MK party can challenge IEC's Zuma decision - Tselane
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- Опубліковано 28 бер 2024
- uMkhonto we Sizwe party has vowed to include Jacob Zuma on its
parliamentary list after the IEC barred him. IEMSA chairperson Terry
Tselane says the MK party will be within its rights to challenge the
IEC's decision with the Electoral Court.
Tune into Newzroom Afrika DStv channel 405 for more.
Mr. Tselane thank you for your FAIRNESS !!!
These negative objections against individuals brew anger among the population. Once a protest might arise the country surfers even for these vendettas.
MK should nt be put in a corner by challenging IEC decision. We have eligible leaders in MK who he can choose from. IEC is probably in another mission to disturb or disqualify MK to take part in polls. Surely ANC is involved in this
That is truth
Very true, ANC is involved. MK is giving ANC sleepless night
You guys enjoy conspiracy theories. This is a straight forward constitutional matter. Tselane is just trying to be likable.
Chances to win the challenge very sleam 😢😮
@@sibongilemabaso2250not really
IEC is a fair body the constitution can not be changed because of one person.MK has cspable leaders.
Fair?
E actly
All the laws must be bend just to c Zuma suffering hayi mandoda
Tselane is a true patriot
He is afraid of MK.
Fair & Sober !!!
Also a hidden agenda somewhere
Will vote for MK and change the constitution 💚💚🖤🖤
And that's how U turn SA into Sudan with your brainless mindset....U must be a convicted convict yourself....
Who's going to amendment the constitution to pave the way for Zuma?
EFF, MK, ACT, ATM, PA
They must b able to make 2/3 majority of which combined they can't
Who is Zuma
Viva Mk Msholozi uyinkunzi ayatatazela amasela sihamba nawe Msholozi
😂ANC comrades bacabanga ukuthi kuyadlalwa la. Their removal from Presidency is very serious and important thing for South Africans to do.
To God be the glory, viva MK viva Jacob Zuma Viva
South African law is complex others were fingered in Zondo commission but they are on candidate list 😢
Then keep quite if you are not too sure cause when it was the anc you were too sure that anc''s case will be dismissed
He must also be striped off presidential benefits
Mele baqale ba stripe ugogo wakho uMaMbatha ama benefit ka sassa,,,le veza ndlebe leli eliwu Michael
When he becomes member of parliament, he'll lose presidential benefits. Unless all the opposition parties in assembly rally behind him for a president
Actually, Zuma is willing to risk to lose benefits so that he get that prosecution amnesty for him and son
Ronald lamula knows the truth sooner he will come out and inform the nation, the way forward.
Mr Tselane is a MK person
It's a law, we can't allow criminals to be faces of political parties
hating does not help, just watch the space
Which law,can you please explain about it
Explain the word criminal
The very special item or Christmas for you is a clap or isagila kancane nje nyoko
What about Ramaphosa is he not a criminal
CR17, phala phala
Is Gayton Mackenzie and Kenny Kunene of the PA eligible to stand though? They both served prison terms longer than 12 months.
The law says after 5 years then the person can contest
Zuma has not finished the 5 years after release from prison
U guys just jump to defend zuma without understanding
What is a case no of zuma.crime and contempt are two different things
Teri is suggesting zuma can resign from his criminal conviction and sentence.
Terri is a sucker
There is no criminal conviction against Zuma. There was incarceration for Contempt of Court in a civil matter
@@ohlangeni by its nature civil contempt has a hybrid procedure. It starts as a civil process seeking compliance with a court order. If the impugned conduct is not cured, it is escalated to attract criminal consequences namely conviction and sanction. Zuma ignorantly walked into this trap, for fear of adducing guffs under oath.
@@ndamanekandamanei1965 "It starts as a Civil process seeking compliance with a Court Order" - there was no court order that Zuma needed to comply with. The Zondo Commission was not competent to issue Court Orders, only Findings and Recommendations. Even if we all agree that a witness who abscond while under oath (as Zuma was) is subject to Contempt of Court charge and or ruling; conviction as well as sentencing requires a trial. Zuma was was ruled in Contempt without a trial, and was sentence for Contempt of court without a trial on aggravation or mitigation of sentence.
The truth is; State Capture Commission, a deep-state Broederbond initiative failed to produce evidence of Zuma's alleged corruption after running a 10 year Media war on Zuma on a corruption theme that proved a Disinformation politicking against a pro-Black leader threatening to dismantle the Apartheid Economy. Since there was no evidence against Zuma, the Commission went on a phishing expedition and when Zuma refused to play along; they pulled the infamous Zuma Law that they since 1997 they used against Winnie Mandela, against Julius Malema when still ANC Youth League President, against Zuma,, against Magashule, against Mkhwebane, against Judge Hlophe and against any future Black person deemed a threat to White South Africa's economy hegemony over Black people
Viva MK
HOW CAN ZUMA BID TO BE A MP THROUGH ANOTHER POLITICAL PARTY PRIOR TO LEAVE ANC. I DO UNDERSTAND THE REASON ANC DIDN'T EXPEL HIM YET.
There is a lot going on. Lily livered leadership plus sympathisers in NEC. There is some political calculation on coalition arithmetic and not burning bridges. They also didn’t want to give him ammunition for his victimhood charade…give him enough rope to reveal himself. He was itching for that expulsion excuse.
@@khaltsharivist365 THANKS TO SHARE YOUR VIEW RESPECTFULLY. LET US WAIT AND SEE HOW THIS MOVIE WILL END UP. I PERSONALLY BELIEVE ZUMA IS WRONG.
Zuma is desperate to have prosecution amnesty.
No matter what I ❎ vote for MK 🎉🎉❤
You need western education with your brainless mindset
Ofcourse you can challenge, that what due process is about. You exhaust all avenues & find creative ways to argue against Section 47 of the Constitution provides that:
(1) Every citizen who is qualified to vote for the National Assembly is eligible to be a member of the Assembly, except anyone who, after this section took effect, is convicted of an offence and sentenced to more than 12 months imprisonment without the option of a fine, either in the Republic, or outside if the conduct constituting the offence would have been an offence in the Republic.
“Therefore, this provision renders Former President JG Zuma disqualified to be on the list of any party contesting an election or to contest as an independent in the upcoming 2024 elections,” said the IEC.
The section further states that the disqualification under this paragraph ends five years after the sentence has been completed, which still bars Zuma since he has not finished five years out of jail. This means that Zuma will have to try his luck in the 2029 general elections.” From pro Zuma paper IOL.
Can anyone explain to me about Mr Zumas arrest and Mr MacKenzie umahluko
The rules are very clear and Mr Zuma is ineligible due to his criminal conviction. He is no different to any other in this respect.
Which section is that if I may ask
Zuma is desperate to have prosecution amnesty
This can be disqualified on the very basis of the invalidity of the sentence and subsequent arrest. I'm just not sure it's worth it., Pres Zuma can easily be president before the end of 2024. It's WE the people who will decide that.
You the people are much fewer than anticipated. MK will not even reach 5% nationally.
Challenging the sentence would be the matter of the Appeals Court not the IEC Court. Furthermore, the commission based the decision on the Constitution of the Republic. However, JZ knew this and planned an alternative in Duduzane and Mogoeng Mogoeng. Question is whether MKP leadership will support this🤷🏾♂️
@@molokomack332true
@@molokomack332 Clever blacks,Tribalists , haters supporting one another while we still haven't seen the 30 questions to phala phala answers?Seal donors of CR17 Marikana vists ?.. Banks hu manipulated the Rand in Zuma tenure y'all still supporting each other wit nonsense
Zuma will be on the ballot. Whether they like it or not.
There will be no protest in this country bcz of 1 person he must obey the rules of the country those who will try to protest will go straight to jail
Good trying zandisile. That's what your president said prior to July unrest. They were warned not to arrest JZ , the country will burn, they said it was fake news,old videos blah blah blah. Guess what happened?
The high court of Bloemfontein ruled that a decision to grant President Zuma parole by Commissioner Arthur Frasier was unlawful, President Zuma should go back to prison. Did he go? . Because they saw what happened. Put the interest of the country first, before the constitution because the constitution is nothing without the people,it remains the piece of paper. The will of the people will prevail. If the majority of the people want JZ in parliament he will go,if majority doesn't he won't.
Aag come on man we are talking about JZ here the person with no conscious.
Says who?
Watch the space, uzobona amehlo esbungu ke sizoyimisa I country
😂you are declaring this to who?
👑 KING zuma power MK
U Zuma ayisengothixwana we ANC yadinwa i ANC kukunyamezela amafonyofonyo wakhe
Mandela was sentenced 😂
Exactly
That was before our constitution.
Be open to mental freedom.
It's because he was arrested before democracy hence he was allowed stand for presidency
Did Mandela sentenced to jail by SA Democratic Government or by Apartheid Government
Siyabonga IEC for excluding him
Yini oyibongayo
@@DEEPLYGROOMED ngibonga umsembinzi umuhle
If yuo are staying on the earth please over understand that Mk have already taken KZN andGauteng.
Not Gauteng unamanga
Lies
If Zuma fights this anyhow through his words or courts, it would mean he WANTS to be president again contrary to what he says to his supporters. He is playing two games.
but his supporters want him to be the president, is not what he wants, is what his supporters want. Don't mix the two.
@@thokozanjapha1325 but it would prove that his supporters are illiterate or just foolish because the law states you cant be a president for more than 2 terms. The entire SA parliament will never change the constitution for JZ
Zuma is just a face of MKP Buthelezi of IFP in on the posters of IFP And will appear on the ballot but hater are dead silence because the job is simply to assassinate the Zuma character.
Keep your civil war inside of Kwazulu Natal. South Africa needs less of this crap and more emphasis on proper, corruption free governance for the good, honest people of South Africa. This is just an internal power struggle between two equally corrupt factions of what was the ANC, one retaining the ANC brand, the other masquerading under the MKP brand. Throw in the EFF and you have the Trifecta of the ANC splinter factions.
Who said anything about a Civil war in this interview? You are probably drunk.
Or they may ask for independence of KZN. By the way, they won't cos zulus love jozi
Yes please
Buthelezi namanje uku post kukhankaswa ngaye bathulile balwa me mk
Are you staying in the moon not to know about Ramaphosa's criminal acts in Phalaphala?
But Ramaphosa has not been convicted by the courts
New criminal acts but older acts(arms deal) not solved. We got to solve the older ones first
Mr Terry seems to be afraid of Zuma 😂😂😂😂
Lol by telling the truth 😂
Tselane is not captured
He is by fear for Zuma.
Tselane is a sucker
I an not a S. African but I am wondering trying to understand - what is Zuma going to do now that he was not able to do as the president. Baffling.
He stood inbetween ppl behind state capture n poor Africans, n now that he is gone we r feeling the heat😢
Don't allow that to baffle you. Leave it to S Africans
It’s precisely what he did not what he didn’t do that people want him back. He got rid of loadshedding.
Change the constitution, that is all.
You are not a South African sit down and keep quiet please South Africans are talking.
What a fair analyst, thank for weighing out truth and not being biased and push a certain narrative like other analysts.
Tselane should help us. His explanation is not clear on zuma case. What does the rules says on zuma case.
He tried to string together nothing, it was still nothing nonetheless. There is no there, there.
Everything is clear u just don't want to accept
@@mogauledwaba9629 idiocy does make sense to goofies, poor little Teri was merely dishing guffs left right and centre.
Zuma is way too clever than these ANC leadership and that's give them the sleep less nights 😂😂😂 thatha Zuma thatha
His not clever his supporters are criminals with no matric and he has numbers don't talk intelligence here. A 2 year old from Europe is more clever than zuma
ANC is led by stupid people, they shouldn't have fired Zuma in the ANC, so that they would be able to claim Zuma since Zuma himself said he still an ANC member.
Zuma was not fired by the ANC ,he decided to expel himself from the Anc by forming Mk party
@@nelsonnombo8731 uyazazi izinto ezenzekayo ezweni, uZuma was expelled in the ANC after ekhankasa ne MK, if bahlakaniphile babezomyeka kanjalo. Because uZuma akafani nami nawe or nanoma ubani nje oyi member ye ANC.
Zuma is still ANC member. They didn't fire him. By the way, Zuma wants ANC to fire him so that zulus can get riled up, then more votes.
Was zuma fired? Hay maan come up with facts
@@user-ww5qw8jd3b buza kwi ANC ngoba ziyakweqa.
Leave Zumq alone,he is old,he does not need all of this chaos he will fall on his own and MK will collapse after that.Mk is Zuma,Zumq is MK just like EFF is Malema and Malema is EFF.
😂 isazi sezombusazwe esiphuphule ithi wena uyafisa icollapse
No, we don't leave him alone. He wants to bring back Gupta
If his old wat he want in politics
@@mogauledwaba9629 you can ask that again
IEC WE WANT ZUMA TO BE OUR PRESIDENT
Zuma will bring Gupta
U and who
Are you staying in the moon not to know about Zuma case?
Which cas ?
What case
Engathi akuhambanga kahle lana😂😂😂
Mxm there are some mad people posting in here
May be yours
Why Msholozi can't got Ng to parliament why why
Still voting MK ✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿
Tsek U thief...get a job and stop stealing like zuma
The constitution may not be changed for one mafikizolo party just because they are anarchists and always threaten bloodshed. Zuma must respect the constitution. He is not above the law. Commentator why do you continue to talk about what you are not sure about???
What is the case of Zuma actually he's not guilty untill proven guilty this is the phalaphala shit
Winnie Mandela was having criminal record from apartheid, Zuma too have record from apartheid. Right now we talk about record that Zuma earned during democracy(2021)
Wrong. The Broederbond did to Winnie Mandela post-Apatheid (1998) what they did to Malema when he was ANC Youth League president, what they are doing to Zuma, Magashule, Mkhwebane and any futute progress (pro-Black) leader seeking to dismantle vestiges of Apartheid and continued domination of Black South Africans by White people
Nelson Mandela was coming from jail and became the president of the country