How The West Was Won | Grant and Sherman After The Battle of Shiloh | Warner Classics

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  • @azohundred1353
    @azohundred1353 2 місяці тому +125

    How The West Was Was Won has one of the greatest ensemble casts in film history, in my opinion.

    • @kfiscal01
      @kfiscal01 2 місяці тому +13

      The Longest Day for me.

    • @glhmedic
      @glhmedic 2 місяці тому +6

      @@kfiscal01same here. The Longest Day by a mile

    • @RonaldDownham
      @RonaldDownham 2 місяці тому

      How the West was won is alot better then the Longest Day by along shot .

    • @pdm2201
      @pdm2201 2 місяці тому +3

      And great music too.

    • @32shumble
      @32shumble 2 місяці тому +10

      @@kfiscal01 coincidently John Wayne played John Wayne in both films

  • @teletran1175
    @teletran1175 2 місяці тому +38

    I love the look of those old movie sets. It makes me feel like a kid again.

    • @michaelstanley3961
      @michaelstanley3961 2 місяці тому +1

      Better than the crap we get today...

    • @AbdulGabagool83
      @AbdulGabagool83 18 днів тому

      @@michaelstanley3961they had to get really clever with set building before cgi. A lost art

  • @AbdulGabagool83
    @AbdulGabagool83 18 днів тому +1

    This is a very visually stunning movie. It among other movies inspired me to see the American southwest and beautiful nature there❤

  • @paullewis2413
    @paullewis2413 2 місяці тому +63

    When I was a kid I was taken to see this movie. It was shown in Cinerama (the original 3 strip) and I was in awe of the gigantic screen and amazing sound. I’ll never forget the experience at such an impressionable age. 😊

    • @peterm5453
      @peterm5453 2 місяці тому +5

      The final chapter of the film where sherrif George Peppard takes on Eli Wallace's gang of train robbers was tremendous viewing.

    • @tomscott4438
      @tomscott4438 2 місяці тому +5

      Yup, me too. Saw this and it's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World at the same theatre, and Spencer Tracy was in both.

    • @alainangibaud8128
      @alainangibaud8128 2 місяці тому +2

      Moi aussi c’est le premier film que ma mère m’a emmené voir au cinéma !

    • @selewachm
      @selewachm 2 місяці тому

      My Dad took it to see it on Broadway in Manhattan when I was a kid. The film was released in 1962 which would have made me 9. l remember all of it!!

    • @tomtallmon
      @tomtallmon 2 місяці тому

      Yes that's how I was back in the seventies in the late 60s The Three Point screen that gave a good wide effect compared to what today technology is ​@@tomscott4438

  • @robertnymand9889
    @robertnymand9889 2 місяці тому +26

    Another great western! I can watch this one over and over. Great cast!

  • @garymcaleer6112
    @garymcaleer6112 2 місяці тому +25

    That scenery is so true to life. And the color of the film also.

  • @keithmartin9002
    @keithmartin9002 2 місяці тому +21

    Great classic with one of greatest cast ever🇺🇸this a American story

  • @rickjohnson6559
    @rickjohnson6559 2 місяці тому +7

    At the time it was made I was in jr high. It was a grand epic. And still is today. To enlist every a list actor and actress. I still hear Debbie Reynolds singing " I'll build you a home in the meadow. ". Tears fill my eyes as I'm old now. And I look to the meadow and greet my family ❤😢

    • @RoySmiles100
      @RoySmiles100 2 місяці тому +1

      Debbie Reynolds is FANTASTIC in the movie. You're right: the song is haunting.

  • @alvaropelayo8084
    @alvaropelayo8084 2 місяці тому +39

    John Wayne was, as always, great, no matter what anybody might say or write about it. God bless him.

    • @mjford6152
      @mjford6152 2 місяці тому +4

      Not a Sherman type at all. The silk scarf is laughable.

    • @cfox7811
      @cfox7811 2 місяці тому +3

      Wayne played the same character in every role he played. Bloody awful actor.

    • @aresee8208
      @aresee8208 2 місяці тому +4

      What's interesting to me about John Wayne is that it seems as if he were in every war in American history (and was in favor of all of them) without actually ever having served in any of them. He was never in the miltary. And when all his acting contemporaries were actually fighting in World War II, he was back home in California playing soldier in war movies.

    • @mikefowler301
      @mikefowler301 2 місяці тому +3

      @@aresee8208 I see history isn't your friend and ignorance or Stupid? is........... He tried (oh he certainly tried), Just like every other actor back then lot's got in but the Military said no way to Wayne, But I'm not writing a book for you (probably can't read), Go find out yourself. USN Vet.

    • @aresee8208
      @aresee8208 2 місяці тому +2

      @@mikefowler301 No, Wayne was initially classified 1-A, Draft Eligible. But he requested a 3-A Hardship Deferment due to family commitments. To be clear, he was perfectly entitled to his deferment - and he took it. Clearly, it was good for his career. When so many actors were in the military fighting for their country, Wayne was in Hollywood making lots of money. Look it up.

  • @jliller
    @jliller 2 місяці тому +57

    I didn't realize Colonel Potter was General Grant reincarnated. It does explain his love of horses.

    • @bandoron
      @bandoron 2 місяці тому

      yeah as soon as i heard the voice i was like holy crap.

    • @marksnyder8022
      @marksnyder8022 2 місяці тому +5

      Before he played Col. Potter, he had a guest appearance on MASH as General Steele, a racist officer who conducts a court martial where he insists a Black officer "give us a number" 🤦🏻‍♂️ before testifying. He should have said, "Just the facts sir, just the facts."

    • @Sabe53
      @Sabe53 2 місяці тому +1

      He was Sherman not Grant.

    • @xolotl8860
      @xolotl8860 2 місяці тому +2

      @@Sabe53 John Wayne is playing Sherman, Harry Morgan (Col. Potter) is playing Grant.

    • @maestroclassico5801
      @maestroclassico5801 Місяць тому +1

      @@Sabe53 Harry was Grant, John Wayne was Sherman.

  • @hiyathere-c5v
    @hiyathere-c5v 2 місяці тому +5

    I saw and LOVED this film ... on the BIG screen ... when it first came out ... a long long long long long long time ago! GREAT PIC!

  • @vanpelt2321
    @vanpelt2321 2 місяці тому +3

    Even though Ford hated the Cinerama process, here are all the great Fordian themes, packed down and overflowing in full measure. The mystical bond between the mother and son and their wordless agony in parting, the Communion of Saints (the supplication of the living to those who are long dead) and even the giving up of the spirit symbolized by the fluttering kerchief, a leitmotif Ford originally used with Doc Holliday's death in "My Darling Clementine". For young filmmakers who care to sit up and notice, here is a master class in cinema from the master poet of the art. Especially in a great film generally written off in Ford's canon as forgettable fluff.

  • @highstepperARF
    @highstepperARF 2 місяці тому +107

    Col Potter was in the Army a long time.

    • @bearpitt
      @bearpitt 2 місяці тому +6

      Did stint as a LA police detective in the middle.

    • @timorean320
      @timorean320 2 місяці тому +8

      Sherman, talking to Sherman T. Potter.

    • @georgesakellaropoulos8162
      @georgesakellaropoulos8162 2 місяці тому +6

      It would be funny if the T stood for Tecumseh. ​@timorean320

    • @chrisfoxwell4128
      @chrisfoxwell4128 2 місяці тому

      ​@@georgesakellaropoulos8162, it did.

    • @crapphone7744
      @crapphone7744 2 місяці тому

      Retread😂

  • @kenharvey8161
    @kenharvey8161 2 місяці тому +42

    Angry Soldier: "Why can't you look where you're going?"
    Grant: "I'm sorry, soldier."
    That is exactly how Grant would have responded in that situation.

    • @mikeoyler2983
      @mikeoyler2983 2 місяці тому +3

      Wasn't that Sherman? I guess it was Grant, but I have to say the way how they put Harry Morgan in his costume I thought that was Sherman.

    • @ronkelley1191
      @ronkelley1191 2 місяці тому +2

      I think that the soldier was ken curtis

    • @Zarastro54
      @Zarastro54 2 місяці тому +2

      @@mikeoyler2983John Wayne was playing Sherman and he wasn’t the one shoved.

    • @mikeoyler2983
      @mikeoyler2983 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Zarastro54 I know. Im saying that Wayne looks more like Grant and Morgan looks more like Sherman.

    • @JohnMinehan-lx9ts
      @JohnMinehan-lx9ts 2 місяці тому

      @@mikeoyler2983 Not really, like Grant , Morgan was average in Hight and not prepossessing . . . .

  • @casualobserver3145
    @casualobserver3145 2 місяці тому +5

    What timing! Recently visited the Shiloh, Tenn - Corinth, Mississippi battlefield areas.

  • @jon-francis9289
    @jon-francis9289 2 місяці тому +6

    That little speech by Sherman to Grant was the of the great pick me ups in film history. Short and straight to the point. The Duke at his best. 'A man has the right to resign only when he's wrong, not if he's right'. 'The army's better off with you than without you, that's the test'.

    • @clintonreisig
      @clintonreisig 2 місяці тому

      Sherman was up to no major non-sense on the battlefield 😅

    • @Robert-is7du
      @Robert-is7du 2 місяці тому

      The script of John Wayne is code talk
      Polarity factor types
      The right Wayne refers to when he says ONLY if Ur right foot
      What does he mean by that as the electrical acceleration of ur right foot pedal Lotus Breathing eternal absolute pure love for all sacred living sentient life forms directly tethered to the Primal electrified Eternal Krystal acoustical eternal source of all sentient life form electrical power supply to experience being Totally loved and totally relaxed being U
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      They're always at War with Helium
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      Their running Black Goo Google Maps mirrors
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      Mu ah VA 💋 🌈 Aurora's

    • @jon-francis9289
      @jon-francis9289 2 місяці тому

      @@Robert-is7du Thanks for clearing that all up. It's a pity the Duke is no longer with us. He'd have been right on board with all that stuff.

    • @johnnyelizabethton
      @johnnyelizabethton Місяць тому

      @@Robert-is7du _I_ was gonna say that!

    • @WhiteCamry
      @WhiteCamry Місяць тому

      And, best of all, it really happened.

  • @kathy.7475
    @kathy.7475 28 днів тому

    My aunt took me to see that movie in San Francisco when I was a girl. It was shown in Cinerama, something previously unheard of. It was amazing, like being right there in the picture myself.

  • @drcharles66
    @drcharles66 2 місяці тому +5

    I saw this movie here in Atlanta. For those who dont know about the CineRama process; There were three projectors showing three different filmed that were synced such that the three films blended perfectly. You could see a slight seam between the films. That scene with Carol Baker if you looked closely you could see the seam. IIRC the film was rereleased in the conventional format but the seam was still there. Great film!!

  • @jody6851
    @jody6851 2 місяці тому +6

    I saw "How the West Was Won" with my parents as a little kid in the special Cinerama movie theater near me. The technique was revolutionary at the time. Giant wide screen epic 3 and four hour films with an intermission that made you feel inside the movie long before IMAX was introduced. One of the other famous scenes in this film was being at ground level in the middle of a giant buffalo stampede. You felt like hundreds of buffalo were running right over you.

  • @Oldguy-k3t
    @Oldguy-k3t 2 місяці тому +1

    Love how the cannons fire in quick sequence!

  • @robertnymand9889
    @robertnymand9889 2 місяці тому +14

    Spencer Tracey was great narrator too!

  • @metallampman
    @metallampman 2 місяці тому +5

    great great movie makes me feel old most of the actors are gone

  • @diogenesofsinope3730
    @diogenesofsinope3730 2 місяці тому +1

    Saw this in the amazing Cinerama format in 1963: Three synchronized 35mm projectors onto a huge, deeply curved screen, subtending 146-degrees of arc. This explains the unusual anamorphic perspectives in this movie.
    Five years later I saw 2001: A Space Odyssey in this same theatre with a modified Cinerama system using single lens Super Panavision 70.
    The two best movie experiences of my childhood!

  • @LouisBourett
    @LouisBourett 2 місяці тому +20

    The dead soldier they brought in the hospital scene was captain Linus rawlings. George prepards father

    • @kenharvey8161
      @kenharvey8161 2 місяці тому +5

      aka Jimmy Stewart

    • @maestroclassico5801
      @maestroclassico5801 2 місяці тому

      ​@@kenharvey8161they actually shot that scene BEFORE Jimmy's scenes at the beginning of the film were filmed which is why it clearly isn't Jimmy on the table.

    • @projektkobra2247
      @projektkobra2247 Місяць тому +1

      Awful shock for the audience I bet at the time...

  • @douglashogg4848
    @douglashogg4848 2 місяці тому +8

    After Shiloh, Sherman knew the war would be long and bloody.

    • @marksnyder8022
      @marksnyder8022 2 місяці тому +3

      I think he knew that already. He had been an instructor at the Louisiana Military Institute (which became LSU) before the war. He was in command of most of Kentucky when he announced that it would require 200,000 Union troops to win the war. This very high number caused him to be labeled insane as he mentions here. In the end, it took about 3,000,000 to give the Union victory.

    • @Degan1000
      @Degan1000 Місяць тому

      @@marksnyder8022 It was Grant who talked Sherman into staying with the army after war was declared. Quote from Sherman in early 1861 : "You politicians have got us into a fine fix. I think this will be a long war, very long. Much longer than any of you think. And I want no part of it."
      Incidentally, the Governor of Texas, Sam Houston, was against succession for this same reason. He fortold that the war would be long and costly in both money and lives. And he doubted the South could win. He was voted out of office by the Texas legislature.

  • @rabbitandcrow
    @rabbitandcrow 2 місяці тому +15

    This movie was meant to be seen in Cinerama, a spectacular projection format that used a curved screen so you felt like you immersed in the action - almost like a precursor to VR. That's why the framing looks so weird. You have to imagine the sides of the image sort of wrapping around you. And the original aspect ratio was much wider - this has been cropped.

    • @TheTerryGene
      @TheTerryGene 2 місяці тому +1

      Yes. The BluRay of the film is available in a “SmileBox” (curved screen) edition that approximates the Cinerama aspect ratio.

  • @bocagoodtimes1460
    @bocagoodtimes1460 Місяць тому +1

    This was back when the Civil War was a tragedy and both sides were respected.

  • @thomasspeetzen7658
    @thomasspeetzen7658 2 місяці тому

    Not only the cast, but also the 4 most notable directors (different segments) of the time

  • @mikeking7470
    @mikeking7470 2 місяці тому +2

    This may be the best damn western movie ever made. It certainly was both the widest format and the biggest cast of A-listers ever assembled!

  •  2 місяці тому +1

    A truley wonderful movie, i saw in in Cinerama in LA with my mother,, We saw ALL the Cinerama movies 🙂 the cannon all going off was the Intermission..

  • @abundantYOUniverse
    @abundantYOUniverse 2 місяці тому +2

    My God George Peppard looks like a kid in this.

  • @Mammothsaber-4457
    @Mammothsaber-4457 2 місяці тому +17

    One of the few older depictions of Grant that doesn’t seem to have been tainted by the Lost cause movement.

    • @Jsoberon
      @Jsoberon 2 місяці тому +2

      Agreed, they did a great job with the accuracy. Even Sherman's hand is injured as it was in real life. Though it is a bit funny how they have this very expository conversation about historical events that they definitely wouldn't have had.

    • @jollyjohnthepirate3168
      @jollyjohnthepirate3168 2 місяці тому +1

      They didn't just call Sherman crazy. He was most likely bi polar and was suffering from severe depression. His wife took him home to Ohio and he recuperated while on leave. He alone saw what kind of a war this would become and the knowledge broke him.

    • @johnhallett5846
      @johnhallett5846 2 місяці тому +3

      Really? those crying about the lost causers are usually woke jokes

    • @Mammothsaber-4457
      @Mammothsaber-4457 2 місяці тому +7

      @@johnhallett5846 criticizing the lost cause movement has nothing to do with being woke. The Lost Cause movement is historical revisionism, which should be criticized regardless of politics

    • @johnhallett5846
      @johnhallett5846 2 місяці тому

      @@Mammothsaber-4457 actually it is a woke invention and anyone claiming otherwise is an idiot. The lost cause so called movement ended like one hundred years ago. The woke jokes try and label anyone that is not a rabid hater of anything southern as a lost causer.

  • @dirkbogarde44
    @dirkbogarde44 2 місяці тому

    Such a great movie.

  • @weitzfc1
    @weitzfc1 2 місяці тому +2

    you have never had a great theater going experience until you have seen how the west was won in cinerama.

  • @joseantoniopazosvega9621
    @joseantoniopazosvega9621 2 місяці тому +4

    Después de Shiloh el Sur nunca volvió a sonreír.

  • @mikeweisberg5907
    @mikeweisberg5907 2 місяці тому

    When I was a kid I lived in Torrance, Cali I remember going to Grumens Chines Theater in Hollywood. Everything seemed gigantic (I was probably 4 or 5) I don’t recall the movie but it was loud and the movie seemed very epic

  • @nancyjanzen5676
    @nancyjanzen5676 2 місяці тому

    The score was great my high school band recorded it.

  • @crapphone7744
    @crapphone7744 2 місяці тому

    I'm sending the dog home as he goes off to enlist is one of the saddest things I think I've ever seen.

  • @surfermick8265
    @surfermick8265 2 місяці тому

    Made a huge impression on me saw this at the Cinerama pivotal film for me.

  • @curtisburga943
    @curtisburga943 2 місяці тому +1

    This was the segment directed by John Ford, who, apparently could not get used to the camera's field of view. A lot of shots were ruined because the cameras would pickup up crew members standing off to the side. That's why the whole segment is for the Civil War is basically this 11 minute youtube video.

  • @benjamindemornay1444
    @benjamindemornay1444 Місяць тому +1

    It's a great movie for a great country
    MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN❤

    • @nkel6111
      @nkel6111 Місяць тому

      its a garbage country based on theft, killing, and deviousness

    • @clearlycaribbeanreb2895
      @clearlycaribbeanreb2895 Місяць тому

      @@nkel6111Thanks to all the trash the Left has let in. 😉

  • @johnavast5939
    @johnavast5939 2 місяці тому +1

    Wow thank you so much - I had no idea about this movie. I'd heard of it but I just chalked it up to maybe being one of those sappy westerns. I definitely need to watch this full movie. Thank you so much

    • @jkorshak
      @jkorshak 2 місяці тому

      It's definitely sappy. It's also a grand spectacle epic packed with Hollywood stars of the era in big roles and small. It essentially follows one family and their offspring from the late 1830's and the early days of westward expansion to the late 1880's. Hollywood Classic.

  • @sammywestenberger9303
    @sammywestenberger9303 2 місяці тому +6

    Sherman: Hi 👋

  • @wasclit11
    @wasclit11 2 місяці тому +2

    At Shiloh one battle was called The Hornets Nest and the Union had more than 50 cannons. Confederates named the location the Hornet's Nest because so many bullets were being fired that it sounded like a swarm of angry hornets.

  •  2 місяці тому +1

    They asked a soldier at Waterloo about the events of the day and he said;”Damned ,if I know.I spent all day being ridden over by every fool on a horse!”

  • @magnificus8581
    @magnificus8581 2 місяці тому

    Wonderful score

  • @aa64912
    @aa64912 2 місяці тому

    An amazing sound track

  • @jaysonpida5379
    @jaysonpida5379 Місяць тому

    Linus Rollings ( the dead captain) was the Jimmy Stewart character from the earlier 'chapters'.

  • @johnmac3410
    @johnmac3410 2 місяці тому

    Great battle scenes, before CG! George Peppards character resembled Steven Cranes main subject in "Red Badge of Courage".

  • @EndingSimple
    @EndingSimple 2 місяці тому +3

    amazing anti-war scene for back then. Clint Eastwood looked more like Sherman then John Wayne. I've always been disappointed that Robin Williams never got to portray Ulysses S. Grant. He would have been perfect for the role.

    • @johnhallett5846
      @johnhallett5846 2 місяці тому

      Whenever someone talks anti war I know they are a moron. Show me a film that was actually pro war? The list will be very short

    • @projektkobra2247
      @projektkobra2247 Місяць тому

      Morgan almost looks just like him!!!..Not sure who Wayne might have resembled.

    • @trynnallen
      @trynnallen Місяць тому

      @@projektkobra2247 Not being mean...Hooker. He's too heavy for McClellan, or Meade, or Rosencranz, too slight for Burnside. He'd actually been a better Grant if Wayne could have learned how to look perpetually tired and worn out.

  • @libertyvilleguy2903
    @libertyvilleguy2903 2 місяці тому

    Great, great film.

  • @bikehikephototech
    @bikehikephototech Місяць тому +1

    Why doesn't Warner Bros Classics give us the full three strip view?

  • @berean77
    @berean77 2 місяці тому

    Saw this movie at the Loew's Paradise theater in the Bronx when it came out. They don't make theaters like that anymore.

  • @thomasfricker7330
    @thomasfricker7330 2 місяці тому

    Great movie

  • @maxlinder5262
    @maxlinder5262 2 місяці тому +4

    Rina Marlowe..& Jonas Cord....😮

  • @act1tv482
    @act1tv482 2 місяці тому +2

    Is there a movie or just youtube commercials?

  • @OldHickoryAndyJackson
    @OldHickoryAndyJackson 2 місяці тому

    Everyone was in a state of disbelief after Shiloh, the Hornets Nest was brutal

  • @wilsonpickett3881
    @wilsonpickett3881 2 місяці тому +2

    It poured like cats and dogs that night.

  • @paulbradford6475
    @paulbradford6475 2 місяці тому +1

    I haven't seen those scenes since 1964. I recall my parents talking about HTWWW saying that the movie couldn't decide if it was a musical (the Debbie Reynolds sing-a-long) or a war movie. Carol Baker was miscast. She was a bit too young to be George Pappard's mother...I reckon. However Walter Brennen played a pretty convincing river pirate.

    • @stvdagger8074
      @stvdagger8074 2 місяці тому +1

      She was 3 years younger than George Peppard.

    • @paulbradford6475
      @paulbradford6475 2 місяці тому

      @@stvdagger8074 Yup, that's perfect mis-casting.

  • @maestroclassico5801
    @maestroclassico5801 2 місяці тому

    Spencer Tracy narrating.....his voice commands

  • @johnnytheboy533
    @johnnytheboy533 2 місяці тому +1

    The Duke and Colonel Potter.

  • @cejannuzi
    @cejannuzi 2 місяці тому

    I'd forgotten Wayne did a Cameo as Sherman.

  • @projektkobra2247
    @projektkobra2247 Місяць тому

    That poor Mom....

  • @2011Matz
    @2011Matz Місяць тому

    I am not a John Wayne fan, but he makes a fair WT Sherman.

  • @jasonlettorale5177
    @jasonlettorale5177 Місяць тому

    Harry Morgan actually kind of looked like Grant. John Wayne did not look like Gen. Sherman. Super cool none the less. America needs more American movies!!!

  • @richardgrognard6394
    @richardgrognard6394 2 місяці тому +1

    longue vie aux confédérés

  • @WillDouglas-z1h
    @WillDouglas-z1h 2 місяці тому +3

    That's not General Grant. It's Col. Potter of the 4077th.

  • @nikoladedic6623
    @nikoladedic6623 2 місяці тому +2

    So, after the events of the Horse Soldiers, Marlowe was promoted to General and changed his name to William Tecumseh Sherman.
    XD

  • @bertmustin
    @bertmustin 2 місяці тому +2

    Grant is acting like he barely passed a math quiz.

  • @rickeuler5792
    @rickeuler5792 2 місяці тому +1

    This isn't after the battle. It's the night between the first and second day of battle.

  • @brentfriedland
    @brentfriedland 2 місяці тому

    "Well Grant, we've had the devil's own day, haven't we?" said Sherman. "Yep, but we'll lick 'em tomorrow." said Grant. Grant was relieved for a while. Shilow was the worst casualties of the war up until then and it was the real first battle in the US Civil War where both sides really stood and fought and attacked and defended. The Union did win that battle but it set the tone that this war was going to be bloody. It really had to do with the rebel PGT Beauregard that threw all of his troops at Sherman on the right and in the center and left Grant had them fall back to Pittsburgh Landing and take up defensive positions. From there the Union held it's ground and I think that is the fire that hardened and proved the Union Army of the West was the best and toughest Army.

  • @unclecreepy4324
    @unclecreepy4324 Місяць тому

    Fastest way to get promoted is to save the General's life.

  • @CaptainColdyron222
    @CaptainColdyron222 2 місяці тому +2

    Sherman: “Well, Grant, we’ve had the devil’s own day, haven’t we?”
    Grant: “Yes. Lick ‘em tomorrow, though.”

  • @classicgunstoday1972
    @classicgunstoday1972 2 місяці тому

    Only time John Wayne ever played a bad guy

  • @longrider42
    @longrider42 2 місяці тому

    No, it was after the battle of Corinth , when the south never smiled. My Great Great Grandfather fought at the battle of Shiloh. The Union won because their reinforcements got there first. This is not a bad part of the movie. And the battle of Shiloh was fought pretty much in hilly wooded land. With a few, very few open places. I was there in April of 2012.

  • @kidsniffer2654
    @kidsniffer2654 2 місяці тому +5

    We are on the brink of the sequel, stay tuned.

  • @gmansard641
    @gmansard641 Місяць тому

    Harry Morgan was a great actor, he appeared in so many movies alongside countless great stars. But I don't see him as General Grant. I think he'd make a better General Lee.

  • @jimmason1072
    @jimmason1072 2 місяці тому

    A who's who of American cinema.....😮

  • @doorswhofan
    @doorswhofan 2 місяці тому

    The Civil War meets the Korean Conflict meets the 60s FBI. :-)

  • @projektkobra2247
    @projektkobra2247 Місяць тому

    Back when Ohio was thought of as "The West".

  • @deadandburied7626
    @deadandburied7626 Місяць тому

    Part of the movie directed by John Ford

  • @d.m.3645
    @d.m.3645 2 місяці тому +2

    Ok, they should have switched actors for Sherman and Grant, height difference be d*mned.

  • @TheBelegur
    @TheBelegur 2 місяці тому +3

    Does anyone else think John Wayne and Harry Morgan should have reversed roles?

  • @ISIO-George
    @ISIO-George 2 місяці тому +2

    Not quite right on the battle. The battlefield was a sea of mud for most of the battle. There was no lack of confidence on Grant's part. The night of April 6th Sherman went to Grant to raise the subject of retreat. "Well, Grant, we've had the devil's own day, haven't we?" he began. Grant replied, "Yes. Lick'em tomorrow, though."

  • @stravinsky1300
    @stravinsky1300 2 місяці тому

    Well acted but largely fictional. Grant was the one confident in victory, and had he been relieved or resigned, Sherman would not have replaced him: there were other generals there who were senior to him. And the moment of reassurance between them, where Sherman persuaded Grant to stay with the army, did not happen until months after Shiloh.

  • @jeffwilsonfhb
    @jeffwilsonfhb 2 місяці тому

    Not AFTER, during. They're holding the rebs off until reinforced in the morning. Pittsburg Landing.

  • @BeautifuLakesStreamsBiologists
    @BeautifuLakesStreamsBiologists 2 місяці тому

    Harry Morgan!

  • @joejankoski8471
    @joejankoski8471 2 місяці тому +2

    Wayne as Sherman has to be one of the worst casting choices. He's Wayne playing Wayne playing Sherman.

    • @user-tg3tj2nq6v
      @user-tg3tj2nq6v 2 місяці тому

      He's always Wayne in any role he played and not just westerns roles. A very one-dimensional actor.

    • @Hal-k8p
      @Hal-k8p Місяць тому

      No..... probably the worst role he was ever cast as has to be Genghis Khan. The Conqueror is widely known to be the worst movie Wayne ever did. Curious if, as Genghis Khan, he ever called anyone 'pilgrim.' I wonder how you say 'pilgrim' in Mongolian.

  • @pilates68
    @pilates68 2 місяці тому

    Funny how Russ Tamblyn met his fate in two movies with the name “West “ and both times by being stabbed by an actor named George.

  • @marksnyder8022
    @marksnyder8022 2 місяці тому

    An old Hollywood dramatization of a conversation remembered for exactly two lines. It took place during the battle, not after. All day the Confederates pushed the Union troops back, threatening to push them into the Tennessee River. Grant forted up in a corner of the original field behind a deep ravine, where the Confederates couldn't easily attack Him. Sherman found him standing under a tree in the pouring rain smoking, as he had given up his headquarters for the use of the surgeons. Sherman said, "Well Grant, we've had the devil's own day." Grant replied "Yep, lick 'em tomorrow." The next day, Grant's freshly reinforced army drove the Confederates off the field and into retreat.

    • @Kevinwall-u8l
      @Kevinwall-u8l 2 місяці тому

      Johnston's aim was to push the Union away from the river and the protection of the gunboats and into the swamps.

    • @crapphone7744
      @crapphone7744 2 місяці тому

      @@marksnyder8022 as I recall, Sherman initially approached Grant for permission to withdraw, but on seeing the look in Grant's eye, changed his mind on what to say.

    • @marksnyder8022
      @marksnyder8022 Місяць тому

      @@crapphone7744 I don't recall reading that, but I wouldn't be surprised. The three things that Grant had in his pocket were these: 1)his men, while battered, were behind a deep ravine that was near suicide to cross, as the Confederates had already found out. The Union soldiers were crammed into a pocket on a hill by that ravine. Grant had placed a lot of artillery on top of it; 2) Wallace's lost division had arrived and was on the field; 3)Buell's men were arriving from the north, with some regiments from the 4th division already deployed along the river out of sight. Sherman would not have known this if he asked to withdraw, but I think he knew some of it. If he asked to withdraw, I think it must have been earlier when their ranks were partially broken.

  • @dinahnicest6525
    @dinahnicest6525 2 місяці тому

    A terrible tragedy in this movie gave us Lily Munster.

    • @maestroclassico5801
      @maestroclassico5801 2 місяці тому

      I'm curious what you mean? Morticia Addams Is in the film .... Carolyn Jones but where is the Lily Minster connection?

    • @dinahnicest6525
      @dinahnicest6525 2 місяці тому

      @@maestroclassico5801 Yvonne DeCarlo's husband was a stuntman. He got seriously injured in the trainwreck. I don't know if he ever worked again, but they needed money, so the old (by Hollywood's standards) movie star stepped down to a TV role.

    • @maestroclassico5801
      @maestroclassico5801 2 місяці тому +1

      @@dinahnicest6525 YES! I read that....the film roles dried up a bit and they needed money after his injury so she camped it up as Lily. Which she later said she had no regrets! She loved having young fans!

  • @b42baritone
    @b42baritone Місяць тому

    Grant could not stand the site of blood.

  • @MkVII
    @MkVII 2 місяці тому

    Sherman: "Well, Grant, we’ve had the devil’s own day, haven't we?" Grant: "Yes. Lick ‘em tomorrow though. " Pity they didn't put that exchange in.

  • @projektkobra2247
    @projektkobra2247 Місяць тому

    Always felt sorry for Texas Reb...he just wanted to bail...but saw a chance for fame.

  • @christophercooper4149
    @christophercooper4149 2 місяці тому +2

    John Wayne couldn’t act his way out of a paper bag.

    • @KaisasDad
      @KaisasDad 2 місяці тому

      Ever seen Sands of Iwo Jima ? His Sargent Stryker inspired men to enlist for many years.

  • @texasaggie8449
    @texasaggie8449 2 місяці тому

    Good movie. Damn yankees

  • @edwil111
    @edwil111 2 місяці тому

    part of me thinks this movie was sanitized propaganda (Manifest Destiny).
    Part of me says not. I mean the (we) Euros FARKED the Indians very time we could. Since 1607!
    . .is still a Cool movie. I visited Shiloh last year. I saw an Armadillo walking around there (first time for me as a native New Englander) ....sorry for the lecture! :)

    • @johnhallett5846
      @johnhallett5846 2 місяці тому

      wow and those who got their freedom acted just the same. Witness every country in the world. Its human nature; not societal. But then you woke jokes never are very smart. I mean look how the Mongols acted. Gonna blame Europe for that as well? The Chinese Emperors thousands of years earlier. Going to blame Europe for that as well?

    • @nancyjanzen5676
      @nancyjanzen5676 2 місяці тому

      Actually the Comanches got along well with the German settlers in Texas. The Germans never broke a deal.

  • @bikesnippets
    @bikesnippets 2 місяці тому

    Such an inaccurate film. Should change the name.

  • @otismygotis3670
    @otismygotis3670 Місяць тому

    The acting is absolutely terrible.

  • @TigerDude333
    @TigerDude333 2 місяці тому +2

    John Wayne as WT Sherman may be the worst historical casting ever.

    • @bertmustin
      @bertmustin 2 місяці тому +4

      John Wayne as Ghengis Khan.

    • @cejannuzi
      @cejannuzi 2 місяці тому +1

      @@bertmustin I was going to say, he was even worse as GK.

    • @gilson1982
      @gilson1982 2 місяці тому

      Why is that?