@@williamryan9195 I don’t have a choice with my edc right now as it’s not or, so yes I have to train to be as effective with it just on the iron sights. Hahahahaha. My rifles have optics though.
@@princevalencia8816 I'm a minimalist when it comes to firearms, EDC and optics. I laugh at people putting dots on their carry rigs.But my idea of defense and choice of carry are based on different criteria. So if you are option driven go for it. Maybe it will be an edge when you need it.
I have always been taught through courses to hold the grip basically to were your hands covered the entire part of the handle and no grip was showing. I have never tried to adjust my grip more forward until now. That was amazing and super impressive. Im definately going to go shoot some with a more forward grip and try to learn that. Made a lot of sense as far as eliminating recoil.
Leverage of grip force. You can squeeze a firearm as tight as you want, thats not going to mitigate the UP and DOWN movement of the muscle. Leverage on the base of the grip via the wrist and pinky will keep that muzzle from dancing. I learned that from Rick Crawley with AHT. And it works
1:45 min is just unbelievable. Okay, he's not that far away, but these two shots so perfectly in the nose in fractions of a second and at the same time very relaxed and easy to announce that he's doing it that way? Too crazy these pro shooters... .
I wish i had a range set up just like this at my house along with a 1000 yard range . It would be awsome if i could walk out my back door and put in some work to make myself better
It honestly does not take that much for a 25 yard range. Look at your backyard and buy one plate or tree at a time. The next thing you know you will have a range full.
I always held my support hand like his. I watched other videos and it made me think I shouldn’t hold it that way. Well since he seems to be the goat I am going back to holding it like he does.
There is another little secret that any top shooter will tell you….I am telling you that it’s not under power ammo but the last secret it is pull the palm for the throng hand foreword and the finger of the left hand push back the same amount of force, and the elbow flex and push in . Soo you can shoot like him
The size of his double tap groups are directly related to the short reset of the Glock trigger and its low bore axis. I observed this in the early '90s as an LEO when I switched from a 3rd Gen S&W to a Glock 19.
@@jamesday7344 He didn't say it was smooth or breaks like glass, he said it has a short reset. Also, different Gens have different triggers. Btw. I don't own any myself, but I'm attentive when I read.
@@jamesday7344 , the factory stock Gen 5 Glock 34 trigger is much better than previous Glocks. I tried one recently and it was even better than the Gen 5 Glock 17 I tried during that same session.
You think he wouldn't still be fast? I suppose you believed him when he said "it's all in the gun". He was being humble... Bob could beat just about anyone with any gun...
Great shots. Is the spring stock? I really believe the G34 is the best pistol for accuracy and combat. Just curious how that slide comes back so easily and virtually no recoil
Not to mention there are much better guns than Glock for quality, accuracy, features, price, and ready to go out of box. Most likely this is a trigger job helping here.
The old saying comes to mind when he planted those two on his nose…Amatuers practice till they get it right, pros practice till they don’t get it wrong. Shooting is like breathing for this guy.
There is talent, and there is skill. You can learn a skill, but you can never learn to be talented. This is natural propensity. He learned to enhance his talent through skill.
At this point he doesn’t need sights for targeting, it is all muscle memory now. Just look at what he wants to shoot and let his arms take over. They know what they are doing. I know it’s not exactly the same, but when I played pretty much professional paintball, you don’t use sights. You just use your eyes and let the body take over.
I love the education and video. Your expertise is far beyond what I could feasibly achieve. A question I have on several videos, are the power of the loads being used. I know Guns are tuned for competition, but running a factory gun with +p defense ammunition seems like a different animal. Maybe I just need more recoil practice than I can afford.
Hey Bob that’s a wicked DT brother I have to try your grip rolling the wrist further forward I have a Glock 23 gen 3 with the baldr mini Olight there is a little shelf like space where I rest my thumb of my left hand It helps control muzzle flip a lot
The gun isn't comped , so there's really nothing about the gun that helps cheat recoil , besides the fact that a 34 is a larger gun (which does help) .
Did he really tried to look inside the barrel after slapping loaded mag into the gun?!😮 0:25 Good example how over confidence suffocates safety. The shooting is spectacular though! Thank you for sharing
Similar to what I was taught in military. During a military qualification there is a lot of changing mags and other stuff, he has the advantage of standing still, but no doubt he’d score perfect 240
I really love your compounds, if I have a chance to revisit the US, (my daughter was born there) is it possible for me to spend sometimes at your compound and learn from you? Where could I learn about your provided course?
Man this is awesome shooting!! My question … is there a live fire drill the average shooter can practice to increase double tap proficiency… and is there also a dry fire exercise to back that up?
good job taran t, THIS YOUNG MAN IS LETHAL IN PISTOL SHOOTING, I SALUTE YOU COMRADE BOB VOGEL, HOLLYWOOD LOOKING MAN, NEW GENERATION OF SHOOTER AFTERDEADMAN BOB MUNDEN AND AGEING JERRY MICULEK, YOU ARE THE NEW PISTOL SENSATION!
10 time world 🏆 champion... Pretty obvious why. Reminds me other the Marty Robbins song, big iron. "Red hadn't cleared leather before a bullet ripped."
how come he drops the mag and taps it all the time? i can tell it's more of fidgeting thing with how often he does it, but is there any point in the first place?
I’m just as impressed at the accuracy without optics as I am with the speed of the double taps. I want to be like Bob when I grow up.
Optics are an option. Lot's of people think they are a must have these days like somehow you aren't as effective without them. That is a myth.
Me too
I want to be him now.
@@williamryan9195 I don’t have a choice with my edc right now as it’s not or, so yes I have to train to be as effective with it just on the iron sights. Hahahahaha. My rifles have optics though.
@@princevalencia8816 I'm a minimalist when it comes to firearms, EDC and optics. I laugh at people putting dots on their carry rigs.But my idea of defense and choice of carry are based on different criteria. So if you are option driven go for it. Maybe it will be an edge when you need it.
Bob's humble resume:
IPSC World Champion (Production)
IDPA World Champion (Stock Pistol)
4x USPSA National Champion (Production & Limited 10)
6x IDPA National Champion (Stock, Enhanced, Custom)
6x IDPA Indoor National Champion (Stock & Enhanced)
IPSC National Champion (Production)
3x Pro-Am Professional Champion (Limited & Open)
3x IDPA Carolina Cup Champion
6x USPSA Area Champion (Areas 5,6,8)
11x Indiana State Champion (USPSA & IDPA)
7x Ohio State Champion (USPSA & IDPA)
7x Michigan State Champion (USPSA & IDPA)
7x IDPA Great Lakes Regional Champion
Wow, he's pretty good
👍😘
Dear God....lol
He’s going places
..& that he’s accomplished so much at such a young age! I can say that ‘relatively,’ b/c I’m 62.🇺🇸 #2A 🇺🇸 #AmericaFirst 🇺🇸
thanks for reminding me how much i suck at shooting.
It's hard to afford getting so good. That's the plan.
@@alanrogs3990 dry firing is key. All the best shooters get most of their practice dry firing. Dry fire to practice, shoot to verify
@@er98ah Then I need to buy snap caps. 🤣
LOL, Right? Heheheh
@alanrogs3990
You don't need snap caps, nearly all modern pistols are able to be dry fired without any adverse effects in the firearm
Thank you for being generous with your technique. I learned a lot there in a short amount of time.
He’s got some serious press check, mag check ticks.
he will never accidentally discharge,,ever
Funny.. true story
I know the feeling 😂😂
Whatever works. If I could shoot like that I’d take the tics, and Tourette’s, and occasional wetting my pants.
I don't think that's a tick. I think that's him. Just being safe and being a professional
Damn, I think I learned more about grip from this video that all the others that I've watched combined.
Same here.
I have always been taught through courses to hold the grip basically to were your hands covered the entire part of the handle and no grip was showing. I have never tried to adjust my grip more forward until now. That was amazing and super impressive. Im definately going to go shoot some with a more forward grip and try to learn that. Made a lot of sense as far as eliminating recoil.
Leverage of grip force. You can squeeze a firearm as tight as you want, thats not going to mitigate the UP and DOWN movement of the muscle. Leverage on the base of the grip via the wrist and pinky will keep that muzzle from dancing. I learned that from Rick Crawley with AHT. And it works
He does make it look so easy . I always enjoy watching pro shooters .
Amazing, I think he displayed and explained it better than anyone else I've heard.
I watch this once every 3-4 months as a refresher. Plus for some crazy reason I love the music at the end.
Thank you Bob Vogel for the lesson on grip , and thanks Taran Tactical , for the video !
Bob Vogel, real life John wick!
Keanu is the real life John wick? Have u not seen him on the range?
@@StrangeTamer178 Isn't this the same range? I swear it looks the same as the range that Keanu was training at.
Tttwytuttque
@@StrangeTamer178 Exactly 💥💥💥
@@JojoJuhbo Ya this is where Keanu shoots
This is my favorite video of Bob. I can't count how many times I have shared this.
I started shooting they way he does and absolutely have more control on muzzle flip.
Bob was playing with some Captains of Crush grip trainers at a class I was in with him... he's not a massive guy, but his hand strength is insane!!
He is amazing! I’ve never seen something this amazing! I’d love more videos like this! Thank you for this video.
THE MAN THE MYTH THE LEGEND, BOB VOGEL! Nicely done!
1:45 min is just unbelievable. Okay, he's not that far away, but these two shots so perfectly in the nose in fractions of a second and at the same time very relaxed and easy to announce that he's doing it that way? Too crazy these pro shooters... .
Unbelievable shooting, but this man is so good , that is almost unreal. But the evidence is there 😱👍
Holy crap, Bob is incredible! Thanks for the awesome video.
The fact I can get this education free blows my mind.
Amazing !!! Little to none muzzle flip !
one of my favorite videos, should be titled "Thats crazy Bob!”
I wish i had a range set up just like this at my house along with a 1000 yard range . It would be awsome if i could walk out my back door and put in some work to make myself better
It honestly does not take that much for a 25 yard range. Look at your backyard and buy one plate or tree at a time. The next thing you know you will have a range full.
My next home will not be in the burbs for this exact reason.
Even in slowmo he shoots faster than me.
I always held my support hand like his. I watched other videos and it made me think I shouldn’t hold it that way. Well since he seems to be the goat I am going back to holding it like he does.
That Glock is super super light too. Very impressive
He wholeheartedly recommends the new breed of Austrians
That was impressive. I have always put my finger on the front of the trigger guard. That leverage does help to lessen muzzle flip.
"that's Crazy, Bob" I believe that remark sums up perfectly Bob shooting skills
Thanks for an amazing video they are soooo great. It looked like a lot of fun with great information for everyone.
Bob Vogel needs his own movie or something, he’s a living Raylan Givens.
He's a hell of a nice dude on top of his incredible shooting skill and accomplishments!
The lack of recoil in the slow mo is insane. I thought for sure they were using under powered rounds
There is another little secret that any top shooter will tell you….I am telling you that it’s not under power ammo but the last secret it is pull the palm for the throng hand foreword and the finger of the left hand push back the same amount of force, and the elbow flex and push in . Soo you can shoot like him
controlling recoil VS trying to brace the recoil. few thousand rounds and good posture will improve your shooting
@@Alessandromarangoni123
👍😘
Wow. I am adjusting my grip. Very impressed
Respect!! Gives you something to aspire to.
2023, he's still at the top of the game
Really demonstrated how technique and practice transcend platforms. There's dudes with 5K 2011s trying to shoot groups 4x that size and time.
The size of his double tap groups are directly related to the short reset of the Glock trigger and its low bore axis. I observed this in the early '90s as an LEO when I switched from a 3rd Gen S&W to a Glock 19.
That shitty staple gun trigger?
@@jamesday7344
He didn't say it was smooth or breaks like glass, he said it has a short reset.
Also, different Gens have different triggers. Btw. I don't own any myself, but I'm attentive when I read.
@@jamesday7344 , the factory stock Gen 5 Glock 34 trigger is much better than previous Glocks. I tried one recently and it was even better than the Gen 5 Glock 17 I tried during that same session.
I have one of your JW Glock 34 combat masters and I love it.
This guy is no joke, modern gunfighter!!!!!
As long as he's standing still and nobody is shooting back.
@@devonwilliams5909he was swat so he can definitely handle being shot back at
Damn! That’s pretty crazy, Bob! 😮
Didn’t see the name in the title but when I heard “Bob” I thought: Oh must be Bob Vogel. 💪💪👍
now lets see that without a fully customized gun. maybe a straight out of the box G17
Also its labled as a "How to" video, but it was mostly a "see how good I am" video.
You think he wouldn't still be fast? I suppose you believed him when he said "it's all in the gun". He was being humble... Bob could beat just about anyone with any gun...
Great shots. Is the spring stock? I really believe the G34 is the best pistol for accuracy and combat. Just curious how that slide comes back so easily and virtually no recoil
Something tells me having a Glock with more work done on it that the stock gun costs “helps”
definitely does but that’s still 95% skill
Not to mention there are much better guns than Glock for quality, accuracy, features, price, and ready to go out of box. Most likely this is a trigger job helping here.
Yeah but having the slide cut like that hurts with recoil because it’s lighter, so at least some of the mods don’t help keeping it flat.
@@1014p such as?
The old saying comes to mind when he planted those two on his nose…Amatuers practice till they get it right, pros practice till they don’t get it wrong. Shooting is like breathing for this guy.
There is talent, and there is skill. You can learn a skill, but you can never learn to be talented. This is natural propensity. He learned to enhance his talent through skill.
We call that next level. Agreed.
Talent is just focus
At this point he doesn’t need sights for targeting, it is all muscle memory now.
Just look at what he wants to shoot and let his arms take over. They know what they are doing.
I know it’s not exactly the same, but when I played pretty much professional paintball, you don’t use sights. You just use your eyes and let the body take over.
Bob Vogel has amazing skills!
Impressive markmanship. An expert shooter indeed. He has Accuracy and speed.
I love the education and video.
Your expertise is far beyond what I could feasibly achieve.
A question I have on several videos, are the power of the loads being used. I know Guns are tuned for competition, but running a factory gun with +p defense ammunition seems like a different animal. Maybe I just need more recoil practice than I can afford.
Irons sights too. Some say the grip angle is wrong for the Glock, but I've found that the slight downward position pre-tensions for recoil.
This is an important pistol technique and should be the default for combat shots
This really just motivated me to get out and train more with my G19 I just did an unboxing video of🔥🔥🔥 nice shooting!!
My thoughts exactly - this movie-special-affects level shooting. WOW
Ya gotta love mixing the Combat Master with the music from a Dirty Harry movie! Magnum Force if I recall correctly……
Great guest to have on! Someone closer to your abilities.
Seeing is believing! Wooow. That's extraordinarily outstanding. Bob Vogel vs Taran Butler?
Brilliant details and shooting . Thank you!
Bob is pretty sick with any handgun!
The accuracy is amazing!
Frickin NICE shooting! That's the shit there. Wow! Thank you for the demonstration.
I just can't watch this enough. Looks easy, but sure BV put in the work to get to this point.
Hey Bob that’s a wicked DT brother I have to try your grip rolling the wrist further forward I have a Glock 23 gen 3 with the baldr mini Olight there is a little shelf like space where I rest my thumb of my left hand It helps control muzzle flip a lot
5:40... He mag dumps his Heart!! My God! So skilled.
This video was 5 years ago, but Vogel is a beast
6:09 WHHHHHOOOOO THAT RUN WAS CLEAAAANN 🧼
me and my buddies have used a grip like that for 15 years. Way before it was popular.
Thank you for sharing, amazing shooting skills!
Would be nice to see the recoil control with an umodified/enhanced production pistol.
The gun isn't comped , so there's really nothing about the gun that helps cheat recoil , besides the fact that a 34 is a larger gun (which does help) .
@@davidgaines8607stippling, undercut trigger guard and lightened slide does help
This guy is a machine
I hope I'm on the same side as this guy when the SHTF!
now do this Bob
That's crazy Bob
Insane. One of the best!
Did he really tried to look inside the barrel after slapping loaded mag into the gun?!😮 0:25
Good example how over confidence suffocates safety.
The shooting is spectacular though!
Thank you for sharing
Similar to what I was taught in military. During a military qualification there is a lot of changing mags and other stuff, he has the advantage of standing still, but no doubt he’d score perfect 240
I really love your compounds, if I have a chance to revisit the US, (my daughter was born there) is it possible for me to spend sometimes at your compound and learn from you? Where could I learn about your provided course?
*GOOD INTRO.... "MAGNUM FORCE!!"*
Man this is awesome shooting!! My question … is there a live fire drill the average shooter can practice to increase double tap proficiency… and is there also a dry fire exercise to back that up?
Informative. Will try applying those techniques.
Is that Kirsten Joy Wiess on the cover shot blowing that barrel? Nice.
good job taran t, THIS YOUNG MAN IS LETHAL IN PISTOL SHOOTING, I SALUTE YOU COMRADE BOB VOGEL, HOLLYWOOD LOOKING MAN, NEW GENERATION OF SHOOTER AFTERDEADMAN BOB MUNDEN AND AGEING JERRY MICULEK, YOU ARE THE NEW PISTOL SENSATION!
Wow............. Insane groups...... Impressive.
I know this is old, but what was he checking for when he wiggled the magazine?
10 time world 🏆 champion... Pretty obvious why. Reminds me other the Marty Robbins song, big iron. "Red hadn't cleared leather before a bullet ripped."
This is my North star. I will get to this level.
Bob is deep ops man thats crazy he did some wet work in his past 😭👌
I think I just learned where John Lovell's grip came from.
I'm sure you'll enjoy the custom porting, Bob
His shooting ticks are driving me wild.
how come he drops the mag and taps it all the time? i can tell it's more of fidgeting thing with how often he does it, but is there any point in the first place?
Would you do one with revolvers at some point?
Mindboggling every time I watch it Haha
OMG very impressive i guess that is after years and years and ammo and ammo also competition is outstanding skills
It's funny to watch him look at his gun. He's in love and the thing is literally a part of his body.
Very impressive. Does his support hand, thumb, engage with the inside trigger guard to help control flip?
Jerry & Bob. Like Michael & Kobe.
Which glock model is this and what trigger are you using? I find that the standard glock trigger makes it difficult to follow-up with a double tap.
“Don’t grip it like a monkey”. 😂. Roger that
Great tips first I have heard of the torque.
That dude is a machine awesome to watch