Tony entered Witless Protection and became an SEC compliance officer for Hewlett Packard; and Jill became a famous Norwegian forest cat breeder. Their new life in the states was a refreshing change
These two are pioneers for the many more who live beyond their means these days though not always through their own fault. It would be interesting to have seen how they got on through the 70s to today.
I’ve always appreciated how well my parents managed within their means but now I admire them even more. At the same time when these two were living their extravagant lifestyle and spiralling into debt my parents were supporting 4 children on what I imagine was around half the amount these two were earning (as neither of my parents were professionals). They worked incredibly hard and we never wasted a single penny. My mum worked in the fields picking fruit (and she was able to take me with her). Yes ‘times were tough’ as they say, I knew we were poor compared to other children I went to school with (and I was envious) but we also had wonderful evenings as a family playing games and laughing together. That’s priceless. I’m thankful that because of their sacrifices they were able to enjoy many years of retirement and happiness in Brittany and helped set me and my sisters on a better path.
We bemoan the BBC many times for all sorts of valid reasons, but they’ve always made wonderful documentaries. A snapshot of a bygone age that I remember very clearly as a child is really captivating. Particularly in how strongly a once Great Britain contrasts against social, environment, political and cultural mess of today. Only thing great today is the archive quality of this documentary 😊
@@ColtraneTaylorThe Conservatives are about to be trounced because so many non “conservative Brits” also don’t think there’s much great about today’s Britain.
@@phillipecook3227 yeah there’s nothing that political parties have done in the last few years that could possibly damage the standard of living of the average person. So why bring ‘party politics’ into it. I like to make whatever reactionary decisions at the ballot box I want. And I should not have to think about any of the consequences.
We don't know how to manage our money but we would like to open our own business. If they were interviewing for a business loan from a bank they would be turned down. BBC Archive is one of the most entertaining and educational channels to watch on YT.
Google turns up the obituary of a Tony Whitfield (1940-2022) who was married to a Jill Whitfield. If it's the same bloke he ended up moving to New Zealand and starting a business.
@BigAL0074 And that's Earls Court - cheapest one bed studio in that area is 3 times the amount. However, your average teacher in London with a few yrs under their belt would be taking home a lot more than £1300 a month nowadays.
JohnDoe Agreed. His attitude is bog basic though its a combination of consumption and victim hood. Like you said his attitude to the lender was most bizzare
That interview was horrifying, but at the same time illuminating. The whole financial services industry depends on people like them. Their side hustle of writing to rich people to ask for money reminded me that the periodical "Truth" used to publish a "Cautionary List" of undeserving people who were in the habit of sending begging letters. The list included many clergymen and also the late Dr Crippen.
" The whole financial services industry depends on people like them." - 100% spot on. There's plenty of these suckers around, invest in banking shares and earn from their idiocy and lack of discipline, they might as be useful for something! ha ha!
There have always been people who think like this. "The world owes me, I'm supposed to have everything." With today's quick semination of such idiocy, you just see it much more frequently than you used to.
I heard that not long after the programme aired Tony won over £100,000 on the football pools. He told Jill that he wanted their name in the papers, so everyone would know how rich they were. “But Tony, darling, what about all the begging letters?” asked Jill. “Oh, don’t worry darling, we’ll still keep on sending them!“
My granny bucked the trend back in the day, She bought her white formica 26" colour TV outright, but she was running a Small hotel in Torquay. The Luxury TV was a business expense to get the tourists in. As the other hotels had blsck and white. Just a Pity she prefferd nylon bed sheets (horrible nights sleep) as easier to boil wash daily.
I would love an update on those two to see if this cruel,cruel world has given them everything they think they think they should have , or if it continues to " persecute" them Heartbreaking....
That was probably the saddest part. They didn't actually seem very happy even though they were "living the dream", they ust looked stressed and worried.
Amazing watching two 1968 films back-to-back; this one versus the compulsory purchase orders in Oldham wrecking family homes and businesses. Different worlds.
Interesting that he is a 'schoolteacher' (apparently), but has no qualms about appearing on national TV openly spouting his idiocy. Nowadays he'd be sacked within a week for one dodgy post on social media.
Drawn a bit of a blank on this pair. All I can find is that they lived in Earls Court, Tony was 25 when this was filmed, went to Liverpool Uni and taught at a Girl's Comp school in Southwark.
The racecourse looks like Ascot. A £10 spend for the day! Would cost well over £100 today just for entry for the pair especially if it was the Royal meeting. A couple of pieces of chicken and chips would cost over £20.
@@joelehane1 As i said, it will be well over £100 but it depends on which enclosure. One can purchase tickets today for Tuesday in the Windsor Enclosure for £49 each or in the Queen Anne for £90 each.
Epsom rather than Ascot I think, and possibly free on the inside (you can see the stands are on the other side of the course). Probably the day before Sir Ivor won the Derby, the week before this episode of Man Alive was shown.
Possibly right, i thought at first glance it was Ascot, and I've been to both tracks, but I am not going to spend too much time researching it.@ramruma6330
It's amazing how cheap everything was back then and they still spend above their income. What is so interesting is that they don't actually know what they are spending their money on. They are so irresponsible - I would not want to employ these sorts of people. "We resent people who have money too" - what a messed up character! I have kept track of every penny I have spent for the past 17 years using Microsoft Money and I am still surprised at how people don't know what they are spending money on.
A household income of 2k in 1968 per CPI figures is circa 30k in today's money as of time of this comment. So a pair doing 40 hours per week on minimum wage these days would make 40k before tax. Though of course, the cost of housing has gone up a fair bit more than CPI would indicate.
Twits, I wonder how it ended up, lucky for them, high inflation was just around the corner, and if they stopped digging the hole, the debt would diminished rapidly
To be fair, he is punching a bit with Jill. She seems quite nice and pretty, but he seems very sour and chippy. I reckon that in 1974 Jill found a well-endowed 1970's moustachioed He-Man with chest hair, flowing locks and a big gold medallion, while he was left snivelling in a damp flat heated by one candle, moaning about being poor and jealous, and slurping cold Bovril out of an empty Fray Bentos pie tin.
£20 a week as a teacher. Today he'd be on around £900 a week based on the mid-range of the teachers' pay scale for inner London that goes from £37k to £57k pa.
A 1 room flat in the centre London, £8 a week! I think it's more like £500 a week now, if not more. Doing some math, in 1968 the average teachers salary was around £1600 PA, in London now, it's around £37000 That's roughly 23 times more. If we take that £8 a week and multiply it by 23, that's £184 pounds. It's therefore almost 3 times more expensive to rent in central London now, than it was in 1968. And this video shows how people struggled back then - to us looking back, it feels a whole lot better than where we've got to, doesn't it?
I understand that it seems like it should make a difference but it doesn’t. Currency was decimalised while keeping the value of the pound the same. We are indeed three times poorer in this regard (housing)
@@Loupdelou-ly1ve Haha! It would be interesting to find out. ( Who knows... maybe they've changed over the years and are embarrassed by how they behaved in the past).
In the phone book. It contained addresses and phone numbers. Everyone was in there, including rich and famous people. Marilyn Monroe's personal phone number was available to everyone in the 1950s when she was famous. You can see how disciplined most people were at that time from the fact that she was happy to have her phone number available to tens of millions of fans without being afraid of being pestered all the time. I can see how a lot of people today would find what I've just written difficult to believe, because people today wouldn't have the same discipline in not pestering their favourite celebrities.
tbh I have no idea what blah blah blah an amount of money meant back in 1968. I'm too young! I just know I've never been in debt just to keep up with the neighbours in some meaningless tit for tat competition. And ffs they actually wrote begging....sorry, "loan" letters to people from "Who's Who"????? 🙄
Living beyond ones means, just to keep up with a certain upper-class strata of life, is not a formula for a long and happy life.... And being a good wife, she is doing what she can for her husband, but one can imagine that she would like to have a family, and so the family should Focus on what they need not what he needs....
I wonder if the man in this video has watched it recently and thought how insufferable and smug he sounded, as though those being fiscally prudent were just suffering from a lack of imagination or some such failing.
He’s off his rocker.
so 9 minutes of a bloke tellng me how he deserves what he can't afford.
No ppl like this will never have enough
BBC - your audience has spoken - we need a follow-up.
But please put it in the context of man-made climate change
My guess is he’s bald as a coot
@@stephfoxwell4620 and women's resilience in the face of it.
Tony entered Witless Protection and became an SEC compliance officer for Hewlett Packard; and Jill became a famous Norwegian forest cat breeder. Their new life in the states was a refreshing change
@@Venmaylove Witless Protection LOL I love it.
These two are pioneers for the many more who live beyond their means these days though not always through their own fault. It would be interesting to have seen how they got on through the 70s to today.
I agree - you always want a follow up.. and seldom get it 😞
how can it not be their fault ? At least she isn't asking who is going to pay for the children they've made.
Keeping up with the Joneses - a miserable and unfulfilling endeavour - trying to fill an empty void.
Don't be judgmental.
..... Now keeping up with the Kardashian's .
...voids are usually empty, so there's that...
I’ve always appreciated how well my parents managed within their means but now I admire them even more. At the same time when these two were living their extravagant lifestyle and spiralling into debt my parents were supporting 4 children on what I imagine was around half the amount these two were earning (as neither of my parents were professionals). They worked incredibly hard and we never wasted a single penny. My mum worked in the fields picking fruit (and she was able to take me with her). Yes ‘times were tough’ as they say, I knew we were poor compared to other children I went to school with (and I was envious) but we also had wonderful evenings as a family playing games and laughing together. That’s priceless. I’m thankful that because of their sacrifices they were able to enjoy many years of retirement and happiness in Brittany and helped set me and my sisters on a better path.
We bemoan the BBC many times for all sorts of valid reasons, but they’ve always made wonderful documentaries. A snapshot of a bygone age that I remember very clearly as a child is really captivating. Particularly in how strongly a once Great Britain contrasts against social, environment, political and cultural mess of today. Only thing great today is the archive quality of this documentary 😊
"a once Great Britain" ... in the minds of conservative Brits.
@@ColtraneTaylorHere we go. Party politics. Surprised you haven't mentioned Donald Trump.
@@phillipecook3227 Can the performativity.
@@ColtraneTaylorThe Conservatives are about to be trounced because so many non “conservative Brits” also don’t think there’s much great about today’s Britain.
@@phillipecook3227 yeah there’s nothing that political parties have done in the last few years that could possibly damage the standard of living of the average person. So why bring ‘party politics’ into it. I like to make whatever reactionary decisions at the ballot box I want. And I should not have to think about any of the consequences.
We don't know how to manage our money but we would like to open our own business. If they were interviewing for a business loan from a bank they would be turned down. BBC Archive is one of the most entertaining and educational channels to watch on YT.
Also we gamble half our wages
They'd fit right in with the average US politician.
His overspending couldn't deal with that dodgy comb-over
Google turns up the obituary of a Tony Whitfield (1940-2022) who was married to a Jill Whitfield. If it's the same bloke he ended up moving to New Zealand and starting a business.
It isn't him. If you keep Googling, you'll find a photo for that obituary. They are too different men.
l was 11 and living in a toilet with an outside house. The swinging sixties didn't reach Lancashire.
Love or hate them, they are authentic
It’s amazing to think he’s quite young but looks like he’s in his early fifties.
Baldies always look old .It terrifies me.😂
when a woman sees a bald man: "bam, he's 50!"
lol
Adjusted for inflation, they take home about £2600 a month and paid £500 a month for a one bed flat in London.
Absolute bargain, rents are stupid.
@BigAL0074 And that's Earls Court - cheapest one bed studio in that area is 3 times the amount. However, your average teacher in London with a few yrs under their belt would be taking home a lot more than £1300 a month nowadays.
Bet that flat, if still there, is no a million pound flat.
@@TheStevenWhitingno they knocked down all the affordable housing in Earl’s Court to build million pound flats
Not British, but does decimilisation of the pound affect the calculation of inflation from the before times?
He has some really strange logic. And he doesn't seem to understand Banks make money from all interest he pays them on on his loans 2:48
JohnDoe
Agreed. His attitude is bog basic though its a combination of consumption and victim hood.
Like you said his attitude to the lender was most bizzare
That interview was horrifying, but at the same time illuminating. The whole financial services industry depends on people like them. Their side hustle of writing to rich people to ask for money reminded me that the periodical "Truth" used to publish a "Cautionary List" of undeserving people who were in the habit of sending begging letters. The list included many clergymen and also the late Dr Crippen.
" The whole financial services industry depends on people like them." - 100% spot on. There's plenty of these suckers around, invest in banking shares and earn from their idiocy and lack of discipline, they might as be useful for something! ha ha!
Born before their time.
There have always been people who think like this. "The world owes me, I'm supposed to have everything."
With today's quick semination of such idiocy, you just see it much more frequently than you used to.
lol
No people have always been like this. We just like to look at the past through rose tinted glasses.
For the Brits here, he reminds me of Norman Tebbit.
Or Rab C Nesbitt
On yer bike!
Rishi reminds me of punkawallah - "Wee Breeteeesh!"!
I heard that not long after the programme aired Tony won over £100,000 on the football pools.
He told Jill that he wanted their name in the papers, so everyone would know how rich they were.
“But Tony, darling, what about all the begging letters?” asked Jill.
“Oh, don’t worry darling, we’ll still keep on sending them!“
😂
👏🤣🤣
“…and then we could start a business.” Ah yes, and never be in debt again! 😅
They would make great fantasy fiction writers. Definitely in the wrong professions.
He emigrated to New Zealand and became a successful businessman, and died in 2022.
My granny bucked the trend back in the day, She bought her white formica 26" colour TV outright, but she was running a Small hotel in Torquay. The Luxury TV was a business expense to get the tourists in. As the other hotels had blsck and white. Just a Pity she prefferd nylon bed sheets (horrible nights sleep) as easier to boil wash daily.
Ran a small hotel in Torquay, eh? Your gran wasn't married to a certain Basil Fawlty, was she?
Good old granny
£1 in 1968 is the equivalent of £14.78 today.
I really must get out more.
Update: He spent £40 on a wig in 1972.
I thought it was a dead cat .lol
He needed it for that bloody rats nest he calls hair.
Bring back the comb over!!😮
lmao
£40 over 8 years at 29% APR. He rolled over the loan many times and is still paying it back to some back street debt collection agency.
I would love an update on those two to see if this cruel,cruel world has given them everything they think they think they should have , or if it continues to " persecute" them
Heartbreaking....
I was thinking that myself.
My guess is that they got divorced
Tony Whitfield and his wife Jill subsequently emigrated to New Zealand. He gave up teaching and became a businessman and died in 2022, aged 81.
So interesting to hear how voices have changed since then....no one speaks like that today.
BBC speak
Only in Kent and East Sussex.
He probably fakes his accent. Lots of pretension.
Neither of them come across as happy.
I believe the both of them are suffering from what is known as a 'stiff upper lip.'
@@FrankJCarver What they're suffering from is believing the world owes them a living.
That was probably the saddest part. They didn't actually seem very happy even though they were "living the dream", they ust looked stressed and worried.
The grass isn't always greener.
My dad was earning £10 a week with a non working wife and two kids in 1968. Renting a flat in Fulham
Not a lot of logical thought processing going on under that comb over. Hope he wasn’t a maths teacher.
🤣🤣
Economics teacher
@@unnamedchannel1237 🤣🤣🤣
What a pair!🙂
Different decade, same problems. People deciding to live beyond their means. Champagne lifestyle and lemonade money.
Amazing watching two 1968 films back-to-back; this one versus the compulsory purchase orders in Oldham wrecking family homes and businesses. Different worlds.
To the comments I thought. Wasn't disappointed. It all makes sense now, it was weird embittered planks like this that taught me in the 1970s.
I've never heard such an entitled person! Brilliant!😄
Interesting that he is a 'schoolteacher' (apparently), but has no qualms about appearing on national TV openly spouting his idiocy. Nowadays he'd be sacked within a week for one dodgy post on social media.
horrortackleharry
He is certainly not thick but is lacking in common sence
Exactly, who would want to employ someone as irresponsible as him.
@@andypicken7848
Sense not sence
Would love to know what became of the Whitfields. How much is their flat in Kensington worth today!?
It was rented but I bet its worth a couple of million.
Drawn a bit of a blank on this pair. All I can find is that they lived in Earls Court, Tony was 25 when this was filmed, went to Liverpool Uni and taught at a Girl's Comp school in Southwark.
@@noplace82 and he had one hell of a combover
@@noplace82Did he have an advanced DBS check... 🤔
The racecourse looks like Ascot. A £10 spend for the day! Would cost well over £100 today just for entry for the pair especially if it was the Royal meeting. A couple of pieces of chicken and chips would cost over £20.
400 actually
@@joelehane1 As i said, it will be well over £100 but it depends on which enclosure. One can purchase tickets today for Tuesday in the Windsor Enclosure for £49 each or in the Queen Anne for £90 each.
Epsom rather than Ascot I think, and possibly free on the inside (you can see the stands are on the other side of the course). Probably the day before Sir Ivor won the Derby, the week before this episode of Man Alive was shown.
Possibly right, i thought at first glance it was Ascot, and I've been to both tracks, but I am not going to spend too much time researching it.@ramruma6330
Made me laugh out loud 3 times
Let her speak mate
Noh not in 1968
I never knew Bobby Charlton and George Best actually lived together in 1968.
😂
The shade is thrown & IT IS GOOD! 🫡👏👏
It's amazing how cheap everything was back then and they still spend above their income.
What is so interesting is that they don't actually know what they are spending their money on.
They are so irresponsible - I would not want to employ these sorts of people.
"We resent people who have money too" - what a messed up character!
I have kept track of every penny I have spent for the past 17 years using Microsoft Money and I am still surprised at how people don't know what they are spending money on.
Hold on Microsoft Money is still able to be run on a modern computer or have you had the same computer for the last 17 years 😂
I don't remember everything being cheap back then, anything I wanted I had to save up for after I had paid the rent on my bedsitter.
You have odd logic. Cheap compared to today, but not compared to incomes back then
A household income of 2k in 1968 per CPI figures is circa 30k in today's money as of time of this comment. So a pair doing 40 hours per week on minimum wage these days would make 40k before tax. Though of course, the cost of housing has gone up a fair bit more than CPI would indicate.
Twits, I wonder how it ended up, lucky for them, high inflation was just around the corner, and if they stopped digging the hole, the debt would diminished rapidly
To be fair, he is punching a bit with Jill. She seems quite nice and pretty, but he seems very sour and chippy. I reckon that in 1974 Jill found a well-endowed 1970's moustachioed He-Man with chest hair, flowing locks and a big gold medallion, while he was left snivelling in a damp flat heated by one candle, moaning about being poor and jealous, and slurping cold Bovril out of an empty Fray Bentos pie tin.
She was a cutie, love that little wry smile she has the whole time. :)
Fray Bentos : a great player in his day; played alongside Pele as I remember...
I wonder what ever happened to them there after ?
In the poorpa house
She probably divorced him for marital abuse.
@@5nowChain5 Divorced him leaving the debts with him more like!
this guy's a teacher? what a very strange man
It’s why the following generation are F’d now because of muppets like this
£500 in 1968 is the equivalent to £7388.65 according to Bank of England inflation calculator for April 2024
I’d be more worried about my combover 😂
If you think this is a combover you never seen my highschool social studies teacher . Combed over one way then combed back again the other way lol
£20 a week as a teacher. Today he'd be on around £900 a week based on the mid-range of the teachers' pay scale for inner London that goes from £37k to £57k pa.
That’s a hell of a lot for a teacher.
He is doing all the talking , wonder if they are still married ?? Alive even !!!
mia56
I doubt they are married
Probably somewhere on facebook banging on about the younger generation needing to give up avocado toast
He was a dick in this . His girl started to talk a little sense then he hushed her and spoke over
A 1 room flat in the centre London, £8 a week!
I think it's more like £500 a week now, if not more.
Doing some math, in 1968 the average teachers salary was around £1600 PA, in London now, it's around £37000
That's roughly 23 times more.
If we take that £8 a week and multiply it by 23, that's £184 pounds.
It's therefore almost 3 times more expensive to rent in central London now, than it was in 1968.
And this video shows how people struggled back then - to us looking back, it feels a whole lot better than where we've got to, doesn't it?
240 pennies in £1 back then .
I understand that it seems like it should make a difference but it doesn’t. Currency was decimalised while keeping the value of the pound the same.
We are indeed three times poorer in this regard (housing)
She was a hottie back then.❤
Minimum Weekly wage was £40 a week upto 1999. Thats a long time for the population to be trapped in poverty.
Society doesn’t change.
Oh yes it does.
The fact that neither one of them can say how much they are spending over income says a lot.
I wonder if they are living an affordable retirement? I would guess not…unless they inherited money?
Or someone fell for their begging letters...
They got their $500 and lived off
That for rest of their life
Christ he was punching ! She's a stunner !
You should go to Specsavers.
Gambling and drinking and smoking and a quiet 🤫 wife submissive to her husband even if he’s not wise … ahh bring back the good old days 😊
This is the kind of people that messed up your future.
£5k a year and he'd be happy?? Bloody Hell he's easily pleased!! 🤔
I wonder where these two are now
At the nursing home - still writing begging letters 😂
@@Loupdelou-ly1ve Haha! It would be interesting to find out. ( Who knows... maybe they've changed over the years and are embarrassed by how they behaved in the past).
How did they find the Gettys' Burg house address?
In the phone book. It contained addresses and phone numbers. Everyone was in there, including rich and famous people. Marilyn Monroe's personal phone number was available to everyone in the 1950s when she was famous. You can see how disciplined most people were at that time from the fact that she was happy to have her phone number available to tens of millions of fans without being afraid of being pestered all the time. I can see how a lot of people today would find what I've just written difficult to believe, because people today wouldn't have the same discipline in not pestering their favourite celebrities.
He comes across as thoroughly unpleasant.
These 2 would have had an only fans and a tik tok channel
Charlie Clore didn't get where he was by giving it away on the strength of begging letters
Odd guy. "You (e.g. J.P. Getty) give us money, and we may make a contribution to humanity."
He was a school teacher ! I wonder is he taught Maths ?
Economics
Imaginary numbers, no doubt.
Frightening.
"It's difficult to say in pounds, isn't it?" Well how about dollars, yen, marks, francs, roubles?
A teacher, living for £8 a week , in the centre of London… thats bananas!
About this time, my grandfather earned £8 a week as a mechanic in Cambridge.
Wow....
Did he later become Rab C Nesbit ?
Something something kids of today something something not like it used to be.
I've been extravagant this year, I've spent £5000 already .....
So... there's always been entitled twots about then.
Or you could call them ambitious.
@@ajs41 I guess so, in a pathological kind of way.
Amazing ...to think people like this now ...mostly cant even add up and talk correctly....not a tat in sight...lovely hearing them speak
Keep in mind, BBC didn't go around looking for weird people.
@@paper_gem that was literally what they did in order to make this 'weird and wonderful' segment though...
His accent is an affectation. You can hear the Northern accent bleeding through at times. Something he no doubt honed whilst at University.
What????They wrote to total strangers to ask for loans???!!!!😮 I get they complain about benefits scroungers as well. Nae cheek nae chance I suppose😮
Dont be so harsh on them. Today it is called GoFundMe. They were pioneers.
Nothing wrote with asking, you never know how people might reply.
His accent is very 'clipped'; he sounds upper class but working class did not go to university back then.
@misscoutts
It was 1968! Not 1568
(You must be very young!)
Mr Rigsby
This was the era of the playboy. Hard to be a high roller and pay interest.
We are as far from this now as they were from 1912.
Bobby Charlton had let himself go…
And people think millennials are entitled.
👍
Lives above his means in a posh area of London and then gets annoyed at his neighbours for having money!
They're like Gen Z: resentful, entitled, self-victimized, and ungrateful even though they have a perfect life.
You are delusional
Dont you realise that the world owes us a living 😂😂😂
Little bit of Crass there....
tbh I have no idea what blah blah blah an amount of money meant back in 1968. I'm too young! I just know I've never been in debt just to keep up with the neighbours in some meaningless tit for tat competition. And ffs they actually wrote begging....sorry, "loan" letters to people from "Who's Who"????? 🙄
I wonder how their lives turned out... ? This would be an excellent documentary follow up, but now they might have passed away..
Living beyond ones means, just to keep up with a certain upper-class strata of life, is not a formula for a long and happy life.... And being a good wife, she is doing what she can for her husband, but one can imagine that she would like to have a family, and so the family should Focus on what they need not what he needs....
This geyser is a bit weird.
Pure jealousy .. doesn't see why other people should have more money than him. Nothing changes
What a sad pair of...
He’s a middle aged man before his time. Chill out bruv and make Jill a happy woman 😂
Theyd probably both be tory MPs now 😉
I wonder if the man in this video has watched it recently and thought how insufferable and smug he sounded, as though those being fiscally prudent were just suffering from a lack of imagination or some such failing.
What a horrible couple. Immature and ntitled
Living in cloud cuckoo land
An excellent metaphor for 14 years of Tory Government
State of them, though..😂
There were 240 pennies in £1 back then .
What a pair of entitled amorals 🙄 I'd love to know how their lives turned out.