The Screening of History: Lincoln

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  • The Screening of History: Lincoln
    Date: Wednesday, April 03, 1991 - 07:00PM
    More video info at iop.harvard.ed...

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  • @lucianopavarotti2843
    @lucianopavarotti2843 3 роки тому +88

    What's so enjoyable about Vidal is the range of reference from the classics to popular culture, from the serious to the mocking, and the capacity to make you think again about the things you thought you knew

    • @blazodeolireta
      @blazodeolireta 3 роки тому +4

      the lessic itself. It is as good as your singing.

    • @jefolson6989
      @jefolson6989 2 роки тому +11

      I think many people never got how damn FUNNY Vidal was. Those who objected to his politic are also those with no sense of humor.

    • @sumpleA
      @sumpleA 2 роки тому +5

      Agreed, his humour is superb. It makes the difference. Will Self is someone I love to listen to for the same reason.

  • @DBEdwards
    @DBEdwards Рік тому +21

    What a show! Gore is entertaining, eloquent, honest, glib and profound. I could listen to him for hours. What a magnificent and articulate historian and philosopher and artist he is

  • @santanaxmuigai2064
    @santanaxmuigai2064 2 роки тому +34

    This man truly deserved so much more respect. What a true icon.

    • @NoOne-kr4jc
      @NoOne-kr4jc 2 роки тому +4

      I don't think respect is the right word. I think he deserved his books to have been read more. I'm sure it added to him being upset at the end of his life other than alcohol. He was upset how interest in books in general faded away and that the population did not smarten up by reading his literature, hence making the same mistakes.

  • @lukesgem1
    @lukesgem1 2 роки тому +16

    I've heard some great lectures IRL and on UA-cam but I think this is the very best I've come across. It's said that Gore Vidal "loved to piss on his enemies, but from a great height." Leave it to Vidal to rip Abraham Lincoln to shreds while lecturing at Harvard University all the way back in 1991, not to shock and boos but rapturous applause. This was a herculean feat of persuasion and he pulled it off with astounding eloquence.

  • @satyasyasatyasya5746
    @satyasyasatyasya5746 2 роки тому +14

    What a wonderful find! I've watched just about everything on YT featuring Gore Vidal and thought I'd seen everything, but this was new to me and such a boon!

  • @julianmarsh8384
    @julianmarsh8384 Рік тому +8

    Vidal was a force unto himself. A reporter once asked his father what he thought of some of the things Gore was saying, writing. His father replied, "Well, one thing I can tell you is that it has nothing to do with courage; Gore doesn't give a damn what anyone thinks about him."

  • @jamesanthony5681
    @jamesanthony5681 2 роки тому +12

    About ten years or so ago, I knew two people both in their 50's and college educated, who had never heard of Joseph Stalin. "Are you kidding me?", I asked. They weren't, and one of them got very defensive when I suggested they read a book on Stalin.
    Vidal is so right about studying history of the world in the schools.

    • @NineInchTyrone
      @NineInchTyrone Рік тому +1

      That is hard to believe but plausible

    • @MrJoeybabe25
      @MrJoeybabe25 Рік тому +2

      There is a political reason Joe Stalin is not so well known and everyone knows who Hitler was.
      Though Stalin was an even greater killer than Hitler (which took a lot of killing) he was an ally of the west during WWll and communism was largely given a pass by many in intellectual and academic circles.
      Eventually Khrushchev tore the veil from Stalin's crimes, but they are not as widely spread as Hitler's crimes.

    • @rafaelespinoza6530
      @rafaelespinoza6530 Рік тому +1

      Amen amendment 64 amen 💜💟

    • @cindymaceda2999
      @cindymaceda2999 6 місяців тому +2

      I once was invited to lunch by a good friend to meet her visiting father, an accomplished man of about 60 at the time (about 20 yrs ago) and an accomplished commercial pilot. He didn’t know the US was involved in WW1 and that 2M American soldiers fought in that war among 4M drafted. 113,000 Americans died in that war. He couldn’t believe it.

    • @jamesanthony5681
      @jamesanthony5681 6 місяців тому

      @@cindymaceda2999 That's more incredible than my story. I would have thought he would have had a relative or family member (father, perhaps?) that served in WWI.

  • @tarnopol
    @tarnopol 3 роки тому +44

    3:32. A man with true wit -- and very often true insight. I'm glad he's not here to see his country destroyed pretty much as he predicted.

    • @DNSMLT
      @DNSMLT Рік тому +3

      Everyone focused on Cali for politics. The truth is everything comes out from Massachusetts. Specifically Boston.

    • @rsr789
      @rsr789 Рік тому +3

      @@DNSMLT New Haven Connecticut as well.

    • @jamesanthony5681
      @jamesanthony5681 Рік тому

      Gore Vidal hates being dead, according to Dick Cavett.

  • @cindymaceda2999
    @cindymaceda2999 6 місяців тому +4

    What an amazing extemporaneous ( ! ) introduction from that gentleman!!! 😮 Who was that ?

  • @rkrw576
    @rkrw576 2 роки тому +5

    Damn, I had been a student there just a few years before this. Can't believe I missed old Gore, one of my favorites.

  • @dang328
    @dang328 7 місяців тому +4

    Title should have been: Gore Vidal; all by myself

  • @tonirose6776
    @tonirose6776 3 роки тому +29

    As a former teacher, I must heartily agree with his revolutionary scrapping of the current educational system. I am Canadian, and therefore was taught something of other counties' histories. The poor Americans know very little of other nations, save that they won the war for the Allies...still trotted out in UA-cam comments ad nauseum.

    • @dustywaxhead
      @dustywaxhead 3 роки тому +3

      When Americans study other countries it's often times used to weaponize and politicize events going on in our own country. You'll hear both Democrats and Republicans accuse of eachother of being fascists or just like the Nazis etc. It's a pity

    • @brandoncrusen9160
      @brandoncrusen9160 2 роки тому

      @@dustywaxhead the Republicans are fascists, however. Stereotyping necessarily misses the forest.

    • @nonamejoname6728
      @nonamejoname6728 2 роки тому +2

      But...this isn't true. I'm an American, and we learned more than just American history through the eyes of America. Thanks God you're a "former" teacher.

    • @wally1452
      @wally1452 2 роки тому

      Toni...Thank you! Oh, for the truth you tell so well to be told to the Americans...and that they would wake up before they are dead. My god, what a warmongering, dominating, fascist conglomeration we have had since T. Roosevelt (surely even before that.) Our history books are full of lies and our murdering our leaders and good men, known by a small number who care to read & investigate...the rest of America is asleep a long time. We will fall as a nation before we wake up.

    • @corryjookit7818
      @corryjookit7818 2 роки тому

      @@nonamejoname6728 So, what and which parts of American history have you learned? Please respond.

  • @rsr789
    @rsr789 Рік тому +5

    Unfortunately, Gore Vidal died four months before the release of Spielberg's Lincoln, one wonders what he would have thought of the film and Daniel Day-Lewis' portrayal.

    • @cindymaceda2999
      @cindymaceda2999 6 місяців тому

      😢

    • @johnhaug9612
      @johnhaug9612 6 місяців тому

      His dream casting of Abraham and Mary would have been James Taylor and Janis Joplin. He liked James Taylor's eyes. Grey like Lincoln.

  • @nejuw
    @nejuw 11 місяців тому +5

    he was so beautiful and smart.

  • @praisecritics6245
    @praisecritics6245 3 роки тому +7

    Are the first two lectures available too?

    • @tarnopol
      @tarnopol 3 роки тому +3

      I’d love to see them , too, but they’re all, in some form, in his book Screening History.

  • @markbailey1970
    @markbailey1970 3 роки тому +4

    Great book from a great author

  • @timothymeehan181
    @timothymeehan181 3 місяці тому +1

    Well, I love them both(Lincoln & Gore), or their work, I should say. But I’m 2/3 in, and this is looooong on Gore, and not simply short on Lincoln, but positively bereft of any real substantive engagement. It’d be interesting to know what the stipulations were on his invitation to speak here….🤔

  • @richardsimms251
    @richardsimms251 Місяць тому

    Excellent

  • @davidgrace2951
    @davidgrace2951 10 місяців тому +3

    A man screaming in the wilderness.

  • @sriyengar
    @sriyengar Рік тому +5

    Vidal an American treasure 🥃

  • @marysalisbury9270
    @marysalisbury9270 4 місяці тому +1

    I love Gore Vidal!

  • @karenkaren3189
    @karenkaren3189 Рік тому +1

    I don’t agree with him always but I always love to listen to him

  • @MFK1967
    @MFK1967 2 роки тому +4

    One of a kind

  • @NineInchTyrone
    @NineInchTyrone Рік тому +2

    These introducers love to hear 5hemselves talk

  • @davidmorales3804
    @davidmorales3804 2 роки тому +2

    Brilliant

  • @roberttulba6990
    @roberttulba6990 2 роки тому

    Do we have the other lectures?

  • @MrJoeybabe25
    @MrJoeybabe25 3 роки тому +2

    The purpose of the president during Grover Cleveland's day was to stand astride the Constitution and protect the state as best he could from the muddled misunderstanding and onslaught by the people.

    • @ritchievernon8099
      @ritchievernon8099 Рік тому

      All four of those people on Mount Rushmore were either slave owners or racist not one of those presidents belongs on Mount Rushmore

    • @ritchievernon8099
      @ritchievernon8099 Рік тому

      Jefferson and Washington are probably two of the biggest Hippocrites on Mount Rushmore they preached against slavery but they had slaves and Roosevelt was a racist

    • @trfghvtt680
      @trfghvtt680 Рік тому

      @@ritchievernon8099 U R a worthless troll. I’m sure your coward parents/owners are very proud.

    • @ritchievernon8099
      @ritchievernon8099 Рік тому

      @@trfghvtt680 but you wouldn't know the truth if it hit you in the face

  • @gwenjohn8673
    @gwenjohn8673 3 роки тому +4

    A treasure.

  • @ajarnwordsmith628
    @ajarnwordsmith628 Рік тому +2

    Vidal's profound and hilarious sense of irony is lost on his Harvard audience just as his lecture comes on point. I find this to be a troubling and ironic blind spot at Harvard; the Oxford Union, on the other hand, would have chortled at the irony of it all...

  • @johnnylongfeather3086
    @johnnylongfeather3086 2 роки тому +1

    1:15:05 Q & A begins

    • @jefolson6989
      @jefolson6989 2 роки тому +1

      Brilliant how Vidal takes a boring question and gives an unrelated fascinating
      '"answer" then moves on.

  • @rafaelespinoza6530
    @rafaelespinoza6530 Рік тому +2

    Amen amendment 64 👍✅✅

  • @GottaWannaDance
    @GottaWannaDance Рік тому +1

    Lincoln?
    Really?

  • @woodstock6792
    @woodstock6792 2 роки тому

    Shout out Utica NY

  • @tommyboy1653
    @tommyboy1653 2 роки тому

    Dam it I wanted the origin of Lincoln Nebraska.

    • @marysalisbury9270
      @marysalisbury9270 2 місяці тому

      I have an ancestral cousin who moved there in the 1800s. '

  • @Cosper79
    @Cosper79 3 роки тому +1

    JFK intro.

  • @wj2429
    @wj2429 11 місяців тому

    6:11

  • @josephmccracken8286
    @josephmccracken8286 Рік тому

    WOW. There is no way he actually talks and sounds like this. I hope not

  • @blanemylke4144
    @blanemylke4144 2 роки тому +1

    0_o 1:27:41

  • @youtubeuser-7098
    @youtubeuser-7098 2 роки тому +1

    20:00

  • @cg4428
    @cg4428 Рік тому

    This audience LOLOLOL

  • @veritas6335
    @veritas6335 Рік тому +1

    Gore focuses more on pithy remarks than he does on Lincoln. A good mind, but he often puts it to bad use.

    • @ukrandr
      @ukrandr Рік тому

      For less pithy remarks and more on Lincoln, read the novel; but begin with Burr and finish with Washington DC

  • @davidmorales3804
    @davidmorales3804 2 роки тому

    Brilliant