Omg, I'm South African and I can understand what they are saying, my second language is Afrikaans. My Aunty just told me that we are from Javanese decent. Wow
I’m Indonesian.. i was living in Pretoria for 3years.. yes some of the words both in bahasa Indonesia and Afrikaans are similar… it’s the dutch influence i believe 💗 If you travel to Cape Town, the Cape Malays are Indonesian descendants… In fact, the 1st person that brought Islam to South Africa is from Indonesia… He is Syekh Yusuf “Tuan Guru” So that’s why there’s “Macassar” in Western Cape named after Makasar, a city in South Sulawesi, Indonesia where Syekh Yusuf comes from 😊 Sadly, as per my experience… many South African’s knowledge about Indonesia was relatively low.. they know Bali, but didn’t know that Bali is a part of Indonesia.. Funny things they keep mistaken us for Thai, as the Thai population in South Africa is quite large.. around 3.000 people 😂 Well, out of 273.800.000 Indonesian population, only 300ish Indonesians are in South Africa… That’s the story for today.. Thank you for reading 😂
For indonesians watching this (especially javanese) how do u feel bout this, it's exactly like the chinese indonesian living in indonesia so if u guys feel your far away javanese brother in suriname u hope they will be treated well because us chinese indonesian is not just an immigrant here we are indonesian citizens just like your far away javanese brother they aren't indonesians they are suriname people just different ethnic. Point is if u treat us like outsiders remember your people (javanese) also is an outsider in their country so... spread love
I’m Chinese Indonesian, but I’ve never faced any discrimination, though I probably can’t say the same to my parents and grandparents. Greetings from the Netherlands 🇳🇱
@@anggitaputri3123 nah, now u know what the felling, same like Suriname Javanese, we Indonesia Chinese can't talk & speak Mandarin like our ancestor China.
Not only Chinese bruh, but we are here in Eastern Indonesian also got discrimination just cuz our skin is back and curly hair. This situation happened when we were in the Middle Indonesian like Java Island or other Islands
The good thing is, while they can’t speak Javanese, they still preserve their Javanese family name. It’s not a custom here in Indonesia so a lot of Javanese do not have Javanese name.
Karena di luar negeri memang wajib pny nama keluarga termasuk suriname dan itu gabisa dihilangin krn sejak lahir mrk bakal ngewarisin nama keluarga dari pihak bapak
@@yogaandika3573 yang wajib itu nama belakang, dan nama belakang belum tentu nama keluarga. Dalam kasusnya Jawa Suriname itu nama belakangnya ya nama keluarga, diambil dari leluhur mereka yang ke Suriname dari Jawa
It's the same situation among people of Javanese descent in Malaysia and Singapore. Many of us are no longer able to speak Javanese bcz our parents never immerse us in the Javanese language environment. Our parents prefer to speak in Bahasa Melayu instead bcz of the need to speak the language fluently (and free of Javanese accent) at school, work and in social interaction with other ethnic groups.
Salam, yup mostly 3rd and 4th gen Javanese descent in Malaysia no longer able to speak Javanese, it because inter- married among other ethnic, assimilation also play biggest factor, but to me as 3rd gen. I' m still able to speak and understand at least 'Jowo Kasar' we call it or Jowo Ngoko, my late father and late mother always speaking Javanese at home, that' s why I understand a little bit, outside we speak Bahasa Melayu, but it sad though when thinking our children lost their mother tongue language, I still remember my late grandmother said to me ' Ojo Nganti Ilang Boso Jowone' 😢....
@@febrianeki6668 Ya betul memang banyak anak2 muda yg lahir di luar asal mereka, malu/tidak mau belajar berbicara bahasa ibu mereka. Tapi itu juga bukan sepenuhnya salah mereka, karena orang tua juga tidak mau mengajari sejak dini untuk berbicara "bahasa ibu" ketika di rumah. Contohnya banyak teman2 saya di Jakarta yg asal-usulnya orang tuanya Sunda, tapi mereka tidak bisa bahasa Sunda cuma bisa bahasa Indonesia dialek jakarta.
Awak e Dewe podho wong jawane.....,kulit e ora isoh di colong, diapusi.... ,Eman² temen Yen wong Jawa kok ora isoh ngomong Jawa 😰😰....... Tulung..... Pak Dhe Bu Dhe ,Simbah sing isih bisa omong Jawa ,di ajari anak²e Wiwit saka omah e dewe²....🙏🏻🙏🏻 Supaya paseduluran wong Jawa Ning Endhi ae bisa langgeng.... Swuuun....🙏🏻🙏🏻
Hey even me dja. Ik spreek javaans and im black Rede waar om ik ben van marienburg geboren and im proud to speak the language Anyone that from suriname javaan said they cant speak it are djobol
Het is wel jammer dat de javaanse taal verloren gaat. Ik zelf kan niet zo goed javaans praten alhoewel ik het wel zo graag wilt leren praten. In huis praten wij meer nederlands en sranang tongo, is er mischien ergens in su waar er javaans word geleeerd? Want ik wil het wel zo graag willen vlot praten en het leren
The sad thing also happens in Java island itself, most youngsters nowadays can't speak Kromo, only the simple version. Even some Javanese kids who were born and raised in the capital city (Jakarta) can't speak it at all, and Idk they seem to be ashamed when they speak Javanese in public.
@@radhityaaji1160 geographically still a part java, and it's still dominant by javanese if you're willing to take a deeper look, even though they don't really show their javanese side
Yang terkenal dengan sebutan orang jawa adalah mereka orang yang berasal dari provinsi jawa tengah dan jawa timur,, walau kita masih satu pulau dengan jakarta dan jawa barat, tapi bahasa daerah kita sudah berbeda .. contohnya bahasa jawa dan bahasa sunda itu sangat jauh berbeda, walau kami masih di satu pulau jawa. .. Iki adalah keindahan dan keunikan Negata indonesia. ..
I am half java and banjar, I am 90s generation, daily indeed i speak Javanese but Suroboyo style, just ngoko, for the kromo inggil and madya I found the difficulty as well, so...yowes yok opo mane kepangan jaman, akeh arek enom nang jowo dewe seng kangelan kromo lak neng kuto, kecuali nang deso-deso ancen sek kuat ajaran bosone.
I hope they remember where they came from. Because basically we are really the same race and the same tribe, only separated by Dutch colonialism in the past
@@loetfiehakim4477 lol no, Javanese people in Suriname are forced to work by the Dutch, while the Chinese in Indonesia are due to the will of the Chinese themselves to come to Indonesia and settle here, Chinese were hated because they had helped the Dutch and Japanese colonization.
@@HudHarry it's hoax. In the fact Javanese came to Suriname because they have contract work with Dutch. After finished contract they can go back to Indonesia, but until Suriname independen from Dutch, they choose to stay in Suriname.
@@loetfiehakim4477 they were forced to sign contracts, and the Javanese at that time were illiterate because no one went to school (forbidden by the Dutch government). those who choose to stay are the second descendants, and think that Suriname is their hometown
aku wong jowo, urip neng jakarta, capitolcity ne indonesia, aku bangga njogo budoyo ku... salam kanggo dulur suriname in javanese.. living in jakarta, capitol city of indonesia... pround to keep the root my bro in Suriname.
Het in feite niemands schuld als de Javaanse taal verdwijnt onder de jongeren, want uiteindelijk moeten ze de Nederlandse taal ook machtig zijn ivm school en daarbij ook de Surinaamse taal, Sranan tango, die je via buren, vrienden of op straat leert, zodat je met andere bevolkingsgroepen kan communiceren en het is meegenomen als je de Javaanse taal nog machtig bent. ik heb het geleerd via ouders, mijn siwoh's en door veel te luisteren naar ouderen die Javaanse verhalen vertelden. ik vind de Javaanse taal nog steeds leuk, spreek het niet 100 %, maar kan me behelpen.Ik luister veel naar Javaanse muziek om het niet te vergeten.
Jangan kan di Suriname, di Indonesia saja banyak yang sudah tidak bisa lagi Bahasa Jawa, contoh nya anak muda yg kedua ortu nya asli org Jawa lalu merantau ke Jakarta, Bandung, Bogor, dll, mereka malah gabisa bahasa Jawa karena malu berbahasa Jawa, sok metropolitan
sedulurku kabeh ning Suriname and holland, mugi diparingi sehat kabeh yo... Ojo lali, ndelo Yutubku yo... Kulo Inyong. Awaku cerito nang bumi jawa tengah kota cilacap, mugi iso dadi gambaran ndelo ndelo suasana nang tanah jawa, Indonesia. Matur suwun
Mijn broeders en zusters in Suriname, wij zijn Javanen, en het is erg belangrijk om de taal van onze voorouders te spreken. Vergeet je Javaanse bloed niet! Kanggo dulur-dulurkoe ning Suriname, kene wong Jowo kudhu iso ngomong gawe basane mbah-mbahe kene. Ojo lali jowomu!
As a Javanese who live in Java. This video is actually quite sad to watch knowing that my language is disappearing among my own people in Suriname. There are some signs of this happening too here, in Java because the domination of Indonesian (Standardized Malay) but I hope it won't happen, not in the near future, or not at all. (Thanks to the rising of the Javanese music that is currently happening here in Indonesia)
Javanese has disapperared among the Cape Malays 14 0 years ago as a great percentage were Javanese but they spoke more Malay as the Bugis, Makassarese, Mel;aly,Mandar , Sumbawa, Balinese and Minangkabau, Maluku decendent malays were more and Melayu of Batavia was language of education and religion.
@@mrastazwanan8803 These people are part of a diaspora. You cant expect them to keep culture and traditions alive in a foreign country. Its a miracle that the javanese have kept the culture strong in surinam eventho having to survive in a place where javanese language does nothing for you.
You all should keep the language. The British didn't allow us Hindustanis in trinidad to keep our language and a huge part of our culture was lost. There's nothing to be ashamed about keeping your ancestral tongue
Appreciate Mantje Karso ❤.. im from Indonesia and I enjoy their performances.. its one of their way to remind Javanese language to Suriname young generations
Ach joh. Mijn kinderen en ik zijn ook in NL geboren en ik kunnen ons goed verstaanbaar maken in het Javaans. Zo ook in het Surinaams. Oudere javanen waarderen dat. Tevens is het meegenomen als je het kan verstaan en spreken. De veel voorkomende opmerking die wij dan krijgen is 'Wasi kentangè pasi tog inter ngomong djowo'.
I speak some Ngoko, my love for Indonesia and Java in particular is only getting bigger as I become older. The Dutch have committed a big crime by luring uneducated Javanese to work in Suriname and exploiting us for decades on plantations. I feel displaced in away and I wished Indonesia had some sort of law to make it easier for diaspora to return or retire in Java.
Javanese ppl in surinam will never forget who they are nor where they came from. Just because newer generations dont grow up using the language doesnt mean they dont know the culture and traditions etc. The culture is preserved in surinam and in the Netherlands so there is no need for sadness lol
@@polyness5962 apa kamu belajar sejarah ?, saya orang jawa dan tinggal di pulau jawa. Pulau dengan candi terbanyak dan bahkan candi terbesar di dunia, sampai sekarang nama orang jawa masih menggunakan nama sanskrit. Pengaruh india sangat kuat di jawa
@@Fj-xt2ug Tidak pernah ada yang menyebutkan adanya migrasi masif dari India ke pulau Jawa, Mas. Seperti halnya daerah dan negara indosphere lain, tentu saja Jawa memiliki banyak pengaruh dari India, terutama istilah-istilah Sansekerta. Walaupun ada percampuran darah, tidak semua masyarakat Jawa memiliki darah India, itu hanya terjadi di sekolompok orang saja. DNA statistik orang Jawa pun lebih dominan kepada Austronesia dan Austroasiatic. Sangat disayangkan UA-cam tidak memiliki fitur pengiriman gambar. Maka dari itu genetik kita lebih dekat ke orang-orang Kamboja, Thailand, dan pribumi Taiwan (bukan etnis Han yang sering kamu jumpa di drama loh ya).
@@Fj-xt2ug Itu pengaruh budaya, bukan genetik. Orang Jawa terbukti genetik dominannya itu antara Austronesia atau Austroastiatik. Masak iya setiap muslim bernama Arab bakal punya muka Arab?
even in Java island, kids speaks bahasa Indonesia/Malay, because they are in school all day long, and in school the formal language is Bahasa Indonesia. some people in Big Cities like Jakarta, ashame to speak Java, because it is potraits as spoke by uneducated or low level status people compared to Jakarta/Betawi dialec/Language.
De javaanse taal behouden komt alleen in voordeel voor degene ( zoals u waarlijk) die zich nog verbonden willen voelen met van waar onze voorouders komen. Het is geen verplichting.
Natuurlijk is geen verplichting ,maar is de taal die je als Javaans moet of kunnen beheersen trots als een Javaans.Verbonden of niet je ben gewoon een Javaans OF JE BENT 'T NIET ...Jouw mening vindt ik wel een zielig verhaaltje ,is geen schande om je eigen taal te kunnen spreken en begrijpen..!
Nogmaals.De javaanse taal behouden komt alleen in voordeel voor degene ( volwassen zoals u) die zich nog verbonden willen voelen met de plaats van waar onze voorouders vandaan komen.
@@gsw8459 wie bent je en wat bent je,als je dat kun beantwoorden ...wilt ik verder met je in discussie ..Je moet trots zijn als een Javaans,als je dat niet in je hebt ,dan hebt je wel een probleem ,een taal is je identiteit ,je trots je afkomst ..ndase kopjok hahaha
@@dannkartodikromo1563 Discussie??? Ik maak alleen maar duidelijk dat u onze jongeren niet het gevoel moet geven dat ze "triest" of "zielig" zijn omdat ze de javaanse taal niet beheersen.
Jongeren van Javaanse komaf hebben geen fascisme meegekregen, daar ben ik blij mee... je hier druk om maken is identiteitspolitiek en daar hebben we samen geen moer aan...
Bro I’m Indonesian mixed minang and balinese but for some goddamn reason I’m more fluent in English than Indonesian or any other Indonesian language, IM NOT EVEN LIVING IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY
Cah... Eling'o asal usul buyut mu seko tanah Jowo, di uri uri Budoyo Jowo mu, Sak adoh adoh'e kowe lungo kowe tetep getih Jowo, wong Jowo ojo sampe lali Jowo ne...
Wong Sinau basa kuwi merga butoh, ora kur merga nguri-nguri budaya. Ning Kono sing kanggo basane kur basa Londo karo basa daerah e Kono dhewe (mboh opo jenenge lali aku) karo basa enggres. Mulane aja dipekso nganggo basa Jawa merga ora kenek digawe omong-omongan karo wong sak ndunyo.
Omg, I'm South African and I can understand what they are saying, my second language is Afrikaans. My Aunty just told me that we are from Javanese decent. Wow
Woww really.. nice to know.. greetings from Jakarta, Indonesia. Im also Javanese
Im Javanese from east java
Afrikaans is basically dutch
I’m Indonesian.. i was living in Pretoria for 3years.. yes some of the words both in bahasa Indonesia and Afrikaans are similar… it’s the dutch influence i believe 💗
If you travel to Cape Town, the Cape Malays are Indonesian descendants…
In fact, the 1st person that brought Islam to South Africa is from Indonesia… He is Syekh Yusuf “Tuan Guru”
So that’s why there’s “Macassar” in Western Cape named after Makasar, a city in South Sulawesi, Indonesia where Syekh Yusuf comes from 😊
Sadly, as per my experience… many South African’s knowledge about Indonesia was relatively low.. they know Bali, but didn’t know that Bali is a part of Indonesia..
Funny things they keep mistaken us for Thai, as the Thai population in South Africa is quite large.. around 3.000 people 😂
Well, out of 273.800.000 Indonesian population, only 300ish Indonesians are in South Africa…
That’s the story for today..
Thank you for reading 😂
In Madagascar also I believe
For indonesians watching this (especially javanese) how do u feel bout this, it's exactly like the chinese indonesian living in indonesia so if u guys feel your far away javanese brother in suriname u hope they will be treated well because us chinese indonesian is not just an immigrant here we are indonesian citizens just like your far away javanese brother they aren't indonesians they are suriname people just different ethnic. Point is if u treat us like outsiders remember your people (javanese) also is an outsider in their country so... spread love
I’m Chinese Indonesian, but I’ve never faced any discrimination, though I probably can’t say the same to my parents and grandparents. Greetings from the Netherlands 🇳🇱
nah, I'm Chinese. I knew that fell
Exactly same condition with Singaporean Malays, most gen Z and Millenials cant speak Malay anymore in favor of english
@@anggitaputri3123 nah, now u know what the felling, same like Suriname Javanese, we Indonesia Chinese can't talk & speak Mandarin like our ancestor China.
Not only Chinese bruh, but we are here in Eastern Indonesian also got discrimination just cuz our skin is back and curly hair. This situation happened when we were in the Middle Indonesian like Java Island or other Islands
The good thing is, while they can’t speak Javanese, they still preserve their Javanese family name. It’s not a custom here in Indonesia so a lot of Javanese do not have Javanese name.
Karena di luar negeri memang wajib pny nama keluarga termasuk suriname dan itu gabisa dihilangin krn sejak lahir mrk bakal ngewarisin nama keluarga dari pihak bapak
It's such a shame, really. People really think that having native names are shameful and comedians kept on mocking people with native names.
Name is important.. when people heard about "NGUYEN" people know that's a Vietnamese, Vietnam, Pho, etc. Muhammad, ahmad = arab, murphy = irish.
Dont be like pakistan and the malay who totally lost their identity, especially in their name. Its 100% arabized/hebrews
@@yogaandika3573 yang wajib itu nama belakang, dan nama belakang belum tentu nama keluarga. Dalam kasusnya Jawa Suriname itu nama belakangnya ya nama keluarga, diambil dari leluhur mereka yang ke Suriname dari Jawa
Sedulur sedulur Suriname, salam seka Kêdhiri, Jawa Wetan, Indonesia.. 🙏🏻
Ik probeer mijn dochter ook Surinaams (sranagtongo) als Javaanse woorden mee te geven thuis.
It's the same situation among people of Javanese descent in Malaysia and Singapore. Many of us are no longer able to speak Javanese bcz our parents never immerse us in the Javanese language environment. Our parents prefer to speak in Bahasa Melayu instead bcz of the need to speak the language fluently (and free of Javanese accent) at school, work and in social interaction with other ethnic groups.
Salam, yup mostly 3rd and 4th gen Javanese descent in Malaysia no longer able to speak Javanese, it because inter- married among other ethnic, assimilation also play biggest factor, but to me as 3rd gen. I' m still able to speak and understand at least 'Jowo Kasar' we call it or Jowo Ngoko, my late father and late mother always speaking Javanese at home, that' s why I understand a little bit, outside we speak Bahasa Melayu, but it sad though when thinking our children lost their mother tongue language, I still remember my late grandmother said to me ' Ojo Nganti Ilang Boso Jowone' 😢....
Berarti mentalnya beda dengan orang sunda. Orang sunda gak bakal malu atau bahkan lupa dengan darah/bahasa Sunda nya..
@@febrianeki6668 Ya betul memang banyak anak2 muda yg lahir di luar asal mereka, malu/tidak mau belajar berbicara bahasa ibu mereka. Tapi itu juga bukan sepenuhnya salah mereka, karena orang tua juga tidak mau mengajari sejak dini untuk berbicara "bahasa ibu" ketika di rumah. Contohnya banyak teman2 saya di Jakarta yg asal-usulnya orang tuanya Sunda, tapi mereka tidak bisa bahasa Sunda cuma bisa bahasa Indonesia dialek jakarta.
@@febrianeki6668 lah itu orang betawi literally orang2 sunda yang kawin campur terus mengadopsi bahasa Melayu gara2 Belanda
Awak e Dewe podho wong jawane.....,kulit e ora isoh di colong, diapusi.... ,Eman² temen Yen wong Jawa kok ora isoh ngomong Jawa 😰😰.......
Tulung..... Pak Dhe Bu Dhe ,Simbah sing isih bisa omong Jawa ,di ajari anak²e Wiwit saka omah e dewe²....🙏🏻🙏🏻
Supaya paseduluran wong Jawa Ning Endhi ae bisa langgeng....
Swuuun....🙏🏻🙏🏻
How do Javanese Surinamese and Indigenous Surinamese treat each other? Are most Javanese from Indonesia aware about the Javanese from Suriname?
Yes, I'm Javanese we know about Suriname and Javanese diaspora
Hey even me dja.
Ik spreek javaans and im black
Rede waar om ik ben van marienburg geboren and im proud to speak the language
Anyone that from suriname javaan said they cant speak it are djobol
I'm javanese and I can't speak javanese language. Ik ben tussen Aucaners opgegroeid op Moengo. Ga je me ook voor djobol uitmaken???
leuk hoor, dat je de Javaanse taal spreekt. het is altijd leuk om een andere taal te kunnen spreken.
Doe normaal jeetjes... typisch creool. Je komt dom en achtrlijk over. Het is niet je taal, is geen gewichtigheid dat je het kan spreken
what djobol means?
ja wtf is djobol 🤣
Mugi-mugi sedulur ning Suriname diberkati Gusti... 🥰
Orang Jawa di Suriname ya ini?
Jadi lucu ya Jawa di Suriname lain dari yang di Indonesia?
@@cargiewinata1963 iya, aku pikir karena sudah bercampur budaya ya... jadi unik... keren sih menurutku... jadi pengen ke sana
💋💋💋💋 be blessed too
Het is wel jammer dat de javaanse taal verloren gaat. Ik zelf kan niet zo goed javaans praten alhoewel ik het wel zo graag wilt leren praten. In huis praten wij meer nederlands en sranang tongo, is er mischien ergens in su waar er javaans word geleeerd? Want ik wil het wel zo graag willen vlot praten en het leren
The sad thing also happens in Java island itself, most youngsters nowadays can't speak Kromo, only the simple version.
Even some Javanese kids who were born and raised in the capital city (Jakarta) can't speak it at all, and Idk they seem to be ashamed when they speak Javanese in public.
Agreed, even the youngsters in my city (Malang) seems to reluctant to use Javanese in socmed..
sadly jakarta is not java at all.
@@radhityaaji1160 geographically still a part java, and it's still dominant by javanese if you're willing to take a deeper look, even though they don't really show their javanese side
bcuz people are jealous so they hate on javanese 🤣🤣
Yang terkenal dengan sebutan orang jawa adalah mereka orang yang berasal dari provinsi jawa tengah dan jawa timur,, walau kita masih satu pulau dengan jakarta dan jawa barat, tapi bahasa daerah kita sudah berbeda .. contohnya bahasa jawa dan bahasa sunda itu sangat jauh berbeda, walau kami masih di satu pulau jawa. ..
Iki adalah keindahan dan keunikan Negata indonesia. ..
I am half java and banjar, I am 90s generation, daily indeed i speak Javanese but Suroboyo style, just ngoko, for the kromo inggil and madya I found the difficulty as well, so...yowes yok opo mane kepangan jaman, akeh arek enom nang jowo dewe seng kangelan kromo lak neng kuto, kecuali nang deso-deso ancen sek kuat ajaran bosone.
🙏 Sembah nuwun Tesih nguri-uri budaya jawa
Ze jokken gewoon dat ze geen javaans kunn praten.ze maken hunzelf belachelyk.aan hun accent hoor je dat ze wel javaans kunn praten.
Wat een leuke docu over de Javaanse Cultuur. More please!
Mugi2 sedaya sedulur ng suriname diparingi sehat..its amazing ono wong iso ngomong boso jowo ng eropa ..sehat kabeh yo dulurr
Koreksi lur, iki ndek Suriname, suriname iku neng amerika selatan
@@kaksoispistev5403 ohiyo ng amerika selatan ya,,matur suwun wes di elingne mas
I hope they remember where they came from. Because basically we are really the same race and the same tribe, only separated by Dutch colonialism in the past
what do you think about Chinese Indonesian who lossing their culture and language?
I think it's same Case,right?
@@loetfiehakim4477 lol no, Javanese people in Suriname are forced to work by the Dutch, while the Chinese in Indonesia are due to the will of the Chinese themselves to come to Indonesia and settle here, Chinese were hated because they had helped the Dutch and Japanese colonization.
@@HudHarry it's hoax. In the fact Javanese came to Suriname because they have contract work with Dutch. After finished contract they can go back to Indonesia, but until Suriname independen from Dutch, they choose to stay in Suriname.
@@loetfiehakim4477 they were forced to sign contracts, and the Javanese at that time were illiterate because no one went to school (forbidden by the Dutch government). those who choose to stay are the second descendants, and think that Suriname is their hometown
@@HudHarry Can you provide evidence that the Javanese were forced to sign contracts with the Dutch?
This is a Dutch colonialism debt..
aku wong jowo, urip neng jakarta, capitolcity ne indonesia, aku bangga njogo budoyo ku... salam kanggo dulur suriname
in javanese.. living in jakarta, capitol city of indonesia... pround to keep the root my bro in Suriname.
Ra takok
Ora penting 😂
pop java haha, you must try "denny caknan"
Het in feite niemands schuld als de Javaanse taal verdwijnt onder de jongeren, want uiteindelijk moeten ze de Nederlandse taal ook machtig zijn ivm school en daarbij ook de Surinaamse taal, Sranan tango, die je via buren, vrienden of op straat leert, zodat je met andere bevolkingsgroepen kan communiceren en het is meegenomen als je de Javaanse taal nog machtig bent. ik heb het geleerd via ouders, mijn siwoh's en door veel te luisteren naar ouderen die Javaanse verhalen vertelden. ik vind de Javaanse taal nog steeds leuk, spreek het niet 100 %, maar kan me behelpen.Ik luister veel naar Javaanse muziek om het niet te vergeten.
5:38 subtitle / translations arent correct… but who cares, her voice is a good vibe anyway :).
Groeten uit Solo, Midden-Jawa - ID 🙏🏻🤘🏻
Jangan kan di Suriname, di Indonesia saja banyak yang sudah tidak bisa lagi Bahasa Jawa, contoh nya anak muda yg kedua ortu nya asli org Jawa lalu merantau ke Jakarta, Bandung, Bogor, dll, mereka malah gabisa bahasa Jawa karena malu berbahasa Jawa, sok metropolitan
sedulurku kabeh ning Suriname and holland, mugi diparingi sehat kabeh yo... Ojo lali, ndelo Yutubku yo... Kulo Inyong. Awaku cerito nang bumi jawa tengah kota cilacap, mugi iso dadi gambaran ndelo ndelo suasana nang tanah jawa, Indonesia. Matur suwun
Mijn broeders en zusters in Suriname, wij zijn Javanen, en het is erg belangrijk om de taal van onze voorouders te spreken. Vergeet je Javaanse bloed niet!
Kanggo dulur-dulurkoe ning Suriname, kene wong Jowo kudhu iso ngomong gawe basane mbah-mbahe kene. Ojo lali jowomu!
As a Javanese who live in Java. This video is actually quite sad to watch knowing that my language is disappearing among my own people in Suriname.
There are some signs of this happening too here, in Java because the domination of Indonesian (Standardized Malay) but I hope it won't happen, not in the near future, or not at all. (Thanks to the rising of the Javanese music that is currently happening here in Indonesia)
Javanese has disapperared among the Cape Malays 14 0 years ago as a great percentage were Javanese but they spoke more Malay as the Bugis, Makassarese, Mel;aly,Mandar , Sumbawa, Balinese and Minangkabau, Maluku decendent malays were more and Melayu of Batavia was language of education and religion.
@@mrastazwanan8803 These people are part of a diaspora. You cant expect them to keep culture and traditions alive in a foreign country. Its a miracle that the javanese have kept the culture strong in surinam eventho having to survive in a place where javanese language does nothing for you.
@@mrastazwanan8803 lol Javanese are not native in cape, either they adopt malay custom or go away simple.
Javanese never should disappear, however its importante to Java be a free land and nation to maintain your culture alive and strong.
nahh.. as long as Kraton Surakarta lan Jogja still exist, the Javanese hierarchy (Kromo-Ngoko) language would be still highly preserved i think.
You all should keep the language. The British didn't allow us Hindustanis in trinidad to keep our language and a huge part of our culture was lost. There's nothing to be ashamed about keeping your ancestral tongue
Appreciate Mantje Karso ❤.. im from Indonesia and I enjoy their performances.. its one of their way to remind Javanese language to Suriname young generations
Ayo jangan malu muda2, coba ngobrol boso jowo lah! 💪👌
Lah malah nganngo boso indo, pie mas e iki.
sampeyan wae malah nggo boso melayu udu boso jowo🥴
Ach joh. Mijn kinderen en ik zijn ook in NL geboren en ik kunnen ons goed verstaanbaar maken in het Javaans. Zo ook in het Surinaams.
Oudere javanen waarderen dat. Tevens is het meegenomen als je het kan verstaan en spreken. De veel voorkomende opmerking die wij dan krijgen is 'Wasi kentangè pasi tog inter ngomong djowo'.
Ik ben een hindoestaan en ik kan niet eens hindoestaans prnt maar ik verta ett well
I am Indonesian Javanese although my parents are Javanese but actually, i can't speak Javanese as well😁
So it's true, "Javanese people are no longer Javanese".
@@barbs896 if the people near them doesn't know Javanese of course they don't know
Aku orang Jawa Lampung,masih fasih bahasa Jawa walaupun Jawa Ngoko ,kalau Jawa yg halus tau dikit
Wong jowo ilang jowone. Kudu ono guru boso jowo neng suriname
Its so weird seeing that face cant speak java language 😭😭😭
It is understandable for them that cannot fully speak Javanese.
Ternyata enek kene akeh keturunan Jawa. Dalam dari Indonesia 🇮🇩
Ketarane lagu pop Jowo mantep neng Kono 👍
Mbak Sherefa cantik dan manis sekali wajahnya
Ik hou van jou ❤
Hello my nusantara people
The old lady just killed it 😅
Aku pengen ketemu = I want to meet you☑️
Aku pengen ketemu = I want to see you ❎
Pada biasa jawa ngapak ora ya? Hehehehe
Hello Sabbatical viewers
AAAAAch alles is te leren
Nopek Novian, Denny Caknan need to have concert and stand up here! Good to know there’s Javanese root in other country!
My new after retirement activity plan: teach javanese around the world
1st word=jancook 😂😂😂
Salam teko Suroboyo jawa timur Lor
very good content about javanese culture, btw does anyone here speak javanese? I'm Javanese, Indonesian. nice to meet you all
I speak some Ngoko, my love for Indonesia and Java in particular is only getting bigger as I become older. The Dutch have committed a big crime by luring uneducated Javanese to work in Suriname and exploiting us for decades on plantations. I feel displaced in away and I wished Indonesia had some sort of law to make it easier for diaspora to return or retire in Java.
Sad to see our distant relatives losing their ethnolinguistic identity.
kenapa bersedih? di saat orang chindo kehilangan etnilinguistik, orang china daratan tak bersedih...
Javanese ppl in surinam will never forget who they are nor where they came from. Just because newer generations dont grow up using the language doesnt mean they dont know the culture and traditions etc.
The culture is preserved in surinam and in the Netherlands so there is no need for sadness lol
@@Jblah ...I fully agree with you.
Jangankan suriname, saya keturunan jawa solo magelang dari ayah ibu aja ga bisa bahasa jawa sama sekali, karena lahir dan besar di jakarta
@@jungookookie413 harusnya kalo sama ayah-ibu pake bahasa Jawa
ojo nganti lali yo lurr marang jati diri dadi wong jowo....
Lha kui rupane jowo banget 🤣
Sudah luntur bahasa Jawa ...akan hilang ditelan waktu
Uwong tuwo sing kudu ngajari ngenalke basa jawa neng anak-anake.
Alhamdulillah aku jek neng jowo. Tapi mbah canggah ku wong londo 😭
Wong jowo sing manggon ing Kaledonia Baru
Jawa Sumatra hadir
Kulo saking magelang, central java...salam kenal kalian sedoyo mawon wonten suriname...🇮🇩🇸🇷
wong Jowo Suriname iku kebanyakan seko daerah magelang lho
Ze willen geen javaans lere prate maar ze wille wel Brazilians of hindoe leren prate wie hou j dan voor de gek
Panjenengan wong suriname toh?
Wow javanese in suriname are my dulur javanese.
Niki saking pundi njih, mboten saget ngendika basa jawi.
Suriname,wong jowo ing suriname isone mung gawe boso belanda
Theirs face are like me😂, im javanese
The javanese descendants in suriname or holland seen have more dark skin, than in javanese island
Karena di pulau jawa sendiri sudah banyak kawin campur jadi sedikit hilang pengaruh indianya,
@@Fj-xt2ug since when Javanese have Indian blood? They're mix of Austronesian, Austro-Asiatic, and a little bit Melanesian.
@@polyness5962 apa kamu belajar sejarah ?, saya orang jawa dan tinggal di pulau jawa. Pulau dengan candi terbanyak dan bahkan candi terbesar di dunia, sampai sekarang nama orang jawa masih menggunakan nama sanskrit. Pengaruh india sangat kuat di jawa
@@Fj-xt2ug Tidak pernah ada yang menyebutkan adanya migrasi masif dari India ke pulau Jawa, Mas. Seperti halnya daerah dan negara indosphere lain, tentu saja Jawa memiliki banyak pengaruh dari India, terutama istilah-istilah Sansekerta.
Walaupun ada percampuran darah, tidak semua masyarakat Jawa memiliki darah India, itu hanya terjadi di sekolompok orang saja. DNA statistik orang Jawa pun lebih dominan kepada Austronesia dan Austroasiatic. Sangat disayangkan UA-cam tidak memiliki fitur pengiriman gambar.
Maka dari itu genetik kita lebih dekat ke orang-orang Kamboja, Thailand, dan pribumi Taiwan (bukan etnis Han yang sering kamu jumpa di drama loh ya).
@@Fj-xt2ug Itu pengaruh budaya, bukan genetik. Orang Jawa terbukti genetik dominannya itu antara Austronesia atau Austroastiatik. Masak iya setiap muslim bernama Arab bakal punya muka Arab?
Dutch dulu², tidak membenarkan berucap BM, Jawa malah agama Islam pun tidak dibenarkan...
even in Java island, kids speaks bahasa Indonesia/Malay, because they are in school all day long, and in school the formal language is Bahasa Indonesia.
some people in Big Cities like Jakarta, ashame to speak Java, because it is potraits as spoke by uneducated or low level status people compared to Jakarta/Betawi dialec/Language.
they sound like hebrew baitulaham...not java...siji, loro, telu, papat,limo, nenem, pitu, wolu, songo....that just number...
And people from Jakarta and west java called people from Central and East Java, “Are you from Java?”
Dude, Jakarta and West Java are located in Java
Knp gak cover lagu jawa kyk deni atau ndarboy...pasti beliau beliau itu senang hati mengijinkan ...
Berapa banyak anak muda keturunan jawa yang tidak bisa berbahasa jawa , bahkan di negara mereka sendiri ,indonesia ,
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looks so weird.. 😶
they looked like my people.. but they speak dutch
Sam in indonesia Some Javanese kids in the big city to speak with parents with english language study in international school or indonesian
I am a Javanese living in France. Maturnuwun sanget sampun ngedamelaken vidéo punika
its ok my brothers and sisters.. even i am pure javanese. i ahrdly speak krama inggil in daily too TT^TT that so shame of me.but i am proud javanese
Itu bahasa utama yang digunakan bahasa apa ya? Apakah bahasa lokal? Kok seperti bahasa belanda
vind jammer.... wong Turunan Jowo ra iso ngomong Jowo.... groet van indonesia
They need KOPLO. they will understand faster
Heel triest...
De javaanse taal behouden komt alleen in voordeel voor degene ( zoals u waarlijk) die zich nog verbonden willen voelen met van waar onze voorouders komen. Het is geen verplichting.
Natuurlijk is geen verplichting ,maar is de taal die je als Javaans moet of kunnen beheersen trots als een Javaans.Verbonden of niet je ben gewoon een Javaans OF JE BENT
'T NIET ...Jouw mening vindt ik wel een zielig verhaaltje ,is geen schande om je eigen taal te kunnen spreken en begrijpen..!
Nogmaals.De javaanse taal behouden komt alleen in voordeel voor degene ( volwassen zoals u) die zich nog verbonden willen voelen met de plaats van waar onze voorouders vandaan komen.
@@gsw8459 wie bent je en wat bent je,als je dat kun beantwoorden ...wilt ik verder met je in discussie ..Je moet trots zijn als een Javaans,als je dat niet in je hebt ,dan hebt je wel een probleem ,een taal is je identiteit ,je trots je afkomst ..ndase kopjok hahaha
@@dannkartodikromo1563 Discussie??? Ik maak alleen maar duidelijk dat u onze jongeren niet het gevoel moet geven dat ze "triest" of "zielig" zijn omdat ze de javaanse taal niet beheersen.
Jongeren van Javaanse komaf hebben geen fascisme meegekregen, daar ben ik blij mee... je hier druk om maken is identiteitspolitiek en daar hebben we samen geen moer aan...
Goed gezegd, kondreman.
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Nice to meet Captain Does. We've met Mr. Salimin Ardjooetomo and his crew in 2008 in Surabaya.
how their skin is darker than native javanese here
Bro I’m Indonesian mixed minang and balinese but for some goddamn reason I’m more fluent in English than Indonesian or any other Indonesian language, IM NOT EVEN LIVING IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY
Hahaha shit happens bro
Djeneng ku ...
Umor ku...
Anahku....
..😀😀jowo gampang....
Java dibaca pake ejaan belanda jadi Yava.. rada aneh dengernya
Wong jowo sing ilang jowo ne
kayak kebanyakan orang cina di indo berarti wkwkwk
Greetings from Java-Indonesia🇮🇩
Greetings from Suriname
@@svenresosemito1824 i'm from jawa jember
Lagune bosone campur, basa jawa karo basa indonesia
Sangar lek.
Wong jowo ilang jowone, tap yo kepiye maneh..
Mugi Mugi sedulur suriname iso bahasa Java(Jawa)
praene wong² jowo nemen. salam teko jawa timur
Cah... Eling'o asal usul buyut mu seko tanah Jowo, di uri uri Budoyo Jowo mu, Sak adoh adoh'e kowe lungo kowe tetep getih Jowo, wong Jowo ojo sampe lali Jowo ne...
Wong Sinau basa kuwi merga butoh, ora kur merga nguri-nguri budaya. Ning Kono sing kanggo basane kur basa Londo karo basa daerah e Kono dhewe (mboh opo jenenge lali aku) karo basa enggres. Mulane aja dipekso nganggo basa Jawa merga ora kenek digawe omong-omongan karo wong sak ndunyo.
Jek Ono to seng basa Jawa wong caledonia
is any ngabers or jamet exist in there ?
Wong jowo orak bisa omong jowo..😢
Bahasa Jawa logat Belanda
Ze doen alsof boi.....belachelijk.