@ColleenTinker I’m listening in 2024, and it’s so relevant for me today, thank you so much for sharing. My family and I left our SDA church in 2022 and officially left the organization this year. Your presentations have been extremely insightful and I can’t thank you enough. I thank God for opening our eyes and we pray that He will continue to do so for other SDA members.
Until you read Hebrews (and let's throw Galatians into the mix as well), I am unwilling to pursue this discussion. Scripture is crystal clear what was wrong with the Mosaic covenant. It is equally clear what law was changed...the Mosaic law depended upon the levitical priesthood, and vice versa. With a new High Priest in the order of Melchizedek, the Mosaic law was no longer valid. The priesthood had changed. The law of Christ is the law of Christians.
Colleen Tinker, that was absolutely magnificent. You hit the nail right on the head. Some 30 yrs ago or so, I showed an Adventist good friend of mine the 2 Corinthians 3: scripture that you taught from and he told me he would study it and get back to me. Well I don't know if he did study it but to this day, he has never gotten back to me on that subject. Very well done sister.
The book of Hebrews is entirely about how Jesus is better: better than the angels, better than the levitical priesthood, better than the sacrifices, better than the old covenant (Heb. 8). Jesus has better promises, and He offers us a better day...TODAY (ch. 3-4). Hebrews does not endorse the "sanctuary service"; rather, it explains how Jesus is better than all the constructs of the law. Heb. 7:12 states, where there is a change of the priesthood, there is a change of the law.
As a questioning Adventist, this was really insightful. The explanations of Adam and Eve being made into rest and Colleen's explanation of Israelites keeping the Sabbath pre-10-commandments are both more beautiful than the literal Adventist explanations. Thanks Colleen!
Rightly dividing the word! Seeing what was said to the Jews and what was said to the Gentiles will open your eyes and there will be clarity to the word of GOD!👏👍😊
Hebrews explains it clearly. Hebrews 8:7 and onward begins thus: "For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion sought for a second. For finding fault with them, He says…" The book of Hebrews goes step-by-step through the flaws in the Mosaic covenant and ends showing how Jesus is better, and God gave a new covenant. Check out Heb. 7:12: where there's a change of the priesthood, there must be a change of the law.
I pray for the SDA to come into the True Knowledge of The Sabbath IN Christ! My wife left the SDA 10 years ago and I left the LDS(Mormon) a few years earlier. These 'Religions" put so much bondage on their members. I pray that they will be set FREE INDEED John8;32,36 John14:6
😂🤣what? So now she stopped honoring the seventh day sabbath so she can do what? Start observing the first day of the week aka sunday which originated from the sun god and sun worship? What the! Smh! That's backwards!
@@toddnotnilc1829 What do you know that wasn’t processed thru the EGW filter? After almost 2,000 yrs, a brain-damaged, barely literate, histrionic 14:26 , narcissist, plagiaristic, hypocrite is finally be recognized as she was, and the impact is being discussed. You worship a day on the calendar. Without the Sabbath obsession and the anti-Catholic diatribes, SDAs would have nothing to discuss. I Corinthians 13.
So now you folloe tge papacy of sunday worship? Constantine changed Gods holy times & lae, that is litterally the Sabbath. :). Atleast you kept your faith, Let God reveal the truth.
I ve been an SDA for 25 years. Changed recently my opinions on sabath, food, investigativ jujement and escatology. Im mostly a preterist now. God bless you.
The old covenant is the Mosaic covenant. The book of Hebrews is explicit in showing how Jesus is better than all the features of the old covenant, and chapters 7 through 10 are detailed in explaining why the old covenant was flawed and why God gave a new covenant and foretold it in Jeremiah and Ezekiel.
Colleen Tinker, thanx Mrs. Tinker (assuming that is your married name), may I throw in my bit to shed more light on this 'covenant' thing. John 1:17 'For the LAW was given through MOSES, GRACE and TRUTH was given JESUS CHRIST. Then go to Titus 2:11
Colleen Tinker I know it was a long time ago but I must say you are doing a great job. You, Dale and co have helped me (an ex SDA) immensely. With Romans 3:31, what’s your interpretation? Many versions use different words. I like the NIRV. SDA’s love this verse in Romans but it stands alone as something to “uphold” the law. I would love to hear your rationale. This isn’t a trick questions, it’s genuine from someone now who is challenging current SDA’s. Thank you 😊
@@pipsantos6278God made a Holy Covenant to Unholy People, for it to serve as a testimony that #Self_righteousness is just an illusion, and for it to serve as a shield and a guide of the better to come: Jesus Christ our righteousness, in him the law (the letter) is fulfilled so we can be under the new law of the Spirit, which is now written on our hearts.
I have left a media ministry that have some churches where the members believe in egw books. They don’t reveal the root of their doctrins and they mainly spread sabbath day is the God’s seal and people cannot sure that the life from God is eternal they insist that we can get life from God but we would lose it if we don’t follow “the light” that from egw. Egw mentioned her writing as a small light for guiding to the big light, pretty sounds humble, but being based on her doctrin, the bible readers gets to totally different results- no assurance of life, no perfect save from Jesus..etc Those can be together the teaching of bible. So I left that church, now I set free from sin and keeping the law people insist. I left there not to eat meat, stop eating meat is not that difficult. It was torturing me that seeing people keep their eternal life and build up their knowledge of books of egw and interpret the Bible by that and that was not God’s intention. There’ s no fruit of spirit so people there are struggling make the fruits by making effort..
Hebrew 8:7-8 is talking about finding faults with the people but not the covenant and the new covenant is the same covenant but place it in their heart. As Jesus said in Matthew 5:27-28 You have heard that it was said to those of old,‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. Meaning the new covenant is not to sin and take goat or ram to the priest and pardon is received. No. Our heart will forbits us to refrain from sin, not even contemplating on it. The Ten commandments is the only handwriting work in the entire Bible that God Himself Wrote and its stands as a guide to humanity to all eternity. Or would they be à time that we will worship other gods and prostrate before them? Or take the Lord's name in vain? Or worship someone else other then the creator? Or do not honour our parents,? Or Do murder? Or commit adultery? Or do steal? Or bear false witness against your neighbour? Or covet anything of your neighbours? If all these are still biding, where is the new covenant? The problem is about us and not God's. Thanks
People have different opinions on a lot of things. What Christ followers do agree on are the ESSENTIALS, Christ's deity, His Finished work on the cross, the depravity of man and need for a savior, and that GRACE is what saves us
Being saved by doing works of the law isn't a different opinion, it's a different gospel, and being saved by keeping the old covenant law is at the heart of Ellen G White's teachings.
""Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law." - Romans 3:31 Why would Paul tell us to establish the law, which includes (re)establishing Sabbath keeping, if it is no longer in effect?
It's been 6 years since your comments I'm not sure you'll see this, but by Paul saying we establish the law..... He's saying it is not okay to go out and kill or commit adultery Etc ... he is upholding the moral standing of the law! The law is not erased in the moral sense. But if you have Christ in your heart you're not going to break those laws anyhow, are you?
The law he talking about is not the Mosaic law we are to uphold but rather the law of Christ. Jesus made the law Moses obsolete because we don't offer burnt offering of animals to atone for sins.
We establish it (fulfill it) by living in the spirit... the new covenant. The law isnt fulfilled by works or keeping the sabbath (which no one does perfectly and we failed at it) For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: "Love your neighbor as yourself." Galatians 5:14 13For you, brothers, were called to freedom; but do not use your freedom as an opportunity for the flesh. Rather, serve one another in love. 14The entire Law is fulfilled in a single decree: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” 15But if you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out, or you will be consumed by each other.…
“Got instituted”???? Do you realize what audience you have wandered into??? FORMER SDAs…. We have been released from the twisted biased views of EGW. Blessed Be.
I was not a Seventh Day Adventist, but I have been trying to keep the Sabbath and the law really by my own works sense 1983. Colleen Tinker that study has convinced me that you are spot on!!! I have a wonderfully good feeling about this. This really is freedom. I get it!!! The law really is written on my heart. This is not the first time that I have questioned or studied this. I am not agreeing with you on this at the drop of a hat. This is the icing on the cake!!!
Amen the only time you can be allowed or ready to see God in person is when you are liberated from anything and everything , above all that is earthly human and physical. Love is the greatest attribute of God, penultimately expressed in the creation of the first humans then after the fall of the children of Abraham God came himself in the form of Yeshua. It gets even better. His spirit of truth, discernment, love, peace and character is now with us. All humans can access it if they will. Rise up now, know God as he truly is, love him respect him out of your conscience and will of choice.. because He is a person who we all can relate to, we can call Father. Amen
"But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does." - James 1:25 Why would James tell us to continue in the law after Christ had already risen if it's no longer in effect? This would include the Sabbath day also.
This was a really good presentation! I would pray that all of my SDA friends would watch this and come to the realization that in Christ, you keep the Sabbath rest!
Now we can keep the Sabbath rest every moment of every day, by faith, by not working, but letting God work through us by the inspiration of His Holy Spirit. The physical sabbath was only a shadow of this. You can rest while you work, because God works through you. See Hebrews 4. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath CEASED FROM HIS OWN WORKS, as God did from his. There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief. Let go and let God and rest in the Lord. "But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God." John 3:21. " How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?" Hebrews 9:14. Let God work while you rest in Him.
Thankyou so much l have been going to some evangelist meetings that are SDA and was almost persuaded. You have put me back on solid ground God bless you richly my sister.
Hi, Im not sure what entity that fuel this site, but they decive aswell. I would say SDA is the truth seeker of all the denominations. They atleast study the Bible and it's prohecy. who does that? who have the gift of propecy? Jesus promised yhis to the remnant who keeps Gods commandments in for exampel Revelation 12:14. I guess there are bad people/churches everywhere, but try another SDA church and let The Holy Spirit lead you the way that Jesus thought.
Rome had calendars with eight days, eleven days, and so forth. There have been many variations. Where is there a text that says we will be in heaven for 1000 years? Rev. 21 and 22 say that there is no sun or moon in the new Jerusalem...no passing days. The 1000 years in heaven idea is only in EGW. Rev. 20 describes 1000 years on earth, with Christ ruling over the nations. The Bible doesn't say we'll be in heaven for 1000 years.
Thank you for this most informative lecture. I am pleased to see that your conclusions closely match the onclusion that I reached after looking into this matter over many, (30+) years. There is an obscure passage in Nehemiah, 9:13 & 14 which demolishes the sdas' claim that the sabbath was kept from creation! Nehemiah plainly states that the sabbath was made known to Israel at Sinai! This, of course fits nicely with the many passages that state that the sabbath was the sign of the Mosaic covenant, also made at Sinai and as you so well explained, is no longer in effect. I look forward to listening to your other lectures on UA-cam. Thank you again.
That is not what the scripture says, it says in Genesis about the seventh day rest when created etc. Ofcourse that Eve & Adam and the other that stayed faithfull kept the sabbath. It is eternal, and it is in the ten commandments. It is litterally the inly sentences that God himself wrote with is own fingers... Not worth keeping? It will be a major thing in the end time, for the propechy says that, revelation 14:12
The words of the creation account are the words God gave us. We have to see the "evening and morning" distinction as different on the seventh day than during the six of creation. (The seventh day, by the way, was not a day of creation. Creation was six days.) God created nothing on the 7th day; He ceased. He did not resume His work of creation. His "ceasing" did not end, and it was not a single day.
I think we get that he said remember to a certain day holy, we can't really compare it to saying remember to take your coat if you go outside. If it is it cold out there. It is a different situation. The sabbath was to the lord in the old covenant. In the new covenant the sabbath rest is for us to rest in him. He said so.❤
People leave Adventism because we try to follow the example of Christ. But people don't want to die to sin or anything else that pleases the carnal heart. For example, most women want to wear jewelry and because we don't wear jewelry as adventists, they rather look for some other place. That's just one example
As if not wearing jewelry saves you. Your righteousness is but filthy rags. There's absolutely nothing you can do to save yourself. Nothing. The arrogance to think women leave the church just to wear earrings. If you believe so strongly in adventism you should be praying for them and not assume they left to sin. Aren't Adventists doing all sorts of wrong doing even within the church?
The OLD COVENANT is man's shaky promises to God... which ALL eventually fail--"all that you have said WE will do, Lord" as we're making our golden calf... The NEW COVENANT is GOD'S one-way promise to man... "I will write my law upon your heart."
Some of the content here is not scripturally supported but imposed assumptions. When the word says specifically to do something how can we assume around it? How can we just assume it’s been done away with when it doesn’t specifically say forget the Sabbath you don’t got to keep it anymore there’s no scripture like that.
Colleen Tinker Genesis 4, Cain killing Abel was sin. God specifically told Cain his murderous thoughts were sin and it would control him. Joseph sleeping with Potiphar's wife would be a sin against God (Adultery), which Joseph refused to do. These are samples of parts of the Decalogue which are before the period Paul refers to in Galatians. And the interesting thing is that Paul says the law he is talking about was added because of transgression. What was being transgressed?
Elebert Vundhla Right and wrong are not determined by the law. Morality-right and wrong-are attributes of God Himself. God didn't need the law to know right from wrong, but humans who are spiritually dead lost the ability to know right from wrong. Romans 1 through 3 describes the condition of sinful humanity. Ephesians 2:1-3 further explains that we are born dead in sin and subject to Satan. We are simply not born with a "spark" of light or goodness in us. Our spirits are dead because of Adam and Eve's sin in the garden. According to Romans 5 and 1 Corinthians 15, every human ever born (with the exception of the Lord Jesus) was born spiritually dead and subject to satan. God gave Israel the law in order to point out to them what they were already doing that was sinful. The point of the law (read Romans 1 through 8 carefully, and Galatians) was to point out sin...not only to point it out, but to INCREASE sin. The law was not given to help men become good. It was given to clearly show that all humanity is under a curse. Natural man cannot please God, obey God, honor God, or even seek God (Rom. 3:9-16). We are born DEAD, without the life of God in us, citizens of the domain of darkness (Col. 1:13). The law was given to define sin to a people who had lost sight of the nature of their sins. It was given to make people aware that they were helpless and cursed, and it spelled out the fact that death was the consequence of their sin. Jesus came and fulfilled that law. He lived a sinless life...not because He prayed hard and managed to overcome sin, as EGW says, but because He was conceived SINLESS...alive with the life of God from the moment of conception. He was the only human who did not have to be born again, to be made spiritually alive. He WAS sinless not because He didn't sin. He didn't sin because He was sinless. He not only lived without sin, but He fulfilled the curse of the law. He took the death the Law explained was the natural consequence for every single human ever born...except for Jesus. Because He was a man, He could die the human death that human sin required. Because He was God, He could bear the infinite sins of the human race....He didn't just die as one Man for another. He was able, because He was God, to bear the sin for the entire human race. The transgression which the law was added to expose was the natural sinfulness of every man. Unless one understands that man is literally (not just figuratively) spiritually dead from the moment of conception (by Nature children of wrath), they are born into intractable sin. This sinfulness was what the law was given to reveal. As David said, "Against Thee only have I sinned." Mankind does not sin against the law. Mankind sins against God. The law merely identifies the sin that every human does, and it defines the curse of death which is the God-appointed consequence of sin. Read Romans 3 and the short book of Galatians. :)
Colleen Tinker Romans 7 says otherwise.And Romans 8 explains why we are not subject to God's law. Romans 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God. 5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death. 6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter. 7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. 8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead. 9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died. 10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death. Verse 10 says the commandment was ordained to life. But when it is broken it brings death. Jesus was asked once what one should do to inherit eternal life and his answer bordered around the fact that we ought to keep the commandments. Now if the purpose of the commandments is line with what you say, Jesus was out of line to give that response. But we both know Jesus was right
***** Read all the texts that talk about Jesus' human nature. In actual fact the very idea that he could die means that his nature was one that was subject to death. Paul in Romans 8 elaborates it this way: Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: So your rhetoric about Jesus being sinless because that is how he was born is ridiculous. More ridiculous would be Jesus statement if what you said was true "Övercome as I have overcome..." . The emphasis on scripture is not the law but obedience. When Adam sinned he had no inherent sin, he was made perfect. So much so, that even Lucifer himself was declared perfect at creation. Your rhetoric just shows how much you know of the whole plan of redemption. He was tempted on all points as we are and yet without sin, is different from the points you bring up.
***** Upon review of your statement. You are right and I am sorry for that. I guess my response was to the italicized part and you did not clearly state it was referencing what some-one else said.
It's not a stretch if you look at the terms of the covenants. Sabbath was the sign of the Mosaic covenant (Ex. 31:13-18). Jesus changed the Passover meal into the Lord's Supper, fulfilling its symbols by introducing His own broken body and spilled blood. The bread and wine of Passover became the new covenant in His blood and body. Circumcision of the heart replaced circumcision; the Lord' Supper became the new "remember". Jesus fulfilled the shadows of the law (Col. 2:16-17).
The Sabbath was first implemented in the garden and will be held in heaven. It’s kinda everlasting now 🙄. I learned that by reading the Bible without any Adventist study guides. I can understand your thoughts or conflicted feelings on EW, but there is a lot your looking past with Bible truths and willing to throw out the window Mrs. Tinker. I don’t mean that as an insult. Paul encourages us to keep the law.. no law equals no sin and no need of Jesus and therefore everything goes and everyone goes.. to heaven? Which laws should we keep and which should we disavow?
@@jorgehidalgo676 I love the whole law, including seventh day sabbath :) not by my own works, but by the holy spirit who guides me on the narrow oath that is way of Jesus. Jesus kept the Sabbath even in his death, woke up after Sabbath etc. Reveleation 14:12 tells the remnant in the endtimes.
It's pretty simple Colleen. Hebrews 4 in no way suggests that our rest in Christ somehow "eclipses" or "erases" the actual physical keeping of the Sabbath. Rather, Paul is revealing how the literal Seventh-Day Sabbath rest (sabbatismos), symbolizes and celebrates our spiritual rest in Christ Jesus. This is the "katapausis" rest. Paul uses a similar argument in Romans 6, where Baptism is a symbol of our death, burial, and resurrection in Christ Jesus. But the spiritual never eclipses the literal
If a man is fully convinced in his own mind that he’s examined every facet of evidence and taken on a bit of toil to study the word, then after seeking with all their hearts still conclude to one specific answer that goes contrary to other brethren or common so called knowledge, I think they would be justified by God. Even if they were in error?
They had to keep Sabbath if they were lodging in a Jewish home. If they permanently lived in a Jewish home, they had to be circumcised (Gen. 17:12-13). Uncircumcised gentiles passing through had to observe Jewish law while in Jewish homes; they were not subject to the law once they left. The law was not theirs (Romans 2).
On Galatians chapter 3, the best way was to start with verse number 15 than just coming to start with verse number 17. I think in this way we are not doing justice to the scriptures. Matters of the scriptures, a context must always be considered.
You have to keep reading the whole chapter..Not just a text or two..Because as you said you will lose the context..Read the whole thing and look closely at 23-24-25 We were under a guardian..(the law) (some translations say tutor), But we are not under that guardian any more.. The law ended when Faith came to be.. 15Brothers, let me put this in human terms. Even a human covenant, once it is ratified, cannot be canceled or amended. 16The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. The Scripture does not say, “and to seeds,” meaning many, but “and to your seed,”h meaning One, who is Christ. 17What I mean is this: The law that came 430 years later does not revoke the covenant previously established by God, so as to nullify the promise. 18For if the inheritance depends on the law, then it no longer depends on a promise; but God freely granted it to Abraham through a promise. 19Why then was the law given? It was added because of transgressions, until the arrival of the seed to whom the promise referred. It was administered through angels by a mediator. 20A mediator is unnecessary, however, for only one party; but God is one. 21Is the law, then, opposed to the promises of God? Certainly not! For if a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would certainly have come from the law. 22But the Scripture pronounces all things confined by sin, so that by faith in Jesus Christ the promise might be given to those who believe. 23Before this faith came, we were held in custody under the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. 24So the law became our guardian to lead us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25Now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian.
Jesus is Almighty God. He could not fail. We know He broke the Sabbath because Scripture said He did (John 5:18). But according to the law, His Sabbath-breaking was not sin because He was fulfilling Sabbath. He was demonstrating that He, the reality of the Sabbath shadow, was here (see Col 2:16-17). He also broke the laws of not touching lepers or dead people without ritual cleansing. He touched them and gave life. He broke and fulfilled the ritual laws foreshadowing Him. They pointed to Him.
Adventists insist that "law" equals "decalogue" wherever the terms law, commandments, or statues are used in Scripture. This assumption is false. In Scripture, "Law", "Statutes", and "Commandments" refer to the entire word/counsel of God, not just to the Decalogue. Exodus 35:28 specifically identifies the Ten Commandments as the "words of the covenant" that God made with Israel on Mt Sinai. They are not "the law" generally referred to in Scripture. That "law" is God's entire word.
EG WHITE did not understand Sola Scriptura. Question: "What is sola scriptura?" Answer: The phrase sola scriptura is from the Latin: sola having the idea of “alone,” “ground,” “base,” and the word scriptura meaning “writings”-referring to the Scriptures. Sola scriptura means that Scripture alone is authoritative for the faith and practice of the Christian. The Bible is complete, authoritative, and true. “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness” (2 Timothy 3:16). 66 books in the bible and she could not understand Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath and we r free to pick any day.
Didn't you know that they have the moon cycles on the calendar? My mother used go them when one of sisters would have a baby. She said that when the moon would full that my sister would go into labor.
Dear. There is not perfect religious teaching. SDA have points and if you can’t agree and see everything wrong then you are wrong. Everyone is choose because of Gods mercy. Including imperfect SDA. And your imperfect religion too.
By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise: Hebrews 11:8-9
God bless you, Colleen Tinker. And Gos bless this channel. Thank you for this ministry. To both preaching the true Gospel while also exposing Satan’s lies and the lies of them who’s been decieved by him. The Holy Spirit lives in and works through you 🙏❤️
2:32 But that was even more rude to think that Jesus Christ was rude. You've forgotten that he's the creator of everything and has the power and the right to say anything to his creations. The bible says, in Isaiah 45/8 “Woe to him who strives with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth! Shall the clay say to him who forms it, ‘What are you making?’ Or shall your handiwork say, ‘He has no hands’?
What about the covenant that God made with Adam and Eve before they ate the fruit? Is that not the same scenario as he gave the Israelites at Mt. Sinai? If you obey me you will live, but if you disobey me and eat of the forbidden fruit you will die. Are you saying it was also impossible for them to keep this conditional covenant?
NellieJoy Roberts Sorry--it was Joshua 24. Here's what it says: "Joshua said to all the people, 'Thus says the LORD, the God of Israel, "From ancient times your fathers lived beyond the River, namely, Terah, the father of Abraham and the father of Nahor, and they served other gods. Then I took your father Abraham from beyond the River, and led him through all the land of Canaan, and multiplied his descendants and gave him Isaac"'" (Josh. 24:2-3). Abraham and his father and his brother Nahor worshiped other gods. Abraham was called out of paganism, moon worship, actually-that was the prevailing religion in Mesopotamia at that time. God called him not because he was righteous but because He chose Him for His own purposes. He is the One who made Abraham the "father of the faithful" and caused his heart to believe.
And at precisely the 17:00 mark of the video Colleen meant to say Deuteronomy 5 where she accidentally said Genesis 5......but I knew that she meant Deuteronomy 5. By the way Colleen....you gave a wonderful informative and very heartfelt talk on the Sabbath!!! A video that makes it so clear what we need to be doing in this day and age. I'll be sure to check out more of your presentations....thanks!!!
I was told years ago when Women start standing up and preach in church all will change,their way, Men will follow. Just as Eve did. Soon after SDA will change, it is now...oh dear...as it was in the beginning it will be in the end.....
Lol dude really? SDA was formed by a woman who admittedly didn’t understand the Bible unless she was actively having a vision. She was even known to make dress code rules for the ladies in church and later quietly stopped following them herself. Read Galatians 1:8.
I love when you said that communion is a new remember for us. Can see you have done lots of study on this subject and look pretty exited about what you found. 👏🏻
That's too much relative. A Christian can abandoned Christianity and embrace Islam and vice-versa. It's all about experience and reason . I was a non-SDA and I was SDA for 8 years and I clear see how wrong it is now. It's about being honest and in being well with your conscience.
Pip Santos there are many that have religion and do not have a relationship with Jesus Christ. Thus, without the Holy Spirit many will see through the veil instead of clearly with eyes and ears honed to Jesus as Lord and Savior. It has been a year, so I am hopeful you have been brought to truth. Read 2 Corinthians ch 3 and 4.
Jesus fulfilled the Law by keeping it for us that cannot. He saves us by paying for us all and we love and are grateful to Him for giving us this rest in Him. We go to church on the Sabbath to celebrate the rest He gave us by fulfilling all the Laws of God.
IN THE BEGINNING, GOD CREATED MAN TO FREELY & WILLINGLY CHOOSE TO LOVE & OBEY HIM AS HIS GRATEFUL, THANKFUL CHILDREN. He really preferred the whole thing by grace & faith to begin with & there were very few rules, very few laws, everything was to be done voluntarily out of love.--That was His original plan. BUT AS MAN BECAME MORE & MORE DISOBEDIENT & WICKED, God had to give him more & more laws & rules & regulations. These laws were not made for the righteous, because the righteous doesn't harm or do wrong to his neighbour, the righteous one loves. But they were made for the wrong-doers, the evil people, the wicked. THE LAWS WERE GIVEN FOR THE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT HAVE LOVE, who do evil, unloving, harmful things. The Bible says that "the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless & disobedient, for the ungodly & for sinners, for unholy & profane, for murderers of fathers & murderers of mothers, for manslayers." (1Tim.1:9)
@Myhopeisinhim If the bible is truly God's word, and it is inerrant, then why do you Christians have such a tough time agreeing with each other? Why are there so many different denominations within Christianity, each with a DIFFERENT beliefs, although they all follow the same bible? I know I have asked you this question before....But I just don't get it!
People will do great study to contort scripture, take things way out context, use ad hom attacks on others, because they know full well the Sabbath is in effect, and I truly believe they simply don't have the faith or the courage to stand up for Christ and his seal of Creation if it means ostracizing yourself from your friends and family.
John 7:22-23 But you work on the Sabbath, too, when you obey Moses' law of circumcision. (Actually, this tradition of circumcision began with the patriarchs, long before the law of Moses.) "If a man receives circumcision on the Sabbath so that the Law of Moses will not be broken, are you angry with Me because I made an entire man well on the Sabbath?
What type of work Jesus performed on the Sabbath?...did Jesus mowed his lawn on the Sabbath or did his washing on the Sabbath? Or did he healed people on the Sabbath?...
There is only one Sabbath Day, and the 4th commandment outlines exactly which day that is, however, salvation is thru Christ alone...period. Keeping commandments will not earn salvation. But why, in any case, are men so determined in their rebellion against what God so clearly established in order to exalt another day of their own making? All the verbiage trying to defend Sunday observance is little more than an act of defiance and self exaltation, and we know where all that first started. It came straight from Hell, and Hell's legions are it's chief defenders, whether born of men, or the Fallen of God's first creations. I would ask why so many are determined to follow any man made day of worship instead of the one God so clearly outlined and defined as the one He made and sanctified for the good of man?
Thanks for the great work you are doing, but on the issue of Abram worshipping pagan gods i beg to differ, where did you get that. I agree with you that he's not chosen because he's righteous, but that he's serving other gods i beg to be shown where you got it from.
Joshua 24:2, 3: "Joshua said to all the people, "Thus says the LORD, the God of Israel, 'From ancient times your fathers lived beyond the River, [namely,] Terah, the father of Abraham and the father of Nahor, and they served other gods. 'Then I took your father Abraham from beyond the River, and led him through all the land of Canaan, and multiplied his descendants and gave him Isaac." (Jos 24:2-3 NASB95) Abraham's family all worshiped other gods. God called Abram and revealed Himself to him. Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him for righteousness (Gen. 15:6).
Joshua 24:2 And Joshua said to all the people, “Thus says the Lord God of Israel: ‘Your fathers, including Terah, the father of Abraham and the father of Nahor, dwelt on the other side of the River in old times; and they served other gods.
So if the ten commandments is itself, the old covenant, and not the promise to keep it under our own power, to what law was Dan 7:25 referring, where times and laws would be changed by the man of sin? And who was or could be the man of sin? In a video by Mark Woodman, the papacy lined up with 21 points from the Bible describing the man of sin. Could anyone other than the papacy be the Antichrist and fulfill all 21 points? If not, I seriously, would not worship on Sunday, if the U.S. passes such a law. It looks like Europe will legislate that all business be closed on Sunday and our President and many legislators who consider the pope to be the moral leader of our country, will also pass this first stage of the Sunday law. Will you obey, if mandatory Sunday worship actually becomes law?
This is a deeply disturbing statement. He cannot break the Sabbath and not sin at the same time, we're told outright 'Sin is transgression of the Law.' He broke the Sabbath according to man's flawed view of the Sabbath, which has no weight. They had taken it to extreme ends with man made regulations But Bekinkosi is right, by your interpretation Christ is a sinner if you're going to claim he broke the Sabbath. I hope you will prayerfully reconsider your position on this.
"From one Sabbath (body rest) to another", Jesus is the new rest (soul rest). From Moses (Sabbath) to another (Jesus)......no man will be justified by the works of The Old Law
John 7:17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine Adam and Eve's eyes were not opened and had NO Knowledge of EVIL whatsoever. They were immortal and sinless the only law/rule they were able to transgress was the ONLY the ONE that was given to them. Thou shalt not eat of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.
A lot of words injected into explaining the context. True mixed with error. Also why is it the Adventists fault you didn't understand Hebrews/Romans? You need to test everything yourself. Sounds like you follow teachers and make an opinion around that.
Is this more about being an Adventist or is this about Sabbath keeping. Because Sabbath keeping or being a Sabbath keeper is very biblical. But it would seem to me right off the bat that she has complaints about Adventist because that is all that she talks about in the beginning
so is saturday a pagan name all the days of the week are and the months of year. if we keep the saturday sabbath we are under the old jewish laws. jesus took the sabbath on himself. he is lord of the sabbath. read about this in your bible. he called the Pharisees hypocrites. they led out the donkey from the stall. or collected the sheep from the mire. you adventists are wrong.
Seriously Dr.! This teaching by C.Tinkler is full of scripture for sufficient correcting the inadequate bible knowledge that comes with SDAism. (that comes from EGW's inadequate understanding of God & His word)
If the 4th commandment is done away with, then presumably the other 9 is also abolished. We can have other god's above God, we can murder, commit adultery, and steal! I've never throughout history, seen anyone argue against those. We all want to give God what we want, just like Cain, we see the outcome of that.
Scripture to prove the Ten C's predated Moses? Galatians 3:16-17 identifies the Decalogue's beginning and ending. The primordial world did not need the decalogue in order to be guilty of sin. Romans 5:12-14 states that sin was in the world before the law, but sin is not imputed when there is no law. Nevertheless, death (the wages of sin) reigned from Adam until Moses.
I'm glad she in more about what the sabbath is than what it is than what it is not. I didn't understand it either. Jesus gives us rest from sin. We live by faith. Jesus made the old covenant obsolete. The old covenant was heaven and earth that passed , because it was fulfilled. The way they stated in Matthew 5, till heaven and earth pass, not jot or tittle will pass from till all is fulfilled. Which means heaven and earth cannot pass until all the scripture of him is fulfilled. It was. 😊
Amazing Facts founder Joe Crews was the first person I heard who stated that Colossians 2:16 doesn’t mean what we believe it means. It clearly says the Sabbath is no longer necessary for Christians to keep. Amazing Facts needs to be renamed Amazing Fables.
Colleen may have another avenue for Sunday keepers. I different spin... the problem is it has to many holes it in. I want to cover later in a new Utube. The devil does not give up. His time is short.
This comment will probably go unseen since it's been 10 years since this video was posted, but what a fantastic message! I currently observe the sabbath, holy days, and dietary laws, but recently have been feeling my position(s) on them are in serious jeopardy. This message helped move me closer to that belief. Is there any way to get a copy of the notes that were mentioned during this message? I'm on a quest for truth (see my UA-cam handle name) and am willing to follow the truth wherever it leads, regardless of how it impacts my life.
@aletheiaquest, thank you for posting. We have a wealth of helpful material available for you. Please email me at proclamation@gmail.com, and I will respond and get some resources into your hands. You are not alone, and the real gospel of the new covenant in Jesus' blood is so much more amazing than we knew!
Watching in 2024. Thank you sister for an excellent teaching video! Hallelu Yah!
@ColleenTinker I’m listening in 2024, and it’s so relevant for me today, thank you so much for sharing. My family and I left our SDA church in 2022 and officially left the organization this year. Your presentations have been extremely insightful and I can’t thank you enough. I thank God for opening our eyes and we pray that He will continue to do so for other SDA members.
Until you read Hebrews (and let's throw Galatians into the mix as well), I am unwilling to pursue this discussion. Scripture is crystal clear what was wrong with the Mosaic covenant. It is equally clear what law was changed...the Mosaic law depended upon the levitical priesthood, and vice versa. With a new High Priest in the order of Melchizedek, the Mosaic law was no longer valid. The priesthood had changed. The law of Christ is the law of Christians.
Amen amen glory to King Yeshua
Colleen Tinker, that was absolutely magnificent. You hit the nail right on the head. Some 30 yrs ago or so, I showed an Adventist good friend of mine the 2 Corinthians 3: scripture that you taught from and he told me he would study it and get back to me. Well I don't know if he did study it but to this day, he has never gotten back to me on that subject.
Very well done sister.
The book of Hebrews is entirely about how Jesus is better: better than the angels, better than the levitical priesthood, better than the sacrifices, better than the old covenant (Heb. 8). Jesus has better promises, and He offers us a better day...TODAY (ch. 3-4). Hebrews does not endorse the "sanctuary service"; rather, it explains how Jesus is better than all the constructs of the law. Heb. 7:12 states, where there is a change of the priesthood, there is a change of the law.
As a questioning Adventist, this was really insightful. The explanations of Adam and Eve being made into rest and Colleen's explanation of Israelites keeping the Sabbath pre-10-commandments are both more beautiful than the literal Adventist explanations. Thanks Colleen!
A beautiful presentation. Thankyou very much Colleen.
Rightly dividing the word! Seeing what was said to the Jews and what was said to the Gentiles will open your eyes and there will be clarity to the word of GOD!👏👍😊
Hebrews explains it clearly. Hebrews 8:7 and onward begins thus: "For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion sought for a second. For finding fault with them, He says…" The book of Hebrews goes step-by-step through the flaws in the Mosaic covenant and ends showing how Jesus is better, and God gave a new covenant. Check out Heb. 7:12: where there's a change of the priesthood, there must be a change of the law.
Thank you for this Colleen. I wish so badly I could talk with you someday. I have so many questions for you.
I pray for the SDA to come into the True Knowledge of The Sabbath IN Christ!
My wife left the SDA 10 years ago and I left the LDS(Mormon) a few years earlier.
These 'Religions" put so much bondage on their members.
I pray that they will be set FREE INDEED John8;32,36 John14:6
😂🤣what? So now she stopped honoring the seventh day sabbath so she can do what? Start observing the first day of the week aka sunday which originated from the sun god and sun worship? What the! Smh! That's backwards!
@@toddnotnilc1829 What do you know that wasn’t processed thru the EGW filter? After almost 2,000 yrs, a brain-damaged, barely literate, histrionic 14:26 , narcissist, plagiaristic, hypocrite is finally be recognized as she was, and the impact is being discussed.
You worship a day on the calendar.
Without the Sabbath obsession and the anti-Catholic diatribes,
SDAs would have nothing to discuss.
I Corinthians 13.
So now you folloe tge papacy of sunday worship? Constantine changed Gods holy times & lae, that is litterally the Sabbath. :). Atleast you kept your faith, Let God reveal the truth.
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I ve been an SDA for 25 years. Changed recently my opinions on sabath, food, investigativ jujement and escatology. Im mostly a preterist now. God bless you.
God bless you
The old covenant is the Mosaic covenant. The book of Hebrews is explicit in showing how Jesus is better than all the features of the old covenant, and chapters 7 through 10 are detailed in explaining why the old covenant was flawed and why God gave a new covenant and foretold it in Jeremiah and Ezekiel.
Colleen Tinker ok. So let's lay it out clearly. The old covenant is faulty. Right. So god made a faulty covenant?
Colleen Tinker, thanx Mrs. Tinker (assuming that is your married name), may I throw in my bit to shed more light on this 'covenant' thing. John 1:17 'For the LAW was given through MOSES, GRACE and TRUTH was given JESUS CHRIST. Then go to Titus 2:11
Colleen Tinker I know it was a long time ago but I must say you are doing a great job. You, Dale and co have helped me (an ex SDA) immensely.
With Romans 3:31, what’s your interpretation? Many versions use different words. I like the NIRV. SDA’s love this verse in Romans but it stands alone as something to “uphold” the law. I would love to hear your rationale. This isn’t a trick questions, it’s genuine from someone now who is challenging current SDA’s. Thank you 😊
You don't understand the difference between God's law and Moses law...
@@pipsantos6278God made a Holy Covenant to Unholy People, for it to serve as a testimony that #Self_righteousness is just an illusion, and for it to serve as a shield and a guide of the better to come: Jesus Christ our righteousness, in him the law (the letter) is fulfilled so we can be under the new law of the Spirit, which is now written on our hearts.
Just re-read Romans 9-11...fits right in there with unconditional to Abraham. How i love The Word and discoveries of gems!
I have left a media ministry that have some churches where the members believe in egw books.
They don’t reveal the root of their doctrins and they mainly spread sabbath day is the God’s seal and people cannot sure that the life from God is eternal they insist that we can get life from God but we would lose it if we don’t follow “the light” that from egw.
Egw mentioned her writing as a small light for guiding to the big light, pretty sounds humble, but being based on her doctrin, the bible readers gets to totally different results- no assurance of life, no perfect save from Jesus..etc
Those can be together the teaching of bible. So I left that church, now I set free from sin and keeping the law people insist.
I left there not to eat meat, stop eating meat is not that difficult. It was torturing me that seeing people keep their eternal life and build up their knowledge of books of egw and interpret the Bible by that and that was not God’s intention. There’ s no fruit of spirit so people there are struggling make the fruits by making effort..
Hebrew 8:7-8 is talking about finding faults with the people but not the covenant and the new covenant is the same covenant but place it in their heart. As Jesus said in Matthew 5:27-28 You have heard that it was said to those of old,‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. Meaning the new covenant is not to sin and take goat or ram to the priest and pardon is received. No. Our heart will forbits us to refrain from sin, not even contemplating on it. The Ten commandments is the only handwriting work in the entire Bible that God Himself Wrote and its stands as a guide to humanity to all eternity. Or would they be à time that we will worship other gods and prostrate before them? Or take the Lord's name in vain? Or worship someone else other then the creator? Or do not honour our parents,? Or Do murder? Or commit adultery? Or do steal? Or bear false witness against your neighbour? Or covet anything of your neighbours? If all these are still biding, where is the new covenant? The problem is about us and not God's. Thanks
People have different opinions on a lot of things. What Christ followers do agree on are the ESSENTIALS, Christ's deity, His Finished work on the cross, the depravity of man and need for a savior, and that GRACE is what saves us
Being saved by doing works of the law isn't a different opinion, it's a different gospel, and being saved by keeping the old covenant law is at the heart of Ellen G White's teachings.
""Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law." - Romans 3:31
Why would Paul tell us to establish the law, which includes (re)establishing Sabbath keeping, if it is no longer in effect?
Feel sorry for those people have been deceived with these types of teachings I will never leave SDA...lol
The law of JESUS CHRIST
It's been 6 years since your comments I'm not sure you'll see this, but by Paul saying we establish the law..... He's saying it is not okay to go out and kill or commit adultery Etc ... he is upholding the moral standing of the law! The law is not erased in the moral sense. But if you have Christ in your heart you're not going to break those laws anyhow, are you?
The law he talking about is not the Mosaic law we are to uphold but rather the law of Christ. Jesus made the law Moses obsolete because we don't offer burnt offering of animals to atone for sins.
We establish it (fulfill it) by living in the spirit... the new covenant. The law isnt fulfilled by works or keeping the sabbath (which no one does perfectly and we failed at it)
For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: "Love your neighbor as yourself." Galatians 5:14
13For you, brothers, were called to freedom; but do not use your freedom as an opportunity for the flesh. Rather, serve one another in love. 14The entire Law is fulfilled in a single decree: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” 15But if you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out, or you will be consumed by each other.…
You should experience the joy of keeping the sabbath. You would probably change your mind because got instituted the sabbath so it has to be good
“Got instituted”????
Do you realize what audience you have wandered into???
FORMER SDAs….
We have been released from the twisted biased views of EGW.
Blessed Be.
The law cannot save you. The law was ADDED. The law is said by SDAs to be eternal. There is no sabbath command until the book of Exodus.
I was not a Seventh Day Adventist, but I have been trying to keep the Sabbath and the law really by my own works sense 1983. Colleen Tinker that study has convinced me that you are spot on!!! I have a wonderfully good feeling about this. This really is freedom. I get it!!! The law really is written on my heart. This is not the first time that I have questioned or studied this. I am not agreeing with you on this at the drop of a hat. This is the icing on the cake!!!
Amen!!!
Amen the only time you can be allowed or ready to see God in person is when you are liberated from anything and everything , above all that is earthly human and physical. Love is the greatest attribute of God, penultimately expressed in the creation of the first humans then after the fall of the children of Abraham God came himself in the form of Yeshua. It gets even better. His spirit of truth, discernment, love, peace and character is now with us.
All humans can access it if they will. Rise up now, know God as he truly is, love him respect him out of your conscience and will of choice.. because He is a person who we all can relate to, we can call Father. Amen
"But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does." - James 1:25
Why would James tell us to continue in the law after Christ had already risen if it's no longer in effect? This would include the Sabbath day also.
It's amazing how you can squeeze out of a verse what isn't really there. But it fits your doctrines so you continue to do it.
6 years later so you may not get this,, but you really need to research deeply the law of Liberty..... Therein lies your answer.
Galatians 5:1-4
This was a really good presentation! I would pray that all of my SDA friends would watch this and come to the realization that in Christ, you keep the Sabbath rest!
Now we can keep the Sabbath rest every moment of every day, by faith, by not working, but letting God work through us by the inspiration of His Holy Spirit. The physical sabbath was only a shadow of this. You can rest while you work, because God works through you. See Hebrews 4.
For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath CEASED FROM HIS OWN WORKS, as God did from his.
There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
Let go and let God and rest in the Lord. "But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God." John 3:21. " How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?" Hebrews 9:14. Let God work while you rest in Him.
George Franquiz" You can go on worshipping the Sun-gods on Sundays, that´s your cup of tea.
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To which “sun god” are you referring?”
Thankyou so much l have been going to some evangelist meetings that are SDA and was almost persuaded. You have put me back on solid ground God bless you richly my sister.
Hi, Im not sure what entity that fuel this site, but they decive aswell. I would say SDA is the truth seeker of all the denominations. They atleast study the Bible and it's prohecy. who does that? who have the gift of propecy? Jesus promised yhis to the remnant who keeps Gods commandments in for exampel Revelation 12:14. I guess there are bad people/churches everywhere, but try another SDA church and let The Holy Spirit lead you the way that Jesus thought.
I have rarely seen such an honest and pure testimony of the gospel of Jesus of Nazereth.
Rome had calendars with eight days, eleven days, and so forth. There have been many variations. Where is there a text that says we will be in heaven for 1000 years? Rev. 21 and 22 say that there is no sun or moon in the new Jerusalem...no passing days. The 1000 years in heaven idea is only in EGW. Rev. 20 describes 1000 years on earth, with Christ ruling over the nations. The Bible doesn't say we'll be in heaven for 1000 years.
The bible foesnt say Jesus will come doen to earth, (sounds like superman). No he will reign in the 1000 years nre jerusalem from heaven.
Thank you for this most informative lecture. I am pleased to see that your conclusions closely match the onclusion that I reached after looking into this matter over many, (30+) years.
There is an obscure passage in Nehemiah, 9:13 & 14 which demolishes the sdas' claim that the sabbath was kept from creation! Nehemiah plainly states that the sabbath was made known to Israel at Sinai! This, of course fits nicely with the many passages that state that the sabbath was the sign of the Mosaic covenant, also made at Sinai and as you so well explained, is no longer in effect.
I look forward to listening to your other lectures on UA-cam. Thank you again.
That is not what the scripture says, it says in Genesis about the seventh day rest when created etc. Ofcourse that Eve & Adam and the other that stayed faithfull kept the sabbath. It is eternal, and it is in the ten commandments. It is litterally the inly sentences that God himself wrote with is own fingers... Not worth keeping? It will be a major thing in the end time, for the propechy says that, revelation 14:12
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You are venerating a thing over The Creator of The Universe.
The words of the creation account are the words God gave us. We have to see the "evening and morning" distinction as different on the seventh day than during the six of creation. (The seventh day, by the way, was not a day of creation. Creation was six days.) God created nothing on the 7th day; He ceased. He did not resume His work of creation. His "ceasing" did not end, and it was not a single day.
Wonderful message. Thank you Colleen
Thank you!
I think we get that he said remember to a certain day holy, we can't really compare it to saying remember to take your coat if you go outside. If it is it cold out there. It is a different situation.
The sabbath was to the lord in the old covenant. In the new covenant the sabbath rest is for us to rest in him. He said so.❤
Colleen is a great talker! Extremely fun to listen to, not to mention loads of well compiled information she effortlessly passes on
People leave Adventism because we try to follow the example of Christ. But people don't want to die to sin or anything else that pleases the carnal heart. For example, most women want to wear jewelry and because we don't wear jewelry as adventists, they rather look for some other place. That's just one example
Seriously?!?
As if not wearing jewelry saves you. Your righteousness is but filthy rags. There's absolutely nothing you can do to save yourself. Nothing. The arrogance to think women leave the church just to wear earrings. If you believe so strongly in adventism you should be praying for them and not assume they left to sin. Aren't Adventists doing all sorts of wrong doing even within the church?
I'm so glad u pointed out the luni calander God's true calender.
The OLD COVENANT is man's shaky promises to God... which ALL eventually fail--"all that you have said WE will do, Lord" as we're making our golden calf...
The NEW COVENANT is GOD'S one-way promise to man... "I will write my law upon your heart."
Some of the content here is not scripturally supported but imposed assumptions. When the word says specifically to do something how can we assume around it? How can we just assume it’s been done away with when it doesn’t specifically say forget the Sabbath you don’t got to keep it anymore there’s no scripture like that.
What a good sermon, you make really good points. Please keep up the good work, people leaving SDA need to go somewhere besides atheism!
Colleen Tinker Genesis 4, Cain killing Abel was sin. God specifically told Cain his murderous thoughts were sin and it would control him. Joseph sleeping with Potiphar's wife would be a sin against God (Adultery), which Joseph refused to do. These are samples of parts of the Decalogue which are before the period Paul refers to in Galatians.
And the interesting thing is that Paul says the law he is talking about was added because of transgression. What was being transgressed?
Elebert Vundhla Right and wrong are not determined by the law. Morality-right and wrong-are attributes of God Himself. God didn't need the law to know right from wrong, but humans who are spiritually dead lost the ability to know right from wrong. Romans 1 through 3 describes the condition of sinful humanity. Ephesians 2:1-3 further explains that we are born dead in sin and subject to Satan. We are simply not born with a "spark" of light or goodness in us. Our spirits are dead because of Adam and Eve's sin in the garden. According to Romans 5 and 1 Corinthians 15, every human ever born (with the exception of the Lord Jesus) was born spiritually dead and subject to satan.
God gave Israel the law in order to point out to them what they were already doing that was sinful. The point of the law (read Romans 1 through 8 carefully, and Galatians) was to point out sin...not only to point it out, but to INCREASE sin. The law was not given to help men become good. It was given to clearly show that all humanity is under a curse. Natural man cannot please God, obey God, honor God, or even seek God (Rom. 3:9-16). We are born DEAD, without the life of God in us, citizens of the domain of darkness (Col. 1:13). The law was given to define sin to a people who had lost sight of the nature of their sins. It was given to make people aware that they were helpless and cursed, and it spelled out the fact that death was the consequence of their sin.
Jesus came and fulfilled that law. He lived a sinless life...not because He prayed hard and managed to overcome sin, as EGW says, but because He was conceived SINLESS...alive with the life of God from the moment of conception. He was the only human who did not have to be born again, to be made spiritually alive. He WAS sinless not because He didn't sin. He didn't sin because He was sinless. He not only lived without sin, but He fulfilled the curse of the law. He took the death the Law explained was the natural consequence for every single human ever born...except for Jesus. Because He was a man, He could die the human death that human sin required. Because He was God, He could bear the infinite sins of the human race....He didn't just die as one Man for another. He was able, because He was God, to bear the sin for the entire human race.
The transgression which the law was added to expose was the natural sinfulness of every man. Unless one understands that man is literally (not just figuratively) spiritually dead from the moment of conception (by Nature children of wrath), they are born into intractable sin. This sinfulness was what the law was given to reveal. As David said, "Against Thee only have I sinned." Mankind does not sin against the law. Mankind sins against God. The law merely identifies the sin that every human does, and it defines the curse of death which is the God-appointed consequence of sin. Read Romans 3 and the short book of Galatians. :)
Colleen Tinker Romans 7 says otherwise.And Romans 8 explains why we are not subject to God's law.
Romans 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God. 5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death. 6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter. 7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. 8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead. 9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died. 10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
Verse 10 says the commandment was ordained to life. But when it is broken it brings death. Jesus was asked once what one should do to inherit eternal life and his answer bordered around the fact that we ought to keep the commandments.
Now if the purpose of the commandments is line with what you say, Jesus was out of line to give that response. But we both know Jesus was right
***** Read all the texts that talk about Jesus' human nature. In actual fact the very idea that he could die means that his nature was one that was subject to death. Paul in Romans 8 elaborates it this way:
Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
So your rhetoric about Jesus being sinless because that is how he was born is ridiculous. More ridiculous would be Jesus statement if what you said was true "Övercome as I have overcome..." .
The emphasis on scripture is not the law but obedience. When Adam sinned he had no inherent sin, he was made perfect. So much so, that even Lucifer himself was declared perfect at creation.
Your rhetoric just shows how much you know of the whole plan of redemption. He was tempted on all points as we are and yet without sin, is different from the points you bring up.
***** Upon review of your statement. You are right and I am sorry for that. I guess my response was to the italicized part and you did not clearly state it was referencing what some-one else said.
@@TheElebert I respect you for admitting that. What you did is rare in the comment sections
It's not a stretch if you look at the terms of the covenants. Sabbath was the sign of the Mosaic covenant (Ex. 31:13-18). Jesus changed the Passover meal into the Lord's Supper, fulfilling its symbols by introducing His own broken body and spilled blood. The bread and wine of Passover became the new covenant in His blood and body. Circumcision of the heart replaced circumcision; the Lord' Supper became the new "remember". Jesus fulfilled the shadows of the law (Col. 2:16-17).
The Sabbath was established b4 Israel !
You are misleading people
Wrong God gave HIS law to Moses.. the law belongs to God...ten commandments belongs to God alone...
The Sabbath was first implemented in the garden and will be held in heaven. It’s kinda everlasting now 🙄. I learned that by reading the Bible without any Adventist study guides. I can understand your thoughts or conflicted feelings on EW, but there is a lot your looking past with Bible truths and willing to throw out the window Mrs. Tinker.
I don’t mean that as an insult. Paul encourages us to keep the law.. no law equals no sin and no need of Jesus and therefore everything goes and everyone goes.. to heaven? Which laws should we keep and which should we disavow?
@@jorgehidalgo676 I love the whole law, including seventh day sabbath :) not by my own works, but by the holy spirit who guides me on the narrow oath that is way of Jesus. Jesus kept the Sabbath even in his death, woke up after Sabbath etc. Reveleation 14:12 tells the remnant in the endtimes.
It's pretty simple Colleen. Hebrews 4 in no way suggests that our rest in Christ somehow "eclipses" or "erases" the actual physical keeping of the Sabbath. Rather, Paul is revealing how the literal Seventh-Day Sabbath rest (sabbatismos), symbolizes and celebrates our spiritual rest in Christ Jesus. This is the "katapausis" rest. Paul uses a similar argument in Romans 6, where Baptism is a symbol of our death, burial, and resurrection in Christ Jesus. But the spiritual never eclipses the literal
The resurrection of Jesus Christ is EVERYTHING. Jesus paid it ALL!
Saved in Christ alone. That's freedom. And freedom is my paradise.
If a man is fully convinced in his own mind that he’s examined every facet of evidence and taken on a bit of toil to study the word, then after seeking with all their hearts still conclude to one specific answer that goes contrary to other brethren or common so called knowledge, I think they would be justified by God. Even if they were in error?
Awesomely stated
Great job Colleen Tinker!
Adventist talk about keeping the Law of God dont keep the Law of God.
They had to keep Sabbath if they were lodging in a Jewish home. If they permanently lived in a Jewish home, they had to be circumcised (Gen. 17:12-13). Uncircumcised gentiles passing through had to observe Jewish law while in Jewish homes; they were not subject to the law once they left. The law was not theirs (Romans 2).
Colleen Tinker great. Gentiles are exempted. God has rules for Jews and no rules for gentiles. Great.
Interesting. I'll have to research this point. Thanks!
On Galatians chapter 3, the best way was to start with verse number 15 than just coming to start with verse number 17. I think in this way we are not doing justice to the scriptures. Matters of the scriptures, a context must always be considered.
You have to keep reading the whole chapter..Not just a text or two..Because as you said you will lose the context..Read the whole thing and look closely at 23-24-25
We were under a guardian..(the law) (some translations say tutor), But we are not under that guardian any more..
The law ended when Faith came to be..
15Brothers, let me put this in human terms. Even a human covenant, once it is ratified, cannot be canceled or amended. 16The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. The Scripture does not say, “and to seeds,” meaning many, but “and to your seed,”h meaning One, who is Christ.
17What I mean is this: The law that came 430 years later does not revoke the covenant previously established by God, so as to nullify the promise. 18For if the inheritance depends on the law, then it no longer depends on a promise; but God freely granted it to Abraham through a promise.
19Why then was the law given? It was added because of transgressions, until the arrival of the seed to whom the promise referred. It was administered through angels by a mediator. 20A mediator is unnecessary, however, for only one party; but God is one.
21Is the law, then, opposed to the promises of God? Certainly not! For if a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would certainly have come from the law. 22But the Scripture pronounces all things confined by sin, so that by faith in Jesus Christ the promise might be given to those who believe.
23Before this faith came, we were held in custody under the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. 24So the law became our guardian to lead us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25Now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian.
Jesus is Almighty God. He could not fail. We know He broke the Sabbath because Scripture said He did (John 5:18). But according to the law, His Sabbath-breaking was not sin because He was fulfilling Sabbath. He was demonstrating that He, the reality of the Sabbath shadow, was here (see Col 2:16-17). He also broke the laws of not touching lepers or dead people without ritual cleansing. He touched them and gave life. He broke and fulfilled the ritual laws foreshadowing Him. They pointed to Him.
Adventists insist that "law" equals "decalogue" wherever the terms law, commandments, or statues are used in Scripture. This assumption is false. In Scripture, "Law", "Statutes", and "Commandments" refer to the entire word/counsel of God, not just to the Decalogue. Exodus 35:28 specifically identifies the Ten Commandments as the "words of the covenant" that God made with Israel on Mt Sinai. They are not "the law" generally referred to in Scripture. That "law" is God's entire word.
The text is Joshua 24.2
EG WHITE did not understand Sola Scriptura.
Question: "What is sola scriptura?"
Answer: The phrase sola scriptura is from the Latin: sola having the idea of “alone,” “ground,” “base,” and the word scriptura meaning “writings”-referring to the Scriptures. Sola scriptura means that Scripture alone is authoritative for the faith and practice of the Christian. The Bible is complete, authoritative, and true. “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness” (2 Timothy 3:16).
66 books in the bible and she could not understand Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath and we r free to pick any day.
Yes, they distort it.
Egw never change the bible like roman catholic they change Gods law with tradition of man.
Solo scriptura is not biblical
Didn't you know that they have the moon cycles on the calendar? My mother used go them when one of sisters would have a baby. She said that when the moon would full that my sister would go into labor.
Dear. There is not perfect religious teaching. SDA have points and if you can’t agree and see everything wrong then you are wrong.
Everyone is choose because of Gods mercy. Including imperfect SDA. And your imperfect religion too.
By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:
Hebrews 11:8-9
God bless you, Colleen Tinker. And Gos bless this channel. Thank you for this ministry. To both preaching the true Gospel while also exposing Satan’s lies and the lies of them who’s been decieved by him.
The Holy Spirit lives in and works through you 🙏❤️
I don't believe in SDA at all, I was listening to Elder Ted Wilson explain to Rev. 12: 17 confused me
2:32 But that was even more rude to think that Jesus Christ was rude. You've forgotten that he's the creator of everything and has the power and the right to say anything to his creations. The bible says, in Isaiah 45/8 “Woe to him who strives with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth! Shall the clay say to him who forms it, ‘What are you making?’ Or shall your handiwork say, ‘He has no hands’?
What about the covenant that God made with Adam and Eve before they ate the fruit? Is that not the same scenario as he gave the Israelites at Mt. Sinai? If you obey me you will live, but if you disobey me and eat of the forbidden fruit you will die. Are you saying it was also impossible for them to keep this conditional covenant?
There is no Judges 24:4 or Judges 4:24 referring to Abraham?
NellieJoy Roberts Sorry--it was Joshua 24. Here's what it says: "Joshua said to all the people, 'Thus says the LORD, the God of Israel, "From ancient times your fathers lived beyond the River, namely, Terah, the father of Abraham and the father of Nahor, and they served other gods. Then I took your father Abraham from beyond the River, and led him through all the land of Canaan, and multiplied his descendants and gave him Isaac"'" (Josh. 24:2-3).
Abraham and his father and his brother Nahor worshiped other gods. Abraham was called out of paganism, moon worship, actually-that was the prevailing religion in Mesopotamia at that time. God called him not because he was righteous but because He chose Him for His own purposes. He is the One who made Abraham the "father of the faithful" and caused his heart to believe.
And at precisely the 17:00 mark of the video Colleen meant to say Deuteronomy 5 where she accidentally said Genesis 5......but I knew that she meant Deuteronomy 5. By the way Colleen....you gave a wonderful informative and very heartfelt talk on the Sabbath!!! A video that makes it so clear what we need to be doing in this day and age. I'll be sure to check out more of your presentations....thanks!!!
@@ColleenTinker Thanks ! I looked up Judges but it is Joshua. :) Thankful
I was told years ago when Women start standing up and preach in church all will change,their way, Men will follow. Just as Eve did. Soon after SDA will change, it is now...oh dear...as it was in the beginning it will be in the end.....
Lol dude really? SDA was formed by a woman who admittedly didn’t understand the Bible unless she was actively having a vision. She was even known to make dress code rules for the ladies in church and later quietly stopped following them herself. Read Galatians 1:8.
I love when you said that communion is a new remember for us. Can see you have done lots of study on this subject and look pretty exited about what you found. 👏🏻
So you discovered SDA doctrine is false. Great. You abandoned the SDA. Great. Am sure there is a non-SDA who made the opposite discovery.
That's too much relative. A Christian can abandoned Christianity and embrace Islam and vice-versa. It's all about experience and reason . I was a non-SDA and I was SDA for 8 years and I clear see how wrong it is now. It's about being honest and in being well with your conscience.
Pip Santos there are many that have religion and do not have a relationship with Jesus Christ. Thus, without the Holy Spirit many will see through the veil instead of clearly with eyes and ears honed to Jesus as Lord and Savior. It has been a year, so I am hopeful you have been brought to truth. Read 2 Corinthians ch 3 and 4.
Yes there are thousands.
Jesus fulfilled the Law by keeping it for us that cannot. He saves us by paying for us all and we love and are grateful to Him for giving us this rest in Him. We go to church on the Sabbath to celebrate the rest He gave us by fulfilling all the Laws of God.
Do you still keep the Sabbath Holy
IN THE BEGINNING, GOD CREATED MAN TO FREELY & WILLINGLY CHOOSE TO LOVE & OBEY HIM AS HIS GRATEFUL, THANKFUL CHILDREN. He really preferred the whole thing by grace & faith to begin with & there were very few rules, very few laws, everything was to be done voluntarily out of love.--That was His original plan.
BUT AS MAN BECAME MORE & MORE DISOBEDIENT & WICKED, God had to give him more & more laws & rules & regulations. These laws were not made for the righteous, because the righteous doesn't harm or do wrong to his neighbour, the righteous one loves. But they were made for the wrong-doers, the evil people, the wicked.
THE LAWS WERE GIVEN FOR THE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT HAVE LOVE, who do evil, unloving, harmful things. The Bible says that "the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless & disobedient, for the ungodly & for sinners, for unholy & profane, for murderers of fathers & murderers of mothers, for manslayers." (1Tim.1:9)
@Myhopeisinhim If the bible is truly God's word, and it is inerrant, then why do you Christians have such a tough time agreeing with each other? Why are there so many different denominations within Christianity, each with a DIFFERENT beliefs, although they all follow the same bible? I know I have asked you this question before....But I just don't get it!
People will do great study to contort scripture, take things way out context, use ad hom attacks on others, because they know full well the Sabbath is in effect, and I truly believe they simply don't have the faith or the courage to stand up for Christ and his seal of Creation if it means ostracizing yourself from your friends and family.
John 7:22-23
But you work on the Sabbath, too, when you obey Moses' law of circumcision. (Actually, this tradition of circumcision began with the patriarchs, long before the law of Moses.)
"If a man receives circumcision on the Sabbath so that the Law of Moses will not be broken, are you angry with Me because I made an entire man well on the Sabbath?
What type of work Jesus performed on the Sabbath?...did Jesus mowed his lawn on the Sabbath or did his washing on the Sabbath? Or did he healed people on the Sabbath?...
There is only one Sabbath Day, and the 4th commandment outlines exactly which day that is, however, salvation is thru Christ alone...period. Keeping commandments will not earn salvation. But why, in any case, are men so determined in their rebellion against what God so clearly established in order to exalt another day of their own making? All the verbiage trying to defend Sunday observance is little more than an act of defiance and self exaltation, and we know where all that first started. It came straight from Hell, and Hell's legions are it's chief defenders, whether born of men, or the Fallen of God's first creations.
I would ask why so many are determined to follow any man made day of worship instead of the one God so clearly outlined and defined as the one He made and sanctified for the good of man?
Thanks for the great work you are doing, but on the issue of Abram worshipping pagan gods i beg to differ, where did you get that.
I agree with you that he's not chosen because he's righteous, but that he's serving other gods i beg to be shown where you got it from.
Joshua 24:2, 3: "Joshua said to all the people, "Thus says the LORD, the God of Israel, 'From ancient times your fathers lived beyond the River, [namely,] Terah, the father of Abraham and the father of Nahor, and they served other gods. 'Then I took your father Abraham from beyond the River, and led him through all the land of Canaan, and multiplied his descendants and gave him Isaac." (Jos 24:2-3 NASB95) Abraham's family all worshiped other gods. God called Abram and revealed Himself to him. Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him for righteousness (Gen. 15:6).
Joshua 24:2
And Joshua said to all the people, “Thus says the Lord God of Israel: ‘Your fathers, including Terah, the father of Abraham and the father of Nahor, dwelt on the other side of the River in old times; and they served other gods.
Thanks a lot for your statement about Sabbath,,, God blessed us.
Yes ONLY through Jesus will you find true Sabbath. Bless you
So if the ten commandments is itself, the old covenant, and not the promise to keep it under our own power, to what law was Dan 7:25 referring, where times and laws would be changed by the man of sin? And who was or could be the man of sin? In a video by Mark Woodman, the papacy lined up with 21 points from the Bible describing the man of sin. Could anyone other than the papacy be the Antichrist and fulfill all 21 points? If not, I seriously, would not worship on Sunday, if the U.S. passes such a law. It looks like Europe will legislate that all business be closed on Sunday and our President and many legislators who consider the pope to be the moral leader of our country, will also pass this first stage of the Sunday law. Will you obey, if mandatory Sunday worship actually becomes law?
This is a deeply disturbing statement. He cannot break the Sabbath and not sin at the same time, we're told outright 'Sin is transgression of the Law.'
He broke the Sabbath according to man's flawed view of the Sabbath, which has no weight. They had taken it to extreme ends with man made regulations But Bekinkosi is right, by your interpretation Christ is a sinner if you're going to claim he broke the Sabbath. I hope you will prayerfully reconsider your position on this.
Then everytime Jesus healed and touched the sick and dead he sinned according to the law.
Genesis 2:1-3...Sabbath is a memorial unto creation.
What do you do with Idaiah 66:22-23
"From one Sabbath (body rest) to another", Jesus is the new rest (soul rest). From Moses (Sabbath) to another (Jesus)......no man will be justified by the works of The Old Law
@adarkes01 What law is paul referring to here?
John 7:17
If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine
Adam and Eve's eyes were not opened and had NO Knowledge of EVIL whatsoever. They were immortal and sinless the only law/rule they were able to transgress was the ONLY the ONE that was given to them. Thou shalt not eat of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.
A lot of words injected into explaining the context. True mixed with error. Also why is it the Adventists fault you didn't understand Hebrews/Romans? You need to test everything yourself. Sounds like you follow teachers and make an opinion around that.
Didn't Adam and Eve keep the Sabbath in the garden?
Is this more about being an Adventist or is this about Sabbath keeping. Because Sabbath keeping or being a Sabbath keeper is very biblical. But it would seem to me right off the bat that she has complaints about Adventist because that is all that she talks about in the beginning
Plus if you notice God said remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy not keep the Sabbath day
Purity and Holiness
Well done Colleen, keep up the good work!
Adrian
Psalms 119 all 150 verses speak of God's law
Thats very good sister we have an example of Abraham he had faith and thats what Jesus was preaching nothing else.
so is saturday a pagan name all the days of the week are and the months of year. if we keep the saturday sabbath we are under the old jewish laws. jesus took the sabbath on himself. he is lord of the sabbath. read about this in your bible. he called the Pharisees hypocrites. they led out the donkey from the stall. or collected the sheep from the mire. you adventists are wrong.
What's the name for Saturday in Chinese? In Estonian? In Japanese? I fear your "pagan name" theory doesn't work for every language.
Sabbath in Serbian language is Subota.
Interesting presentation, and she is welcome to her opinion, but her presentation is sadly lacking in scriptural evidence, in my opinion.
+Dr. “mfddoc” MD Don't know how you can say that. After every point she backs it up with scripture.
Seriously Dr.! This teaching by C.Tinkler is full of scripture for sufficient correcting the inadequate bible knowledge that comes with SDAism. (that comes from EGW's inadequate understanding of God & His word)
To both amazing amazing and Leah......just because a person has ears doesn't mean they know how to listen!!!
You're misrepresenting the scriptures Ma'am. Arent you afraid of twisting the truth and make it more comfortable for you?
If the 4th commandment is done away with, then presumably the other 9 is also abolished. We can have other god's above God, we can murder, commit adultery, and steal! I've never throughout history, seen anyone argue against those. We all want to give God what we want, just like Cain, we see the outcome of that.
Leyton thank you. ....I dont have read any more comments. This send me back to what I know. Thanks bro
Scripture to prove the Ten C's predated Moses? Galatians 3:16-17 identifies the Decalogue's beginning and ending. The primordial world did not need the decalogue in order to be guilty of sin. Romans 5:12-14 states that sin was in the world before the law, but sin is not imputed when there is no law. Nevertheless, death (the wages of sin) reigned from Adam until Moses.
I'm glad she in more about what the sabbath is than what it is than what it is not. I didn't understand it either. Jesus gives us rest from sin. We live by faith. Jesus made the old covenant obsolete. The old covenant was heaven and earth that passed , because it was fulfilled.
The way they stated in Matthew 5, till heaven and earth pass, not jot or tittle will pass from till all is fulfilled.
Which means heaven and earth cannot pass until all the scripture of him is fulfilled. It was. 😊
@Myhopeisinhim *DIFFERENT beliefs
I wanna have a debate with her
Read your bible. The truth is not in you.
Is funny he puts a desire to do everything but keep the sabbath
Hi sister Horeb means mout in Hebrew so in inglish will be saying . IN THE MOUNTAIN = ( HOREB)
Colleen is saying Christ Jesus broke the law, if he did then we need another Savior or he would be a sinner like us ....sound like a sunday preacher.
My gosh this is excellent 👏!
Amazing Facts founder Joe Crews was the first person I heard who stated that Colossians 2:16 doesn’t mean what we believe it means. It clearly says the Sabbath is no longer necessary for Christians to keep. Amazing Facts needs to be renamed Amazing Fables.
Colleen may have another avenue for Sunday keepers. I different spin... the problem is it has to many holes it in. I want to cover later in a new Utube. The devil does not give up. His time is short.
This comment will probably go unseen since it's been 10 years since this video was posted, but what a fantastic message! I currently observe the sabbath, holy days, and dietary laws, but recently have been feeling my position(s) on them are in serious jeopardy. This message helped move me closer to that belief. Is there any way to get a copy of the notes that were mentioned during this message? I'm on a quest for truth (see my UA-cam handle name) and am willing to follow the truth wherever it leads, regardless of how it impacts my life.
@aletheiaquest, thank you for posting. We have a wealth of helpful material available for you. Please email me at proclamation@gmail.com, and I will respond and get some resources into your hands. You are not alone, and the real gospel of the new covenant in Jesus' blood is so much more amazing than we knew!