An often overlooked aspect is that Jon Jones never faces severe repercussions for his misdeeds which largely contributes to him not taking responsibility and changing his behaviour. The UFC are willing to give him a pass because they are so blinded by his money-making potential. The fact that he still has a driver's licence after all his reckless driving behaviour is absurd.
He was raised by a pastor but he has no sense of the dignity and discipline that comes with being religious, or even being a trained martial artist. Dudes just a mess
Bro the “Dagstani grind” has nothing to do with it lmao. The problem wasn’t that jones didn’t grind hard. He worked his ass off, even harder than Khabib. The problem was when he wasn’t grinding in camp, he struggled with mental health and addiction issues. He said himself that he was molested as a kid. Combine that with the death of his Mom and sister, and the pressure of being a young athlete, and there’s no wonder why he struggles with addiction. Not that I excuse his actions because of that tho.
@@GuyWithAPS5 Yeah but if he had the dignity and discipline that comes with being religious, he wouldn’t be a martial artist in the first place. His dad never wanted him to fight. If he listened to his dad and retired when his mom died in 2017, he’d probably be a lot happier. Unlike Khabib who kept his promise and gave up fighting once his dad died. That’s probably why Khabib is not as depressed, because he chose not to repress his trauma with addiction and keep fighting like Jon.
@@jayquellin6583 Other than perhaps Tony, nobody worked harder than Khabib. Jon was always the type to slack off in training at times and take shortcuts by using PEDs to more than make up for any lost time.
I think they do it because Bones "never" lost, and TJ had lost before popping. Those fans are fickle and spiteful losers. They think being undefeated in matches is a measure of pure skill or something. The minute Bones loses a fight without controversy they'll act like they never knew him.
4:45 wtf are you talking about that was DC that said that to Jon not Jon saying it to DC. DC said it then Jon said he'd kill him if he'd ever do anything like that.
No disrespect but you made a false ass statement around the beginning. It was DC that said he wanted to spit in jons face not the other way around, which then jon proceeded to say he will kill DC
Some people really forget Demetrious Johnson and how he truly was the goat, barely defeated, never cheated, always respectful, but nah yall forget him because he didn’t talk all the chata chata
And sadly thats why no one talks about him which is fucking unfortunate. It hurts how underrated Mighty Mouse is. Though I like the fact that recently there’s been a couple of Mighty Mouse docu vids popping up
Jon Jones is a very scary person to me. Physically, yes, but mostly mentally. Something about the clear lack of remorse in all of his actions, the unparalleled malicious assuredness in every word he says, the clear fact he only ever regrets getting caught. I think he may legitimately be a sociopath
Looking at all those traits you've metioned plus the fact that he can lie without hesitation and doesn't seem to feel empathy he probably is a psychopath
It’s crazy to see how much time he’s missed in his prime as well from all his dumb antics. The guy easily could have gone and been 35+ wins by now if he had remained clean and strayed away from any problems in his personal life. Kind of crazy to think many see him as one of the best already and if he had been clean and never had any problems, he may have been just in general one of the greatest athletes we have ever seen….
despite missing alot of time he achieves alot still which shows his ridicolous talent but its sad to see that he has a bad mindset. The way it's looking is that if he doesn't fix his bad antics then after he retires from UFC his life will keep going downhill to the point of no return
I disagree, if he wasn’t on gear he’d have multiple losses, I mean he got beat by Reyes and ran from the division, since then Reyes keeps getting finished… Jones knows Jiri would stop him
I recently saw a clip of Jon saying how he would get drunk and party a week before his fight because in his mind he could use that as an excuse if he lost the fight 💀.
@@PresidentEvil They fought in Texas and Texas used the old United rules for judging in MMA in 2020. According to that scoring criteria, Jones should have lost. He lost either way tho. With the modern judging criteria he would’ve certainly lost too.
@@OnlyOneHunnids do u guys got any moral values? It’d be one thing for him to fuck up once or twice and acknowledge it and try to be better. But to just not give a shit and willingly be a horrible person is another. The guy is a selfish sociopath. U just gonna overlook all of that cuz he’s good in the octagon. I mean cmon bro. This isn’t even about accusations. There is hard evidence of him doing this. Maybe he’s finally changed now but beating your wife in-front of your daughter is damn near unforgivable
Yeah I don’t like the narrative that Jones instigated any of this because he did not and was simply reacting to somebody being extremely disrespectful to him. Jones never hated DC, it was always Daniel trying to grab his throat or spit on him or assault Jon in some manner. 90% of people would react the same if someone did that to them.
@@DADRB0B55 I get what ur saying but I think jones technically started the beef. He went up to dc in person and said sommit like ‘you look like a wrestler, get cauliflower on your other ear then maybe you can get a takedown on me’ and dc took this the wrong way obviously
@@cringemaxxing28 never popped but possible tbh. The only issue with DJ is that his resume doesn't look as cool with how few champions are on there. Couldn't blame him tho tbh. He was there when the division was created and was too good to let anyone else become a champion. If DJ came back and Beat Moreno and Figueiredo there would be no debate left.
@@smokecardboards Both are just to humble Especially DJ He refused to become a trash talker because he doesn't enjoy it and instead accepted getting switched against a trash talking clown and now fights on a high level in another organisation(btw he's gonna fight again soon so let's cheer him on🙂)
Problem is there's a lot of people out there who can't make the distinction that Jones is an actual real-life person, who's done real harm to real victims.
Jones changed the game, you can't even fight without cheating, they had to change the rules to allow his push kicks to the knee, Diaz asked what they hell, those used to be illegal. Jones has by far the most effective eye pokes the sport has ever seen. His savvy use of PEDs also changed the sport, USADA is a thing partially because of Jones and he still has a career because he was willing to tell on a bunch if people USADA wanted to actually go after. Jones has been nothing but bad for the sport, he should never have gotten as far as he has, but the UFC keeps winking at his eye pokes and push kicks to knee, being on roids this whole life, and having no value for lives other then his own. Jones most brutal stoppage in the last few years was against his spouse but that's still fine with the UFC
Great comment, the UFC pushed him so much higher than he deserves to be, I hope stipe knocks him out but unfortunately the heavyweight division is weak right now and stipe is old so I don’t see it honestly
You should bring up the controversy of the UFC moving an entire event to California because Jon pissed hot for that Alexander fight. The only two KO wins since 2013, he was on something. Also don't forget the eye pokes.
Jones , the biggest what if in mma. Like what if he never got arrested , what if he never tested positive, what if he didn’t lose two years in his prime. Yet he still has achieved so much , hard to believe he could’ve done so much more
I’ve said this before but I think the fact that he’s a cokehead is more significant than the steroids. Cocaine sends your adrenal glands berserk, and alters your pain tolerance. This is why crakcheads can do all the impossible shit they do, like run on no food, work all day, take a beating and keep moving etc . For me, Jones is maybe the most talented fighter ever, but this combined with the fact that he’s done so much steroids (they all do it, so if you’re doing so much that you can get caught twice, then you’re positively blasting it, since USADA is pretty easy to dupe), I can never 🐐 him. He’s a cheater through and through.
@@balt3562 never cheated, never lost. His 10 picograms he popped for twice isn't even tested by USADA anymore. His no contest against DC is going to be turned over into a win
@@thequinlanshow3326 He literally tested for steroids and multiple other PEDS in 3 instances. Yes 1 is for cocaine, but it doesn't explain the 3 instances of PEDs. That's instant disqualification from being great imo, especially when you consider guys these days aren't doing it
I wish people didn't call him a disappointment. The vast majority of people who watch the UFC now came in after he was already exposed as a terrible person. For the average UFC viewer he's not a disappointment, he's just a terrible person. Probably at least a third of all UFC viewers haven't even seen him fight.
Im glad you're doing these MMA videos. As a sport I like boxing, but there's too much bs and politics preventing it from being as enjoyable as it can so making MMA videos will definitely help your channels longevity and garner new viewers
You didn’t mention when he tested positive for the third time and they moved the entire event in order to make him fight in a state that would allow it despite the failed test. AND USADA after the fact that tried to come up with some kind of explanation, but didn’t care to do so for other athletes in similar situations. Still great video and thank you so much for your work, you really are an awesome channel!
Nice video but I still think you should have mentioned how UFC 232 had to be moved in less than a week from Las Vegas to L.A. due to Jones failing another drug test before his rematch with Gustafsson.
And the the multi drug failings before the Anthony fight. I am not buying that "pulsing" explanation because USADA is in the pocket for UFC and why just No Bones and not the other fighters who got popped? Not to mention UFC did not disclose Lestner's drug test results AFTER UFC 200 inspite of having the results before the event.
And even through all this shit, Jon Jones is STILL considered the greatest of all time. Even bigger flex cuz mans ain even try fr and took over the whole UFC
What’s sad is that he actively shoots his career to the stars every time he fights but continuously destroys his life with these horrible choices he makes. Jones has the chance to stand for something with the title fights. I recall Iron Mikes mentor once saying “fighting is the process of character building”. Maybe training with Henry can give him some needed insight and stability.
I get what you mean but Jon Jones is a psycho or a sociopath. Those eyes and lack of empathy are serious signs. I saw that post fight and that was like a psycho acting like he cared about another human lol
I guess what bothers me is the push he gets from the UFC. He can get suspended and/or take time off and then just come back and get an automatic title shot or contender match. Then he’ll sit there and act like he worked for it but sometimes it’s just been handed to him. I’m so surprised the UFC had put up with him despite how many violations he’s had in/out of the octagon, it’s just pretty much tarnished his legacy for some and has definitely shown the favoritism the sport has internally.
That's why I get so pissed when Jones fans complain about the UFC and Dana to pay him his worth... this dude has gotten away with some much crap that he should be kissing the UFCs feet for still letting him compete. This dude beat his wife bloody in front of his daughters that they called the cops and a year and half later... hes fighting for the undisputed HW world title with out fighting for 3 years
You're partially right about that. You have to remember Jones came back from multiple suspensions. Always fought top contenders or even extremely good champions like Daniel Cormier and always WON those fights. The man is just that skilled. Aside from his skills, his behavior hasn't been punished properly by the UFC, and that probably led him to believe he'll never face any consequence.
@@andreapedroni3256 won those fights Then tested positive for juice Juice Box Jones truly is on another level... when it comes to sucking up to Daddy Dana White to bail him out.
I think Jon Jones is still around the top 5 for sure together with Silva, GSP, Johnson and Aldo But if he is the goat or not depends on everyone's opinion I would maybe put him on number 3
@@anon2427 This is my UFC top list right now If I would make a top list of every existing MMA fighter then Fedor would probably find a place in my top 10 because he is very good
Society has this idea that people cannot change. I understand the majority of people reading this will not agree, but Jesus can change people. Although theres the possibility that he truly is a sociopath and uses Jesus’s name as a coverup, I truly believe that Jon has repented of his sins, all of them. The partying, the drugs, the DUI and crash, etc. People change through the name of Christ, what you need to do is learn how to forgive.
I went into this video not knowing anything about Jon Jones and thinking "its probably just exaggerationn" and OH MY GOD. How do you just let this man keep fighting at the highest level after all he has done?
@@cs-zz7jd The thing is that he wasn't a particularly great draw. He's not Tyron Woodley bad but I'm not sure if the trouble was really worth it for most of his career.
I know he was 6’4 but having a 84 inch reach is super long, He could of been a good cruiserweight with that physique if he started boxing at a early age
Seeing the trajectory of Anderson Silva the breaks he did have only proved how good he actually it also prevented him from becoming victim of being uninspired, before Silvia’s loss to weidman we could see Silva was not feeling challenged. Which is why Silva would underestimate weidman and lose to showboating. We don’t see jones showboat which I believe he has always been determined to prove himself since the breaks. It kept him hungry
Moving into heavyweight division, which is dominated by older individuals, he might now just be entering into his heavyweight prime. We don’t know yet.
Jonny was poised to be Conor McGregor level of popular, but Jon Jones got in the way of Jon Jones. Still the goat, but nowhere near as popular as he should be, not for the in ring accolades at least.
On the most practical of perspectives, he's just plain losing himself money by getting into all of this legal trouble and missing fights because of all of these legal troubles. It's plain stupid.
I really like what Dana always says about him, so I am going to paraphrase it: "he is one of the all-time greats, but imagine what he could have become"
I favor Gane but it's impossible to say. We have no way of knowing in what shape JBJ is in or how well he will perform at HW. Also I hope he loses, dude belongs in prison. I wish him 0 luck and fortune in his future.
You think Juice Box Jones would willingly go to a long-term testing program? Dude has had Dana White cover for him on multiple tests before, I'm sure he'll do it again
Jones' TD ability has declined over the years and he's always struggled with tall opponents with long reaches. Cyril is just that but with the best striking in HW history. I expect Gane to win .
@@jayceegenocide4402 he's great on the ground. He took down Francis when Stipe couldn't, and Stipe took down DC for cross reference. He'll school Jones easily.
I don’t think I could ever understand how he’s kept in talks about how valid his accomplishments are after testing positive for roids. Not sure why I can’t look past that. Not to mention the method in which he has been able to preserve a “legacy” when it’s foundation is based in deception. I just can’t support the guy in anyway and don’t even hope he loses, I wish he wasn’t given the opportunities he’s been afforded until he’s actually changed or at least faced repercussions.
I don't understand that hate... the guy's a mess; capisce! then what, you know!? I think we all had lived enough to know when we see a guy who can't handle his own magnitude! and also, that if we would stood in his shoes, you would be able to count on one single hand the good results... look the guy's cartel, you know? that's what he did with this level of compromise that you guys criticise!
Jones will probably never have a legacy in or outside of mma: he is basically poor by athlete standards and they dont even disclose his PPV numbers anymore though that could also be a trend in general because interest in MMA outside of a Conor situation is down. Jones is also known as an eye-poking machine and a dirty fighter in general - Smith could have taken his belt if he didn't have mush brain. The second fight with Alex he went for a strike at his inner hip that could have been a fight-ending groin strike and was willing to risk it for that reason and after practically disabling Alex for the rest of the fight it was just pathetic. Jones looked awful against OSP, and one of the first times people proved that MMA media are all smoothbrained is believing in something called 'pulsing' which they practically made up on the spot. He then went on to put on an absolutely embarrassing performance against Santos - who fought him with one leg, and then he absolutely lost to Reyes but was saved by the judges anyway. His legacy against DC isnt great either because DC was diminished from his Olympic wrestling career and cutting to 205 always made him less - he was also old by then so it is not a trilogy that makes Jones look very good. Unfortunately Rumble died, probably because of steroid use, and Rumble would have likely taken his belt because he wouldnt have tried to wrestle with Jones like he did against DC in both of his losses. There was a time that even if you hated Jones you could at least say he was talented, but to be ducking people like Francis like he did and now Aspinal to fight the husk of Stipe is just pathetic and I think in ten years you will see Jon in the poor house if not dead.
Man you really need to start seperating athletes from the private person they are. Which right do you have to be disappointed from a guy who is on his own hussle? How can you be speak so withdrawn about a person who has obviously serious personal issues and is even maybe sick? Who gives you the legitimation to judge him? The fact that you saw him fighting and liked it? That's silly and pretentious. You didn't live his life you don't know how it feels to be him. Always remember although what he is struggling with he achieved more than you will ever and delivered over and over and over again. Will he defeat Gane? Quite for sure! Will it change anything about him being among the GOATs of the world if he won't - NO!
Like him or not he is most likely the greatest who ever did it, the youngest champion of all time, the more title defenses and the way he dominated everyone who was put in way. I actually admired him for not really trying to pass himself for something he is not. When asked if was if he was a good guy trying to be bad, or a bad guy trying to be good he answered that he was a bad guy trying to be good. Kind of reminded me the way people talk about Maradona. Take the good with bad, not everyone can be the "Hero" that fans wants them to be, it is just a reality.
I think he is for sure one of the best still but I can also understand people who say he's not I mean there are still great other guys in the goat discussion GSP, Silva, Demetrious Johnson, Cejudo, Aldo They are all the greatest in the UFC next to Jones in my opinion
There's another way to look at this: Jon Jones is so good that he can keep winning championship fights while constantly fucking his life up outside of the ring.
I would like to point out that this video is misleading , as his moniker states , the undefeated undisputed is undefeated and undisputed , do not slander Chael “the American gangster “ P Sonnen
I don't give a rat's ass about the pregnant woman. But being a bad sportsman because of cheating and outlandish trash talk, and being addicted to alcohol are lame
Haters. John jones is the youngest champion ever. John jones has the most title defenses ever. John jones fights the greatest fighters in the ufc doesnt pick his fights. John jones is the greatest ufc fighter we have ever seen. Stop the hate!
An often overlooked aspect is that Jon Jones never faces severe repercussions for his misdeeds which largely contributes to him not taking responsibility and changing his behaviour. The UFC are willing to give him a pass because they are so blinded by his money-making potential. The fact that he still has a driver's licence after all his reckless driving behaviour is absurd.
Well he's jon jones. Any normal person would've been behind bars for years after hitting that pregnant woman
@@christophermorgan9199 never faces severe repercussions? What exactly hasn't he faced that you think he should have? A death penalty? 😂
@@nemanjaradovanovic8033 he should’ve been in jail dude.
@@nemanjaradovanovic8033 🤡 yes he didn't face any severe repercussion.
@@zachnotzack4 for what? Tell me the charge
Shame he doesn't have that Dagestani grind mentally. He'd be a monster and actually respectable.
He was raised by a pastor but he has no sense of the dignity and discipline that comes with being religious, or even being a trained martial artist. Dudes just a mess
Bro the “Dagstani grind” has nothing to do with it lmao. The problem wasn’t that jones didn’t grind hard. He worked his ass off, even harder than Khabib. The problem was when he wasn’t grinding in camp, he struggled with mental health and addiction issues. He said himself that he was molested as a kid. Combine that with the death of his Mom and sister, and the pressure of being a young athlete, and there’s no wonder why he struggles with addiction. Not that I excuse his actions because of that tho.
@@GuyWithAPS5 Yeah but if he had the dignity and discipline that comes with being religious, he wouldn’t be a martial artist in the first place. His dad never wanted him to fight. If he listened to his dad and retired when his mom died in 2017, he’d probably be a lot happier. Unlike Khabib who kept his promise and gave up fighting once his dad died. That’s probably why Khabib is not as depressed, because he chose not to repress his trauma with addiction and keep fighting like Jon.
@@jayquellin6583 Other than perhaps Tony, nobody worked harder than Khabib. Jon was always the type to slack off in training at times and take shortcuts by using PEDs to more than make up for any lost time.
@@GuyWithAPS5 No sense of accountability.
Goats don’t need steroids to win, dj and gsp
Are the greatest
Amen Bro!! 🙏👍
How this guy isn’t in jail or banned in ufc is crazy
One reason: money
another reason: he’s a jojo
@@johngobble John Jostar?
@@AwakenZen Johnathan Jonestar !!
@@AwakenZen😂
Why should I care about his personal life
Because by supporting him you're implicitly condoning his behaviour.
It's actually incredibly obvious.
Amazing video again TJ
After Gane, Jon Jones will fight for the lightweight domestic violence championship against Dana White
Incredible how so many black men in America can't stay away from trouble with the law.
Nobody else gets endless chances like Jon Jones.
Whats crazy that peopld still support him and wish him the best after all hes done. Tj was hated and he didnt do half of what jones did
I think they do it because Bones "never" lost, and TJ had lost before popping. Those fans are fickle and spiteful losers. They think being undefeated in matches is a measure of pure skill or something. The minute Bones loses a fight without controversy they'll act like they never knew him.
If Jon looses he might change as a person
Baaahhahahahahaaa
Mr.Can't get right
did you reupload this
New Title: The Legendary Tale of the GOAT Jon Jones
These comments have restored my hope for the world.
Jon refused to fight Sonnen because he knew whitout Months and months of analizing his fights he wouldnt beat the goat
How do you call 11 mins long???
4:45 wtf are you talking about that was DC that said that to Jon not Jon saying it to DC.
DC said it then Jon said he'd kill him if he'd ever do anything like that.
What is the actual point of this video
Dc said he’s spit in JJ’s face
Take a shot every time he says john jones
Don't forget Connor McGregor. I think he's easily UFC's biggest disappointment. He is UFC's spoiled child.
Dude, how do you know that all those breaks and suspensions were the reason he never lost
I mean 3 years is a lot of fights. he escaped a lot of confrontations
No disrespect but you made a false ass statement around the beginning. It was DC that said he wanted to spit in jons face not the other way around, which then jon proceeded to say he will kill DC
I wouldnt say these things make ihm dispointing
Jon Jones the only man who can go into the Hall of Fame, and the Hall of Shame in one night
The only place he should be going in is a fuckin jail cell.
Lmao
Some people really forget Demetrious Johnson and how he truly was the goat, barely defeated, never cheated, always respectful, but nah yall forget him because he didn’t talk all the chata chata
And sadly thats why no one talks about him which is fucking unfortunate. It hurts how underrated Mighty Mouse is.
Though I like the fact that recently there’s been a couple of Mighty Mouse docu vids popping up
He can't be the goat. Dogshit competition at flyweight.
And he went over to another promotion full of scarier strikers and knocked out their champ in OneFC.
Dude deleterious Johnson fought in the weakest division ever. There’s no way he can be considered the goat if he lost to Triple C trice
Bro, DJ is the man
Jon Jones is a very scary person to me. Physically, yes, but mostly mentally. Something about the clear lack of remorse in all of his actions, the unparalleled malicious assuredness in every word he says, the clear fact he only ever regrets getting caught. I think he may legitimately be a sociopath
Looking at all those traits you've metioned plus the fact that he can lie without hesitation and doesn't seem to feel empathy he probably is a psychopath
a trait a lot of great fighters possess
This is literally a sport where people beat the fuck out of each other in several ways until they're either knocked out, give up, or time runs out lol
@@ARG0Tyour point?
@@TenshinhanIsKingthat it's a pretty psycho sport lmao
It’s crazy to see how much time he’s missed in his prime as well from all his dumb antics. The guy easily could have gone and been 35+ wins by now if he had remained clean and strayed away from any problems in his personal life. Kind of crazy to think many see him as one of the best already and if he had been clean and never had any problems, he may have been just in general one of the greatest athletes we have ever seen….
despite missing alot of time he achieves alot still which shows his ridicolous talent but its sad to see that he has a bad mindset. The way it's looking is that if he doesn't fix his bad antics then after he retires from UFC his life will keep going downhill to the point of no return
I disagree, if he wasn’t on gear he’d have multiple losses, I mean he got beat by Reyes and ran from the division, since then Reyes keeps getting finished… Jones knows Jiri would stop him
@@diskid3644 Jiri would get taken down and choked out by Jon sadly.
@@diskid3644 Jiri is arguably the most defenseless champ on the roster(prior to his vacate). Jon jones would maul him
35+ wins with no losses "easily". Stop the CAP.
I recently saw a clip of Jon saying how he would get drunk and party a week before his fight because in his mind he could use that as an excuse if he lost the fight 💀.
I mean man's beat DC after a weekend of coke
Surprised he didn’t use it as an excuse for when he fought Reyes.
@@ARR409 he beat Reyes
@@PresidentEvil They fought in Texas and Texas used the old United rules for judging in MMA in 2020. According to that scoring criteria, Jones should have lost.
He lost either way tho. With the modern judging criteria he would’ve certainly lost too.
@@Things2635 Coke is Jon's pre-workout lol.
There’s a huge lack of accountability in the MMA community, and the fact that Jon Jones still has Fans is a testament to that.
cope hes the goat keep coping
Why is that? Why don’t you want him to have any fans?
@@OnlyOneHunnids do u guys got any moral values? It’d be one thing for him to fuck up once or twice and acknowledge it and try to be better. But to just not give a shit and willingly be a horrible person is another. The guy is a selfish sociopath. U just gonna overlook all of that cuz he’s good in the octagon. I mean cmon bro. This isn’t even about accusations. There is hard evidence of him doing this. Maybe he’s finally changed now but beating your wife in-front of your daughter is damn near unforgivable
@@HC-sb5ck maybe cause he beat his girlfriend pretty bad. Are you friends with woman beaters?
@@OnlyOneHunnids Khabib has no losses and Jones has 1. Therefore Khabib is better
4:47 dc said he would spit in jon’s face, not the other way around
Yeah I don’t like the narrative that Jones instigated any of this because he did not and was simply reacting to somebody being extremely disrespectful to him. Jones never hated DC, it was always Daniel trying to grab his throat or spit on him or assault Jon in some manner. 90% of people would react the same if someone did that to them.
@@DADRB0B55 I get what ur saying but I think jones technically started the beef. He went up to dc in person and said sommit like ‘you look like a wrestler, get cauliflower on your other ear then maybe you can get a takedown on me’ and dc took this the wrong way obviously
Goats don’t need steroids to win, dj and gsp
Are the greatest
gsp on roids
Hella likable guys too. Especially Mighty Mouse
@@cringemaxxing28 never popped but possible tbh. The only issue with DJ is that his resume doesn't look as cool with how few champions are on there. Couldn't blame him tho tbh. He was there when the division was created and was too good to let anyone else become a champion. If DJ came back and Beat Moreno and Figueiredo there would be no debate left.
@@smokecardboards
Both are just to humble
Especially DJ
He refused to become a trash talker because he doesn't enjoy it and instead accepted getting switched against a trash talking clown and now fights on a high level in another organisation(btw he's gonna fight again soon so let's cheer him on🙂)
both on roid
Jon Jones is like a cartoon villain who’s always taken down but comes back stronger the next time lol
Problem is there's a lot of people out there who can't make the distinction that Jones is an actual real-life person, who's done real harm to real victims.
@@AirLancer ya rip DC
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Jones changed the game, you can't even fight without cheating, they had to change the rules to allow his push kicks to the knee, Diaz asked what they hell, those used to be illegal. Jones has by far the most effective eye pokes the sport has ever seen. His savvy use of PEDs also changed the sport, USADA is a thing partially because of Jones and he still has a career because he was willing to tell on a bunch if people USADA wanted to actually go after. Jones has been nothing but bad for the sport, he should never have gotten as far as he has, but the UFC keeps winking at his eye pokes and push kicks to knee, being on roids this whole life, and having no value for lives other then his own. Jones most brutal stoppage in the last few years was against his spouse but that's still fine with the UFC
They didn't give any Travis Browne any leniency when his ex accused him of DA.
Great comment, the UFC pushed him so much higher than he deserves to be, I hope stipe knocks him out but unfortunately the heavyweight division is weak right now and stipe is old so I don’t see it honestly
@@jesterman3772 I hope Stipe knocks out Jones too.
You should bring up the controversy of the UFC moving an entire event to California because Jon pissed hot for that Alexander fight. The only two KO wins since 2013, he was on something. Also don't forget the eye pokes.
Jones , the biggest what if in mma. Like what if he never got arrested , what if he never tested positive, what if he didn’t lose two years in his prime. Yet he still has achieved so much , hard to believe he could’ve done so much more
Not really, he cheated, that puts a big x in his legacy right then and there.
@@balt3562 So did everyone else. Some just know how to get away with it.
I’ve said this before but I think the fact that he’s a cokehead is more significant than the steroids. Cocaine sends your adrenal glands berserk, and alters your pain tolerance. This is why crakcheads can do all the impossible shit they do, like run on no food, work all day, take a beating and keep moving etc . For me, Jones is maybe the most talented fighter ever, but this combined with the fact that he’s done so much steroids (they all do it, so if you’re doing so much that you can get caught twice, then you’re positively blasting it, since USADA is pretty easy to dupe), I can never 🐐 him. He’s a cheater through and through.
@@balt3562 never cheated, never lost. His 10 picograms he popped for twice isn't even tested by USADA anymore. His no contest against DC is going to be turned over into a win
@@thequinlanshow3326 He literally tested for steroids and multiple other PEDS in 3 instances. Yes 1 is for cocaine, but it doesn't explain the 3 instances of PEDs. That's instant disqualification from being great imo, especially when you consider guys these days aren't doing it
I wish people didn't call him a disappointment. The vast majority of people who watch the UFC now came in after he was already exposed as a terrible person. For the average UFC viewer he's not a disappointment, he's just a terrible person. Probably at least a third of all UFC viewers haven't even seen him fight.
Even if he isn't a disappointment, it's still disappointing to see that one of the GOATs is such a bad a person
Im glad you're doing these MMA videos. As a sport I like boxing, but there's too much bs and politics preventing it from being as enjoyable as it can so making MMA videos will definitely help your channels longevity and garner new viewers
Boxing sucks now let’s be honest
Great fighter, Terrible person
Juiced fighter, terrible person.
@@cole88 he's popped for ped's and has beat his wife. Saying that isnt hating but stating factually correct things
You didn’t mention when he tested positive for the third time and they moved the entire event in order to make him fight in a state that would allow it despite the failed test.
AND USADA after the fact that tried to come up with some kind of explanation, but didn’t care to do so for other athletes in similar situations.
Still great video and thank you so much for your work, you really are an awesome channel!
Idk, kinda feel like askren is the biggest disappointment
Nice video but I still think you should have mentioned how UFC 232 had to be moved in less than a week from Las Vegas to L.A. due to Jones failing another drug test before his rematch with Gustafsson.
And the the multi drug failings before the Anthony fight. I am not buying that "pulsing" explanation because USADA is in the pocket for UFC and why just No Bones and not the other fighters who got popped? Not to mention UFC did not disclose Lestner's drug test results AFTER UFC 200 inspite of having the results before the event.
And even through all this shit, Jon Jones is STILL considered the greatest of all time. Even bigger flex cuz mans ain even try fr and took over the whole UFC
He did try. Cuz he used banned substances what are you even talking about.
DC is the one who said he would spit in Jon’s face
surprised he missed that... I don't think this guy even watched it, how could you get that classic interview wrong.
What’s sad is that he actively shoots his career to the stars every time he fights but continuously destroys his life with these horrible choices he makes. Jones has the chance to stand for something with the title fights. I recall Iron Mikes mentor once saying “fighting is the process of character building”. Maybe training with Henry can give him some needed insight and stability.
I get what you mean but Jon Jones is a psycho or a sociopath. Those eyes and lack of empathy are serious signs. I saw that post fight and that was like a psycho acting like he cared about another human lol
I guess what bothers me is the push he gets from the UFC. He can get suspended and/or take time off and then just come back and get an automatic title shot or contender match. Then he’ll sit there and act like he worked for it but sometimes it’s just been handed to him. I’m so surprised the UFC had put up with him despite how many violations he’s had in/out of the octagon, it’s just pretty much tarnished his legacy for some and has definitely shown the favoritism the sport has internally.
That's why I get so pissed when Jones fans complain about the UFC and Dana to pay him his worth... this dude has gotten away with some much crap that he should be kissing the UFCs feet for still letting him compete. This dude beat his wife bloody in front of his daughters that they called the cops and a year and half later... hes fighting for the undisputed HW world title with out fighting for 3 years
I mean he is just that good
You're partially right about that. You have to remember Jones came back from multiple suspensions. Always fought top contenders or even extremely good champions like Daniel Cormier and always WON those fights. The man is just that skilled. Aside from his skills, his behavior hasn't been punished properly by the UFC, and that probably led him to believe he'll never face any consequence.
That’s what happens when your the greatest mma fighter of all time
@@andreapedroni3256 won those fights
Then tested positive for juice
Juice Box Jones truly is on another level...
when it comes to sucking up to Daddy Dana White to bail him out.
I think Jon Jones is still around the top 5 for sure together with Silva, GSP, Johnson and Aldo
But if he is the goat or not depends on everyone's opinion
I would maybe put him on number 3
Where would you put Fedor on that list?
Where's DJ?
@@heassik3088
Uhm....I said DJ
Johnson = DJ
@@anon2427
This is my UFC top list right now
If I would make a top list of every existing MMA fighter then Fedor would probably find a place in my top 10 because he is very good
DC is legit one of the best UFC fighters of all time, The guy doesn't get enough credit in the goat conversation
A rare double champ
🙄he's not that good... tbh
From all the steroids he's taken in the ring to all the terrible stuff he's done outside of it, it's really hard to root for the guy.
Society has this idea that people cannot change. I understand the majority of people reading this will not agree, but Jesus can change people. Although theres the possibility that he truly is a sociopath and uses Jesus’s name as a coverup, I truly believe that Jon has repented of his sins, all of them. The partying, the drugs, the DUI and crash, etc. People change through the name of Christ, what you need to do is learn how to forgive.
New(ish) to UFC and didn’t know he had done all of this. I’m here for Gane to STOP him.
watch him fight tho, he controls every fight with ease and dominates, seperate the art from the artist
@@0hshian didn't dominate Santos and Reyes tho
@@0hshian Lost to Dominick Reyes tho
@@richardgordon0407 yeah, that’s when he started falling off a bit, but the jones curse real, they both haven’t been the same since
Inshallah
I went into this video not knowing anything about Jon Jones and thinking "its probably just exaggerationn" and OH MY GOD. How do you just let this man keep fighting at the highest level after all he has done?
Celebrity and cash cow privileges.
@@cs-zz7jd The thing is that he wasn't a particularly great draw. He's not Tyron Woodley bad but I'm not sure if the trouble was really worth it for most of his career.
salute to this dude promoting my guy Larone. both of you deserves lot of subscribers!
I know he was 6’4 but having a 84 inch reach is super long, He could of been a good cruiserweight with that physique if he started boxing at a early age
He’s literally known for his 7 feet reach
The greatest disappointment in all of sports !!! Are u nuts. Dislike
Seeing the trajectory of Anderson Silva the breaks he did have only proved how good he actually it also prevented him from becoming victim of being uninspired, before Silvia’s loss to weidman we could see Silva was not feeling challenged. Which is why Silva would underestimate weidman and lose to showboating. We don’t see jones showboat which I believe he has always been determined to prove himself since the breaks. It kept him hungry
Moving into heavyweight division, which is dominated by older individuals, he might now just be entering into his heavyweight prime. We don’t know yet.
Jonny was poised to be Conor McGregor level of popular, but Jon Jones got in the way of Jon Jones. Still the goat, but nowhere near as popular as he should be, not for the in ring accolades at least.
Beige Frequency has a good series (Still ongoing) about Jon Jones. Id recommend if you want the details about him.
He’s also a commie but his MMA stuff is good
On the most practical of perspectives, he's just plain losing himself money by getting into all of this legal trouble and missing fights because of all of these legal troubles. It's plain stupid.
A guy with 14 title wins is the most disappointing UFC fighter of all times yes
I really like what Dana always says about him, so I am going to paraphrase it: "he is one of the all-time greats, but imagine what he could have become"
I favor Gane but it's impossible to say. We have no way of knowing in what shape JBJ is in or how well he will perform at HW. Also I hope he loses, dude belongs in prison. I wish him 0 luck and fortune in his future.
I hope he loses to Gane and then goes on a Bigfoot Silvaesque losing streak.
9:33 "Like pouring water on a Gremlin" 😂
Do we know if he's been enrolled in a long-term testing program to make sure he's clean? Is USADA year round testing? If so when did Jones enroll it?
You think Juice Box Jones would willingly go to a long-term testing program? Dude has had Dana White cover for him on multiple tests before, I'm sure he'll do it again
Jiri was like more than 3 times tested than him last year
11 minutes is not long...if it was 5 time longer, i would watch it because you made a great video and you hit the bulls eye!!!great video!!!
the goat will return and he will retire undefeated, gane aint nothing to jon bones jones!!!
Cormier said he wanted to spit in JJ’s face and JJ said he would kill him if he doing something like that
Jon jones would go and get blackout drunk every friday night before the fights so if he ever lost that would be his excuse to himself
I see gane beating Jon becuase of ganes styles
Jones' TD ability has declined over the years and he's always struggled with tall opponents with long reaches. Cyril is just that but with the best striking in HW history. I expect Gane to win .
@@hmmm3210 You are overating Ganes Striking & how bad he is on the ground.
@@jayceegenocide4402 he's great on the ground. He took down Francis when Stipe couldn't, and Stipe took down DC for cross reference. He'll school Jones easily.
@@cringemaxxing28he’s great on the ground but gane got wrestle fucked for multiple rounds by ngannou who had shot knees😂
@Jaycee Genocide Gane isn't bad on the ground at all. He has sub wins. Which HW you see snagging leg locks in the UFC?
Brooo, you did Jon dirty in the thumbnail 💀💀💀
I don’t think I could ever understand how he’s kept in talks about how valid his accomplishments are after testing positive for roids. Not sure why I can’t look past that. Not to mention the method in which he has been able to preserve a “legacy” when it’s foundation is based in deception. I just can’t support the guy in anyway and don’t even hope he loses, I wish he wasn’t given the opportunities he’s been afforded until he’s actually changed or at least faced repercussions.
Am gald he headbutt the cop car who cares about cops
Jon Jones is #1 pound for pound in man and woman division
That's impressive
@dwalllace GSP sucks
I don't understand that hate... the guy's a mess; capisce! then what, you know!? I think we all had lived enough to know when we see a guy who can't handle his own magnitude! and also, that if we would stood in his shoes, you would be able to count on one single hand the good results... look the guy's cartel, you know? that's what he did with this level of compromise that you guys criticise!
It was DC who said he wished he could spit in Jones face. Then Jon responded by saying he’d ☠️ DC if he did spit in his face.
I'll be rooting for Cyril Gane, because I've been following him since pandemic
how the fuck did he not go to jail
Jon Jones, Tom Brady both accused of "cheating" BUT Still reached GOAT status. What God has for you is for you, NO ONE can take that from you.
Jones will probably never have a legacy in or outside of mma: he is basically poor by athlete standards and they dont even disclose his PPV numbers anymore though that could also be a trend in general because interest in MMA outside of a Conor situation is down. Jones is also known as an eye-poking machine and a dirty fighter in general - Smith could have taken his belt if he didn't have mush brain. The second fight with Alex he went for a strike at his inner hip that could have been a fight-ending groin strike and was willing to risk it for that reason and after practically disabling Alex for the rest of the fight it was just pathetic.
Jones looked awful against OSP, and one of the first times people proved that MMA media are all smoothbrained is believing in something called 'pulsing' which they practically made up on the spot.
He then went on to put on an absolutely embarrassing performance against Santos - who fought him with one leg, and then he absolutely lost to Reyes but was saved by the judges anyway. His legacy against DC isnt great either because DC was diminished from his Olympic wrestling career and cutting to 205 always made him less - he was also old by then so it is not a trilogy that makes Jones look very good. Unfortunately Rumble died, probably because of steroid use, and Rumble would have likely taken his belt because he wouldnt have tried to wrestle with Jones like he did against DC in both of his losses.
There was a time that even if you hated Jones you could at least say he was talented, but to be ducking people like Francis like he did and now Aspinal to fight the husk of Stipe is just pathetic and I think in ten years you will see Jon in the poor house if not dead.
I ain’t disappointed
Someone telling you that they're a Jones fan is a massive red flag to that persons character
Yep. Can attest. I worked with a Jon Jones fan.
GOAT
And yet he is STILL back with the current Heavyweight title.......Dana White bro learn your GOD DAMN lesson. Smh.
Man you really need to start seperating athletes from the private person they are. Which right do you have to be disappointed from a guy who is on his own hussle? How can you be speak so withdrawn about a person who has obviously serious personal issues and is even maybe sick? Who gives you the legitimation to judge him? The fact that you saw him fighting and liked it? That's silly and pretentious. You didn't live his life you don't know how it feels to be him. Always remember although what he is struggling with he achieved more than you will ever and delivered over and over and over again. Will he defeat Gane? Quite for sure! Will it change anything about him being among the GOATs of the world if he won't - NO!
Like him or not he is most likely the greatest who ever did it, the youngest champion of all time, the more title defenses and the way he dominated everyone who was put in way. I actually admired him for not really trying to pass himself for something he is not. When asked if was if he was a good guy trying to be bad, or a bad guy trying to be good he answered that he was a bad guy trying to be good. Kind of reminded me the way people talk about Maradona. Take the good with bad, not everyone can be the "Hero" that fans wants them to be, it is just a reality.
He’s still the 🐐
Still the ufc goat
Yep
goat of failed drug tests
Cheaters can't be GOATs. Might as well call Hans Niemann the chess GOAT.
I think he is for sure one of the best still but I can also understand people who say he's not
I mean there are still great other guys in the goat discussion
GSP, Silva, Demetrious Johnson, Cejudo, Aldo
They are all the greatest in the UFC next to Jones in my opinion
No doubt if he beats Gane, should be unanimous that he’s the greatest. Popped or not.
I want him to win but I'm predicting that his shin will break as well just like what happened to Connor 🤔
Why?
Skinny legs and because Gane is built like a Truck
@@T_995is gane's neck built too
@@Kgopani3101 Yep. Obviously wasn't enough to stop Jon though lol
Even when he wins, he finds a way to lose!
He took steroids his whole career he’s not the goat lmao.
Everyone did, no one has 16 title wins
There's another way to look at this: Jon Jones is so good that he can keep winning championship fights while constantly fucking his life up outside of the ring.
Another way to look at it is that Jon Jones needs steroids, cheats that go unpunished and very dubious decisions to win fights
I would like to point out that this video is misleading , as his moniker states , the undefeated undisputed is undefeated and undisputed , do not slander Chael “the American gangster “ P Sonnen
He’s the GOAT tho how’s he a disappointment
Outside the ring
you aint watch the video or
disappointing but still the goat.
I don't give a rat's ass about the pregnant woman. But being a bad sportsman because of cheating and outlandish trash talk, and being addicted to alcohol are lame
Hit and run 👍🏻
Trash talk 👎
What a stupid comment 🤣
I hope Jon jones looses
Haters. John jones is the youngest champion ever. John jones has the most title defenses ever. John jones fights the greatest fighters in the ufc doesnt pick his fights. John jones is the greatest ufc fighter we have ever seen. Stop the hate!
More boxing please