C'est exactement ce que je me disais. Il est caduc leur test :-/ Il aurait fallut au minimum un lest à l'emplacement du mat, avec un poids calculé pour reproduire le couple induit par le poids du gréement.
@@arverneexpatrie2463 même avec un lest, ça ne reproduirait pas la force qu'a la voile pleine de flotte ! Pour un coup que le type ne peut pas choquer bah la super zézette hightech servira juste à faire coucou aux avions ^^
Absolument d'accord. Mais a défaut de pouvoir reproduire la voile et l'eau (à moins de monter un vieux gréement réformé, la moindre des choses serait de reproduire l'équilibre des masses, sans quoi l'essai statique n'a aucun sens.
@@arverneexpatrie2463 La voile et le mât de ces voiliers de course lorsqu'ils se détendent et qu'il peut revenir à la normale ne signifient pas qu'il reviendra à la course, mais protégera l'équipage jusqu'à l'arrivée des secours.
C est completement debile de construire un tel " bateau ". J ai navigue beaucoup, mais avec un truc comme ca, j irais jamais en mer. Puis c est un vrai gaspillage d argent aussi, celui des investisseurs.
I would call this a failed test. It did not self right. If you need to move the weighted keel to one side for the boat to right its NO GOOD! Imagine this... transatlantic trip, all hell breaks loose and you find yourself upside down and not turning right side up. You then need to get to the control panel. What if you are injured and cannot get there? Or what do you do in the most probable case of the mechanism or control panel broken and the keel wont move? You drown out in the middle of the ocean is probably what happens.
Note there are no waves. In any conditions that could cause a capsize, there will be significant waves which will give the boat a nudge which will cause it to right itself. The automatic keel tilt just adds some extra to that nudge. So, no problem.
@@eternalephemera No sailor in the history of sailing has EVER relied on waves as a safety device, as you have described. This test it to make sure that under ANY conditions the boat will self right... and it should do so with zero influence from any outside forces, such as **chuckles** waves.. HAHAHAHAHA!
How on earth is a boat going to capsize in the first place without any external force applied to it, by strong wind or waves, say? Once capsized, the time for any self-righting yacht to rights itself is a function of time and external forces. This is a situation that involves physics, not thoughts and prayers.
@@eternalephemera Waves are not relied upon at any time in the self-righting ability of a boat hull. NEVER. The KEEL is what is the key to self-righting. Do you even know what a keel is? Or understand its function?
El mástil de estos veleros de regata cuando giran se suelta automáticamente junto con las velas y sí, volverá a la posición normal, ahora navegando para navegar nuevamente tendrá que pasar un muelle. Aunque las velas y el mástil pueden recuperarse, deben reemplazarse por seguridad.
@@boardelia a rally in the local harbor isnt what the comment was talking about. And that boat is flimsy as a napkin so better sell that scrap after a run or two.
What about when there's a tall mast keeping it from rolling back over...?
Crazystuffyousee it will roll back, it willl just be a lot slower.
@@officialWWM or it does not - if the mast is heavy enough :P
a floatation mast would help
Je voudrai bien voir la même mais cette fois ci mâté et gréé ! Ca ne doit pas être la même, quand t'as la voile en guise de palme sous le bateau….
C'est exactement ce que je me disais. Il est caduc leur test :-/
Il aurait fallut au minimum un lest à l'emplacement du mat, avec un poids calculé pour reproduire le couple induit par le poids du gréement.
@@arverneexpatrie2463 même avec un lest, ça ne reproduirait pas la force qu'a la voile pleine de flotte ! Pour un coup que le type ne peut pas choquer bah la super zézette hightech servira juste à faire coucou aux avions ^^
Absolument d'accord.
Mais a défaut de pouvoir reproduire la voile et l'eau (à moins de monter un vieux gréement réformé, la moindre des choses serait de reproduire l'équilibre des masses, sans quoi l'essai statique n'a aucun sens.
Sur ce type de bateau, en cas de dessalage, souvent le mat se brise, la quille permet seulement de "sauver" la coque et le skipper
@@arverneexpatrie2463 La voile et le mât de ces voiliers de course lorsqu'ils se détendent et qu'il peut revenir à la normale ne signifient pas qu'il reviendra à la course, mais protégera l'équipage jusqu'à l'arrivée des secours.
Bravos pour cette technologie.
Au port, ca marche !
IDK Last time I went sailing it went dead calm on us. Talk about things that suck.
That feeling... when you realize you forgot to add mast weight ;)
Unsheet. If you know what that actually means and Keep pushing the button asshole. Graphite masts weigh less than your dinner. Can you even float.
@@ji6050 Who is the asshole ? You ?
C est completement debile de construire un tel " bateau ". J ai navigue beaucoup, mais avec un truc comme ca, j irais jamais en mer. Puis c est un vrai gaspillage d argent aussi, celui des investisseurs.
Took to long with the mast it will be worse I would call that a borderline fail
I would call this a failed test. It did not self right. If you need to move the weighted keel to one side for the boat to right its NO GOOD! Imagine this... transatlantic trip, all hell breaks loose and you find yourself upside down and not turning right side up. You then need to get to the control panel. What if you are injured and cannot get there? Or what do you do in the most probable case of the mechanism or control panel broken and the keel wont move? You drown out in the middle of the ocean is probably what happens.
Hakapik I think you'll find the keel is an automatic thing that activates when inverted.
Note there are no waves. In any conditions that could cause a capsize, there will be significant waves which will give the boat a nudge which will cause it to right itself. The automatic keel tilt just adds some extra to that nudge. So, no problem.
@@eternalephemera No sailor in the history of sailing has EVER relied on waves as a safety device, as you have described. This test it to make sure that under ANY conditions the boat will self right... and it should do so with zero influence from any outside forces, such as **chuckles** waves.. HAHAHAHAHA!
How on earth is a boat going to capsize in the first place without any external force applied to it, by strong wind or waves, say?
Once capsized, the time for any self-righting yacht to rights itself is a function of time and external forces. This is a situation that involves physics, not thoughts and prayers.
@@eternalephemera Waves are not relied upon at any time in the self-righting ability of a boat hull. NEVER. The KEEL is what is the key to self-righting. Do you even know what a keel is? Or understand its function?
Absurdo el test. Con mástil y vela jamás volvera a su posición.
El mástil de estos veleros de regata cuando giran se suelta automáticamente junto con las velas y sí, volverá a la posición normal, ahora navegando para navegar nuevamente tendrá que pasar un muelle. Aunque las velas y el mástil pueden recuperarse, deben reemplazarse por seguridad.
@@hiltonruiz870 Pues, todo este tipo de barco es absurdo.
Gâchis de l'argent des clients. lamentable.
Exactement !
(50÷7)=(÷3) =9/5/2019.quel souffle
I've had many years of sailing and I wouldn't go offshore in that boat.
Ya WHY ??
Dont think shes built for passage although ive seen it done in worse.
Well you don't follow then, these kind of boats do some serious rallies for quite a while now.
@@boardelia a rally in the local harbor isnt what the comment was talking about. And that boat is flimsy as a napkin so better sell that scrap after a run or two.
@@michaelteeple8704 No man, they're designed to do the Vendee Globe race, check it.
And yes they do sell them for around 500k after 2-3 races !
Combien pèse la quille ?
Le poids du bulbe de quille est fixé à 3,1 tonnes par la jauge de l'IMOCA (sans compter l'aileron de quille dont j'ignore le poids)
está sem o mastro ai é fácil , com o mastro não vai desvirar nunca.
Does not look safe for open ocean.
Monohulls keep evolving...very soon they will become multihulls....lol
Super
lets see that under sail at seal