This is what I wish historical movie makers would keep in mind. The past was full of color. Even in the iron age men and women wore brightly colored clothing. Not as bright as modern dyes, but it wasn't all brown sack cloths and leather and fur.
hisotircal fiction does not equal a documentary film makers are concerned with creating an overall mood/impression more than sticking with 100% historical accuracy
@@bobloblaw9679Then make a fantasy movie set on another planet or an alternative reality on this one. Don't claim to set the action in a specific place and time, and make up random bullsh*t because you're too ignorant, lazy, pandering to other ignoramuses, and don't respect your own material and characters. Characters - yes, also fictional ones - exist in a specific reality that is NOT made up. Work with actual reality, and your movie will only be more powerful because of it. Actual reality and lived experience contains all the moods any filmmaker or artist will ever need. And more.
@@bobloblaw9679 Yeah but I can't help but think of Monty Python and the Holy Grail every time I see a historical movie where it's all drab brown and dirt and depression. You know that one scene where it end with the guy screaming "Help, Help! I'm being oppressed!" It starts with them literally mucking about in filth exclaiming what good filth this is. LOL. It's kind of funny to me that other movies unironically think past=covered in filth
@@Mojo_3.14 you started with a claim about the iron age and then gave as an example a film set in the Middle Ages, which is 2,000 years later. I doubt your assertion that clothing was colorful is realistic. While it’s true that natural dyes were available very early on it’s also true that the range was very limited and some colors were difficult to get, expensive and only worn by the nobility, like the purple of the Roman senators. We have even records of “dress laws” from the Middle Ages that prescribed which types of fabric and colors the different social classes were allowed to wear. But laws aside, I think you conflate what was available with what people could afford. Even nowadays where there’s real poverty there’s filth and depression and in the past the % of the population that lived in poverty was a lot higher than today. The dress shown in this video is a cloth sack. And if it’s been reconstructed based on a burial it probably belonged to a rich person. Tbc, I am not defending filmmakers who do a poor job at historical representation, but even going to other extreme with sweeping claims that lack nuance and solid evidence is wrong imo.
So refreshing to see people who actually know their craft doing reconstructions like this. I've seen too many museum exhibits where what was on the loom was basically sack-cloth that wouldn't keep a light breeze out. Well done to all involved!
We take a lot for granted today, don't we? Need a new pair of pants, run down to the store. Sure beats skinning an animal, tanning the leather, cutting it and stitching it into some semblance of wearable attire.
When I demo spinning at a Renaissance faire I frequently tell interested people to imagine the spindle spinning time that went into thread for the sail of a Viking ship.
@@janetsanders5356 It’s interesting that you say that, because ships’ sails are the items I ponder as well. I’m a professional artisan (theatrical scenic artist) and textile omnivore (with a particular interest in historic practices) so I have a particularly deep appreciation of the work our ancestors engaged in.
That loom Soared over my head, but I sure admire your use of the word simplicity! Hat's off to weavers!!!🎉🎉🎉 In classes I learned to take 'off the sheep raw' wool, card, spin. Dye, or not and spin (I embrace advanced technology and got electricity involved), luckily split, into even yarn. Love doing it.Then Crochet up a fine broadcloth. EZ, BUT looms get involved and grinding becomes the pace. That slow realized goal in tangled thread gene jumped out of my pool. My gifted mother could tat. I was unteachable.
Oh my goodness, this really was so incredibly well done! The textile creation and use itself, but also the narration of the process too: really interesting and informative. Thank you!
It is little wonder that weavers and looms were considered magical and powerful. The amount of care and intention and time poured into even the smallest cloth object is truly mind boggling to us now.
I believe the reconstruction of life in the Bronze age done at Leire came to the conclusion that clothing (making and caring for) occupied 25% of the hours worked in the society. Food (gathering, preparing, and eating) took about 20%.
That was cool 😎 A lot of work went into clothes back then, right up until the industrial age when machines made things easier. Modern people don’t realize how good we have it.
It's a shame that the translator wasn't also a crafter, for instance "forged iron shearing scissors" are "forged iron shears". The clay for the weights is baked (even if it wasn't fired), it's not "burnt". "Wool's hairs" are usually referred to as the "wool fibres" The "tiny wad of wool" is usually referred to as fleece, fibre supply, a nest or even a "floof". I'm a bit surprised that they were shown spinning from such small amounts of fibre, I would want to double check that they weren't also using a distaff back in the iron age. The spindle details involved some guess work, as I don't think there are any surviving spindles from the iron age, although there are lots of whorls. The spindle _may_ have been as shown but it could also have been what is called a hand spindle. Less likely but not entirely impossible is a supported spindle. The wool scouring process got left out of this film entirely and they'd have had to do some scouring if they wanted to dye the wool. They may also have used a mordant, otherwise the dye would have been what is called fugitive, that is, it doesn't hang around for long. The actual experimental archaeology they were doing was great and the crafters/archaeologists involved did a wonderful job.
A supported spindle probably would not spin wool strong enough to become warp. Drop spindles make worsted yarn. Supported spindles usually make woollen yarn. Hand held spindles with a disstaff could have been used.
Well done! I love seeing so many parts of the process shown. What a tedious job it was to make fabric. And such skill required! I imagine all fabric was treasured and cared for by those who wore it.
Such a fascinating work, I find handmade products very natural. My late great grandmother from Pakistan used to spin cotton using the old 'Great Wheel'.
A real historically honest masterpiece. Very long ago the qualities put into the dress was appreciated as fine by people exactly as we do. We are in some ways Very like the people who walked out of the first cave. In this, dressing so fine a love for all time, quite fully the same inside.
Beautiful dress! It’s amazing the amount of skill and labor that goes into to each piece of clothing. Even modern clothing (though not half as much as in the past) have so much work put into them. It really reminds me of how valuable our clothing is and why it used to be considered currency in the past.
Mind you that these People who did these textiles also had to basically kill a chicken, clean it, cook it and wash dishes afterwards, and that did not include taking care of the livestock, the garden etc. How in the world, these women and men survived is plain heroic to me! Kudos for these artisans who are keeping up with the crafts of their heritage, their culture. : )
Was this part of a larger documentary? I would be interested to know why they chose not to use a distaff, and why they went with drop spindle (as opposed to support spindle or in hand spindle).
Dress reminding of the Hyksos' clothes in the Egyptian Ibscha relief. Middle bronze age so very long time apart from Hammerum in Post Roman Iron age Notice the red blue and white patterns could hv been wowen of wool. The dark red color looks similar
That's how it was done on on wall-mounted looms. You can't beat the weft downwards on a warp-weighted loom, it would be impossible to roll it up to make more space for further weaving.
They sheared the sheep. Your script says cut the sheep, which would have been a disgrace to a skilled shearer. Wonderful video though, despite my carp!
Wonderful video! I'm glad people understand that primitive is not a synonym for stupid. However, maybe that was supposed to be 'the comprehensive knowledge,' not 'the incomprehensible knowledge' in the very last sentence? Just a thought.
Jeg skal snart forbi jer. Hvolris ligger ikke langt fra Viborg hvor jeg bor, så det er kun fedt at finde flere steder, men det er mest udenfor sæsonen jeg tager rundt.
never let it be said that iron age people were unsophisticated...bc I'm fairly confident that as a modern age human, all I heard as the narrator described the process was blah, blah, blah and I know I could never do what was just demonstrated...
This is what I wish historical movie makers would keep in mind. The past was full of color. Even in the iron age men and women wore brightly colored clothing. Not as bright as modern dyes, but it wasn't all brown sack cloths and leather and fur.
hisotircal fiction does not equal a documentary
film makers are concerned with creating an overall mood/impression more than sticking with 100% historical accuracy
Actually quite bright. This can be compared in Navajo rugs. Pre-aniline dyed rugs are brighter than what they are now.
@@bobloblaw9679Then make a fantasy movie set on another planet or an alternative reality on this one.
Don't claim to set the action in a specific place and time, and make up random bullsh*t because you're too ignorant, lazy, pandering to other ignoramuses, and don't respect your own material and characters.
Characters - yes, also fictional ones - exist in a specific reality that is NOT made up. Work with actual reality, and your movie will only be more powerful because of it.
Actual reality and lived experience contains all the moods any filmmaker or artist will ever need. And more.
@@bobloblaw9679 Yeah but I can't help but think of Monty Python and the Holy Grail every time I see a historical movie where it's all drab brown and dirt and depression. You know that one scene where it end with the guy screaming "Help, Help! I'm being oppressed!" It starts with them literally mucking about in filth exclaiming what good filth this is. LOL. It's kind of funny to me that other movies unironically think past=covered in filth
@@Mojo_3.14 you started with a claim about the iron age and then gave as an example a film set in the Middle Ages, which is 2,000 years later. I doubt your assertion that clothing was colorful is realistic. While it’s true that natural dyes were available very early on it’s also true that the range was very limited and some colors were difficult to get, expensive and only worn by the nobility, like the purple of the Roman senators. We have even records of “dress laws” from the Middle Ages that prescribed which types of fabric and colors the different social classes were allowed to wear. But laws aside, I think you conflate what was available with what people could afford. Even nowadays where there’s real poverty there’s filth and depression and in the past the % of the population that lived in poverty was a lot higher than today. The dress shown in this video is a cloth sack. And if it’s been reconstructed based on a burial it probably belonged to a rich person.
Tbc, I am not defending filmmakers who do a poor job at historical representation, but even going to other extreme with sweeping claims that lack nuance and solid evidence is wrong imo.
So refreshing to see people who actually know their craft doing reconstructions like this. I've seen too many museum exhibits where what was on the loom was basically sack-cloth that wouldn't keep a light breeze out. Well done to all involved!
The skill of everyone who worked on this project is simply remarkable. I can’t imagine how many hours of labor went into creating this garment.
We take a lot for granted today, don't we? Need a new pair of pants, run down to the store. Sure beats skinning an animal, tanning the leather, cutting it and stitching it into some semblance of wearable attire.
When I demo spinning at a Renaissance faire I frequently tell interested people to imagine the spindle spinning time that went into thread for the sail of a
Viking ship.
@@janetsanders5356 It’s interesting that you say that, because ships’ sails are the items I ponder as well.
I’m a professional artisan (theatrical scenic artist) and textile omnivore (with a particular interest in historic practices) so I have a particularly deep appreciation of the work our ancestors engaged in.
Can we take a moment to appreciate the masterful simplicity of the loom?
That loom Soared over my head, but I sure admire your use of the word simplicity! Hat's off to weavers!!!🎉🎉🎉
In classes I learned to take 'off the sheep raw' wool, card, spin. Dye, or not and spin (I embrace advanced technology and got electricity involved), luckily split, into even yarn. Love doing it.Then Crochet up a fine broadcloth. EZ, BUT looms get involved and grinding becomes the pace. That slow realized goal in tangled thread gene jumped out of my pool. My gifted mother could tat. I was unteachable.
Floor looms must have been a revolution at the time, wow.
The explanation of spinning is better than some drop spinning "tutorials"
Oh my goodness, this really was so incredibly well done! The textile creation and use itself, but also the narration of the process too: really interesting and informative. Thank you!
It is little wonder that weavers and looms were considered magical and powerful. The amount of care and intention and time poured into even the smallest cloth object is truly mind boggling to us now.
This vid shows the monumental work that goes into a garment.
I believe the reconstruction of life in the Bronze age done at Leire came to the conclusion that clothing (making and caring for) occupied 25% of the hours worked in the society. Food (gathering, preparing, and eating) took about 20%.
That was cool 😎 A lot of work went into clothes back then, right up until the industrial age when machines made things easier. Modern people don’t realize how good we have it.
Another UA-cam channel by Sally Pointer goes in depth on how to construct this type of loom.
Sally Pointer is the best. Occasionally she visits Denmark at the Medieval Center in Nykøbing Falster with a bunch of Archeology Students.
It's a shame that the translator wasn't also a crafter, for instance "forged iron shearing scissors" are "forged iron shears". The clay for the weights is baked (even if it wasn't fired), it's not "burnt".
"Wool's hairs" are usually referred to as the "wool fibres" The "tiny wad of wool" is usually referred to as fleece, fibre supply, a nest or even a "floof". I'm a bit surprised that they were shown spinning from such small amounts of fibre, I would want to double check that they weren't also using a distaff back in the iron age.
The spindle details involved some guess work, as I don't think there are any surviving spindles from the iron age, although there are lots of whorls. The spindle _may_ have been as shown but it could also have been what is called a hand spindle. Less likely but not entirely impossible is a supported spindle.
The wool scouring process got left out of this film entirely and they'd have had to do some scouring if they wanted to dye the wool. They may also have used a mordant, otherwise the dye would have been what is called fugitive, that is, it doesn't hang around for long.
The actual experimental archaeology they were doing was great and the crafters/archaeologists involved did a wonderful job.
yet miraculusly you who only understand English deciphered what was said in a language foreign to the person who scripted for the narator !
A supported spindle probably would not spin wool strong enough to become warp. Drop spindles make worsted yarn. Supported spindles usually make woollen yarn. Hand held spindles with a disstaff could have been used.
Even then they knew stripes had to be vertical ;)😂
This is beautiful!!
This was an incredibly informative and clear video! Thank you!
Beautiful. I’ve been knitting and crocheting for over 65 years. ❤
That was eye opening. I feel lazy and spoiled. We just don't appreciate how hard earned some of life's basic needs are. Thanks for sharing.
Well done! I love seeing so many parts of the process shown. What a tedious job it was to make fabric. And such skill required! I imagine all fabric was treasured and cared for by those who wore it.
Wow, amazing to be able spin the wool into that thin thread without the wool breaking.
Wool has scales on it. Makes it easy to
Facinating film!!! It is incredibly important to keep these skills active.The colours are wonderful and so much more attractive than synthetic dyes.
Have a comment for engagement purposes, because wow, everyone should see this!
So much care was taken in this presentation to show the skill required for each step of the process. Sheep to shoulders!
Such a fascinating work, I find handmade products very natural. My late great grandmother from Pakistan used to spin cotton using the old 'Great Wheel'.
A real historically honest masterpiece. Very long ago the qualities put into the dress was appreciated as fine by people exactly as we do. We are in some ways Very like the people who walked out of the first cave. In this, dressing so fine a love for all time, quite fully the same inside.
Best learning tool I have ever watched on utube. Many thanks for downloading this.
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Mad respect for the skills shown here! I love videos like this! Beautiful work! Thank you for making this.
Props to these people for keep preserving the method to educate more generations to come.
It is pretty cool this fasion still works just as it is today!
Beautiful dress! It’s amazing the amount of skill and labor that goes into to each piece of clothing. Even modern clothing (though not half as much as in the past) have so much work put into them. It really reminds me of how valuable our clothing is and why it used to be considered currency in the past.
Fascinating.. I love ancient crafts documentaries.. wow
This was absolutely fascinating! Thank you so much for putting it together to share with us
What a gorgeous shade of red. Could it have been from madder root?
Or mercury.
@@razorbackstudiosartchannel2941 400 years to early. Yes, madder root, also known in Denmark as krap.
Proof all spinsters were on the spectrum: spindles are the ultimate fidget toy.
What a beautiful process and garment.
Mind you that these People who did these textiles also had to basically kill a chicken, clean it, cook it and wash dishes afterwards, and that did not include taking care of the livestock, the garden etc. How in the world, these women and men survived is plain heroic to me! Kudos for these artisans who are keeping up with the crafts of their heritage, their culture. : )
FASCINATING! THANK YOU! The whole process is so complex!
Beautiful! Thank you for sharing!
Absolutely amazing. Thank you 🙂
Wow this is amazing thank you I’ve enjoyed watching this has given me inspiration to go out and learn more
Shearing scissors in the hands of an expert doesn't take "a long time."
Indeed. This fellow needed a bit of practice.
Amazing.
Love and greetings from Germany.
Brilliant explanation of weaving fabric. 👏
Nice to watch the process. «Oddly satisfying»
Really excellrnt explanation, and beautifully made. Thank you!
Lovely fabric!
Excellent. Thank you!
Beautiful crafts
Fascinating
Omg these people were brilliant
I am awestruck.
This is just amazing to me.
Awesome
Wonderful.
This was really intere!
*interesting 😄
Was this part of a larger documentary? I would be interested to know why they chose not to use a distaff, and why they went with drop spindle (as opposed to support spindle or in hand spindle).
they did not show the cleaning of the wool. it didn't just come off the sheep ready to spin.
Great
Is the start of the weaving a band weave? Not a tablet weave?
I think in the last few seconds you meant”comprehensive “ not “incomprehensible “
How many days would that have taken to spin, dye, and weave?
Wow!
Dress reminding of the Hyksos' clothes
in the Egyptian Ibscha relief.
Middle bronze age so very long time
apart from Hammerum in Post Roman Iron age
Notice the red blue and white patterns
could hv been wowen of wool.
The dark red color looks similar
The belt would have been woven too.
Interesting that she beats the weft upwards. Most are beaten downward towards the weaver.
That's how it was done on on wall-mounted looms. You can't beat the weft downwards on a warp-weighted loom, it would be impossible to roll it up to make more space for further weaving.
They sheared the sheep. Your script says cut the sheep, which would have been a disgrace to a skilled shearer. Wonderful video though, despite my carp!
Incomprehensible knowledge we have, huh?
Sorry, it's a bit hard to wrap my head around that statement.
Our clever girls ;)
Was the wool washed
Definitely had to be, but that's not shown in this video
Spændende. Men hvorfor ikke dansk med engelske undertekster, eller i det mindste danske undertekster?
Filmen findes også på dansk, søg på "Hammerum-pigens kjole" ua-cam.com/video/F5D7fqhLOpU/v-deo.html
Around 8:08: Shouldn't "incomprehensible" be "comprehensive"?
Wonderful video! I'm glad people understand that primitive is not a synonym for stupid. However, maybe that was supposed to be 'the comprehensive knowledge,' not 'the incomprehensible knowledge' in the very last sentence? Just a thought.
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The shepherds dog leads them in not the shepherd
THIS is early stone age tools
A rich girl of high status ?
Jeg skal snart forbi jer. Hvolris ligger ikke langt fra Viborg hvor jeg bor, så det er kun fedt at finde flere steder, men det er mest udenfor sæsonen jeg tager rundt.
Испортили такой плед!!! 😅 Взяли и надели...
never let it be said that iron age people were unsophisticated...bc I'm fairly confident that as a modern age human, all I heard as the narrator described the process was blah, blah, blah and I know I could never do what was just demonstrated...