What Happens When We Die: The Jewish Perspective On Heaven and Hell.
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I am a Christian. I saw and heard you Rabbi several years also several other Rabbis including Tovia Singer and Michele Skoback. The Jewish version of the Holy Scriptures are awesome. and the explanations are worthy enough to find the creator, the God of Abraham Issac and Jacob. The oneness in God. Your teachings are extraordinary Rabbi, continue your good work.
This opened my eyes! I was born Jewish. Didn't practice much. Keep finding myself out of place at any church. The people are always very inviting but, I still feel out of place. I didn't practice the Jewish Faith much growing up because I didn't like school and was given the choice to continue Temple or not by age 11. I still enjoy Christmas with friends and family but, now that I'm 42yr old I'm going to go back to Temple and see how it makes me feel. I've lost both parents and feel sooo alone and want to turn to GOD in a comfortable way. Church is really okay but, I do not think it's my ultimate answer.
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Body and Spirit = Living Soul.When you die, you are no longer a Soul. The spirit returns to God, and the body returns to the ground.
Simple
Did god him or herslf tell you, no. Just your opinion, join the long que
Genesis 3:19 KJV - In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
Ecclesiastes 12:7 KJV - Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
Explain this story then Luke 16:19-31. This is way of soul after death
i take it as a jewish perspective and i respect it. i was very curious and wanted to know. Thank you for making this video.
Jiří Čtvrtníček it’s not true he has no sources , check Rabbi Yaron Reuven on his shiur on gehinom he has sources
Jews, Muslims, Christians, Hindus, etc... are all reincarnation religions. Be WOKE! Only Pure Land Buddhism can save YOU! NOT REINCARNATION HEAVENS/HELLS RELIGIONS!
Shamar Calloway can you tell me about Buddhism I’m just curious
@@4lsteppa647 Pure land buddhism means following the dharma, the law of karma to prevent you from doing negative actions that will cause you to have negative emotions. Practicing pure land buddhism means chanting amitabha buddhas name mindlessly, don't use your brain, be not attached, dont have any negative emotions in your heart except happiness inbrain, never heart. If you do this u will know also you have to concentrate while chanting to prevent negative emotions and thoughts
Shamar Calloway is there such thing as heaven and hell like in the sense of you have to be a Buddhist to go to heaven
Basically with all these contradictions I'm getting the sense that no one knows.
Islam quran knows allah knows follow islam my brother ur life will change
@@s67gelato29 for what? for getting sex slaves and get dunk in heaven? i wonder why would believe such bs. like anyone with brain should have got that it is not the truth we are supposed to seek. pathetic.
@@theosteven3362 lack of knowledge on your part, brother
@@ayzaslifestyle9 then enlighten me my brother. What do those verses actually mean brother? 🙂😌
@@theosteven3362 As for the second part:
When we read the Quran in context, we soon discover that the wine that will be consumed in paradise is not the same type of wine on earth. The Quran says:
There will be circulated among them a cup [of wine] from a flowing spring, White and delicious to the drinkers; No bad effect is there in it, nor from it will they be intoxicated. (Surah 37:45-47)
why cannot we just admit we have no idea
TROLL MMA he has no idea , but our sages do know , Rabbi Yaron Rueven Shiur on Gehinom says truth and brings sources
True but I believe in heaven
Because humans don’t want to live in fear of the unknown. It’s the fate of everyone and nobody wants to suffer or get blinked out of existence.
People had an idea for thousands of years. Then Rome happened.
and the consequences of it?
I can't understand people in the coments saying that it doesn't make sense. This makes perfect sense, it way more oogical and obvious than the Christian perspective.
Please explain to me how this is not a Christian perspective
I love rabbi friedman. He is connected to god. A truly great teacher
I don’t agree with communicating to dead part. Torah says that it shouldn’t be done be cause they know nothing and can’t help you. It’s like idolatry to do that.
Didn't King Saul summon Samuel through a median? Samuel was upset because he was resting.
@@puapucuve6643 God permitted this. wasn't Saul killed the next day for once again disobeying his God? Wasn't this Samuels last prophecy to Saul?
Can you tell me the chapters or versus in torah. About commicating with dead I have experience with possibly speaking with the dead in dreams.
Don’t fear death! Live well and be rewarded!
Thank you Rabbi
Shalom Rabbi you're teachings are so unique you though us where we have been never thought before the World is so proud of you Keep up the good work May Hashem to gloryfy you Shalom.
I like the Jewish perspective on the afterlife
0:25 to 0: 35 In hinduism people cremate the body into ashes so the soul knows that its vessel has been turned into ashes and its time to move on to the next realm...
1:32 In hinduism we perform prayers and food for the soul for 13 days and light oil fire and also add vessel of water for the soul and perform big ceremony on 13th day . Every Year on the death anniversary we have to perform a ritual to satisfy our ancestor who came before us by doing homs and puja and offering food and water.. As per "Garud Puranas " the book of death " a soul comes back on 3rd day after the death of physical body.
Thank you.
I don't hear the Glory being given to God. I hear a human centered excuse to honor the sinful flesh and a desire for the body to continue performing traditions and rituals beyond death. I hear a focus on the rewards of heaven for the human, not a rejoicing in finally being nearer to God.
Beware the leavening of the Pharisees and read your own Bible/Torah and pray for wisdom and understanding of the Holy Spirit to find God's Truth. Be still and listen to God's quiet voice and personal message to do God's will. Don't rely on the corruption of a watered down explanation by a human who you have no way of knowing if their names are written in God's book of life, or if that person is really being used by Satan to decieve you by offering you the forbidden fruit of the "tree of knowledge."
Do you believe heaven and hell?how would you know if you will be in heaven or hell when you die?
Because your soul leaves your body aka your concisousness
Thanks Rabbi,your explanations solves my confused questions.
Thank you, Rabbi Manis for your amazing explanation of the amazing people we are! Now, if my soul will keep encouraging my body to keep moving, we last as a great partnership until we are at least 120 years young! This sounds like I'm talking to myself, just saying.
In islam after death your soul will be in grave with the body until judgment day
God whill recreat every dead body from there grave for judgment day where everybody judged for what they done in life
And then with that other body we go to heaven or hell forever ... Some even go to hell at first then go to heaven for there sin is more then there good deeds ...
Thank you rabbi you have answered another question for that I've asked God for he's giving you the answer to give to me thank you
Near death experience survivors say losing the body is like removing the clothes, and has that little worth to the soul/spirit.
Wow really?!!
this is so interesting to me! as a muslim i always thought our religions shared a very similar understanding of afterlife but im finding out its much more different than i thought. thank you so much!!
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Judaism don’t care much about afterlife, unlike in Christianity and islam. Bible is better but quran and islam is the truth.
Salaam.. In islam there is concept of "BARZAKH".. as soon as you die the barzakh life starts and you are questioned about your religion and deeds.. and then on that basis u have to bear torture(in case of bad deeds) or enjoyment ( in case of good deeds) till the day of resurrection! On that day for bad people there is a very painful place which is full of torture and for good people there is heaven which is full of blessing!! I request all of my brotheŕs and sisters in humanity to please read Holy quran once it may guide you to truth in sha Allah... REGARDS A MUSLIM.. PEACE..😊
Pagan
Excellent! Don’t forget to serve yourself so you have it to give!
the soul has a incredible intellegence it knows what to do !
Great insight as always Rabbi! Thank you.
What about Reincarnation where the soul has had many bodies throughout time?
Why don't we ask so many who already dead and gone for factual information? When we die, how can we care about such a 'profound' question as you are raising here? Worried about going to 'hell'?
How does he know? Pretty interesting for someone who has never been dead.
West Lisbon something called a bible and praying
Jeremiah 33:3
The source is from the Zohar. Do you know what that is?
@@surikatz123 Unlike the Torah, the Zohar can be contradicted.
@@surikatz123 According to the TORAH, every human being is made up of his own unique "Body", "Nefesh-Chayyah" and an "Image of Elohim".
After death, the human "Body" return to the ground, his "Nefesh-Chayyah" continue living thru his "Offsprings" and the "Image of his Elohim" return to its source, יהוה
We do NOT die! Body does. Death is dead. Life lives! Which One are You?!
It's amazing Islam and judiasim has so much in common
What is your source for this, Rav Friedman? That the soul retains an attachment to the body..
The Zohar explains this in Parshas Shelach.
@@surikatz123 Studying the Zohar going against the Torah scripture, because its mainly dealing with, "The secret things".
Deut. 29:28 The secret things belongs to YE-HO-HA" (יהוה) our Elohim; but the things that are revealed belong to us and to our children FOR EVER, that we may do all the words of this law.
The fact that he thinks God is needy of his call or prayer is such an arrogance!!! God is the Master of the universe whom all creatures need, and He needs none of them/us!!!
If you think you don’t need God, think of who makes your heart beat? Who produces oxygen? Who brings water down from the sky? Who causes the seeds to grow from the earth from which we make bread? The list is endless.
The resurrection is what is also spoke of in the new testament. Man's tradition and pagen mythical ideas corrupted ppl to think this eternal heaven hell stuff is in the Bible. It's not even mentioned as an idea. Ppl have just been taught to see it that way. Eternal resurrection is the only thing taught. all (good and evil) will be resurrected together and judged. The evil will have a second death and be no more.
Thank u for an amazing explanation
This illustrates that at the end of the day, no matter how you cut it and what mental gymnastics are employed by the apologists - if you take the belief out of Judaism it doesn't make sense/work. That is true for basically any religion. Today it masquerades as a "logical" interpretation of the world/reality through some very smart people. "Judaism is what you do not what you believe" is a common motto. However one cannot do without believing in god, the Torah, the Talmud - therefore belief is everything in Judaism.
PS - this applies to Christianity and Islam as well.
We do not know. Until someone comes back and tells us then we will find out. Until then it is nothing but a myth
ETERNAL PAIN IN HELL:
And the smoke of their torment will
rise for ever and ever. There will be no rest day or night .....(Revelation 14:11)
Ecclesiastes 9:5
For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
What God said about life after death in Jews books??
IT ALL BELIEF NEVER A FACT- EVERYTHING IN LIFE HAPPENS NOW THAT FACT BECAUSE WE ALL SEE IT. ALSO heaven and hell is a state of mind that also happen in this life because we all see it -
There's certainly a Spiritual Heaven, and Hell
I'm a Christian basically clinged to the old Jewish doctrines (convenanted church of God) basically called apostles Im really impressed with your presentation but I don't have clear channel to the book " creating the life that matters" so please help me ...I'm from Malawi in africa
Rabbi, I will be bored in heaven and come back right away. Why wait for Mesheach? Can I come as a new infant, and maybe in the same family and continue to serve?
Your wish is granted, same family doesnt make much difference because we are not made to remember.
You wanted to redo life again? You’re crazy
I'm here cus I'm curious about life after death
The ruach (breath of life) returns to Yahweh until the resurrection.
Well now I'm confused. I thought Judaism made sense but now you are saying it's not about getting to heaven instead it's all about this earthly life.
jews and muslims are so similar.amazing
There are 84lakh species
1 soul travel through all species according to karma after death
When good karma is done human life is given with brain
Means u are conscious and know what
Is good and bad and can choose good path in order to stop cycle of rebirth and permanently unite with god
Is it possible Rabbi that the soul is the source of our caring so it gives the physical body the ability and longing to be in relationship with others and with G*d? I can conceive of the idea that when enough good has been done an entity new physical world will be created with all souls and Mosiach in physical form. What the rules so to speak will be, the laws and the justice system will be is fascinating to consider. Yes G*d has the power to be a dictator but that is not the relationship he wants with the world because that would still leave him alone. Obedience and compliance is not a full relationship.
if you lose your body in a house fire or dismemberment from explosives in war. Then what happens?
How do you know? Did you ever die? No one knows! How come there are movies, books etc. about Christian's dying, and experiencing heaven? Never see any Jewish people with such a testimony. Hey...no one comes back to complain. Lol.
I wish this is gonna be true cause eternity in torture is something cause me trauma just by thinking of it
Ecclesiastes 9:5
For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
What happens to the souls of evil people?
Your Dajjal is gonna be in for a big surprise once Issa ibn Maryam PBUH arrives
You are not Jewish what makes you think you understand anything about souls or minds and you don't have any how can you understand what is hidden from you,read all the books or listen to any rabbi you will still don't understand and here comes bad thoughts,something is around you always hidden from sight it gives you what you need to understand or not and you without mind or soul it thinks you don't exist
I was so confused what Jews believed in because in Psalm 6 they bring up that no one praises god from Sheol then in Psalm 17 David brings up men who store their treasures in THIS LIFE implying that there is in fact an afterlife where we store our treasures. I suppose they could have just been using very poetic language in Psalm 6 to say "Dead people can't praise" lol
Ecclesiastes 9:5
For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
@@Hananiah70 Great, it seems like they Torah/Bible can't agree lol
@@Acesahn Can you please explain why do you think that?
@@Hananiah70 Heaven is being with god after you die! ...It's also the kingdom here on earth where all the chosen ones will come back to life and inherit. Our treasures are not of this world... but when you die you're just dead. You can't praise or even think from 'sheol'
Holding pattern is an aviation term, are you a pilot, Rabbi?
I'm not Jewish, so i would just like some clarification. What is than the point of praying in Judaism. You say God wants you to. But what do you "get" out of it? From what you said it sounds like life will just go on without any intervention by God even if you need him. I might be all wrong about this. Thank you for your time.
The old testament is the new testament concealed. The new testament is the old testament revealed.
We are sparks placed here for a brief moment to accumulate light and warmth (love)...so that we can become as bright of a star as we can be...shining in heaven (joy, beauty and harmony).
Love (god) knows every star by name.
We accumulate light and warmth (love) by appreciating this paradise planet lifeboat and the miraculous works of fine art called "life" that inhabit it.
If we extinguish our light and warmth (love) with "greed" and it's ignorance (hate)...we become the darkness and emptiness that surrounds the stars.
Both here on this physical plane called earth like it is on the metaphysical plane we call heaven.
Wow that’s great
What happens if the body has been cremated?
What do you think ressurection is the birth of the body again with its spirit.
That’s sounds horrible! The soul is just hanging out in the graveyard for years? How would heaven be s joyous place if it is aware of its loved ones on earth in pain because of our death.
The Bible says: the living know that they shall day but the dead know not anything.
God made the body from the dust of the ground and breathed into it the breath of life and man became a living soul.
A soul is a body from dust plus Gods breath. When you die, you go back into the ground and the breath returns to God. The dead are asleep and no nothing until God returns again raises them to judgment.
Interesting!
So, given that Jews believe in reincarnation, would that imply that one soul has several bodies linked to it, over time?
This is my belief on death issues
Correction: According to the TORAH, every human being is made up of his own unique "Body", "Nefesh-Chayyah" and an "Image of Elohim".
After death, the human "Body" return to the ground, his "Nefesh-Chayyah" continue living thru his "Offsprings" and the "Image of his Elohim" return to its source, יהוה
@1 looper Gen. 1:28 ........ and Elohim said unto them . (male and female) 'Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it.....
Gen. 2:18 And YE-HO-HA" יהוה, Elohim said: 'It is NOT GOOD that the man should be alone; I will make him a help meet for him.'
@1 looper The "Nefesh, נֶפֶשׁ", are the building blocks of all living things, including but not limited to it, DNA, Cells, Genes, etc...
The humans "Nefesh, נֶפֶשׁ" can be, "Sanctify, קְדֹשִׁים" or "Contaminated, תְּשַׁקֵּצוּ", by following, or going against the Torah instructions.
"Biggest miracle in the world." You sure your soul doesn't have an ego, Mr. Freidman?
what about people that have being cremeted whereis there SOUL,????????????
yes, I'm sure he would make up a convoluted explanation regarding the poor jews the were cremated during WWII.... may they rest in peace (whatever that means)...
Don't think I heard anything about hell
hi dear, i am looking for the answer that is there any concepts of punishment in grave in Judaism, i ask a Christian he said there is not logic of punishment in grave but we followers of Muhammad (PBUH) use to believe that there is punishment in grave after death, we have hadith(words of Muhammad) that a jewish lady came to Muhammad and told about the punishment in grave. but i never read anything in Torah, Gospel or in Quran directly about punishment in grave.
That idea is paganism, Islam is pure paganism so I'm not suprised that they believe in punishment in the grave.
Ecclesiastes 9:5
For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
He seems so sure he knows.
Its as he sais ' What they believe' . Thats different to knowing. Just another version of a God. Be good to know, who is rjght. Billions of lost souls in the last couple of thousands of yrs. Help god
We had a other whose son died in traffic accidentsince i met her we knew that she would treat bad someone else son if she had contact with a son women told treated their son bad zfter many long years she came banging on my door,I did not open the door but talked to her behind the door,help me with my granddaughter her mother in law treating her bad,I said that I cannot do nothing ,I said,i" I helped you clean house ,did not need to but to help you I did,you only trusted me at your house,I gave you a present for your daughter and you never invited me or my husband to your daughters wedding feast,always you ask me to help,what do you think,me andmy husband dirt or your charity case,let me tell you,why we put up with your cruel talk and bitterness,because we knew like your husband that a mother does not see herson or daughter die before her ut now enough,no one killed your son,the accident ki.led your son and he wants you to be OK so he be OK zs he lives your son and one day you be with him forever yes and I saw her a out two weeks ago and talked to her abd I never seen such a beautiful face serene woman in all my life,yesterday I turned 70 and I said, is this a good dentist? Yes
If a person is involved in bad doings and cheating to G-d laws without catching in this world , then it’s not against justice ?.
I think afterlife is a mystery.
It’s G-d portfolio and soul would be treated according to their deeds in this world . Justice not in this world but justice in G-d court ?.
Soul is feelings in the body and that feelings would be rewarded and punished after life according to their deeds .
Death is body without feeling and needs.
Ezekiel 18:4
“Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.”
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Maybe the soul does mitzvahs that can be done w/o a body. Heavenly mitzvahs if you will. Why not?
How do we know the Rabbi is telling the truth? So far from my experience people of Semitic descent never say or do anything without personal gain or advantage over others. Interesting ideas otherwise.
How about cremation??
dif any of you guys dont believe in the Torah you should not watch him we the jews believe in our Toraha he is saying what the Toraha says Thank you Rabbie
The Torah based on Knowledge and Trust. The words, Believe and Faith, did not mentioned in the Torah at all.
what if body gets destroyed on atomic level like in a nuclear explosion and get scattered all over the place ... what happens when earth itself gets destroyed in 5 bln years by the growing sun ...
Rabbi said a detached soul cannot put on Tefillin on it's left hand, but strictly speaking it could be the right-hand also depending on the dominant hand
What happens in the case of an ambidextrous body ? Which arm gets the Tefillin???
It is only suggested by the Rabbi to put Tefillin on your left arm if you are right handed and vice versa. After you have put it on once, nobody is supervising you putting on Tefillin next time.
what happens when people die. well nothing happen. if there is a heaven and hell and we know if the torah is right about sin then it quite clear those who have stole cheated and robbed others of their wealth and belongings clearly go to gell as well as making fun of others in public. if god is real then there is no mangod that can challange god that will go to heaven and anyone who has worshipped a mangod will go the same place as those who did not go to heaven because worshipping a man as a god that is not god was the worst sin in the bible. the worst sin was when men made themselves god. if moral intelligence was more than average among all of the people in the world then people would know momentarely who are the sinners.
his idea sounds allot like jehovah witness take on heaven on earth
With all due respect, as I understand from the TORAH all Human beings has, "Body", "Nefesh-Chayyah" and an extra component, called "Elohim".
After death, the "Body" return to the ground, the "Nefesh-Chayyah" continue to live thru the Human siblings and the "Elohim" return to it source, יהוה
The source for the soul hovering over the body is from the Zohar in Parshas Shelach.
@@surikatz123 Unlike the Torah, the Zohar can be contradicted.
@@haimlevy107 I'm not going to contradict Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai. You may be on a higher level than me.
@@surikatz123 Studying the Zohar going against the Torah scripture, because its mainly dealing with, "The secret things".
Deut. 29:28 The secret things belongs to YE-HO-HA" (יהוה) our Elohim; but the things that are revealed belong to us and to our children FOR EVER, that we may do all the words of this law.
Correction: According to the TORAH, every human being is made up of his own unique "Body", "Nefesh-Chayyah" and an "Image of Elohim".
After death, the human "Body" return to the ground, his "Nefesh-Chayyah" continue living thru his "Offsprings" and the "Image of his Elohim" return to its source, יהוה
Well america serves you
They are delusional people on the planet
I don't understand wouldn't we have many body's?
According to the TORAH, every human being is made up of his own unique "Body", "Nefesh-Chayyah" and an "Image of Elohim".
After death, the human "Body" return to the ground, his "Nefesh-Chayyah" continue living thru his "Offsprings" and the "Image of his Elohim" return to its source, יהוה
@@haimlevy107 that is what makes Rabbi Friedmans explanation so confusing. I've never heard anyone explain it like a real body of this life used again the only ppl I've heard speak like that would be Christians
This information is not Biblical
Because You are biblical?
Cause its Torahical
milk and honey..........
Ecc.9:5 dead know nothing n are unconscious
which branch of jews, this rabbi believes this way?
I watched another video where you been explaining life and death but could not leave a comment there so here we are.
I very much like your explaining things but some of them to me its just nonsense as you been explaining when resurrection comes the soul will unite with previous body which sounds really something weird so maybe needs to be counted how many people needs to be resurrected?! 🤔 What I don't like is when religions misinterpret things which clearly have no understanding.
In the book of revelation it mentions that New Jerusalem WILL NOT have previous things like oceans, our sun etc.. All this can only mean that you will not need your nose as there will not be atmosphere or oxygen as the other parts of your body but instead you will be given another white clothes (new body) which clearly be different. Also it says in same book where souls demand revenge from the God and again it mentions the white clothes given to them.
So you will not need to eat what we eat now and we will not breathe same air and we will not create family means no reproduction so why would we need to be resurrected just to be dismembered again from soul?! Doesn't sound in logic?!
I'm not saying I have an answer but I'm sure most religions gets it wrong, well completely WRONG conception
The delusion of eternity eternal souls, along with resurrection because the soul is lonely for the body... It is not possible to be more delusional than Rabbi Friedman. GROG
This man didn’t cite one verse? Lol, genesis 3:22
I noticed that too and you know what with that in mind folks I do say BE CAREFUL what others say. Remember the Bereans in the book of Acts.
Nobody should be praying to a corpse anyways.... we should be praying to God for the salvation of the loved one's soul. This idea that the soul is attached to the body is rediculous. Where is the reference to that in scripture? If we are with God do we really care about the body? Probably not
So, do you mean that being a נפש היה does not include the body?
@@IngmarSweep a body is just the vessel for a soul, once you die, the body decomposes and the soul remains. There is no attachement after death
Waaaaaaah?????
Clement of Alexandria
"God's punishments are saving and disciplinary [in Hades] leading to conversion, and choosing rather the repentance than the death of the sinner, and especially since souls, although darkened by passions, when released from their bodies, are able to perceive more clearly because of their being no longer obstructed by the paltry flesh."
"If in this life there are so many ways for purification and repentance, how much more should there be after death! The purification of souls, when separated from the body, will be easier. We can set no limits to the agency of the Redeemer; to redeem, to rescue, to discipline, is his work, and so will he continue to operate after this life."
Sounds like christian priest and pastor
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What about the non jew?
In the Torah it says G-d doesnt see Jew or Gentile (Gentile being non jew) sooo same thing
Dalton Jones why do you guys say G-d and not God??
@@maxter1334 because it is one of the laws that any name of G-d can't be erased or destroyed and if it is that is blasphemy to G-d. So we just have a fear this message will be destroyed or printed out and erased. It is complicated and confusing but we a serving the one infinite true Holy one.
@@maxter1334 sometimes that's what autocorrect us
@@mrlearningscholar4078 do you mean the infinite source by the one true god?sorry to break it to ya but there's no separation b/w the demiurge and the source all is united in one also we cannot create thought from nothing like imagining a 9d object or a color outside the spectrum but god did he has all control he is the admin of this "game" and even if you merged it all into the one couldn't god just create us again like he did the first time that would make everything meaningless? doesn't it seem counterintuitive to suggest that god created all this just so we could return to the state that was before?