I believe the stone is actually peterified weirwood
I've spent more time than I should going over the text at 13:09 in the video. The way it's written makes it hard for me to tell whether it's Arianne or Daemon saying that the stone faces were carved by the children of the forest. If it's Arianne I might have to wonder if the COF are really the ones responsible for the stone faces. As preston loves to point out, our POV characters are usually wrong. This may be hinting at another group or species using a telepathic net for surveillance.
you had me at "we're back"...especially after having no internet access for a week...and by the way...that girl is sooooooo finding Bran
Thanks Preston! Can't wait for the Night's Watch videos
Preston, I'd love to hear your thoughts about House Blackwood; its history, bloodlines and any agenda they may have. Would you do an upload for this topic?
Caverns...should we revisit Sandkings and Way of Cross and Dragon?
so maybe children of forest play the role of 'dwarves' from lord of the rings. and maybe they dug too deep as well.
I know this is a VERY late reply. But have you checked out the ibbenese they seem to quite litteraly be dwarves like those created by Tolkien
Gods I'm excited for this book!
Damn can you even imagine... Imagine a world where the richest people still stay in caves. We have totally lost our touch with nature because that would be impossible now-a-days. It also seems that Planetos doesn't have that many people on it. Compared to us anyways this world seems a lot smaller than ours. Idk just something to think about.
Hmm, what if those columns are actually not by the children, but the Others ? The whole descent of Arianne's party reminds me of "In the House of the Worm", and there, the "others" where the ones living deeper underground. What if the Others have a similar method of communicating as the children, though through limestone instead of weirwoods ?
The other balon swann task is to bring Myrcella. Cersei didn't have any suspicion too think that Tyristane would came with her and Cersei never thinks about the stormcrows as a possible pace for were Tyrion could had gone
this vídeo was awsome
when TWOW finally is published I want Preston to do an analysis of every single chapter :D
The cave = Winterfell before Stark build the castle. My pet theory is Starks build the house to hide / hoard the cotf cave. One side effect of the treaty: any boy with the name "bran" was signed into slavery serving CotF.
I forgot if the Alayne and Mercy chapter is already tackled but if it isn't yet, then I would like to have an analysis of it.
Anda. Posted up 7 hours ago, this video shall make my morning coffee all the tastier. Thanks for all your work! Limestone. Thanks for discussing how limestone is formed! For those intrigued by the proceses of the slow cycle of organic life turning to stone, I'd recommend reading about en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stromatolite. It'll help pass the time til Preston Jacobs' next video.
Maybe the cave was just a graveyard for Children of the forest and not the limestone net.
part 2 is here!!!
WELL. Let me just go grab a drink before I enjoy another PJ vid!
So No connection between children statue and Crypts of Winterfell🤔
Would it be possible for the wall of stone faces in the cave to be related to the crypts of Winterfell? They are both underground stone rooms in complete darkness, with stone faces. Since the narrators are usually wrong, maybe the faces are not the faces of children of the forest, but of a more ancient human civilization that the Starks derived they're strange tradition from. (Maybe its a human stone net used to counter the children)
Anyway, your videos are great and I watch all of them.
Corn code on the "...died... died... died..." tells me Elia will have a near death experience. If those were separate sentences "Died. Died. Died." as we see throughout the series to signify impeding doom.... Elia would die at some point
Honestly? I think Arianne's mention of a thousand years is just another sign that nobody in the story has any idea how ancient more than moderately ancient stuff is. For all we know whatever events lead to the legend of the Long Night might've happened a thousand years and the Anda Invasion something like 500 years ago. We've seen absolutely no proof that conlclusively dates anything back several millenia and a shorter chronology gets around the whole "why are they STILL in the Middle Ages?" thing.
We readers are modern people who've gone to modern schools and can count on generations of modern historians to have a pretty good idea of our distant past, but the characters in ASOIAF are in a similar position to medieval Europeans who believed their kings could reliably trace their lineage back to Troy and the world was created out of nothing 6000ish years ago.
liked, awaited.
Let's see... Elia has 7 sisters, and Arianne worries she'll be killed 7 different ways if Elia dies in the cave. And, you wonder if there's some other meaning (religious) to the idea of being killed 7 different ways. Preston, I love you, but your have gone off the deep end.
or arriane tought that each sister gonna kill her 7 time
How comes Sansa chapter is not the first for you to view?
Theory: The warning Arianne told her friend at the beginning of this chapter about wandering too far into the caves was in fact a subtle hint GRRM was telling you about your theories going full crackpot. He might have included a reference somewhere about butchering the pronunciation of Arianne somewhere too. Aa-ree-on, man, not Air-e-onna.
The 3 words repetition again - the code is here "her wors echoed off the cavern walls. "died... died.. diedd " but since it is not caps , maybe it means nothing
died...died...died...corn
Where is the raven calling the Kettleblack?
I never read nor heard about such a thing.
Hey Preston could you make a video on will Jon Snow be king in the north in the books. Since they know about Rickon.
"and even blackberries" :D
I love the HoBaW/Children connection, I've never seen that made in such a convincing way before. So that begs the question, if the Faceless Men are somehow based on the practices of the Children, how did that come to be? We know the Faceless Men supposedly originated from those working the mines in Valyria, so perhaps they found a similar cave - if so, are the Children themselves actually really refugees from other lands (or perhaps they were the original native species across the planet and were wiped out everywhere, Westeros being their last bastion), or do the cave networks extend not only across all of Westeros but under the seas to other lands too?
I prefer the former, because then the Andals coming to Westeros, the Children flooding their lands, the Long Night and the Children's eventual near destruction would be like a smaller version of the planet wide story (complete with the same broad strokes such as the toxicity of Asshai and the five forts of Yi Ti), but maybe the sand suggests the tunnels were once connected until the sea encroached.
If I were to really guess, the Children are inventing religions to get mankind to kill itself. It the plot of a GRRM story called And Seven Times Never Kill Man.
Yeah, I definitely think that's possible, I mean, slaves killing themselves because their lives are brutal and hard isn't really unusual, but forming a whole religion around euthanasia (and eventually murder) certainly is. I just wonder how the Children got this message to Valyrian slaves. Did someone bring the religion in from the outside (either physically as a captured slave, or via dreams) or were the faces already there to be used by the Children as a conduit, meaning the Children are either capable of travelling much further than the borders of Westeros, or were once much more widespread across Planetos.
This was my favorite UA-cam channel for a long time and probably is still. But I haven't watched a video since season 6 was released because I was afraid he could use it as some sort of source when discussing ASoIaF and I really wanted to read the 6th book without any knowledge of the series. Though, it is getting hard, because I miss those videos so much -.-
So, I might as well ask. Does Preston Jacobs talk about the series in his theory videos? Can I watch his videos and still read Wind of Winter without any knowing information shown in Game of Thrones season 6 and 7?
For the most part, I keep show and book separate. I never talk about show in my book videos. I do talk about the books in my show videos some.
Arianne has a point Danny also likes the wicked smiles- > Dario?!?!
Maybe I missed it, but did you mention the tunnels under Castamere?
And he mentions a number of specific places in the Westerlands too (Casterly Rock). I figure the mention of caves in the Westerlands generally is a reference to gold mines. It's just that Castamere is special in the way that Tywin killed off the Reynes by blocking the cave entrances, to where they retreated, and diverting a stream to drown them.
I am assuming why the main theme of Arianne chapter is about sexuality because maybe Doran wants Arianne to realize the differences between Dornish/Rhoynish culture than the rest of Westerosi culture. That is, if she wishes to be queen of Westeros, she can not be in equal level to a king in a patriarchal system. Doran might want her to see that to become a truly queen, that 'Roynish restoration' you've said must be executed first.
Do Arianne and Dany have such different taste in men? I'd think Daario is a pretty similar character type to Daario. Although maybe Dany before Drogo might have felt differently. Im not sure. I feel like my first relationship kinda of formed a girlfriend archetype in my head. Then again ive been in my first relationship for almost 2 decades. So i really dont know as it happens
So the cavern is basically a server room.
What is that ‚information‘ in the description
you should watch some of the order of the greenhand's videos. they have some interesting ideas on the connections between the various caves and the children and the house of black and white and other religions in essos
If it's not truly Princess Myrcella that lost an ear, why would Uncle Kevan tell Cersei this? On the other hand, believing Myrcella will keep secret of how she obtained her injury from her mother seems beyond stupid👸🏼🦁
Yay!
I bet there are caves underneath Summerhall.
It isnt just the mountain clans who call Tyrion halfman..
are u reading an abridged version of these sample breakdowns?
Uh can't wait to read the new book and curse Preston in my mind the whole time I am pronouncing Arianne wrong.