SFIV - LTG Low Tier God vs Alex Myers (Sakura) - WNF2014 | Sep. 18, 2014「スト4」

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  • SFIV - LTG Low Tier God (Rolento, Rose) vs Alex Myers (Sakura) - Weds Night Fights 2014 (WNF2014)
    September 18, 2014 | Weds Night Fights 2014 Grudge Match Episode 2 (WNF2014)
    Stream: twitch.tv/leveluplive
    All content belongs to "Leveluplive" & "Capcom".
    #LTG #LowTierGod #StreetFighter #StreetFighter4 #StreetFighterIV #SF4 #SFV #ストリートファイターIV #スト4

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  • @editmanrgg2844
    @editmanrgg2844 Рік тому +279

    Dang back when LTG made a name for himself before Viscant sent him to the vortex of Ragequitting and deformity of his skill this match was the appetizer.

    • @majinlaw2383
      @majinlaw2383 Рік тому +8

      10 years

    • @galaxZtheghxst
      @galaxZtheghxst Рік тому +19

      ​@majinlaw2383 yeah 10 yrs and that ass whoopin is still legendary

    • @majinlaw2383
      @majinlaw2383 Рік тому +8

      @@galaxZtheghxst I was making a Yakuza reference since he had a kiryu pfp.
      Me saying "10 years" was mentioning a quote that nishiki said to kiryu (the mn I'm editmanrgg's pfp)
      The quote: "10 years in the joint made you a fucking pussy".
      If you're interested I recommend researching the English dub of Yakuza. (2005)
      I realize coincidentally this clip is almost 10 years old.

    • @TransitionedToAShark
      @TransitionedToAShark Рік тому

      Viscant drug cheat creep tho. What a weirdo he was

    • @ProjectStarLIGHTS
      @ProjectStarLIGHTS Рік тому

      Made a name for himself? LTG was always a loser.

  • @epicnerf1
    @epicnerf1 3 місяці тому +22

    This Low tier God was actually entertaining, because he was rough and aggro IRL, but at least in situations like this he took the loss and played along. Very accepting and thoughtful post game comment tbh, one that I said while he was playing myself. "You cant keep getting put in the corner". If dude kept this attitude in later years he'd be famous within the FGC, I think. But you know, for a better reason

  • @idioticeskimoe5149
    @idioticeskimoe5149 Рік тому +43

    5:58 "Full Charged Fireball, you know how to deal with that- Okay you don't know how to deal with that." Aris on point showing you gotta lower your expectations for LTG

  • @saitinclock238
    @saitinclock238 11 місяців тому +32

    Huge props to Alex Myers.
    The whole crowd was rooting for the bad guy in this scenario, and Myers pulled out on top regardless sticking with his character.

  • @Ragnarok1881
    @Ragnarok1881 Рік тому +91

    Dale had his cheering squad for both matches against Alex and viscant. 🤣

  • @Dakota-cz5od
    @Dakota-cz5od Рік тому +35

    Instant classic. Dale looked like was on the verge of crying pretty much the entire match.

  • @DPresidential
    @DPresidential 7 місяців тому +10

    It's actually insane how great of a presentation LowTierGod had with the chant and intro, etc.
    Had he nit become such an insidious personality, he'd be a Top streamer right now. Crazy.

  • @laurenmontgomery421
    @laurenmontgomery421 Рік тому +56

    It’s honestly kinda hilarious seeing how much LTG is loved and respected in the FGC before his de-evolution.

    • @aznthy
      @aznthy 5 місяців тому +1

      this is what happens when you're a trash person and it eventually comes out

    • @aznthy
      @aznthy 4 місяці тому +13

      yeah, until he opened his mouth.

    • @ratatoskrx5521
      @ratatoskrx5521 7 днів тому

      @@aznthyhe went full ROG in the FGC

  • @x-techgaming
    @x-techgaming Рік тому +18

    "Do you believe you're a better player than Alex?" -> "If I did, I wouldn't be here" Ah, well said, Champ!

  • @jafp1617
    @jafp1617 Рік тому +69

    Dale got busted and robusted in this match setup. Good job Alex Myers!

    • @primesc5838
      @primesc5838 Рік тому +6

      And nusted

    • @alfasiger4178
      @alfasiger4178 Рік тому

      @@primesc5838 Bustin, strokin, bustin, strokin, bustin bustin bustin

  • @DavidJr0917
    @DavidJr0917 Рік тому +39

    I like the commentary. They have great chemistry and they’re hilarious. Commentary today is just constant talking over eachother or they really just dont vibe with eachother

    • @Finfection
      @Finfection Рік тому +19

      I think the big difference is that back then people would just be themselves on commentary. Now everyone tries to put on their "announcer voice" when they commentate. It used to feel like there was way more personalities back then on commentary.

    • @DavidJr0917
      @DavidJr0917 Рік тому +1

      @@Finfection literally man. Key word: personalities.

    • @asadhus
      @asadhus 10 місяців тому +1

      True. Now all commentators do is predominantly dissect the game. Old ones used to add some flavor and were hilarious

  • @clubbedsandwich1128
    @clubbedsandwich1128 Рік тому +10

    "You know how to deal with that. Okay, you don't know how to deal with that..."

  • @Moustard434
    @Moustard434 Рік тому +46

    Aris was on LTGs meat the whole set lmao

  • @ukcitizen1158
    @ukcitizen1158 Рік тому +11

    LTG's smack talk is great, but 4 perfects says it all.....

  • @cheemoney
    @cheemoney 2 місяці тому +3

    "WHERE'S THE FUCKING ANTI-AIR MAN" lol hilarious.

  • @sol7967
    @sol7967 3 місяці тому +2

    LOL That face Alex makes when the crowd cheering LTG. Fucking hilarious

  • @AnalogLanguage
    @AnalogLanguage Рік тому +9

    Super Arcade....
    You had to be there!
    That bathroom was cursed tho!

  • @RushianRichard
    @RushianRichard Рік тому +34

    Never seen this before. I love all content with LTG, it's a rich history. 😜👍

    • @trime1015
      @trime1015 Рік тому +9

      rich history of getting _clapped_

    • @canecorso1282
      @canecorso1282 Рік тому +1

      Rich history? 😅😅😅😅 I can tell what u look like😅😅😅😅

    • @RushianRichard
      @RushianRichard Рік тому +3

      @@trime1015 Whatever, but rich it is. All that salt has been entertaining af since SFIV.

    • @RushianRichard
      @RushianRichard Рік тому +2

      @@canecorso1282 U stalker bro'? 😱

    • @canecorso1282
      @canecorso1282 Рік тому +1

      @@RushianRichardstalker? How so nerd?

  • @MetalSpineBrussian
    @MetalSpineBrussian 9 днів тому +1

    “Look at the flexing! NO ONE HAS ANY MUSCLES IN THIS ENTIRE CROWD!” 😅😂

  • @DANCERcow
    @DANCERcow Рік тому +28

    I heard Alex Meyers just turned 22 this week during the twitch rivals... How is that possible if this is from 2014 and he already looks 20 lol

  • @JayoO1980
    @JayoO1980 Рік тому +27

    I know this announcer that interviewed LTG is sick about the fact that the internet has these videos of him blowing LTG with no shame at all. And he can never get those videos taken down. There here.. forever. 😂

    • @debeb5148
      @debeb5148 Рік тому +23

      I can forgive homie, this was in a time period where ltg was more this hypermasculine jock more than a bully, jerk, racist, ect. The people at this event were more doing it for banter. Different time period, I can look past it

    • @hoopsgaming3268
      @hoopsgaming3268 Рік тому +12

      @@debeb5148That’s exactly it, well said.

    • @asadhus
      @asadhus 10 місяців тому

      Alex? Or Aris?

    • @sammyexx
      @sammyexx 3 місяці тому

      bro does not know that LTG was a genuinely cool dude that was liked by the FGC back in the day

    • @DrynSarcastic360
      @DrynSarcastic360 3 місяці тому +1

      What? That's Alex Valle, one of the most famous Street Fighter players and the best SF player from the 90s until the mid 2000s. Why should he be ashamed? You make no sense.

  • @adrianDaProduca
    @adrianDaProduca Рік тому +61

    SF4 is too scrubby. They should implement a system that uses Drive Rush and a drive impact mechanic. 1 frame links enable scrubs to excel.

    • @editmanrgg2844
      @editmanrgg2844 Рік тому +2

      Lol 😂😂😂😂

    • @KaptainKommissar
      @KaptainKommissar Рік тому +2

      isnt that game like 15 years old

    • @adrianDaProduca
      @adrianDaProduca Рік тому +15

      @@KaptainKommissar it was a joke about low tier god complaining about how sf6 is too scrubby and that he misses 1f links in sf4

    • @DauthEldrvaria
      @DauthEldrvaria Рік тому +2

      1F links that he doesn't use.

    • @aznthy
      @aznthy 5 місяців тому +1

      1F links because he doesn't know how to use it, he talks like he knows stuff but he's a poser.

  • @kay_keik7842
    @kay_keik7842 Рік тому +21

    Lmao dale complains about jab jab into special on sf 6 and said that didnt exist in sf4 yet you can clearly see him do jab jab into special

    • @drattyg8099
      @drattyg8099 Рік тому +11

      It was rampant in 4, it was deliberately changed in 5 because they didn't like how low risk it was to start big damage combos off lights.

    • @Reshi9984
      @Reshi9984 Рік тому

      Bros angry about Light confirms? Thats the weirdest shit to be angry about

  • @EnvyIXA
    @EnvyIXA 3 місяці тому +4

    Collecting perfects in 1 sets is crazy😂😂

  • @DauthEldrvaria
    @DauthEldrvaria Рік тому +12

    Yo LTG was kinda cool before he went crazy lol. Dunno if those people are going crazy as a troll or he really had people screaming but those plays he made definitely got genuine reactions. I even was impressed by those plays and his good defense.

    • @SM4SH3R
      @SM4SH3R 11 місяців тому +9

      Ya it's a fucking shame he chose to dive into the sea of salt and let his skills degrade frome acceptable to unable to compete and that happen before his total ban

  • @areyoutrippin9730
    @areyoutrippin9730 Рік тому +10

    I was genuily hyped by the fight lmao

  • @drriks0017
    @drriks0017 Рік тому +41

    LTG is generally the type of person society doesn't want or need

    • @fersalas3220
      @fersalas3220 Рік тому +5

      At least he has the Ballls to olay in front o millions of people jajaja

    • @vergilmustlive8066
      @vergilmustlive8066 Рік тому +2

      What??😂😂

    • @TheAlmightyPrime
      @TheAlmightyPrime Рік тому

      Nah that’s you

    • @kindasomeviews
      @kindasomeviews Рік тому +1

      Crazy how these mfs were cheering for Dale. Boy times were different back then

    • @turdferguson2
      @turdferguson2 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@TheAlmightyPrimegood oooooone

  • @KeefCounty
    @KeefCounty 2 місяці тому +4

    Dale with the Cuckenant right behind him 💀.

  • @La_Win69
    @La_Win69 Рік тому +18

    Aris lucky ltg didn’t ban and blacklist him from the whole tournament 😂

  • @pr1mesynister
    @pr1mesynister Рік тому +9

    Maan them commentators on this match and against Viscant were all on LTG D.

    • @gavinpowell4607
      @gavinpowell4607 6 днів тому

      Just goes to show.
      People are fucking morons.

  • @thejedioutcast804
    @thejedioutcast804 Рік тому +16

    LTG was always a decent/solid SF4 player, he just had a lot of gaps in his fundamentals, low technical knowledge, and weak mental.
    Even the Viscant set was quite competitive for a little more than half the set, it's just that LTG tilted out of control and not only lost to Viscant but lost to himself. I'm not even an LTG fanboy, Im just calling it how I see it.
    This was a great set between him and myers, hype energy from the crowd as well. :)

    • @lamarpray5324
      @lamarpray5324 Рік тому

      Bruh 22:05 had me like 😮😮😮😮😮😮

    • @debeb5148
      @debeb5148 Рік тому +6

      He is a camper who relies on your mistakes, drops combos, retreats for zero reason, he panics, he wakes up with punishable options.
      "Someone tell him to ANTI AIR!" the commentators called him out. He was only ever decent

    • @JohnEastmanExAttyAtLaw
      @JohnEastmanExAttyAtLaw Рік тому

      he plays all day long lol

    • @asadhus
      @asadhus 10 місяців тому

      @@lamarpray5324hella clean

  • @in4mus85
    @in4mus85 Рік тому +33

    So did he actually beat anyone at WNF? 😂

  • @nightshadeii9248
    @nightshadeii9248 Рік тому +4

    Dale got that ass banished to the shadow realm.

  • @rafaelcastro2591
    @rafaelcastro2591 Рік тому +7

    Low-tier self esteem someone has to have to root for Dale 😂

  • @TVindustries5000
    @TVindustries5000 Рік тому +10

    LTG groopies came out in droves for this one

  • @rawrdino7046
    @rawrdino7046 Рік тому +53

    So weird hearing people cheer for him

    • @sirleeproductions
      @sirleeproductions Рік тому +4

      yea, almost like it's a fighting game set

    • @rawrdino7046
      @rawrdino7046 Рік тому +5

      @@sirleeproductions I mean ltg

    • @vergilmustlive8066
      @vergilmustlive8066 Рік тому +1

      ⁠@@rawrdino7046yeah, it’s almost like there watching him play a fighting game😳😳

    • @ClareAmel
      @ClareAmel 12 днів тому

      ⁠​⁠@@vergilmustlive8066 Are you guys like pretending to be retarded or something? Genuinely asking. Or do you just not know anything about LTG? No one would cheer for him today, so it’s jarring hearing people cheer for him back when we didn’t know he was a deadbeat misogynist racist dad with a domestic violence restraining order filing on his record. Don’t know why you were being a smartass to that rawrdino guy.

  • @METAL-ADDICT
    @METAL-ADDICT Рік тому +3

    Lmfao that dudes Flapjack laugh bruh. 🤣😂

  • @fathergascoigne4609
    @fathergascoigne4609 Рік тому +2

    Whoa LTG, Snake Eyez, Aris and Alex Valle (atpRtsd) in the same room!

  • @cirosilva4146
    @cirosilva4146 Місяць тому

    Wasn’t Dale like 45 years old during this recording?

  • @MrTerror923
    @MrTerror923 Рік тому +5

    is LTG even that good? all the grudge matches i see him in he loses.

  • @wilcals5294
    @wilcals5294 Рік тому +14

    Look at it. It's not even peanut butter complexion.

    • @wilcals5294
      @wilcals5294 Рік тому +16

      ​@Red Covenant Cloak And yet you didn't deny what I said. Means you agree with me that he aint even close to a peanut butter complexion lmao!

    • @wilcals5294
      @wilcals5294 Рік тому +1

      @Red Covenant Cloak More like swollen bottom lip, chicken legs, crooked teeth, poop complexion deity. LMAO!

    • @DavidJr0917
      @DavidJr0917 Рік тому +6

      ⁠@@CovenantSOLDIER please have some self respect. Troll or not this is pure obsession

    • @harryballs6652
      @harryballs6652 Рік тому +5

      crispy ass burnt N has to adjust the colors on his stream lol

    • @turdferguson2
      @turdferguson2 3 місяці тому +4

      Lol were there some LTG nuthuggers in here and they deleted their comments?? That's hilarious

  • @acheronnchase6220
    @acheronnchase6220 2 місяці тому +3

    Fresh off the child abandonment 😂

  • @lolcowforever1021
    @lolcowforever1021 Рік тому +8

    Got the same combos he has today: backpedal and get rekt

  • @citypopradioFM
    @citypopradioFM Місяць тому

    Dale was ranting about Viscant on his stream a few years ago, brought up the WNF grudge match in his usual delusional cops, and then brought up this Myers one in his chat to make some bizarre point that Viscant was "racist" and made it mean. Then someone in his chat mentioned how Myers perfected Dale four times and Dale immediately yelled, "I wasn't perfected no four fucking times" when it's literally on video of him getting perfected three four in a FT5.

  • @fingerbvngbeng9851
    @fingerbvngbeng9851 5 місяців тому

    I love that LTG took off his shoes so he didn’t crease them lmao

  • @La_Win69
    @La_Win69 Рік тому +10

    Ltg’s been that bad for more than 8 years 😂

  • @AtomskNandaba
    @AtomskNandaba Рік тому +2

    Has LTG ever actually won in a tournament ? lol

  • @La_Win69
    @La_Win69 Рік тому +2

    ARIS?!
    ARIS JUST APPEARS OUT OF NOWHERE

  • @enthomorf
    @enthomorf Рік тому +2

    Why called him "Scumbag Myers"? If he won?

    • @マイク-w8g
      @マイク-w8g Рік тому

      Because it was the win on a timeout but Myers did bring it back amidst all that Low Tier Spam.

    • @enthomorf
      @enthomorf Рік тому +4

      @@マイク-w8g Still is not a good reason to called him that. Myers had played very well.

    • @マイク-w8g
      @マイク-w8g Рік тому +2

      @@enthomorf Exactly, he did a really good job all around. Especially those perfects. Dude's a dickrider.

    • @GreyMasker
      @GreyMasker Рік тому +3

      It's just ribbing - those guys all love Myers

  • @SlowJuro
    @SlowJuro Місяць тому

    Why is he a complete different person now days? Old clips of him don't seem that bad he's actually likable

    • @gavinpowell4607
      @gavinpowell4607 6 днів тому +1

      Because he is a narcissist. As narcissists get older they get much worse. Aging out is a huge thing for them. In his head he should be RobTV right now. That's what he really wants, but he went head to head against RobTV and lost 4-1. Now that guy hosts Capcom, successful UA-cam, Twitch etc. LTG is bitter.

  • @godlikenovauniverse1118
    @godlikenovauniverse1118 Рік тому +2

    Absolutely remarkable Ltg is my icon💯❤️‍🔥

  • @its_rima_yeah
    @its_rima_yeah Рік тому +5

    Change his name to Low Tear God 😢

  • @1CursedXD1
    @1CursedXD1 Рік тому +1

    Why tf would you want all these people cheering for you whilst you’re losing so bad

  • @randomanton
    @randomanton Рік тому +3

    Why be a God if you can only be Low Tier?

  • @FlyingMonkey208
    @FlyingMonkey208 5 місяців тому

    LowTierGod had potential man...

  • @WeightlessFlex
    @WeightlessFlex 2 місяці тому

    Aye yo watching this clip though you can see the roots of a lot of the stuff he bans people for

  • @WeightlessFlex
    @WeightlessFlex 2 місяці тому

    LTG has always been the WWE heel of the FGC. Y’all hate to love him to a point where you can’t tell if it’s real or fake

  • @cl0ckisg0d58
    @cl0ckisg0d58 Рік тому +2

    This dude spits on the floor inside?! Wtf

  • @biggiecheezits
    @biggiecheezits Рік тому +5

    Aris and dale really do be meat riding ltg everyday

  • @malygos9301
    @malygos9301 2 місяці тому

    Did he ever win? He had cheerleaders ever tourney and gets perfected lol

  • @BlackWeeeb
    @BlackWeeeb Рік тому +7

    25:05 story of all our lives in sf6

    • @MajorStart
      @MajorStart  Рік тому +4

      a flowchart character... obviously 😁

  • @kanyeeast42033
    @kanyeeast42033 9 місяців тому +1

    bro has LTg dale ever won any of these matches LOLOLOLOL every vid is him catching a fat L

  • @enthomorf
    @enthomorf Рік тому +3

    Based only by LTG's looks and behavior, we would never imagine that he does lot of rage quits, right? hahahahahhahaahah

  • @alfasiger4178
    @alfasiger4178 Рік тому

    Why does this LTG guy keeps getting beat?

    • @setoace
      @setoace Рік тому +2

      because he doesn't know how to adapt.

  • @DarthDimmadome
    @DarthDimmadome Рік тому +7

    Dale has always been this cringe?? I thought it was just recently.

  • @Hundredstory
    @Hundredstory Рік тому +3

    Damnit, I wanted LTG to win. Those ending combos were impressive .

  • @aaronstevenson4136
    @aaronstevenson4136 Рік тому +1

    Anybody can whip this dude.

  • @Wally_West
    @Wally_West 2 місяці тому

    The good old FGC before it was ruined by Esports

  • @necrolancers
    @necrolancers Рік тому +2

    I feel like low tier god da type o nigga to fart in the toilet and flush it

  • @danielvelkov116
    @danielvelkov116 Місяць тому

    im suprised he did not rage quit 1 time

  • @JaJo224
    @JaJo224 3 місяці тому

    Хоть он токсичный словно 314здец, но он также 314здец какой забавный.

  • @ELMlKO
    @ELMlKO Рік тому +4

    I hate how valle was siding for ltg

  • @yatheo2969
    @yatheo2969 7 місяців тому

    I miss Aris commentary

  • @JamalTheTitan
    @JamalTheTitan 3 місяці тому +1

    I miss the Toxic af era of the FGC

  • @chanceman9307
    @chanceman9307 Рік тому +1

    look what happens when your scared of somebody, u become their best fans

  • @StrawHatCloud4116
    @StrawHatCloud4116 Рік тому +2

    Lol people still play this 10/10 GAME

    • @Reshi9984
      @Reshi9984 Рік тому +1

      This match is from 2014

  • @r1konTheAutomator
    @r1konTheAutomator 3 місяці тому +2

    Its so god damn cringe watching all these people do his intro with him 🤢 whats wrong with you valle???

  • @chilltown1414
    @chilltown1414 Рік тому +2

    wait so he doesn't believe he's better? lol

    • @gavinpowell4607
      @gavinpowell4607 6 днів тому

      That... is actually what he said yep.
      Mentally untouchable by the way.

  • @HungarianWarHorse
    @HungarianWarHorse Рік тому +4

    That time a bunch of nerds bullied a jock

  • @TVindustries5000
    @TVindustries5000 Рік тому

    myyyyers i remember alex for his sakura

  • @digdug23
    @digdug23 Рік тому +1

    Never heard anyone cheer for who they wanted to lose.

  • @sammurphy3343
    @sammurphy3343 Рік тому +1

    It's like the WWE lol

  • @shinzilla4847
    @shinzilla4847 5 місяців тому +1

    This commentator is fucking awesome, “ohhh yea still alive huhn john”

  • @jay_5909
    @jay_5909 Рік тому +2

    Ltg looking 25 here

  • @UndeadDusty
    @UndeadDusty Рік тому +5

    Even though he lost , he's actually good at the game

    • @57Folhinha
      @57Folhinha Рік тому +11

      No, cope

    • @omegaweapon116
      @omegaweapon116 Рік тому +24

      He's alright. The problem is he thinks he's way better than what he is and doesn't try to get better

    • @michaelmcarthur2944
      @michaelmcarthur2944 Рік тому

      ​@@omegaweapon116ye this, he's probably a slightly above average player, but he refuses to follow his own motto of evolve and adapt, which means that almost anybody who tries to pick out patterns and learn their opponent mid match will be able to beat him.

  • @lumac1111
    @lumac1111 Рік тому +1

    God Tier Fraud! God Tier Fraud! God Tier Fraud!

  • @TheDon0715
    @TheDon0715 Рік тому +1

    why are they on LTG balls wth?

    • @sirleeproductions
      @sirleeproductions Рік тому

      it's what happens when you build a reputation ppl can actually fucc with, should be self explanatory

    • @TheDon0715
      @TheDon0715 Рік тому

      nah, commentators cant be like that... cant be biased.@@sirleeproductions

  • @TransitionedToAShark
    @TransitionedToAShark Рік тому

    I love cheap the game looked 😂 no background at all

  • @x-techgaming
    @x-techgaming Рік тому

    More like LoTearGuy

  • @5wisher5weet
    @5wisher5weet Рік тому +6

    This is the FGC before it went woke

  • @La_Win69
    @La_Win69 Рік тому +3

    I’ve never seen a more cringe inducing introduction as this video’s

  • @iconiclust
    @iconiclust 3 місяці тому +1

    That flow chart Sakura bs sucks 🤮

  • @ltdan1551
    @ltdan1551 Місяць тому

    I just started watching fighting games this year and ltg videos in last 3 days and I already know he gonna lose :( youtube is racist or some something every video is this guy losing

  • @facts-never-lies3160
    @facts-never-lies3160 Рік тому

    Ltg did prty good

  • @kyuuk3tsuki
    @kyuuk3tsuki Рік тому +1

    This moon cricket couldn't beat a 4 year old at chess.

  • @sparkybig9799
    @sparkybig9799 Рік тому +2

    As someone who perfected the art of back dashing i must say this game ltg got washed

  • @Love-Sensibility
    @Love-Sensibility Рік тому +6

    My man Valle is always the best host!👍

  • @MatthewWilliams-vt7hh
    @MatthewWilliams-vt7hh 4 місяці тому

    The host a bit old for a fan boy is he geeking out of thirsting for ltg