It's ok to look | Kristen Vermilyea | TEDxZurich

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  • @williamchadwick7948
    @williamchadwick7948 5 років тому +2331

    She could make her case even more effectively if she delivered the talk topless.

  • @tremorchristlester4688
    @tremorchristlester4688 4 роки тому +607

    By nature men/women are gonna look at what attracts them. We're all attracted to beauty.

  • @andrewthomas695
    @andrewthomas695 5 років тому +911

    I feel sorry for young adults these days. The contradictory messages on social behaviour is unwavering.

    • @juanvaldez1347
      @juanvaldez1347 5 років тому +63

      Andrew Thomas You are the Socrates of our times. Now, drink the SJW provided hemlock for your audacity and dedication to truth.

    • @tristanbutcher8211
      @tristanbutcher8211 5 років тому +72

      Bro you have a minecraft avatar

    • @Luis-vy9bm
      @Luis-vy9bm 5 років тому +21

      But he is right.

    • @joecollins1659
      @joecollins1659 4 роки тому +1

      Wow...

    • @kellenbrennan6992
      @kellenbrennan6992 4 роки тому +13

      Dont be, it’s easy, I’m a single male 29 and it’s really easy, you just need to be considerate of others, that’s all it is.

  • @dominiccugliari2282
    @dominiccugliari2282 4 роки тому +191

    I like her, she’s very moderate. She recognizes our biology but is not excusing rudeness. Perfect way to discuss and god bless her.

  • @cry_now_laugh_later
    @cry_now_laugh_later 5 років тому +1781

    If Steve Buscemi looks, it’s creepy.
    If Chris Hemsworth looks, it’s cool.

  • @stevematson4808
    @stevematson4808 5 років тому +2193

    Its ok to look if you're good looking.

  • @quetzalthegamer
    @quetzalthegamer 4 роки тому +454

    She reminds me of Fairy Godmother from Shrek 2.

  • @nickcara97
    @nickcara97 4 роки тому +501

    “There’s no shame in looking at a body.”
    That’s not what you’ve been telling me for the past 13 minutes.

    • @mr.e5791
      @mr.e5791 4 роки тому +26

      @RunFor OurLives But is it okay to objectify someone based on their utility to you?

    • @slaphappyduplenty2436
      @slaphappyduplenty2436 4 роки тому +27

      @Spyda99 - You mean like when women ogle at my biceps or my Mercedes?

    • @TheRInRELXS
      @TheRInRELXS 4 роки тому +9

      Slaphappy Duplenty I get what you’re going for but your Mercedes is a car not a part of your body

    • @Mechamjr88
      @Mechamjr88 4 роки тому +49

      @@TheRInRELXS you know what he means man. The car represents money which attracts women. A LOT of them. That's how women objectify men.

    • @benxvariety8878
      @benxvariety8878 4 роки тому +2

      actually it is

  • @Micheal0094
    @Micheal0094 5 років тому +1223

    Lmao that guy thought he was gonna get to feel them up🤣

  • @fredivory4304
    @fredivory4304 5 років тому +803

    She has the perfect voice for this.

    • @hangukhiphop
      @hangukhiphop 5 років тому +21

      Made her so much hotter P:

    • @planetstupider502
      @planetstupider502 5 років тому +54

      I would like to bury my face in those luv pillows. And out of respect I would then shake her hand to say thanks.

    • @armandoc.3150
      @armandoc.3150 5 років тому +5

      @@planetstupider502 lmfao you fuckin funny man you.

    • @Ryan-kb8ui
      @Ryan-kb8ui 5 років тому +2

      And boobs

    • @Pugetwitch
      @Pugetwitch 5 років тому +5

      Like nails on a chalkboard

  • @MrJamesdryable
    @MrJamesdryable 5 років тому +733

    "I think you're getting it already."
    : *Literally no one.*

    • @appa609
      @appa609 5 років тому +6

      I guessed they all were about the same weight

    • @sarcasm-83
      @sarcasm-83 5 років тому +40

      My brain; Wow 750 sheets of paper have the same amount of calories as a baby?

    • @neonshark6972
      @neonshark6972 5 років тому +21

      This ted talk created more questions and confusions than answers.

    • @kingofkingsVAR
      @kingofkingsVAR 4 роки тому +2

      😂😂😂 yo exactly what I thought

    • @UnexpectedWonder
      @UnexpectedWonder 4 роки тому

      Absolutely!

  • @DanielDuedu
    @DanielDuedu 5 років тому +80

    You are the CEO of your life. We can't control how people react toward us, but we have control on how those reactions affect us. The least we can do is set a good example by treating people like how we want to be treated.

    • @joecliffordson
      @joecliffordson 2 роки тому +2

      CEO training. Don’t look. Don’t comment.
      If I was to treat women the way I want them to treat me …. I would not be employable.

    • @DanielDuedu
      @DanielDuedu 2 роки тому +1

      @@joecliffordson Interesting.

  • @ThaBigSkyline
    @ThaBigSkyline 5 років тому +2181

    This is one of the weirdest flexes I’ve ever seen

    • @Crymble
      @Crymble 5 років тому +37

      But ok

    • @asakundwimavhungu7241
      @asakundwimavhungu7241 5 років тому +28

      Biggest flexes on TedEd

    • @ihcfn
      @ihcfn 4 роки тому +21

      Genuinely laughed out loud because this was not the comment I was expecting to see! Well done!

    • @ianalan4367
      @ianalan4367 4 роки тому +4

      Agreed! Sadly I watched over 3 min of it.

    • @dannygjk
      @dannygjk 4 роки тому +6

      An excellent talk summed up by calling it a flex...

  • @bokchoiman
    @bokchoiman 4 роки тому +559

    I still don't know what this talk is about

    • @sticksman1979
      @sticksman1979 4 роки тому +63

      FelineHYPER Boobs.

    • @MarquisVonMonster
      @MarquisVonMonster 4 роки тому +17

      It doesn’t really matter.

    • @csarheras5587
      @csarheras5587 4 роки тому +5

      Balls on your neck i guess or something like that ...It is a gender studied class more o less, at least we didn t get a guilt trip that bad

    • @Acore-ly9qx
      @Acore-ly9qx 4 роки тому +2

      @NonyaBusiness! yes exactly my thougts. woman don't underatand. it s not a choise to look, it just happens and when that happens everything else goes on mute

    • @dabobfotoday5397
      @dabobfotoday5397 4 роки тому +14

      Not objectifying people based on physical featires

  • @Qaydum
    @Qaydum 5 років тому +282

    4:38 that dude totally thought he was gonna cop a feel lmao

    • @mullimullz2549
      @mullimullz2549 5 років тому +7

      S O V I E T gotem

    • @startedat36yearsold33
      @startedat36yearsold33 4 роки тому +3

      Paused at 4:50... why the paper on chair...... rehearsed?

    • @eaglespiritt
      @eaglespiritt 4 роки тому +1

      Sadly

    • @dudeb9168
      @dudeb9168 4 роки тому +1

      Yep

    • @someyeeterontheblock2421
      @someyeeterontheblock2421 3 роки тому

      thank you this is what I came here for someone mentions this to me and another comment section and I did not believe him so I had to find it and I found it.

  • @nielnielsen4822
    @nielnielsen4822 5 років тому +505

    sexualizing and objectifying are not the same thing.

    • @harrisp584
      @harrisp584 5 років тому +50

      One more time for the simpletons in the back!

    • @hottie286
      @hottie286 5 років тому +5

      We been knew

    • @elainenilsson5472
      @elainenilsson5472 5 років тому +8

      What's the difference?

    • @nielnielsen4822
      @nielnielsen4822 5 років тому +101

      @@elainenilsson5472
      sexualizing is too highlight aspects to increase lust. objectifying is to highlight aspects that take away empathy. they can and do at times overlap but as you can see there not the same.

    • @izzylandyt
      @izzylandyt 5 років тому +16

      And it’s not just men who do it 😉🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @GDKLockout
    @GDKLockout 5 років тому +583

    4 years later. Looking can cost you your job. That didnt age well.

    • @Courtcat1324
      @Courtcat1324 5 років тому +22

      GDKLockout well we all know who the person in the comments who doesn't know the difference between a glance and staring in someone's window! Keep it cute I guess

    • @hoominbeeing
      @hoominbeeing 5 років тому

      Courtney Warren .

    • @RichardChappell1
      @RichardChappell1 5 років тому +103

      @@Courtcat1324 - No. It's only a problem when the woman decides it's a problem. If it's a person she's interested in, it's just fine. If it's not, it's creepy. Same look - different people. The problem is hers.

    • @stormcorrosion176
      @stormcorrosion176 5 років тому +13

      Richard Chappell agreed. F* this b*ch

    • @izzylandyt
      @izzylandyt 5 років тому +27

      Richard Chappell women can be just as creepy if not worse around good looking dudes. Those thirst tweets are real 😂

  • @69voxbeetle
    @69voxbeetle 3 роки тому +31

    This lady is pure class.

  • @SauceyNoodle
    @SauceyNoodle 5 років тому +339

    Any woman: “it’s okay to look”
    Men: *Wolves by Kanye West starts playing*

    • @Competitive_Antagonist
      @Competitive_Antagonist 5 років тому +1

      That's the weirdest damn music video I've ever seen.

    • @supernoodles908
      @supernoodles908 5 років тому +4

      SIDO CHESTO

    • @doom-driveneap4569
      @doom-driveneap4569 5 років тому

      Saucey Noodle I literally played the song after reading this. 😂😂😂😂 perfect 👌

    • @puesbien
      @puesbien 5 років тому

      I appreciate this reference!

    • @tobinator1767
      @tobinator1767 3 роки тому

      @@Competitive_Antagonist have you seen the sledgehammer music video?

  • @miguelruiloba3565
    @miguelruiloba3565 5 років тому +100

    "Its okay to look"..........(Every straight man everywhere): Yes!!!! Finally!!!!

    • @Aglai76
      @Aglai76 5 років тому +5

      Goes on to say looking while having LITTERLLY any other thought but "wow look at that strong independent woman" is still a No No.
      (Because most of what she said, ISN'T "objectification")

  • @bullshark3771
    @bullshark3771 4 роки тому +175

    Guys do get looked at when they have pecs if they are muscular it’s honestly the same thing but it’s more acceptable

    • @Frankya92
      @Frankya92 4 роки тому +27

      BullShark it’s a double standard. It’s ok to look if you’re attractive

    • @Enigmatism415
      @Enigmatism415 4 роки тому +2

      @NonyaBusiness! Yes, the fear can still be there. You may not fear it, but others likely do.

    • @Enigmatism415
      @Enigmatism415 4 роки тому +3

      @NonyaBusiness! But the thing about 'feelings' is that they are 'valid' no matter what statistics show. A man could be afraid of another woman or man, bigger or smaller, etc, for any reason, and his fear would still demand respect. Even an invalid could carry a gun.

    • @chillychese
      @chillychese 4 роки тому +1

      @NonyaBusiness! I didn't know that all men could fight off an armed assailant

    • @JT-km6th
      @JT-km6th 4 роки тому +2

      @NonyaBusiness! that basically means even if you won't do anything, if the woman fears anything, action will be taken. That's like chaining a dog. Wonder how long that will last before guys get pissed.

  • @y.rg.s1510
    @y.rg.s1510 5 років тому +343

    Started looking before she started talking

  • @chrisx8902
    @chrisx8902 5 років тому +464

    And the moral is - don't interpret attention seeking behaviour as attention seeking behaviour.

    • @Dancemaker9
      @Dancemaker9 5 років тому +18

      Best comment!

    • @tarvoc746
      @tarvoc746 5 років тому +8

      I actually think that at least in a certain sense, that's a pretty good lesson.

    • @inthemirror192
      @inthemirror192 5 років тому +5

      Definitely best comment

    • @zerg9523
      @zerg9523 5 років тому +36

      Cathy Newman : So what your saying is, in 2019, not only does no mean no, but a maybe means no, and a yes can become a no if she changes her mind anytime at all after the fact...
      Men : yeah, we got it... feminism right?

    • @NicoSmets
      @NicoSmets 5 років тому +1

      Haha, that's one to remember!

  • @AutumnOnFire
    @AutumnOnFire 5 років тому +213

    It's okay to-
    *HARASSMENT SUIT, FILED.*

  • @tedmcfly
    @tedmcfly 4 роки тому +69

    I thought i was gonna learn something but I felt like I was back at square one by the end of the video. Conclusion: women don't understand what men find attractive.

    • @smidefix8147
      @smidefix8147 4 роки тому

      Yes they do, or do u mean that women dress nice just to impress other women?

    • @RuaTheRapoet
      @RuaTheRapoet 4 роки тому +2

      @@smidefix8147 The impression I get out of Alex's remark is that, believe it or not, we enjoy learning from something intelligent a woman says, regardless of her physical appearance.

  • @berndheiden7630
    @berndheiden7630 4 роки тому +10

    This is a highly intelligent woman with a beautiful body who has come to not only bear the inadequate interaction of most people (of both sexes) but is totally at ease with them and present and grounded in a Zen-like sense. Kudos!
    Thank you for the „Viertelstunde“ of letting me enjoy your presentation!

  • @geoffreyokrongly916
    @geoffreyokrongly916 4 роки тому +115

    I’m getting a strong sense of “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” from this talk. That’s disappointing.

  • @WiglyWorm
    @WiglyWorm 9 років тому +223

    Perhaps a better title would be "it's ok to be looked at".
    According to her, her opinions of herself all started to change when she began to interpret people's gazes (which as she said ARE BIOLOGICAL) as objectification and therefore objectified herself. That's the worst part. There's very little effect on your daily life if some stranger objectifies you. It's when it starts to get internalized that it's a problem. We need to make sure that our women and girls know that if they do perceive themselves be objectified... the problem is with the person doing the objectification, not with themselves.
    I'm not saying women don't get objectified. That would be a pretty stupid premise, but acceptance of oneself is a very important part of the equation that she very much glossed over.

    • @PeopleHealthTru
      @PeopleHealthTru 5 років тому +4

      Wow. Truth. You objectify yourself.

    • @jwmmitch
      @jwmmitch 5 років тому +13

      I think it goes both ways. People can treat themselves and/or others as objects.

    • @PeopleHealthTru
      @PeopleHealthTru 5 років тому +7

      @Clorox Tree Don't need a study. Men desire female beauty. If all had no clothes, there would be no competition for women to reveal more skin to gain advantage.

    • @atb8660
      @atb8660 5 років тому +16

      Women also objectify men, so it's no big deal

    • @N12Gautam
      @N12Gautam 5 років тому +15

      WiglyWorm she says the media objectifys women, but actually thier mothers can have an influence but they objectify themselves, for a quick buck or to get out of a traffic stop. Then once they objectify themselve they blame patriacy and men for all thier problems. They couldve easily worn pants and full shirt but insted to chose to want to get attention. Either they're naturally narcissists or they create narcism by becoming addicts to attention, either way stop blaming others and start to take responsibility for yourself which i presume what this ted talk is about. But the diagnosis of the blame is wrong so she ends up not taking responsibility and blame men for thier problems. Geez.

  • @ttystikkrocks1042
    @ttystikkrocks1042 5 років тому +38

    Women are encouraged to wear revealing clothes but don't want to be objectified. Men wear baggy clothes and DO want to be objectified. At least so goes the stereotype. In reality we're all human beings.

  • @hotrodray9884
    @hotrodray9884 5 років тому +174

    I respectfully disagree...
    I asked: What do women say when they buy revealing clothes? "I am buying this so nobody will look at me"....
    Be realistic. If they didnt want everyone to look they wouldnt wear provocative risque clothes.

    • @Kuk0san
      @Kuk0san 5 років тому +62

      "When there's a disparity between what a woman says and what she does, watch what she does."
      This is some solid advice I heard a while back, hasn't failed me since.

    • @guitareMTL
      @guitareMTL 5 років тому +12

      @@Kuk0san Man, this is so true!!

    • @FERNweh101
      @FERNweh101 5 років тому +3

      So why do they never admit this...a woman walks down the street in a police uniform...etc.....

    • @soccerandtrack10
      @soccerandtrack10 5 років тому

      yeah,i don't get it either.

    • @downsjmmyjones101
      @downsjmmyjones101 5 років тому +5

      This assumes that revealing clothes are *meant* to reveal. They have more than one function than just to reveal.

  • @arvidezdassad5015
    @arvidezdassad5015 5 років тому +213

    I am objectified when the lawn needs mowing. Wonderful talk, sent to my daughter, ty.

  • @HLsteppa
    @HLsteppa 4 роки тому +18

    Well that's 13:42 I will never get back. My radical suggestion...lets treat women like just like men. With all the expectations, accountability.

  • @douglasbarnes4035
    @douglasbarnes4035 4 роки тому +8

    My effective approach for dealing with the issue of offending people is to avoid people if at all possible. It’s really not worth the hassle these days.

  • @2Truth4Liberty
    @2Truth4Liberty 4 роки тому +85

    If I am looking at her pretty eyes, am I objectifying her?

  • @markprater1
    @markprater1 4 роки тому +23

    The female form is one of the most beautiful things on earth.
    Women need to understand that, and expect to be admired simply for their physical form at times.
    It IS possible to admire a woman's beauty respectfully.

    • @Lily-hd9cg
      @Lily-hd9cg 4 роки тому

      ❤️❤️❤️

    • @toodles1472
      @toodles1472 2 роки тому

      Yes don't keep staring at them just be subtle

  • @Jasonk1979
    @Jasonk1979 5 років тому +23

    Just always be respectful, I think is what she is trying to say.

  • @WYOYWebcast
    @WYOYWebcast 4 роки тому +4

    Listen; its really simple. Its OK to like what you like and be turned on by what turns you on; just make sure that you equally acknowledge and respect the person that has what you like. Don't be afraid to be honest while being respectful and it will all work out. Especially if the honesty and respect goes both ways...! :)

  • @iFixJunk
    @iFixJunk 4 роки тому +190

    I watched this whole thing on mute.

  • @zubinix
    @zubinix 4 роки тому +58

    The stereotypes are still better than those for being a short man.

  • @mikegruits2137
    @mikegruits2137 4 роки тому +8

    Not only is it ok to look, our want to look - and subsequent reaction, whether it be desire, arousal or excitement - is both natural and healthy.
    It would benefit our society as a whole to 1) understand this, and 2) not assume that one is objectifying or degrading another by this and this alone. Wait to believe that one is objectifying or degrading you until they have actually and outwardly done one of these two things, then watch the masses come together to stand against that toxic behavior.
    Until then, let's not assume that one has done either of these things by simply doing what they are programmed to do by nature.

  • @patrykbdg
    @patrykbdg 5 років тому +53

    I didn't expect to come during a TEDxxx talk and yet here we are.

    • @patrykbdg
      @patrykbdg 5 років тому +4

      @Wayne Wallace are you offering and is it extra?

    • @Jack-do5tq
      @Jack-do5tq 5 років тому +3

      You won the internet 👍

  • @VM0451
    @VM0451 5 років тому +88

    I have a feeling, judging from the comparitively low amount of likes on comments, that someone is removing them lol

    • @starfedright6362
      @starfedright6362 5 років тому +3

      Smart notice! The video was uploaded since 2014 and about such a video, one really has a lot to comment about it LOL
      I hope you can read this before it gets deleted too 🤔

    • @sakura-kai-
      @sakura-kai- 4 роки тому

      @@starfedright6362 I'm glad I have!

  • @tarp11z
    @tarp11z 4 роки тому +3

    A handful is more than enough, honestly. Not projecting an attitude of superiority because of one's beauty, priceless.

  • @rummy98
    @rummy98 4 роки тому +37

    If men stopped looking, cat-calling and paying any attention to women, they would be the first to cry foul.

    • @olegunnarsolskjaer337
      @olegunnarsolskjaer337 4 роки тому +20

      rummy98 There was a writer from The Guardian that would complain about the catcalls and attention from non desirable men in her 20s but suddenly when her 30s came and younger and hotter women took her place, she cried about being invisible

    • @rummy98
      @rummy98 4 роки тому +12

      @@olegunnarsolskjaer337 It's like they don't want the attention. They just want to know if they did want it, that it would be there lol.

    • @holidaytrout5174
      @holidaytrout5174 4 роки тому +3

      They already do

  • @frojoe2004
    @frojoe2004 5 років тому +120

    Why do we talk about this as if men aren't objectified as well?

    • @tarvoc746
      @tarvoc746 5 років тому +29

      Because she's a woman and thus can't necessarily relate to a man's experience of being objectified. But I would genuinely be interested in reading a text on objectification from another man's perspective. I know it happens to men as well (I've been objectified both by women and by other men), but men rarely talk about it for some reason.

    • @christianrichardson8956
      @christianrichardson8956 5 років тому +35

      @@tarvoc746 because we are taught to not complain

    • @tarvoc746
      @tarvoc746 5 років тому +7

      @@christianrichardson8956 Yes, but then so are women.

    • @Utrechtborn
      @Utrechtborn 5 років тому +3

      Tarvoc go listen to Patrice O’Neal

    • @ras_krystafari3333
      @ras_krystafari3333 5 років тому +2

      She has nothing else going obviously

  • @gonnahavemesomefun
    @gonnahavemesomefun 5 років тому +178

    Meh could have been so much more. I feel like there wasn’t much content or much of a true conclusion in this.

    • @2bitmarketanarchist337
      @2bitmarketanarchist337 5 років тому +11

      That was about my thought. She could've said as much as she did with about a 1/4 of the effort. "Women are people too, treat them as such".

    • @yardmasterswealtheducation8424
      @yardmasterswealtheducation8424 5 років тому +9

      Your ideas are logical. Unfortunately, most people are not. Her presentation is geared for a larger audience. A less sophisticated audience. Her presentation was excellent in light of that, eh?

    • @2bitmarketanarchist337
      @2bitmarketanarchist337 5 років тому +2

      @@yardmasterswealtheducation8424 I enjoyed it certainly and I think I mostly agree with the point that I *think* she's making.

    • @yardmasterswealtheducation8424
      @yardmasterswealtheducation8424 5 років тому +2

      @@2bitmarketanarchist337 Not every "point" someone makes is a "massively significant" point in general. And, even those that are, are only massively significant to people at a particular point in their lives. Also, some awesome points are totally unnecessary to some at various stages of their life.
      Hey, nice to meet you, by the way!

    • @seregruin
      @seregruin 5 років тому +2

      @@yardmasterswealtheducation8424 well, they aren't even good points. The talk is called "it's ok to look", yet the slide at the end says it's not. But before she recognizes, it's natural to want to look.
      Maybe it would've been more helpful to talk about what behavior exactly is troubling or offensive to most people and what is not.
      Many people seem to be confused about this nowadays.

  • @illumi9044
    @illumi9044 5 років тому +65

    When she said the yoga position was "the plow" I lost it

    • @kungfuhusler
      @kungfuhusler 5 років тому +5

      A person of culture right here!

    • @ras_krystafari3333
      @ras_krystafari3333 5 років тому

      She has nothing but shock factor its sad

    • @waterdawg08
      @waterdawg08 4 роки тому

      Totally lost it. 😂😂

    • @firew0rrior
      @firew0rrior 4 роки тому +4

      She was right. That is the plow position...

    • @Qfungi
      @Qfungi 4 роки тому +4

      10/10 would plow

  • @rhunefader9428
    @rhunefader9428 5 років тому +20

    Wrong title. Should have been "How to contradict yourself as many times as possible in 13 minutes and 42 seconds"

    • @tarvoc746
      @tarvoc746 5 років тому +2

      Yeah, I agree that she comes across as self-contradicting. More specifically, I think she comes across as confused. Then again, so am I.

  • @slipagent6
    @slipagent6 5 років тому +805

    Im going to wear a speedo everywhere then say things like “my eyes are up here ladies!!..”

    • @LightningStrikes66
      @LightningStrikes66 5 років тому +15

      slipagent6 😂😂😂

    • @fallenangel9614
      @fallenangel9614 5 років тому +9

      slipagent6 👏 👏👏👏

    • @thegreatbamboozler4837
      @thegreatbamboozler4837 5 років тому +24

      let us know how that works out for ya!

    • @downsjmmyjones101
      @downsjmmyjones101 5 років тому +31

      That's not entirely what she's arguing for. You can look but not think about someone differently because of it. If someone assumes something about you because of it then yeah, feel free to correct them.

    • @thegreatbamboozler4837
      @thegreatbamboozler4837 5 років тому +108

      @@downsjmmyjones101 forgive me for asking but isn't that WHY we dress differently all the time? To be thought about differently? For example, what I wear to a job interview (a first meeting) is looking to yield a different response than what I wear to a first date (another first meeting). I think the speaker seems to miss a fundamental truth of life..you can't control what people think about you, but you CAN influence it. If she WERE truly comfortable with herself the way she says she is then she wouldn't be giving a TED Talk about everyone else changing THEIR opinion.

  • @pheenix42
    @pheenix42 4 роки тому +14

    We've a long way to go, sister. You wouldn't believe some of the idiocy I've heard coming from my male co-workers on just this subject. Myself, as one of the Y-chromosome challenged, the best thing I can do is to admire no matter what she looks like. I had an interesting talk with a female friend regarding body shape once; I had complimented her on her athletic physique and how I thought she had been blessed with it--but, she mentioned that dating had been hard for her because of her seeming lack of curves to attract male interest. That was eye-opening for me.

    • @markfahey3921
      @markfahey3921 2 роки тому +1

      An athletic figure can be very beautiful

  • @conscious_being
    @conscious_being 5 років тому +111

    Is it "objectification" to look at a baby and think it is cute?
    Every sensory input triggers some response encoded by evolution. Men staring desirously at women with features evolutionarily encoded as fertility markers or as success markers in attracting mates and other women looking at them with envy are evolutionary triggers, not "objectification". Culture can help prevent people from _acting_ on those evolutionary impulses or being stuck in them, but cannot remove the impulses themselves.
    Sure, it can be difficult being at the receiving end of such unwanted attention, but it is no more difficult than any other handicap.
    As for stereotyping people from their appearance, it is again an evolutionary response. No one objects to stereotypes when it is to their advantage/liking, but object to it when it is not. Few fall back to using stereotypes when they have more information about the person. Let them have the information, if you can. If you can't, live with the handicap, even though the rest see it as an advantage and not a handicap.
    The rest of the world doesn't exist to make you feel good about yourself. You may begin with that realisation before starting to solve "problems".

    • @soccerandtrack10
      @soccerandtrack10 5 років тому

      the inquisition is keeping an eye on you...

    • @downsjmmyjones101
      @downsjmmyjones101 5 років тому +1

      Just because you have an urge to do something doesn't mean should indulge it.

    • @conscious_being
      @conscious_being 5 років тому +14

      @@downsjmmyjones101 Did I say anything contrary to what you said?

    • @downsjmmyjones101
      @downsjmmyjones101 5 років тому

      @@conscious_being You said it is an evolutionary response to stereotype. A contentious position surely but even if granted truthfulness for the sake of argument, it still doesn't mean you should actively stereotype people.

    • @conscious_being
      @conscious_being 5 років тому +15

      @@downsjmmyjones101 I didn't say anyone _should_ stereotype, only that anyone with a functioning brain _expects_ stereotyping to be widely prevalent as a first response, because it is an revolutionary response that was useful. Culture can train people to rein in evolutionary impulses, but cannot remove them.

  • @drba77
    @drba77 5 років тому +124

    13 minutes of talk and 0 content

    • @alfazefirus
      @alfazefirus 5 років тому +32

      Yeah but she has gorgeous tits so that's OK.

    • @TStephens21274
      @TStephens21274 5 років тому +2

      @@alfazefirus 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂

    • @tarvoc746
      @tarvoc746 5 років тому

      @@alfazefirus lol, I wonder if that's the *actual* point of this video.

    • @alfazefirus
      @alfazefirus 5 років тому +1

      @@tarvoc746 not sure, after the first 20 sec I muted it... Do you think we are objectifying her by any chance?

    • @tarvoc746
      @tarvoc746 5 років тому

      @@alfazefirus That depends. Why did you continue to watch in the first place?

  • @Georg1492
    @Georg1492 4 роки тому +52

    She reminds me of Joan Holloway Harris (Christina Hendricks) in Mad Men. She even used the same quote.

    • @thefastingnomad
      @thefastingnomad 4 роки тому +1

      Georg1492 I just thought the same thing

    • @thepeter3116
      @thepeter3116 4 роки тому

      It's the same vocal delivery and lisp

  • @rickquick8977
    @rickquick8977 5 років тому +60

    Why do so many people think that sociology can overcome biology? How is a person supposed to know when someone IS looking for that kind of attention when we are told all the non verbal ques don't mean anything? Since typically women don't aggressive pursue men we are just left to guess in an increasingly hostile environment toward men. Then we wonder why birth rates are dropping.

    • @kevinmiller472
      @kevinmiller472 5 років тому +8

      If you perceive indications that they may be interested in you, you can ask them if they are interested in you. In other words, treat them like a person, and don't treat them as an object.

    • @rickquick8977
      @rickquick8977 5 років тому +4

      @@kevinmiller472 but perceptions are subjective. One person can see an action or jestur completely different than another. I really comes down to interpretation which has a better than average chance of being wrong.

    • @downsjmmyjones101
      @downsjmmyjones101 5 років тому

      @@rickquick8977 What did his reaponse have to do with gestures? It looks like you're arguing against yourself since you believe wearing of certain clothes has a deep social meaning.

    • @DininDalael
      @DininDalael 5 років тому +1

      So what's your favorite incel site?

    • @tarvoc746
      @tarvoc746 5 років тому

      @Mark Blokland Yeah, it absolutely is.
      Fueling the creation of a hostile climate between the genders, however, is not a good thing - no matter in which direction. (And yes, I do realize that any genuine struggle for emancipation also always requires confrontation, but we also mustn't forget the dialectics involved with that, and how quickly a genuine struggle for emancipation can flip to becoming oppressive itself.)

  • @Bobcat665
    @Bobcat665 5 років тому +18

    It's simple: If you're not selling, don't advertise!

  • @devinlauwerier404
    @devinlauwerier404 5 років тому +43

    She did this Ted Talk for the Clout.

  • @pillowbugg
    @pillowbugg 5 років тому +25

    Yes, and if I'm wearing a uniform...I don't want to be assumed I am a solider...or a cop...or a chef...

    • @izzylandyt
      @izzylandyt 5 років тому +2

      pillowbugg Dave Chappelle 😂

  • @ananddesai4050
    @ananddesai4050 3 роки тому +9

    Don’t flaunt,don’t conceal,don’t be proud,don’t be shy,just be natural,it’s there,it’s gift of nature,be comfortable,

  • @Tonycaveman
    @Tonycaveman 4 роки тому +21

    I remember when TED talks were a respected medium with quality speakers and quality content.

    • @xengogamedev4282
      @xengogamedev4282 4 роки тому +3

      Yes. It seems thar they are only seeking attention lately

    • @noblefoul
      @noblefoul 4 роки тому +3

      This ted talk from 5 years ago

    • @thicc3yrold
      @thicc3yrold 4 роки тому +2

      5yr old vid bud 😬

    • @Tonycaveman
      @Tonycaveman 4 роки тому

      @@thicc3yrold Are the new ones any better? Seems like they've only gone downhill.

  • @smitty_jaeger
    @smitty_jaeger 4 роки тому +59

    Idk there's just something really contradictory about wearing the revealing clothing of today's fashion & getting offended by the attention it draws. Because that is the primal point of such outfits, it's to gravitate eyes to your flaunted beauty.
    I understand the concept trying to be pushed about how people should shift their view about women's beauty & or bodies.
    But I think there is very much so a reason a woman chooses to show her body in such a way that it would get 2nd looks & turn heads. It seems like it boils down to whether they accept/respect the attention from an individual They find attractive.

    • @funch357
      @funch357 2 роки тому +2

      Smitty, that’s the sort of thinking that, if taken too far, leads down a slippery slope that, at worst, forces women to wear hijabs & burqas so they don’t “tantalize” men. It also assumes men are so weak that they can’t control their own bad behavior; therefore it’s women’s responsibility to not “set men off”. So a man brave enough to endure all sorts of physical pain, can’t prevent himself from catcalling or otherwise harassing a woman, no matter how she’s dressed? That’s hard to believe.

    • @timothybuckley7317
      @timothybuckley7317 2 роки тому

      So don't take the thinking too far; problem solved. There is validity to it so it shouldn't be ignored.

    • @kkdias9924
      @kkdias9924 2 роки тому

      @@funch357 Youre taking things to the extreme, While yes a woman should not be forced to wear a hijab or burqa there is a certain level of decency that should be mantained by women as well, and the men must also have control over their eyes so as not to fall in sin or allow it to ruminate in the mind, its a 2-way street, if she actually wants to solve the problem rather than blaming it on men and that they havbe to not look youre doing the same as what some men say that rapes take place only cause of women,

  • @mirawenya
    @mirawenya 5 років тому +23

    It’s ok to look, but don’t stare. There’s a difference. Keep it short.

    • @Garhunt05
      @Garhunt05 5 років тому +1

      That's what I've been saying.

    • @maddogmarc
      @maddogmarc 4 роки тому +2

      Sneak a peek, save it in the spank bank, move on.

    • @sqweeps.03
      @sqweeps.03 2 роки тому

      @@maddogmarc well said

    • @toodles1472
      @toodles1472 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah like just be subtle don't keep staring at it all the time like a creep

  • @redman2751
    @redman2751 5 років тому +4

    Her end statement is total BS. If a woman is wearing a tight sweater, most of the time she wants to be looked at. She wants to look good. What’s she wearing it for herself. Maybe, but by wanting herself to feel good because people are looking at her. Men do it too. Men dress certain ways to be looked at. If they workout they show it off. If they are a business man with some money they wear a nice suit and want to show it.

  • @mrityunjoybhowmick3889
    @mrityunjoybhowmick3889 4 роки тому +9

    She is amazing. It completely changed my perspective of viewing women. No other videos ever did that.

  • @smithwesson373
    @smithwesson373 4 роки тому +2

    Best Tedx-talk ever! But my soundsetting was on mute, anyone know what she was talking about?

  • @vapeking466
    @vapeking466 5 років тому +67

    Men and babies love tatas I see nothing wrong with it. Besides if she is showing clevage then she knows what she is doing!

  • @bikebudha01
    @bikebudha01 5 років тому +75

    Total cop out, should have done the whole speech topless...

  • @lackoftalls1854
    @lackoftalls1854 5 років тому +11

    I just love the comment section

  • @Spacebirdy
    @Spacebirdy 4 роки тому +2

    It's crazy just how much of a world, an entire book, that one person can be.

  • @smilertoo
    @smilertoo 5 років тому +63

    There's a difference between appreciation and objectification.

    • @ttystikkrocks1042
      @ttystikkrocks1042 5 років тому +4

      Absolutely! I think she left that door open. Appreciating her appearance in the context of all she is as a person is all she's asking for.

    • @tarvoc746
      @tarvoc746 5 років тому +5

      @@ttystikkrocks1042 Are human minds self-aware enough to always make that distinction correctly though?

    • @hottie286
      @hottie286 5 років тому +2

      There’s a difference between glancing and staring

    • @joeyexos6567
      @joeyexos6567 5 років тому +1

      But not much

    • @BigTeo55
      @BigTeo55 5 років тому +2

      So in other words, its alot safer to appreciate the veiw from the back then the front.

  • @Inteli9
    @Inteli9 5 років тому +1

    My best hypothesis of what causes objectification is related to perceptual filters: we look to people through lenses based on concepts, like "mother" or "father", "brother", "wife" or "husband", "dwarf", "friend". It seems some people don't look at others with the lenses of "person" ou "human being". Try to change behavior without changing the primary filters might simply not work.
    Changing one single concept that filters perception can have a huge impact. For example, instead of "crisis", see an "oportunity".

  • @juanvaldez1347
    @juanvaldez1347 5 років тому +18

    If feminism stopped yelling at me about how much I am hated or how I’m the problem, and started talking to me more like this, a human being, I wouldn’t feel like I am compromising my dignity by supporting it.

    • @Lily-hd9cg
      @Lily-hd9cg 4 роки тому +1

      I know you said this 7 months ago but yeah I agree. I don’t think you’re the problem. I’m sorry that people made you feel that way.

  • @j.james.s.2412
    @j.james.s.2412 Рік тому +1

    "Be the change you wish to see in the world" - Ghandi
    Thank you.

  • @joeturner1597
    @joeturner1597 5 років тому +8

    In about 1987, I was a Guard (Conductor) on an Aberdeen to Glasgow train. A woman was complaining loudly & rudely about another woman breastfeeding. I removed her from the train at Stirling, the complainer not the mother. She didn't want to leave but then again, she didn't want to leave her luggage on the platform either.

  • @boboloko
    @boboloko 5 років тому +93

    Wait... you have herniated disks in your neck and you do the plow? Bad idea.

    • @ruthie8334
      @ruthie8334 5 років тому +6

      My question is how she has all those issues and hasn't had the reduction yet? DDD is in no way worth all that pain.

    • @boboloko
      @boboloko 5 років тому +1

      @@ruthie8334 I think it might be a pretty risky procedure.

    • @Plethorality
      @Plethorality 5 років тому +9

      @@ruthie8334 I am GG and never had pain. Small frame, too. Maybe its the posture?

    • @jimmyfreeman5714
      @jimmyfreeman5714 5 років тому

      Steamroller.

    • @elee9056
      @elee9056 5 років тому

      Bekah Hoffman she did

  • @scottdetter
    @scottdetter 5 років тому +40

    It's a double edged sword. There are still many women that dress indeed, to be objectified.

    • @brandongillett2616
      @brandongillett2616 5 років тому +5

      If it is HER CHOICE to be "objectified" then she isn't really being objectified, now is she?

    • @FERNweh101
      @FERNweh101 5 років тому

      But...girly-girly...it's these AWFUL men

    • @downsjmmyjones101
      @downsjmmyjones101 5 років тому +1

      Interesting question. Objectification is like assault. Some people want you to assault them but since it's a violation of most people's boundaries, you're gonna have to get permission first.

    • @scottdetter
      @scottdetter 5 років тому +4

      James Downs Assault is like assault. Objectification is a perspective, whether from an individual that wants it, or another who perceives it that way. It's not necessarily a good thing. Words are specific, not mailable.

    • @downsjmmyjones101
      @downsjmmyjones101 5 років тому

      @@scottdetter Just like assault, objectification can be unwanted and cause harm.

  • @bradk8694
    @bradk8694 4 роки тому +20

    It's not objectifying if I subjectively think she's got a great body.

    • @kintokisa
      @kintokisa 4 роки тому

      Brad K won't subjectively thinking about her, or her looks, makes her an object tho...?

    • @bradk8694
      @bradk8694 4 роки тому +6

      @@kintokisa
      So far 7 of 8 people got the joke. Where do you think you are in those numbers?

    • @rikk319
      @rikk319 4 роки тому +1

      I subjectively was bored by your joke. I'll go back to objectively judging her body now.

  • @scottsommer9843
    @scottsommer9843 4 роки тому +21

    Tell this to strippers, twitter thots, instagram thots, and even twitch thots who purposely objectify themselves to gain money.

    • @scottsommer9843
      @scottsommer9843 4 роки тому

      @@clancyoneill Sad that a group of people who take advantage of others hate it when people take advantage of them. That's the most disturbing part.
      Women hate on other beautiful women only to blame it on men.

    • @RegularGuyism
      @RegularGuyism 4 роки тому

      @@scottsommer9843 They took advantage of simps. I see no problem, every woman should milk a simp's funds dry.

    • @scottsommer9843
      @scottsommer9843 4 роки тому

      @@RegularGuyism
      That's fine. The problem is you can't be mad at objectifying women AND profit from it at the same time.

  • @kenpanderz672
    @kenpanderz672 2 роки тому +2

    basically, educate ourselves in the sociology and psychology of modern humanity and view issues like these through that more educated lens. stupidity and ignorance are major factors in the mistreatment of not just women, but everyone. its not a sin to look, its a sin to objectify more than you have to.

  • @nathanjames3348
    @nathanjames3348 4 роки тому +4

    I may be wrong, but I feel that people mostly objectify themselves without realising then call it empowerment. We all understand that attraction exists and it is different for everyone, but we are all so desperate to be attractive that we sell ourselves. It creates such a shallow society and it's scary.

  • @enoasic1072
    @enoasic1072 5 років тому +8

    I feel like it is a big assumption that men objectify women as much as women feel they do. Also I wish I was being objectified more often. Also people are objects, they're just objects who take themselves too seriously

    • @tarvoc746
      @tarvoc746 5 років тому +1

      People are subjects. In fact, the words "people" and "subjects" are synonyms.

    • @enoasic1072
      @enoasic1072 5 років тому

      @@tarvoc746 subject is just a way to describe a kind of object

    • @tarvoc746
      @tarvoc746 5 років тому

      @@enoasic1072 Explain your position.

    • @lonewaer
      @lonewaer 5 років тому +1

      @@tarvoc746 Well "subject" is a subset of "object". If we're talking about chairs, "chair" is an object ; if we're talking about a specific chair, the chair is the subject.

    • @tarvoc746
      @tarvoc746 5 років тому

      @@lonewaer That isn't even the correct definition of "subject" in the *grammatical* sense of the term.

  • @mikeaninger7388
    @mikeaninger7388 4 роки тому +5

    Modern Feminism: the undisputed champion of the double standard.

  • @cedricreese15
    @cedricreese15 4 роки тому +3

    She got my attention. She'll make a great teacher or professor, everyone would sign up for her class..

    • @JukesMcGee
      @JukesMcGee 4 роки тому +1

      Ced Reese yeah she would be a great motorboat instructor

    • @cedricreese15
      @cedricreese15 4 роки тому

      @@JukesMcGee We was tough growing up not to stare BUT, You can't & some women get mad , some like it. Me I appreciate Lil o tiggies & BIG O TIGGIES. AT the end of tha lil o tiggies kool with me. Lol

  • @fluxmasterfix
    @fluxmasterfix 5 років тому +5

    Nice observations, but the finale is not only lacking real content or conclusion, but even contradicts the title of the discussion.

  • @r.s.marcus3043
    @r.s.marcus3043 5 років тому +1

    Great shift in tone during this talk. Hopefully we can all start seeing souls and hearts. Humanity has far to come.

  • @Dr.Know_4U
    @Dr.Know_4U 5 років тому +25

    Modern women try to make everything so complicated that it's just not worth sorting out.

  • @roastedmarhmallow
    @roastedmarhmallow 5 років тому +4

    I don’t think the title accurately reflects her message. ‘It’s OK to look’ yet she concludes with ‘stop staring, start talking’. Perhaps a more rounded message would be ‘it’s OK to look, but be aware of the unconscious human instinct to objectify and try to consciously resist.’?

    • @tarvoc746
      @tarvoc746 5 років тому

      How can you be aware of something unconscious?

    • @roastedmarhmallow
      @roastedmarhmallow 5 років тому

      Tarvoc well, ‘be aware’ in the sense of paying attention to it. Breathing and blinking is normally done unconsciously, but you can be aware you’re doing it.

  • @alexanderjimenez1698
    @alexanderjimenez1698 5 років тому +30

    Her point of views changed when she took feminism as a class.
    Lady is so privledged to have people look at her..

  • @thekaxmax
    @thekaxmax 3 роки тому

    So many people in this thread /seriously/ need to rewatch this but with their eyes closed so they can /listen/ to it.

  • @matthewmiller3745
    @matthewmiller3745 5 років тому +43

    Reading these comments, I really feel like we didn't all watch the same video

    • @annadstar777
      @annadstar777 4 роки тому

      Matthew Miller is it normally the case? We things not as they are but as we are...

  • @himanshugarg6062
    @himanshugarg6062 5 років тому +2

    Can't look.. Can't stop.. Help me..!!
    Might get fired soon.. I start watching this on my phone every time someone brings up an Excel spreadsheet in a meeting..
    My therapist said this is an exemplary case of addiction.. I had booked a session with him for every Thursday.. In our last session he'd said he was gonna watch the video for context.. He has had to cancel all 3 sessions since due to personal exigencies..

  • @cryora
    @cryora 5 років тому +33

    So she starts off with saying it's okay to look, then she says it's not okay to look because it's objectifying, and then she tells everyone to have one last look and tells them it's okay. That is how feminists like to toy with you and the lack of consistent morals.

    • @FreeminderXIII
      @FreeminderXIII 5 років тому +6

      I think what she meant is that, it's ok to look but don't objectify or/and stereotype, also don't be a creep ( the last one from me )

    • @downsjmmyjones101
      @downsjmmyjones101 5 років тому

      @Clorox Tree And she is trying to correct the inacxurate conclusions made by those registrations.

    • @tarvoc746
      @tarvoc746 5 років тому

      @Donald Piniach That's actually a very good point.

    • @juanvaldez1347
      @juanvaldez1347 5 років тому

      Clorox Tree yet it is the man’s fault and he should be punished for how she dresses.

    • @juanvaldez1347
      @juanvaldez1347 5 років тому

      J G yes, liberal usage of libtard and conservetard is the academically proven way to discuss with respect, help others understand, and not succumb to stereotypes of assumed political affiliation. The logic and compassion has forced me to swap from a conservetard to a libtard. There is no other choice.

  • @johnnyrey9551
    @johnnyrey9551 5 років тому +1

    Truth..
    I don’t want to look , it is a natural urge a compulsion that is engrained in me since time immemorial
    I get her point
    It is never in me to make another human being uncomfortable in any way
    Perhaps it is time to give some thought to the full message the speaker is presenting here
    I will do my part

  • @chavruta2000
    @chavruta2000 5 років тому +39

    Ted has really deteriorated.

  • @nextgenfootball69420
    @nextgenfootball69420 4 роки тому +9

    I think it's obvious that women who wear revealing clothes are confident of their bodies and like flaunting it to others as well, there can't be a girl who wears such clothes yet has a problem with guys staring at her body parts, it just doesn't make sense that she would show it in the first place if it wasn't meant to be looked at.

  • @JimmySee
    @JimmySee 5 років тому +54

    This lady is robophobic. Objectifying robots is not okay.

    • @izzylandyt
      @izzylandyt 5 років тому +2

      Jimmy See. It’s botism 😂

    • @forrareoccasions4246
      @forrareoccasions4246 4 роки тому

      IzzyLand Beyond 👨🏾‍💻💡🌟🌍 that comment was botistic tbh

  • @ep1phany62
    @ep1phany62 5 років тому +14

    Is it ok to be physically attracted to someone anymore? Or is that objectifying?
    Someone just make a decision. I don’t care who. I just want a yes or no.

    • @alexkelley5180
      @alexkelley5180 5 років тому +1

      ep1phany62 I think you missed the point. No one is saying you can’t be physically attracted to women

    • @Notski
      @Notski 5 років тому

      "Is iT oK To bE pHySiCallY attraCteD to soMeoNe??!?"
      Did you really not watch the video before commenting that

  • @thecontagiouscajun4795
    @thecontagiouscajun4795 4 роки тому +4

    I'll never forget this talk. What was it about?

  • @kylemedeiros6907
    @kylemedeiros6907 5 років тому +13

    Im just glad i have the ability to switch to a better video.

  • @johnnykruger5212
    @johnnykruger5212 5 років тому +7

    What happens when you pass a woman while walking on the streets and you turn your head to look back at her but she catches you looking? Busted!

    • @m.m9769
      @m.m9769 5 років тому

      Might also wonder why she was looking 😋

  • @LightningStrikes66
    @LightningStrikes66 5 років тому +15

    People who get too much attention should hang out with people who get No attention and see who has it worse 😩

    • @soccerandtrack10
      @soccerandtrack10 5 років тому +1

      rich people are too buzy trying to get reactions out of you to even care about your words much less think of you as human or even alive for all they care,
      MINUS ELON MUSK!!!!!!!!!,unless hes an actor too.