Excellent and and a totally true rendition of the facts! Superbly well presented by the charming and serious lady speaker! There should be subtitles in Spanish, Portuguese, French, Chinese and Arabic as well. I am happy to have been a member of Survival International almost since I first stayed in 1972 with indigenous people of the Southern Highlands in Papua Niugini (then still a protectorate of Australia). Don't let me digress and start talking about the tragic fate of the indigenous Tasmanians! However, one myth -not mentioed- is that uncontacted people do not fight with neighbouring tribes and never exploit Nature. They often do (both). Tribals of PNG (Papua Niugini) have since time immemorial fought out battles with neighbouring tribes for a variety of reassons. They are therefore morally not any better (or more advanced or kinder) than others, including us 'Westerners'. They also do not necessarily preserve Nature and its resources any better than others: a case in point is the extermination of the moa birds in New Zealand by the Maori or the destruction of the forests on Rapanui (Easter Island) by its Polynesian inhabitants. However, that just serves to underline that they are human and that their societies and cultures have the same 'rights' to exist and make mistakes than any other culture.
Great post Meyrow. I am doing a bit background checking as I just recently started to exchange my international consulting sessions for clients' donation towards SI. Glad to hear someone critical as you being such a long time supporter. As to your comment some thoughts: Any culture can fall into a cycle of entropic behaviour beyond a point of no return. As a german who lived long in Bolivia working in and/or next to all sorts of development projects before moving to NZ and after decades here becoming an indigenous ancestor I see it as quite a dynamic mix: All humans have a drive for POWER maximisation. We are all hard wired for it. some ( mostly men) more than others. We are agents for Entropy. We have evolved into an organism which derives energy by burning something and we love it. And the more we burn at once the more powerful we feel and become. We reshaped ecosystems. Some cultures were able to come to their sense when they over stepped the carrying capacity of their novel ecosystem. however on a small island such as Rapanui there was no return and in other cultures that could not hide out from invaders who were not interested in their self inflicted restraint there was no point to preserve (europe). After a balance was found in pre settler Aboriginal society somone who over exploited a hunting ground might have got speared, in our western society if you overexploit an ecosystem you get a Tesla , a jet or a yacht. Nothing genetic, mere cultural. Once the cultural code is weakened it will be the young men getting lured by devices that increase power and will get corrupted easily in any culture or race. Gun, phone, motorbike, outboard, truck. They need to join a monetary economy to pay for consumables or loose that power and status. I have worked with an Amazonian tribe who sold some of their last big trees to loggers for a set of soccer shirts for the village. Not much left for hunting either. However as long as they own the tribal land it will not turn into a soybean dessert to feed vegans in NZ. K
@@permadynamicsnewzealand2698 ranting against vegans for soy use is not appropriate. Humans digest vastly less soy than cattle, pigs and poultry are forced to. I think less than 1/10000. In the Netherlands, there are more than 10x more meat animals than humans. A much larger percentage of their diet consists of say. The conversion from soy to meat is 1/5 - 1/8. Organic soy products in Europe are made with soy that's grown in Europe, so no Amazon damage at all. Meat eaters, milk drinkers on the other hand...
@@robekrybek5654 Survival International Español and Survival International Brasil are working on subbed versions right now! Follow their pages on social media to see these versions once ready and published.
Excellent video. Uncontacted tribes are real, and they have to be respected and left alone. You can't force your ways on others it's just plain wrong. I don't like people who have no respect for other people's traditions or ways of life. Uncontacted tribes have been living their own ways for thousands of years we can't expect them to change especially overnight. And they're not immune to any modern-day diseases so, I say. Now leave all uncontacted tribes alone especially my favorite the Sentinelese. The Sentinelese live on North Sentinel Island and every time someone goes near their shore or right up to their island that someone gets hit with a hail of arrows and spears.
Often times the chiefs of uncontacted tribes have put together travel parties from their tribe to go out to river trade routes in order to make contact with outsiders, hoping for medicine and tools. This is in order to save their tribes of dwindling numbers due to sickness and hunger. A Brazilian anthropologist once said something that changed minds about contact. He said, “who are we to withhold progress from them if they are out seeking it?” So in contrast to leaving them uncontacted as “we” think is in their best interest, they may feel they are ready for contact in order to progress. They must be able to decide for themselves. We have simple medicines that can bring them great relief and save lives. If they ask. On a side note, missionaries have been the number one source of help to tribal chiefs to teach them how to represent themselves before their local governments in order to legally mark territorial lines and protect their tribal lands.
not quite clear about resulting strategy...certainly depends on country. In addition: fight missionaries? Oil multies? Or consumer boycot of tropical hardwood?
@@darcyperkins7041 my question was inspired by the video....Trying to film the poor last Indian of an extinct tribe does not make much sense, but certainly generates clicks
Not always. For example, the Andaman and Nicobar Islands are union territories under the Republic of India and most of the tribes have been or are being wiped out systematically for their lands.
Is there a movement to raise £billions to buy the land these people live on - then to give it to them in law in trust so they 'legally' own their land and will be protected? (The current situation seems to be no legal rights, then cattle ranchers and companies sweep in, then claim legal ownership over 'un owned' land where these people live.
Do these tribes ALSO have the right to join the rest o fthe world if they wish? Because it seems when they do, it slaps our Noble Savage trope down and we make them stay in the woods.
They definitely have the right to make contact if they wish to, but it absolutely must be their own, free choice. If a people chooses to make contact with wider society, they’ll find a way. That said, in the vast majority of cases, where people have made contact, they've died shortly after, or get long-lasting illnesses from that contact. In some cases, people who have recently made contact decide to return to the forest and cut contact with the outside world. This happened for example with the two Awá sisters, Jakarewyj and Amakaria, who were forced to make contact with settled Awá in 2014, as they were surrounded by loggers and had contracted flu and tuberculosis to which they had no resistance. However, they decided they preferred to live in the forest, even with the threats surrounding them.
One piece of this story is missing: their ancient wisdom is the key to our future survival if we can earn their respect and trust for just long enough to receive some knowledge from their teachings about how to live with the land, not on it.
At 2.50 another myth is perpetuated, that we have no immunity against sarscov2 virus, most of us do, average age of death is around 80! That these tribal people are vulnerable i do believe however. For the record, the ordinary flu killed around 8000 people in the netherlands in 2017/8....Hospitals were overflowing. Nothing was done to increase capacity, everything was done to decreas capacity...costcutting they said. I wish all people great health and freedom. Regards, Erik the Netherlands
"For the record", Erik, you're wrong about increasing and decreasing capacity. You go against the facts. And besides that, increasing hospital capacity and staff can n e v e r be enough for exponential spread of a virus.
Excellent video. Thank you Survival International.
We're glad you like the video!
Really important as well👍
Excellent and and a totally true rendition of the facts! Superbly well presented by the charming and serious lady speaker! There should be subtitles in Spanish, Portuguese, French, Chinese and Arabic as well. I am happy to have been a member of Survival International almost since I first stayed in 1972 with indigenous people of the Southern Highlands in Papua Niugini (then still a protectorate of Australia). Don't let me digress and start talking about the tragic fate of the indigenous Tasmanians! However, one myth -not mentioed- is that uncontacted people do not fight with neighbouring tribes and never exploit Nature. They often do (both). Tribals of PNG (Papua Niugini) have since time immemorial fought out battles with neighbouring tribes for a variety of reassons. They are therefore morally not any better (or more advanced or kinder) than others, including us 'Westerners'. They also do not necessarily preserve Nature and its resources any better than others: a case in point is the extermination of the moa birds in New Zealand by the Maori or the destruction of the forests on Rapanui (Easter Island) by its Polynesian inhabitants. However, that just serves to underline that they are human and that their societies and cultures have the same 'rights' to exist and make mistakes than any other culture.
Thanks for your many years of support! The video will soon be posted in other languages too.
Great post Meyrow. I am doing a bit background checking as I just recently started to exchange my international consulting sessions for clients' donation towards SI. Glad to hear someone critical as you being such a long time supporter.
As to your comment some thoughts:
Any culture can fall into a cycle of entropic behaviour beyond a point of no return. As a german who lived long in Bolivia working in and/or next to all sorts of development projects before moving to NZ and after decades here becoming an indigenous ancestor I see it as quite a dynamic mix:
All humans have a drive for POWER maximisation. We are all hard wired for it. some ( mostly men) more than others. We are agents for Entropy. We have evolved into an organism which derives energy by burning something and we love it. And the more we burn at once the more powerful we feel and become. We reshaped ecosystems.
Some cultures were able to come to their sense when they over stepped the carrying capacity of their novel ecosystem. however on a small island such as Rapanui there was no return and in other cultures that could not hide out from invaders who were not interested in their self inflicted restraint there was no point to preserve (europe).
After a balance was found in pre settler Aboriginal society somone who over exploited a hunting ground might have got speared, in our western society if you overexploit an ecosystem you get a Tesla , a jet or a yacht.
Nothing genetic, mere cultural. Once the cultural code is weakened it will be the young men getting lured by devices that increase power and will get corrupted easily in any culture or race. Gun, phone, motorbike, outboard, truck. They need to join a monetary economy to pay for consumables or loose that power and status.
I have worked with an Amazonian tribe who sold some of their last big trees to loggers for a set of soccer shirts for the village. Not much left for hunting either. However as long as they own the tribal land it will not turn into a soybean dessert to feed vegans in NZ.
K
@@survivalinternational all I can say to anyone who wishes to contact them is to leave them alone. 😡😠😤
@@permadynamicsnewzealand2698entropy isnt about destruction but about hoe spread out energy is.
@@permadynamicsnewzealand2698 ranting against vegans for soy use is not appropriate. Humans digest vastly less soy than cattle, pigs and poultry are forced to. I think less than 1/10000.
In the Netherlands, there are more than 10x more meat animals than humans.
A much larger percentage of their diet consists of say.
The conversion from soy to meat is 1/5 - 1/8.
Organic soy products in Europe are made with soy that's grown in Europe, so no Amazon damage at all.
Meat eaters, milk drinkers on the other hand...
Amazing! This would be super useful to have with Spanish subtitles, too!
Portuguesse, too.
@@robekrybek5654 Survival International Español and Survival International Brasil are working on subbed versions right now! Follow their pages on social media to see these versions once ready and published.
in my android youtube version there is an option 4 automatic translation in the subtitle menu
Thanks for this important video! (Shared by a friend of mine who always was extremely interested in the Indians in the Amazonas...)
Love this!! Thank you for your critical work. Sharing!!
Excellent video. Uncontacted tribes are real, and they have to be respected and left alone. You can't force your ways on others it's just plain wrong. I don't like people who have no respect for other people's traditions or ways of life. Uncontacted tribes have been living their own ways for thousands of years we can't expect them to change especially overnight. And they're not immune to any modern-day diseases so, I say. Now leave all uncontacted tribes alone especially my favorite the Sentinelese.
The Sentinelese live on North Sentinel Island and every time someone goes near their shore or right up to their island that someone gets hit with a hail of arrows and spears.
Thank You.
lovely & thanks so much for all yous do
Often times the chiefs of uncontacted tribes have put together travel parties from their tribe to go out to river trade routes in order to make contact with outsiders, hoping for medicine and tools. This is in order to save their tribes of dwindling numbers due to sickness and hunger. A Brazilian anthropologist once said something that changed minds about contact. He said, “who are we to withhold progress from them if they are out seeking it?” So in contrast to leaving them uncontacted as “we” think is in their best interest, they may feel they are ready for contact in order to progress. They must be able to decide for themselves. We have simple medicines that can bring them great relief and save lives. If they ask.
On a side note, missionaries have been the number one source of help to tribal chiefs to teach them how to represent themselves before their local governments in order to legally mark territorial lines and protect their tribal lands.
Exactly what she said.
Would you like me to contribute and translate the subtitles to Polish?
Thanks Sylwia. Please could you email us at info@survivalinternational.org? Thanks.
@@survivalinternational I did actually, 2 days ago, but still no reply 😔
not quite clear about resulting strategy...certainly depends on country. In addition: fight missionaries? Oil multies? Or consumer boycot of tropical hardwood?
The video is about myths, not campaign strategies.
@@darcyperkins7041 my question was inspired by the video....Trying to film the poor last Indian of an extinct tribe does not make much sense, but certainly generates clicks
and Portuguese
Yes - being posted in Portuguese shortly. Follow Survival International Brasil for the video with subtitles.
They are sovereign nations, aren't they?
Not always. For example, the Andaman and Nicobar Islands are union territories under the Republic of India and most of the tribes have been or are being wiped out systematically for their lands.
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After the past 3 years i can see why they would want to be left alone. 😢😥😷
My little sister just did a DNA test & we found out that we are part Mexican native. ♥️
Tonks is here..
Is there a movement to raise £billions to buy the land these people live on - then to give it to them in law in trust so they 'legally' own their land and will be protected? (The current situation seems to be no legal rights, then cattle ranchers and companies sweep in, then claim legal ownership over 'un owned' land where these people live.
Mankind itself is an uncontacted tribe in the Universe!
Uncontacted civilisation. There's a huge difference.
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Was the pixellation to protect their modesty or ours?
We use the same video on social media, where unfortunately Facebook/ Instagram insists on it....
@@jmazower How narrow-mindedly evangelical.
Do these tribes ALSO have the right to join the rest o fthe world if they wish? Because it seems when they do, it slaps our Noble Savage trope down and we make them stay in the woods.
They definitely have the right to make contact if they wish to, but it absolutely must be their own, free choice. If a people chooses to make contact with wider society, they’ll find a way.
That said, in the vast majority of cases, where people have made contact, they've died shortly after, or get long-lasting illnesses from that contact.
In some cases, people who have recently made contact decide to return to the forest and cut contact with the outside world. This happened for example with the two Awá sisters, Jakarewyj and Amakaria, who were forced to make contact with settled Awá in 2014, as they were surrounded by loggers and had contracted flu and tuberculosis to which they had no resistance. However, they decided they preferred to live in the forest, even with the threats surrounding them.
They have every right to go about their lives as they so choose.
I've yet to figure out why so many people are uncomfortable with this.
One piece of this story is missing: their ancient wisdom is the key to our future survival if we can earn their respect and trust for just long enough to receive some knowledge from their teachings about how to live with the land, not on it.
Myth List Busted
At 2.50 another myth is perpetuated, that we have no immunity against sarscov2 virus, most of us do, average age of death is around 80! That these tribal people are vulnerable i do believe however. For the record, the ordinary flu killed around 8000 people in the netherlands in 2017/8....Hospitals were overflowing. Nothing was done to increase capacity, everything was done to decreas capacity...costcutting they said. I wish all people great health and freedom. Regards, Erik the Netherlands
Does anyone know who margarita duarte is? She accused me of bellybutton staring. Wonder what made her think that? Margarita, are you there? Erik
another schitzo post
"For the record", Erik, you're wrong about increasing and decreasing capacity. You go against the facts.
And besides that, increasing hospital capacity and staff can n e v e r be enough for exponential spread of a virus.
Hi Het, so its not true we (the netherlands) went from 2200 IC beds to around 900?
Hi Het, so its not true we (the netherlands) went from 2200 IC beds to around 900?