When Boiling NES 72-Pin Connector Doesn't Work, Experiment Fixing Blinking Nintendo by Bending Pins

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  • Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
  • While an attempt at boiling the 72-Pin connector did improve things with this NES, it didn't restore it to 100% functionality. I attempted a second boil, cleaned some games, and end up re-bending the connector pins. Tools used in this video: www.amazon.com...
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  • @KabukeeJo
    @KabukeeJo 8 років тому +69

    When I boil the 72 pin connector, I sometimes add carrots and other veggies and make myself some NESoup.

    • @8bitjunkie8
      @8bitjunkie8  8 років тому +5

      +Kabuki Jo Mmmmm... NESoup

    • @hektorlinko
      @hektorlinko 7 років тому +6

      Yeah when I first started boiling my connectors in the kitchen my family was like, what are you cooking? They thought I was crazy. So I was like, I'm doing some video game shit and science. They still think I'm crazy. They don't get it. But hey...it works and to each their own right? haha lol

  • @TheUnbearded
    @TheUnbearded 8 років тому +39

    My wife caught me boiling the connector and thought I had finally snapped and was just
    punishing it for not working.

  • @bluesnags7711
    @bluesnags7711 5 років тому +2

    Boiling the connector worked perfect. When I saw the ring of film in the pot I knew it was alot cleaner, it removed gunk vinegar and alcohol didnt. Thanks for uploading this.

  • @kevynbrownell719
    @kevynbrownell719 6 років тому +13

    No wonder those things wear out. Does everyone slam the games in like that?

    • @HOMIE_Sanity
      @HOMIE_Sanity 6 місяців тому +1

      This guy is a retard he’s like a 3 year old kid that dosnt know what the hell he’s doing. Slamming them in shaking them moving them while in the system are all bad ideas! And FOR GODS SAKE YOU JUST CLEANED THE CONNECTOR! CLEAN THE GAMES BEFORE YOU PUT THEM IN OR YOU GET THE CONNECTOR DIRTY AGAIN! NUMBNUTS!!!

  • @gillianseed4419
    @gillianseed4419 7 років тому +8

    I remember the systems were like this when they were current, mostly at houses where the kids parents smoked

  • @d-complexakasnypermclivedr9549
    @d-complexakasnypermclivedr9549 6 років тому +2

    Hey there. I just refurbished a nasty NES I found at a swap meet that would not load any games at all without blinking and blinking forever no matter what I did. So I decided to try bending the pin connectors back. I used a safety pin and it worked very well. I tried it on the nes and the games were now loading but still not perfect. So I boiled the Pin connector for 10 mins in distilled water. After this I re-bent the pin connectors back one more time, popped it back on, and BOOM. I would say 9/10 the games now start up on their first try depending on the game condition. This technique works! Thanks for the video.

    • @Ninja_Gaijin
      @Ninja_Gaijin 4 роки тому

      you'll still need to clean the games as well to get 10/10 working but yes internal is the main thing.. also remember if you use dirty games in future on your 'clean' connector, it will dirty the once clean internal connector

  • @zeroumashi2947
    @zeroumashi2947 9 років тому +6

    you have to bend the top pins first before bending the bottom ones
    and you need a flashlight and safety pin to bend the top ones
    and you need to reach in the center just above the bottom pins to reach the top pins as the holes at the far top of the connector frame only hold the ends of the top pins inside a divider frame and the divider plastic is fragile so be careful.
    and just a tip,the top pins matter more than the bottom pins as they are the ones that make full contact with the top game cartridge pins to receive data from the game cartridge.

  • @Tsubakiee
    @Tsubakiee 7 років тому +1

    Excellent, best video to show EXACTLY what you need to bend, thanks!

  • @chrisbaughman9860
    @chrisbaughman9860 7 років тому

    I remember these issues as a kid it was a nightmare not only starting a game but 90 percent of the time mid game blinking grey screen would start sometimes even only after a few seconds of gameplay

  • @ya9516
    @ya9516 8 років тому +2

    After watching this video I decided to bend up the pin connector. First time doing this and it work for me. It took me 8 minute to bend up the pins and I also disable the nes lockout chip.

    • @8bitjunkie8
      @8bitjunkie8  8 років тому

      +Jeremiah C glad you got it working

  • @musicgamer33
    @musicgamer33 9 років тому +1

    My NES would only read a few games and they were really hard to get to work so I pushed the pins back into place on the pin connector and now it reads all the games but the graphics are messed up and choppy to the point it's unplayable any suggestions

    • @8bitjunkie8
      @8bitjunkie8  9 років тому

      musicgamer33 sorry, not sure. If you want to send it to me I'll take a look at it and make a video out of it.

  • @jayc3472
    @jayc3472 7 років тому +2

    @8bitjunkie I don't know if you ever heard about BLW Blinking Light Win. I just found out about it myself. The name of the company is Arcade Works. It pretty much solves the 72 pin connector problem. I enjoy your videos and wish you'd make more.

    • @8bitjunkie8
      @8bitjunkie8  7 років тому +1

      yes, I've been looking to buy one since I heard about them but they're never in stock. been really busy working on another project for the last year but I hopefully will have time to make some videos this year. I have a few taped but need to edit them. thanks

  • @collj86
    @collj86 3 роки тому

    Hello
    I have an nes that was modded it has rgb and the blinking win mods
    I didnt know with the blinking win that you dont push down on the cart
    I pushed down on my carts. I wasnt aware that im not supposed too
    I wondered some of my pins are bent on my 72 pin connector
    Can i just bend them straight to get my nes working

  • @mariomejia1375
    @mariomejia1375 8 років тому +2

    does boiling the 72 pin connector damage it?

    • @8bitjunkie8
      @8bitjunkie8  8 років тому

      +Mario Mejia I don't think so.

  • @hektorlinko
    @hektorlinko 7 років тому +1

    Hey brother, Great Video! One thing I always do when refurbishing consoles etc is disabling the lockout chip and you'll never ever get the blinking red light. As a matter of fact all my consoles work like a top loader. Once everything is clean, the 72 pin connector is boiled and cleaned and tightened, all you have to do is push the game cart in and press power and it will play without pressing down. It works like a charm for me. I've repaired and refurbished hundreds of NES consoles and games etc. My NES has a longer life of game play. Been 2 years of constant game play and no issues and I play a lot of Nintendo. Anyway Thanks for you videos! Love them...You DA MAN!.. Your videos have helped me to tweak my hobby and I Thank You! : )

  • @princeharbinger
    @princeharbinger 7 років тому

    Hi, @8bitjunkie is it normal after cleaning the pin connector for some of clean pins to show some brass in color? Will the games still read if some brass is showing?

  • @1afeatherstone
    @1afeatherstone 7 років тому

    I boiled my 72 pin connector and it is partially working now. I'm going to re-boil it tonight for a second time and see if I can get more of my games to work. Right now it works about once every time I hit the power button. I cleaned the pins with alcohol and rebent the pins up and the cartridge is definitely more snug now. Any other suggestions on how to get the rust off of the pins other than boiling and rubbing with rubbing alcohol? Thanks for the vid!

  • @MagnumForce51
    @MagnumForce51 6 років тому +1

    I found my NES at a pawnshop a week or two ago. I only had to bend down the top pins. There's a way to remove them (and you're actually less likely to break anything with those actually if you know what you're doing. :P ). I think it's the top pins that cause the most issues. But yeah that seems a bit over tight for the bottom pins. Perhaps might put some excessive wear on the carts you use in it, but it will loosen a bit over time anyways so I bet it should be fine. :P
    I thought about also working on the bottom pints, but felt like I'd mess up the plastic getting at them so decided not to. Plus they didn't look like they were sagging that much.
    The way I did the top pins was push down on the top of them through the little holes on the top near the back of the plastic. There's a flap of metal on each pin that is bent up and holds them in the slot. Putting some pressure on them while pulling them out with a hook type tool (I had some tools with a hook at the end that came with my soldering kit that was perfect for this) should pull them out pretty easily. I then bend them down a little making sure the bend occurs where the metal changes in width from the wide backend to the narrower half.
    After I did this, the slot worked perfectly fine for me. Of coarse I also had to clean the mario game I got with the NES. So far got 2 games. Top Gun and Super Mario Bros with Duck Hunt. They both work everytime I put them in. :D
    Also the "replacement" connectors found online seem to be all made of steel or something while original NES ones are gold plated? Seems like the originals would last longer so best to just try and repair them. The build quality of the new one's just aren't up to snuff for this slot design.
    The BLW device I've heard about prevents the whole action of pushing down the cart after inserting it. I wished they made a version where the PCB is replaced by ribbon cables and some special housing so that you can still use the original slot mechanism. It would be completely useless since it would work the instant you insert the cart, but it preserves the feel that the front loader had and this is why I don't want to ever get a Blinking Light Win slot replacement. It's important to me that the NES works the way I remember it as a kid. :P

  • @aeneasfate
    @aeneasfate 10 років тому

    When the top row of pins also need to be bent back into shape, they have to be pulled out the back, reshaped and placed back into the housing. You have to be very careful and precise though, because too much can have the pin snag inside and bend around. If one gives a lot of trouble too many times the fragile pin will snap. If that happens, you can steal one of the unused pins in the middle of the slot to replace them, they go to the unused expansion port on the bottom behind the plastic.

  • @swagbusexpress2504
    @swagbusexpress2504 7 років тому +1

    I soaked mine in vinegar, then cleaned the pins on the motherboard with brasso until cleaned. Haven't had a probelm since.

  • @8bitjunkie8
    @8bitjunkie8  9 років тому +3

    TheGreySea2, I can't reply to your comment for some reason. But yeah, I agree with you. Based on what I've learned since I made this video almost a year ago, I would open the carts and clean them with the eraser method first.

    • @annad.7845
      @annad.7845 7 років тому +1

      Hi there, I read through the post below and couldn't find the parent post to your response here. Can you please further explain (based on what you learned this past year) how you would clean the cart with the eraser method (and I'm assuming here this is about cleaning the game carts)?

    • @8bitjunkie8
      @8bitjunkie8  7 років тому +1

      watch this ua-cam.com/video/BHAi5FfPatY/v-deo.html

    • @8bitjunkie8
      @8bitjunkie8  7 років тому +2

      the video I linked to explains how to clean carts w/ an eraser. it's a very safe and effective way to clean contacts.

    • @Ninja_Gaijin
      @Ninja_Gaijin 4 роки тому

      Thanks, appreciate the reply (changed my username)! I've got a cart with a scratched pin I am considering deoxit and/or sandpaper for but otherwise all my games have run with just eraser and isopropyl + qtips. I do still have a filthy (and presumably bent) internal connector so i'm finally getting around/getting the guts to boil and bend back the pins on my connector.. also since I've been storing my games mostly in those dinky little plastic dust covers (but in a fairly dirty room) I've found that over the years since cleaning they've got a small build up of grime on them again - thinking of getting cheap plastic sealable bags to enclose them in (as the hard plastic NES cases are super expensive I find) - I've done this for all my DVD cases/games, CDs and cassettes so far with good results in dust-proofing (I haven't tried this brand, only bought from '$2 shop' locally, but these are the kind of things I mean: www.amazon.com/RepairBox-Resealable-Cartridge-nintendo-entertainment-system/dp/B07RZ2PMSM )

    • @Ninja_Gaijin
      @Ninja_Gaijin 4 роки тому

      @@annad.7845 sorry my comment got lost somehow - you need a 'nes security bit' to open the cases usually, then with an eraser (I've used PVC free but I'm not sure if the type really matters) rub the gold pins on both sides liberally - depending how dirty and oxidised you may need to spend 5-20 minutes doing this. Then follow up by cleaning debris with isopropyl alcohol on qtip. I don't have Deoxit yet but I have heard good things about using either D100 or DN5S products (not sure which is best yet), to remove oxidation (then using isopropyl to remove any residue). Caig Deoxit isn't super cheap so I still haven't tried it but I hear it is a very useful thing to try at least on the internal connector - it should protect it in future after application and prolong the time between refurbishments to the internal connector, from what I understand

  • @ribxni
    @ribxni 8 років тому

    Hey guys so you're boiling it for how long? And regarding the eraser method for the cartridges you're meaning cleaning the connection with a pencil eraser?! Pardon my English! Last question, any good place to get a security bit for the cartridges you know of? Thanks very much for the attention, have a nice day!

    • @8bitjunkie8
      @8bitjunkie8  8 років тому

      +Miguel Cosme you can boil for 10-15 minutes, or maybe even 20-25. The time doesn't seem to be critical. Eraser method - yes, a regular pencil eraser. Security bit - amazon or ebay. I have these: amzn.to/1tn94wp but you can get them cheaper on Ebay from China: ebay.to/1r5LIiZ

  • @leosztlak
    @leosztlak 2 роки тому

    Has anyone tried the Nintendo NES 72 pin connector boil method to restore any other console cartridge reader?

  • @emmettturner9452
    @emmettturner9452 8 років тому +1

    The problem you are having with Athletic World is almost certainly capacitor-related. Easy fix!
    Capacitors store and release charge and bad caps don't have enough by the time the game's initial boot processes need it. When you reset they have had significantly longer to charge and, thus, they work.

    • @8bitjunkie8
      @8bitjunkie8  8 років тому

      +Emmett Turner hmm interesting. Maybe next time I have the camera set up I'll take a look at that. Thanks for the tip.

    • @user-wj9xq7ig2v
      @user-wj9xq7ig2v 4 роки тому

      Which caps in particular? The main cap?

    • @emmettturner9452
      @emmettturner9452 4 роки тому +1

      @@user-wj9xq7ig2v A capacitor inside the game cartridge, though replacing caps in the console could help also. Many games have a single electrolytic cap inside. I find that the bad ones will give a gray screen at power on until you cycle the power quickly or reset. The connection is good enough that CIC lock-out is working (not resetting/blinking) and the rest of the game demonstrably has a good connection (works after merely resetting) meaning it *should* have booted the first time... except that the bypass capacitor was too slow to charge and the ROM/mapper hardware did not power up fast enough before CPU execution glitched/stalled.

    • @user-wj9xq7ig2v
      @user-wj9xq7ig2v 4 роки тому

      @@emmettturner9452 wow thanks. I've been chasing a similar issue.

  • @CVRipley
    @CVRipley 8 років тому +1

    I find the best way to clean NES pins is to open the cart up and use an eraser on the pins. A really soft rubber eraser wont damage them. I typically use white white wescot brand erasers. I try to stay away from sprays and chemicals unless the cart has extreme corrosion.

    • @8bitjunkie8
      @8bitjunkie8  8 років тому

      +CVRipley yep, eraser method is the best.

    • @GiuseppeGaetanoSabatelli
      @GiuseppeGaetanoSabatelli 2 роки тому

      DeoxIT D100 is the best/most reliable refurb method. In the thousands of cartridges I've cleaned, I have only had 2 not work (because the PCB was literally cracked/bent).
      Brush on both sides, leave for 5-10 minutes, gently wipe. Even the worst carts came back to life.

  • @alubaldini
    @alubaldini 2 роки тому

    same problem is hard but when the game enter no more problem the probleme is when i change another cartridge

  • @SkuldChan42
    @SkuldChan42 6 років тому

    I picked up a nes at Goodwill and the 72 pin slot is so loose if I just hold the unit upside down the cart will fall out. I'm guessing just replace it right?

  • @MarshallMathersthe7th
    @MarshallMathersthe7th 8 років тому +1

    I just need to get myself a toploader, but they are real expensive here in Europe (Holland)
    Or get the mod that is freed from the push down tray, you just make it a straight load. Someone on youtube made it (google it or search yt)
    Untill then i just have to repeat sticking it inside and getting it out untill it works. If it works i can play however long i want.

  • @joshkelly4682
    @joshkelly4682 2 роки тому

    I got mine too work but the pins are loose I'm gonna try to bend them so I don't have to worry about the new pin connector

  • @BruceCultureAllen
    @BruceCultureAllen 9 років тому +1

    Cool technique. I usually open them and give it a cleaning then bend the pins out. It's an improvement but not perfect. I'll try this next time. I also cut the lock out pin. I prefer the smooth top NES'!

    • @8bitjunkie8
      @8bitjunkie8  9 років тому

      Greeneyez2475 thanks. I usually tell people to try boiling first as it's less likely to mess anything up and usually works. If boiling doesn't cut it, bend the pins. And, only cut the lockout pin as a last resort unless you want to play Japanese games too.

  • @BokuraStyle
    @BokuraStyle 10 років тому

    Hey I tried to bend the pins up and some games don't need to be pushed down to work, like super Mario bros., actually it doesn't work if pushed down, weird right?

    • @8bitjunkie8
      @8bitjunkie8  10 років тому

      maybe bent the pins too far up?

    • @Ninja_Gaijin
      @Ninja_Gaijin 4 роки тому

      I forget which way but I think it was inthe down position, it is actually putting strain on the pins, hence this whole issue.. so loading without pushing down is arguably better on the pins. I could be getting it mixed up the other way around though. Or maybe it was in any position stress was put on the pins (compared to the famicom). Either way playing without pushing down is perfectly fine - it's a workaround I've been using for 20 years to get my NES to work (using a game genie as a passthrough).

  • @nilz91
    @nilz91 8 років тому +1

    my old famicom system is not powering up anymore. maybe i should try boiling it too.

    • @JeanRodo
      @JeanRodo 7 років тому

      Nilz hahahaha no but if it really isn't powering on it might need some new capacitors maybe :)

  • @hydr0center
    @hydr0center 8 років тому +1

    Where can I find that spray? the magic spray?

  • @mcomancen
    @mcomancen 8 років тому

    Hello , how can I fix corrupted image? Does the boiling method can fix it?

    • @8bitjunkie8
      @8bitjunkie8  8 років тому

      +Miguel Angel Ledezma boiling method or bending pins can fix corrupted image if that's the problem. It could be something else more serious like video memory chip being bad. But, boiling would be a good thing to try.

  • @jasonpittman3959
    @jasonpittman3959 6 років тому

    I just got done boiling the pin connector, took a safety pin and bent the pins back up some, game fits super snug now, but still wont play unless I hold the game in a certain position. I already snipped the lock on it as well. Its up and running atm, iv got a screwdriver shoved on top of the cart to keep it held into the position that it works in. if anyones got any tips for how to remedy this would be very helpful. whats the next step?

    • @8bitjunkie8
      @8bitjunkie8  6 років тому

      +Jason Pittman replace the connector

  • @doctorfeinstone6524
    @doctorfeinstone6524 7 років тому

    so you're supposed to boil for 15 minutes? I thought it was only 3. maybe that's why it didn't work

  • @angelflores6611
    @angelflores6611 8 років тому

    what type of contact cleaner do you use? I just recently got a very dirty NES and for some reason sometimes it work like a charm and most of the time i get a grey screen. Nice video by the way.

  • @danielali7832
    @danielali7832 7 років тому

    thank you I get a NES an the red lights keep blinking so I don't have to keep get a new 72pin ever time

  • @Zestypanda
    @Zestypanda 8 років тому +3

    You took 41 minutes showing something that would take 10 minutes to show. Your repeatidly pushing the cart in and out and pressing on it and wiggling it isn't how to test a game. Who grabs the cart and wiggles it once you have it inserted and turned on? Moving the cart while power is applied increases the chance of a short and damaging either the system or the cart, or worse, both!

    • @8bitjunkie8
      @8bitjunkie8  8 років тому +5

      +Zestypanda true; my newer videos are much shorter. Cart wiggling? Old trick from the 80s. No carts were harmed in the making of this video.

    • @Zestypanda
      @Zestypanda 8 років тому +1

      8bitjunkie Well, when I would play the games I wouldn't grab them and move them once they were in and I saw that they were working.

    • @anodecurrent
      @anodecurrent 8 років тому +1

      +Zestypanda yup, that's a real nice way to make the system worse. Good one buddy

    • @Ninja_Gaijin
      @Ninja_Gaijin 8 років тому +1

      +anodecurrent really? I've always had to fiddle a bit at the moment .. as I still haven't cleaned internally. I popped open my NES Cleaning Kit but lazy .. will recondition the connector if I can too .. just busy hacking my xbox xD

  • @ursusAmericanus
    @ursusAmericanus 7 років тому

    Rather than boiling mine, I just cleaned it and pulled the pins up, and I found that the games do work when I put the cartridge in but don't push it down

    • @bc454irocz89
      @bc454irocz89 Рік тому

      Yeah that's what happened to mine, I'll never bend another one, it's ruined, not supposed to work that way. Too tight. Going to buy a replacement

  • @franco7363
    @franco7363 9 років тому

    Is the contact cleaner better than using alcohol for cleaning the contacts?

    • @8bitjunkie8
      @8bitjunkie8  9 років тому

      vectorsan probably. obviously contact cleaner is specifically made for.. cleaning contacts. It also dries much faster than alcohol and leaves almost no residue (less residue than alcohol). However, alcohol works pretty well too. If you use alcohol, use 90% or higher isopropanol if you can get it. Never use alcohol labeled "rubbing alcohol" which has a bunch of additives in it (at least in the United States)

    • @darkmagician135
      @darkmagician135 9 років тому

      8bitjunkie I thought alcohol would be good to use too, since that's what you use while building computer parts, but the back of NES cartridges specifically say not to use alcohol.

    • @8bitjunkie8
      @8bitjunkie8  9 років тому

      yes, it does say that, but I think they meant for cleaning the outside. but even then, I have no idea why they wrote that warning label; alcohol doesn't seem to hurt even the label.

    • @Darko1226
      @Darko1226 3 місяці тому

      @@8bitjunkie8They wrote that warning so they can sell you their “alcohol” with the nes cleaning cart lol

  • @user-wj9xq7ig2v
    @user-wj9xq7ig2v 4 роки тому

    Blinky red light on the game that didn't work after bending the pins makes me think cic chip.

  • @skeggjoldgunnr3167
    @skeggjoldgunnr3167 8 років тому

    A sweeping frequency heated ultrasonic cleaner with a solution of bar keepers friend and distilled water works best. Chase it with 91% alcohol and done.

    • @Ninja_Gaijin
      @Ninja_Gaijin 4 роки тому

      wish I had an ultrasonic for vinyl records frankly

  • @fabuloso7176
    @fabuloso7176 7 років тому +1

    man handles everything

    • @8bitjunkie8
      @8bitjunkie8  7 років тому +1

      apparently. how does manny handle things?

  • @2309baker
    @2309baker 8 років тому +16

    wrong wrong wrong!
    Blow in the cartridge till your lungs are empty, put the cassette in, smack the console a few times and she'll work like on her first day!. done

    • @sparksthedaytrader9606
      @sparksthedaytrader9606 8 років тому

      Cartridge not cassete

    • @aquadonkey.
      @aquadonkey. 8 років тому

      whats the difference?

    • @sparksthedaytrader9606
      @sparksthedaytrader9606 8 років тому

      Cassette doesn't have rom or ram

    • @aquadonkey.
      @aquadonkey. 8 років тому +1

      The more you know.
      * rainbow+ magic sounds

    • @retroand
      @retroand 4 роки тому

      A cassette is a magnetic tape, while a cartridge is a board containing at least two ROMs and sometimes a mappers, sram and even some battery. And no, not everything is solved by blowing (who do really think that, anyway?). This connector is a design flaw made by Nintendo trying to conceal a video game console as a more serious device, such as a VHS tape reader. It is some kind of ZIF and yes, over time it ceases to make contact causing the console to fail even if the active components are all working flawlessly.

  • @trooper427ss
    @trooper427ss 6 років тому

    That's how tight it is on the Retrousb AVS.

  • @chrismc410
    @chrismc410 4 роки тому

    Wouldn't simply buying a new connector be easier and cheaper in the short and long run? I couldn't justify the time energy boiling and bending pins knowing $10-$20 for a replacement pin assembly will fix it faster and cheaper time wise.
    A top-loading NES also will fix the problem as Nintendo recognized the original console had the problem and redesigned it to load from the top to eliminate the problem.
    Every subsequent cartridge system Nintendo made loaded from the top from the SNES to the N64 learning from the original NES

    • @Ninja_Gaijin
      @Ninja_Gaijin 4 роки тому

      new 3rd party connectors aren't as good

    • @brandonkick
      @brandonkick 4 роки тому

      As another person stated, 3rd party connectors are made of cheap pot metal and might cause corrode causing damage to carts. Real OEM connectors are of much higher quality, they just get dirty and lose tensioning causing them to not make solid contact.
      A top loading NES, which it would techincally solve the issue, go for well in excess of $100 and they are RF only... not even composite.

  • @Explore531
    @Explore531 7 років тому

    I dont think its the 72 pin connector mybe clean the cart-ages instead

  • @truthfulrobot9295
    @truthfulrobot9295 6 років тому

    If that doesnt work? What else can it be??

    • @8bitjunkie8
      @8bitjunkie8  6 років тому +1

      Mr. Chihuahua if you’ve tried replacing the connector and it still won’t work, it could be some of the chips on the motherboard. Check the gametechus channel for some videos on that.

    • @truthfulrobot9295
      @truthfulrobot9295 6 років тому

      @@8bitjunkie8 cool, will do brother. Thanks

  • @MultiTechnicss
    @MultiTechnicss 9 років тому +2

    One thing is sure, I won't let you my games in your hand oufffffff..

  • @nexusofice9135
    @nexusofice9135 7 років тому +7

    informative video but WAY TOO LONG. you could of condensed down that video down to just highlights and it be just as informative.

    • @stripcam
      @stripcam 7 років тому +3

      i enjoy the lengthy videos when i just want to escape from the day to day bullshit that happens in life .... let's not be hasty ?

  • @drewbeyer9758
    @drewbeyer9758 8 років тому +1

    dude why would you put dirty games in a clean connector, make sure they're clean before inserting! rookie move!

  • @morganmetzger5832
    @morganmetzger5832 8 років тому

    Boiling plastic seems like a bad idea. Why boil? If it's the dirty metal then you should use alcohol. If it's the pins then you should bend them with a dental pick. Then sometimes the weirdest thing I find is the screws that hold the loader in place are a magic part of the equation. If you keep the front ones looser then the game clicks down better, and if you keep the rear ones looser the game plays when pressed down rather than when it is standing straight up. The nes is finicky. I just don't get the boiling. I'd be more inclined to stick it in a sonic vibration bath meant for small jewelry before a stove. Unless it's the heat which bends the pins.

    • @8bitjunkie8
      @8bitjunkie8  8 років тому

      it isn't anything to do with cleaning. I had already cleaned the pins several times with contact cleaner. it seems that the heat bends the pins. I emailed a materials scientist that specializes in spring steel and he thought this was plausible.
      the boiling point of water is under the temperature that could damage the plastic.
      bending with a dental pick seems to be required if the pins are way too loose - boiling will improve them, but not enough. boiling is faster and easier so it's worth a try first before you break out the dental pick.
      I think you are right about the screw tension - that seems to matter.
      I'd like to try out the ultrasonic cleaner.

    • @morganmetzger5832
      @morganmetzger5832 8 років тому

      Ah the heat. The heat would reset the work hardened value of the metal if it got hot enough making it almost like new. However, it would do awful things for the workings of the plastic if boiled enough. But it's not like you'll boil 5 plus times probably on the same one.
      Haha an ultra sonic bath on them would be awesome to see in action. I bet it would clean the nes game pins on a cart really really really well.

  • @rapturas
    @rapturas 7 років тому

    never in my life have i heard someone suggest boiling metal components.

  • @Bryan88pgt
    @Bryan88pgt 8 років тому

    clean the pin with hot soapy water, scrup with tooth brush, dry with hair dryer= working game, boiling is too hot

  • @ItsMeJbird
    @ItsMeJbird 9 років тому

    I bought a new 72 pin and the eraser to clean and polish the games, no problems after. Try it, you will be surprised.

    • @8bitjunkie8
      @8bitjunkie8  9 років тому

      +Bandit how long have you had the new 72 pin?

    • @ItsMeJbird
      @ItsMeJbird 9 років тому

      +8bitjunkie Had it about a month now, works great, most of the games you don't have to push the tray down, nice tight fit

    • @ItsMeJbird
      @ItsMeJbird 9 років тому

      +Bandit To tell you the truth, don't get the Original 72 and the New 72 mixed up, I got confused, the only way I could tell the difference was the New 72 was tight

  • @SamuraiXGray
    @SamuraiXGray 9 років тому +3

    Clean the games!

  • @attila7092
    @attila7092 8 років тому

    Ok...got it all done. Now all I'm getting is a black screen.

  • @N64player1996
    @N64player1996 9 років тому +1

    Great video man thank you.

    • @8bitjunkie8
      @8bitjunkie8  9 років тому +1

      Lenny Micheloni thank you! and you're welcome.

  • @ChrisGhysel
    @ChrisGhysel 9 років тому

    Buy the nintendo bits and open up your cartridges to clean them decently...

  • @JuanDiaz-jo1rw
    @JuanDiaz-jo1rw 4 роки тому

    Why you put the games in so ruff man.. Zelda was working fine..

  • @elessar5848
    @elessar5848 3 роки тому

    dont push the cart down. it wil prolong this fix

  • @DannyCD
    @DannyCD 7 років тому

    Just disable the 10NES chip. Blinking light solved. Such an easy mod yet there's so many people unwilling to do it. "Bleh, I want to keep my console original, bla bla bla".

    • @briansegarra9312
      @briansegarra9312 7 років тому

      Danny C. i did once and idk why it haved worse reading game ratio , even after cleaning the games and pin connector and boiling , so I just resoldered the pin back and i works better idk why but it happened to me

    • @briansegarra9312
      @briansegarra9312 7 років тому

      Maybe , idk I just sold that nes ,i have another one that is completly original and it works great thanks anyways

    • @DannyCD
      @DannyCD 7 років тому

      Sounds like it's time for you to just get an entirely new 72 pin ZIF connector. Despite all the claims, boiling it doesn't permanently fix it. I've never heard of the 10NES chip making it worse for games to work when disabled but then making them work more often again when re-enabled. Either it was a placebo effect or the connection to your carts just coincidentally started to get better after you re-soldered the pin back. Or there's another factor, you could've ended up putting the 72 pin connector back onto the motherboard with a better connection after you re-soldered the pin. It all really comes down to how well the games and the motherboard are making contact with the ZIF connector.

    • @DannyCD
      @DannyCD 7 років тому

      Brian Segarra Ah ok, that's good. If you ever have problems with your games not working again, I suggest getting the Blinking Light Win. It replaces the ZIF socket with a cartridge connector similar to the Top Loader and it defeats the lockout chip without you having to cut pin 4 of it.

    • @briansegarra9312
      @briansegarra9312 7 років тому

      Danny C. yes im looking foward to one , but for my brother nes thanks again :)

  • @miguelcepeda3768
    @miguelcepeda3768 7 років тому

    It's probably caused by the 10 nes chip

  • @clyth41
    @clyth41 8 років тому

    Dude brill video but please try to equalise your sound between two parts of your video one is low and second part is loud...

    • @8bitjunkie8
      @8bitjunkie8  8 років тому

      +jess abell thanks. I made this video a long time ago and I'm pretty sure I got a new microphone between the first part and second part.

  • @seta-san2149
    @seta-san2149 4 роки тому

    Just buy new ones. They aren't expensive. Avoid the aggravation.

  • @isac7579
    @isac7579 8 років тому

    Temperature? Of the stove-top.

    • @8bitjunkie8
      @8bitjunkie8  8 років тому +1

      +Isac Embree it doesn't matter as long as the water is boiling and you don't run out of water. High-ish

    • @briantaylor512
      @briantaylor512 4 роки тому

      Water boils at 212°F

  • @wtsig76
    @wtsig76 9 років тому

    I think ice hockey works

  • @raycoleman8652
    @raycoleman8652 8 років тому +1

    Great video.

  • @mimi2
    @mimi2 8 років тому +2

    this is fake. you made the after video before making pin 72 pasta that mario ate and enjoyed. like blowing into it make it moisturised, making it rust faster and this, well you will have super tetanus brothers XD for real, just call the number on the back or take it to a repair shop like game stop.

  • @mefugoenmicarro
    @mefugoenmicarro 6 років тому

    love your t-s

  • @Guythatknowsitall88
    @Guythatknowsitall88 9 років тому

    The pins aren't the problem you need to by pass/disable the 10NES chip. The blinking screen problem has been going on since day one. It hasn't gotten any worse as its all in your head...we live in a faster pace world compared to when we were kids. Improving the pin contact just slightly increases the chances that the 10nes lockout won't reset the system(aka produce the blinking screen.) Just disable the 10nes chip and you will be better than new. Look up on youtube for the 2 wire method I use.

    • @8bitjunkie8
      @8bitjunkie8  9 років тому

      +Guythatknowsitall88 if you disable the 10NES chip but still have a bad connection, you just get the grey/brown screen. Disabling the 10NES seems unnecessary most of the time unless you want to play games from Japan etc.

    • @8bitjunkie8
      @8bitjunkie8  9 років тому

      +Guythatknowsitall88 I like the 2 wire method though. Do you have a schematic that shows what is actually being done there?

    • @Guythatknowsitall88
      @Guythatknowsitall88 9 років тому

      8bitjunkie The NES is terrible at starting up games...even license game due to this chip being so picky on the signal...even when the game would have worked fine. I use to spend 10 minutes or more trying to get a license game to start and now I can get them to start after 1 to 2 tries so far (less than 10 seconds.) This is part of the reason the chip was removed in the model 2 NES and why it startups games better. I am not saying that pins can't be the problem because they maybe part of it however I am confident in saying that bypassing the 10nes chip may be more productive than replacing the pins...and this is from my experience.

    • @Guythatknowsitall88
      @Guythatknowsitall88 9 років тому +1

      8bitjunkie Glad you like it. Unfortunately I don't have schematics. As said in the description I was trying to find another alternative other than actually breaking the chip risking damage to other parts and such. I just merely came across a picture of this mod on a message board. I googled to find more information on it but I couldn't find any. I went on a limb and gave it a try and it worked that motherboard had similar layout. I did it on another NES that had the other motherboard layout and after examining the circuit I found were in theory it would work. Fortunately for me on both counts it worked flawlessly. Because there was nothing more than 1 picture on the internet showing this mod I thought I share it to increase awareness of this other option.

    • @Zestypanda
      @Zestypanda 8 років тому +1

      +Guythatknowsitall88 Honestly what you're describing would most likely be fixed by doing the pins.

  • @theretrobro
    @theretrobro 5 років тому

    Just buy a new connector for 10 bucks on Amazon lol... or disable the lockout chip

    • @JG-vh6mn
      @JG-vh6mn 3 роки тому

      The China crap connectors have the wrong tolerances. You have to get pliers to get the cartridge blackout.

  • @NINJA4RL
    @NINJA4RL 8 років тому

    the audio sucks on the vids ive watched so far

    • @8bitjunkie8
      @8bitjunkie8  8 років тому

      thanks for letting me know. the audio in this video should change at about 3:30. Besides the beginning of this one, I think the rest of my HD videos should all be using my current mic/camera setup. Have the videos you watched been in SD? In the HD videos you've watched, what don't you like about the audio? I'll try to fix it in my future videos.

    • @NINJA4RL
      @NINJA4RL 8 років тому

      only watched a few. i didnt leave thumbs down. your effort is much appreciated. watched this one in 480p which is where my laptop likes to run but other vids i watched were only available at less resolution. i did notice audio pick up a bit later in this one

  • @TofuTehSurvivor
    @TofuTehSurvivor 9 років тому

    Please, stop pushing the cart down. It's a completely unnecessary step. I'm cringing every time you push them down and keep messing with them. 6:40

    • @TofuTehSurvivor
      @TofuTehSurvivor 9 років тому +2

      +Nicolas Melia Welp, time to invest in a "Blinking Light Win." :D

    • @Zestypanda
      @Zestypanda 8 років тому +2

      You have to push them down in OEM systems. The tray you slide them into has a spring that has to be pressed down.

  • @joe241able
    @joe241able Рік тому

    buy a new 72pin lol

  • @princeharbinger
    @princeharbinger 7 років тому

    Hi, @8bitjunkie is it normal after cleaning the pin connector for some of clean pins to show some brass in color? Will the games still read if some brass is showing?

    • @8bitjunkie8
      @8bitjunkie8  7 років тому +1

      clean how? sandpaper? you may be taking some plating off the pins - not sure. Games will probably still read, but the pins might re-oxidize faster if the plating has been removed (assuming that it's plating - I don't really know).