AutoCAD vs Revit - Modeling Times Comparison ⏱
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- AutoCAD vs Revit, the often asked question. Which is better? Let's look at just one of the many comparison points - modelling times.
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Translated titles:
AutoCAD vs Revit-Comparación de tiempos de modelado ⏱
AutoCAD vs Revit-Comparaison des temps de modélisation ⏱
AutoCAD vs Revit-Comparação de tempos de modelagem ⏱
AutoCAD vs Revit-Modelling Times Comparison ⏱
AutoCAD مقابل Revit-مقارنة أوقات عرض النماذج Times
AutoCAD与Revit-建模时间比较⏱
AutoCAD ਬਨਾਮ Revit-ਮਾਡਲਿੰਗ ਟਾਈਮਜ਼ ਤੁਲਨਾ ⏱
Let's make a Revit vs Archicad video. That's a fair battle. You do the Revit parts, I do the Archicad parts.
I think it is fabulous! Do it guys!
PLEASE do.
Lets do it with any software.
The project could be a Smal house like that, and the job to be done will be a complete planning aproval.
Rodolfo Spuldaro Tanno I am totally in.
We should decide what kind of content we want to create with this video(s). I don't want it to be like a competition which software is the best. I rather like to create an impression and comparison of the different softwares, so people can think for themselves waht they like and what they don't. Due to the fact that BIM-software is extremely extensive, it would be better to create more then one video. The first video could be about odelling an existing building. The second could go deeper into construction/implementaion or maybe BIM and so on.
I cant believe nobody has mentioned the fact that AutoCAD also has blocks and nobody draws everything from scratch!!
Lolz Revit has families and templates dynamo graphs.
They used blocks in this example! It would’ve taken much longer if they had to draw the furnitures from scratch!
Why not compare with AutoCAD Architecture? All AutoCAD users (from the last 3-4 years) have access to the vertical tool-sets. This is a dishonest video.
I've worked with AutoCAD most of my career and I chose Revit.
This reminds me of those late night infomercials that show the clumsy guy making a mess but there is this fancy new product you just can't live without. No one doing this level of work is going to start completely from scratch in AutoCAD. They have blocks, layers, templates ready to go when they start a job. The ability to set your own commands in AutoCAD is HUGE in saving time. I have used Revit very little and feel it is clunky to use. However it is a great program to create architecture drawings from. I can see the benefit of Revit as Inventor has great uses for mechanical drafting. However, I am not completely sold on using Revit, yet.
There’s got to a better way!
This might have been more compelling if it was AutoCAD Architecture vs Revit. That would be more apples to apples.
Good point. Have you tried the Architecture toolset in AutoCAD 2019 yet? www.redcage.ca/one-autocad/
From my perspective as an electrical engineer, I think at the end of the day if you use one of the verticals built on top of AutoCAD such as Architectural, MEP or Electrical you will see while Revit may be faster at drawing walls, doors and windows than basic 2D AutoCAD, AutoCad MEP and Electrical may still be a better choice for engineers. AutoCAD verticals also enjoy a large ecosystem of compatible software when it comes to real world analysis for electrical engineering that use the same DWG and DXF file formats to exchange information. (I don't know of any electrical analysis software that can read in a native Revit file) As an example every electrical engineering project has a need for a Electrical Single Line Diagram, loop diagram or a ladder diagram, but Revit forces the engineer to step back in time while AutoCAD MEP and Electrical have made considerable progress in this area as well as many 3rd party developers. From my perspective Revit is reasonable fast if everything you need to do is contained within its rigid structure, but the moment you need flexibility it is no better than a 2D cad program. But if you need to maintain information throughout the whole design process your better off with a product like AutoCAD MEP or Electrical.
Revit MEP is still limited in many regards, and civil engineering is not even a part of Revit yet. However, Revit Structure is well advanced and really beneficial to most mid-to-large consultant teams, which has many workflow advantages. Much more needs to be refined to catch up with Tekla/12D/etc but switching to the Revit platform already reaps great rewards for Archi/Interior/Struct firms.
You can easily import a Revit Model into Robot structural analysis
Joseph Taft what's AutoCAD verticals?
I completely agree
@@mohmdagh That was my question also... I never head it before....
In my line of work as detailer for precast concrete elements, autocad is the clear winner. Period.
don't forget most offices already have a template DWG with all layers and blocks like a Revit office,
Autocad= Drafting and 3dmodeling
Sketchup= 3d Modeling
Revit= BIM
Biulding information modeling
ARCHICAD = OPEN BIM!
CAD (multi-purposes/disciplinary)
Revit (Single-purposes for architect and civil engineers)
Sketchup for dummy :P
Autocad Architecture is BIM to...
Nobody in their right mind would choose Autocad for 3d modeling
All i can say after using a lot of diferent dinamyc blocks in autocad, is that the time drawing in autocad can be lowered almost to half or less than its showed in this video, so its not so accurated the time comparison in the part of the floor plant at least...
When you learn how to combine the command wipeout with the blocks in autocad, its almost like you dont have to cut a line anymore.
I have used autocad, archicad and some revit for many years. And i do believe autocad its the fastest and more versatile. You should be able to make that floor plan at the same speed that in revit, even faster (in the video they spend a lot of time setting up the layers and selecting blocks to make the furnitures, but in reality you just copy blocks and layer settings from a previous file). The section is also tricky, you actually have to spend time setting up the heights of walls, levels, and windows, they don`t just come up they way you want like in this video. And they leave the most relevant part of the section out of the video: Making the roof structure. When it comes to simple stuff, 3d is better. But you loose eventually more time figuring out a way to make some window thats not in the list of objects, the roof structure, or fixing some corner that is not connecting the right way.
It really worked for me after I look and try some tutorials, yours is the one that worked. Owe you a lot.
After working with Revit I never want to go back to AutoCAD. D:
Yeah me too
Me too! i started a new job late last year in a firm & didnt know i had to work in autocad & 6 weeks later i resigned & moved to a firm that uses Revit!! I cannot go back to Autocad anymore. it was a nightmare!! It was like going from microsoft word back to a typewriter or from iPhone back to a motorola startac or from an automobile back to horse & carriage. Lol
after working in archicad, i never want to go back to revit.
coin universe I think its good to know both cad and revit since most companies take an.all around type.
I have never like reviiit:(
Cool, please do the same with electrical conduit.....
Not a 100% fair comparison.. the familys on revit were pre-made!!!
Though i think revit will still win, Make the blocks on autocad and start again for a fair comparison!
not a fair comparison, if you don't have some of families, cad could be quicker.
他们可能不知道天正的厉害哈哈
revit just use for families that something is useful, otherwise just use cad to change some details
i just did and it makes a lot of sense in that perspective
It's funny how people are complaining about it "not being a fair comparison" when this in fact the right comparison. I've known no firm that uses Autocad Arch, but can attest to many who still use strait AutoCAD as shown here.... This clearly proves the superiority of BIM.
it may not be a fair comparison however they need to be compared becoz they are the 2 major AEC industry standard softwares. Most autocad users that justify autocad is better are too lazy to go out of their comfort zone just to learn a new system & they’ll never understand why revit/bim is more efficient!!!
Ralph : Do you know one soft where you can make electrical diagram, P&IDs, Steel structure, Architecture, Mechanical, Piping in 3D ?
I work for EPC's company and from my experience, most of them need/use one soft per job... and as many licences (€€€ or $$$). But u can do all in one soft : AutoCAD with only one licence. The problem is here (in France), you learn AutoCAd only as a 2D drawing soft while u can do much more with it. Lots are also too lazy to learn 3D with AutoCAD (without speaking about customizing and LISP/VBA programming).
You are comparing the wrong software solutions. Of course you need longer using raw 2D AutoCAD - BUT luckyli there is an AutoCAD ARCHITECTURE version, using that same automatically generated walld/doors/windows, generating automatic elevations/sections etc. just as Revit does, handling 3D-Models, creating surprisingly high quality renderings. I've used ACAD successfully for years, and I am quite sure drawing that simple floor plan in AutoCAD Architecture won't take me that 16 min it took you in Revit...
Good day and thank you for the comment. I appreciate your knowledge around the Autodesk product line, and would have to agree that AutoCAD Architecture would be a faster way to get the end result than it would with AutoCAD. We liked this video and chose to share it because our usual conversation is not about switching from AutoCAD Architecture, but switching from CAD to BIM. Time is one reason addressed quite well within this video, but Revit also offers a more robust and flexible modelling platform for architects, engineers and designers who need more than just drafting, but a solution for analysis, visualization, construction scheduling and execution as well as extending the life cycle and usability of your design. At the end of the day, we're happy you're a proponent of Autodesk!
Travis thabks for your response. People should understand revit is not just another modelling tool. It is about structured data management, collaboration and effective change management. For those who see Revit as amodelling tool, they are just not aware of BIM or feels their little corner is brighther than where the rest of the world is moving to
Have you checked out AutoCAD 2019 yet? www.redcage.ca/one-autocad/ The Architecture component is now built into a workflow called a toolset. Have you had a chance to use it?
yes maybe civil version is good topic
There's no question that Revit can be far more productive, but the AutoCAD side is going out of it's way to be less productive. The real benefit is not in the layout - with effective customization and block libraries, CAD is easily as fast as any BIM. The value is the different design process where the design becomes the model. With CAD, I'm documenting my design, so the design process takes place elsewhere - often only mentally. With BIM the documentation is a by-product of doing the design. The design data gets captured in the process, and you get a much richer set of data at the end.
Short version is that you wouldn't draft a layout in Revit, you perform the design.
...when the projects become big and revisions are many, Revit excels alot vs Autocad.
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IT'S ALWAYS THE UNDERRATED VID THAT'S LEGIT! THANK YOU!
man I missed this kind of tutorials lol. Great work here, thanks!!!
The comparison is not fair, in my opinion. The title of the video says "Modeling Times Comparison", but in the video you are using AutoCAD 2D vs Revit. To make a fair comparison of two "modeling" applications you should compare AutoCAD Architecture vs Revit.
now apply some changes the customerr wanted. or measure m2 for every room and produce stats and boms. refresh all views and stats. loop all that 30 times in each project. revit bingo.
This video does not represent the abilities of the program but the abilities of the human being, respectively user. It is impossible to compare two programs that are completely different. AutoCAD classic is a wide-ranging software for editing and creating drawing documentation. AutoCAD REVIT is a software designed for the construction industry, it is impossible to compare the capabilities of these two software.
Sorry for my english :D
You are spot on with your interpretation.
It's called using the right tools for the job... You can beat a nail into a 2x4 with a screwdriver, but it's way easier to use a hammer instead. Now make a 3d model of a lamp in revit
Nail gun is faster :-)
Easy, just model it in place, same as AutoCAD
I guess its unfair compare"standard autocad" with revit... i mean y can compare revit with "autocad architecture" its kind of the same -.-
Worked thank you alot! you're the best bro liked
Lol.. I see what you did there.. but modeling floor plans you need to use autocrad architecture..
How about their vs a chief architect or sketchup - maybe even faster and with a much lower learning curve than revit, and maybe all you need for residential projects. It also comes down to what plugins and extra content you have. I don't think we have arrived yet at a perfect solution for all projects/creators, but it's getting closer as these products learn from each other
With this logic, I expect a Notepad vs. Blender 3D animation comparison video from you.
Lol!
hahahahahaha
Thanks! Your video content is the safest and most useful
More architects and engineers use Autocad with add ons such as Architecture, MEP, etc. The problem lies in the transfer of files with your consultants. Don’t expect an easy time converting Revit to Autocad without any problems. Most engineers do not like Revit and some offices may have only one or a few proficient in Revit.
The one BIG problem with any cad drawing, it looks good on paper but wait until the steel fabricator does his anchor bolt plan and it doesn’t work out. One of my friends quit as a principal because there were too many cad errors and the stress was killing him trying to resolve these problems. Better yet, when the person who drew the plans leaves, try to figure it out. Could take hours or days.
I think Revit may be better for residential work because there is very little consultant involvement. For small commercial, I would still go with Autocad. For very large projects Revit may be better because large firms can invest in cad training and keeping cad draftsman. One thing I do know, when architects retire they do not really do any more projects.
30 years ago our general manager said the architecture business was too difficult.
G - The issue is that the Architecture and design profession in this country (Australia) is taking a long time to fully adopt the power of BIM and working with shared models. Agreed that this may not be so useful for Residential architecture right now, but in time, once all professions catch up, using a shared model will allow all industries to work in unison, from cradle to grave for all construction projects. Our experience is that associated disciplines (Structural/Interiors/landscaping), are taking a long time to adopt BIM (Revit) for various reasons. Eventually though they will and then designing and constructing buildings will not only be more efficient, but will see less problems and reduction in costs.
Can you model a special TV or computer in Revit? AutoCAD can do it within minutes.
yes of course, you can modeling anything in revit. get know more about revit skillness. Look at this for exemple : ua-cam.com/video/73a8qgMP6DY/v-deo.html
it doesn`t take18s to draw a "cross section" (BTW not interior elevation), it`s already there.
So why didn't you use autocad architecture? instead of plain autocad then you would have walls and selfcutting doors now its comparing pears and oranges
They each have their own applicatioms. I use Revit for work everyday for structural drafting and i would not go back to AutoCad for that sort of work.
This is comparing 2D autocad with Revit. Not a fair comparison.
nccaddie it is a fair comparison when lots of firms still use 2d CAD for drawings.
i think it is not about what is fair ;) its just a comparison
Why didn't you use mline for the walls? neither use Design center nor trim command in global mode :/
And yet there are people who still use Autocad. I think its just a passion for them
30 seconds just to draw the door opening in the kitchen. Also, over 1 minute from when the door appears in model space, to when it's actually placed with the wall trimmed. Not a very realistic AutoCAD work flow.
When many people made the switch to Revit, their AutoCAD standards and workflow were total junk. Revit was easily faster than that... well sort of. Revit is great until something goes wrong. Then you'll spend hours trying to fix one little thing. Revit also requires that your standards be completely sorted or your drawings will look like junk. It's possible to create nice drawings (with a few constraints/restrictions) but it's a ton of work. It was a lot of work to build AutoCAD standards but even more with Revit, hence why so many people simply steal other's content, and/or give up on presentation.
AutoCAD is faster for 2D detailing and annotating (yes, even with Revit's labelling system, AutoCAD is still quicker overall). If it's slower it means your CAD standards need to be updated. The only way that Revit can keep pace with a good set of customization using the API or other. This requires C#, Python, etc... And these codes will need to be updated with each release of Revit.... which equals $$$$$.
Revit absolutely has it's strong points, but many don't realize that plain old 2D CAD is actually much better for many projects. In reality, a mix of CAD and Revit (or another 3D program) is ideal for buildings (to create sections quicker).
I would like to see a comparison of drawing a completely fully detailed building section in Revit compared to AutoCAD. I use Dynamic blocks in AutoCAD and I'm able to produce such a thing pretty quickly. I'm also able to make changes to it easily. I don't have to go and pull in one component at a time and I know things like brick and block coursing.
AutoCad isn’t even close just try moving a window behind a railing on one or the other in elevation. It’s maybe 5 seconds in Revit va a whole afternoon in AutoCad. Also what this video doesn’t show is that Revit is also doing this in 3D so there are something vaguely resembling elevations going on at the same time as well as sections that just need a little tidy up with families which are much more intuitive to make than dynamic blocks.
@@aethylwulfeiii6502 My Comment specifically described "a completely fully detailed building section". The blocks I use for railings have wipeouts so there is no time. Still ,"I would like to see a comparison of drawing a completely fully detailed building section in Revit compared to AutoCAD."
Hey! Thanks so much for this video!
how about drawing a family on revit without chamfer, fillet, multiple trim, command line, and more. Great software but really slow with specific drawing by now. Details need autocad. Some day it will be
REVIT CANT DO COMPLEX MODELLING LIKE AUTOCAD HAVE WITH SURFACE and MESH..PRESS PULL, DYNAMIC UCS, CONVERT SOLID TO SURFACE and VICE VERSA.... GET INSIDE THE 3D MODE OF AUTOCAD AND YOU WILL SEE A DIFFERENT WORLD.. THE BIG DIFFERENCE. BUT FOR SIMPLE DESIGN REVIT IS FASTER...AUTOCAD IS A SLOWLY BUT SURELY BUSINESS.. THATS WHAT I KNOW.
Is not corect if you use the Autocad Architecture it's very similar like Revit ;)
I tried and it is installed thank u very much anda
You really good at explaining thank you
Hey, good video. For future videos i would recommend a editing s
I've been using Sketchup and Layout in both 2d and 3d in professional practice for 3 and a half years now on small extensions to large commercial work, producing planning drawings and building warrant drawings. I draw miles faster than the AutoCAD users and not much slower than those on Revit - the difference is I have a lot more freedom and control over my details, unlike the Revit users who are restricted by the steeper learning curve. I can also use SketchUp as a design tool - something i struggle with when using Acad, Revit or even 3DS. I'm relatively well versed with all these software. My two pence...
The advantage of sketch up that, I think, not many realize is that you can start by make a sketch on real paper with your hand , so you can bring forth your idea almost right from your brain, then you digitize it and import it to SketchUp then you developed it into a metered 3d in SketchUp, further you can developed and refine it into a presentable drawings up into production drawing with the help of accompanying program called LayOut. So that's where the name sketchUp from, from a sketch up to final drawings. SketchUp is also an open program. You can insert apps ( it called script in sketch up)from different source either for free or at a nominal fee, so you can have unlimited additional whatever commands that suit your need. More ever there's also a community based site called warehouse where all user around the world can share objects made by other user for free.
You use the wrong way to determine the speed of the two software. For example, if you put household furniture in autocad, you force the image of furniture to be the same as the furniture issued by Revit. In the autocad system, you should draw a shape from the wall of the building and then enter the image block such as household furniture that has been formed for autocad from third parties or download.
help how do u get better at using cad :
Worked , thanks a lot!
true but with revit if there is something not in the box and you are new...it can take a while...
You dont even use autocad architecture and key command and u try to make a comparaison?
Why no use autocad Architecture, the standard version of Academic is slow compared to its version for drawing build
Thank you, it works perfect!
Pues eres principiante en AutoCad. 32 minutos con los accesorios tipo blok.... En 32 minutos hago el mismo plan en 3D y el mobiliario desde zero , tambien 3D. Creo que me da tiempo y para poner material y renderizar.
Excuse me , Aren't Autocad and Revit come from same company ? i. e Autodesk inc., so they must have different market.
Autocad is for precision drawing
Revit is for architectural presentations
Different software for different purposes
Maybe use Autocad Architecture AEC objects like walls, windows, doors, openings etc.
playing around with it and never knew certain tNice tutorialngs. I thought you could only use it with a midi keyboard.
Thanks for the inspiration 😘
took me a while due to mistake, but it works thanks
It's like comparing acad to civil 3D ... which is gonna do grading faster? gee I wonder...?
That's fake news. There's autocad architecture
Just simply put the code, it works! thanks!
Revit is faster but I use AutoCAD because I can work both architectural and landscaping projects.
no tiene sentido compararlos porque el uno es BIM mientras el otro es CAD, autocad tambien tiene su version architecture que basicamente es lo mismo que revit.
Yes of course Revit is faster for this kind of modeling, because Revit Architecture built for Architects, they make it easy for
Architects to model things like this, and because it is BIM tools. But on the other hand AutoCAD is more multidisciplinaries and not BIM tools, so it is not specially fast in this kind of modeling purpose. In my opinion, maybe it is more appropriate to compare Revit Architecture with ArchiCAD, they both are BIM tools...
Miaga Buwana - Revit is literally the worst modeling available. AutoCAD, Rino, Sketchup are all better by far.
The guy who goes AutoCAD this way is not good enough because you do walls and aperture/doors BEFORE put in the furnitures!! I'm sorry but to draw a flat with 4/5 rooms with the blocks they used I draw them les than five minutes 5/6 rectangles doesn't take much than 3/4 minutes to draw.
But, to make the documented 3D part I'm ok with REVIT : it's much faster!! But you got a lot to do with the documentation part either in REVIT!!
When it comes to Detailing, nothing can be compared with AutoCAD.
who is better plz talk me
Why there is a comparison, both applications is having it's own speciality...
As a 3d software user I found AutoCad is more finicky to do things with little to maybe none way to do things procedurally or automatically
Lisp routines use a programming language from the 1950s, vs Dynamo graphs and Python , the automatic features are definitely better in revitland.
Make something more difficult! and I'll watch you making new family during 4 hours
I am fast in revit i won 1st.my skills usa competition for architecture drafting in high school
Hi, can I use part this video in my facebook page?
Best Answer ever !
You can not compare Acad with Revit , you have to use ACA ... SrY but this is useless
Make the same comparison but with a project with various heights on the same slab and a round corner containing a window.
If you know how to make custom families it won’t be too difficult. Or you could just cheese it with a “curtain wall”
there is not compration revit is a program for modeling and has a special jobs deferment than auto cad... there is some thin in cad cant be done by rivet for example can you do a complex model for example model have a spiral rope in space changed its direction... I know that because I use both program
COMPARING BIM SOFTWARE WITH A NON PARAMETRIC 2D SOFTWARE .. TRY REVIT WITH ANY OTHER 3D BIM SOFTWARE.
Why would you compare them at all??
Try compare AutoCAD Architecture and Revit, that is some fair game. I would like to see that video..
If you already use the both of them you should know better, than make this video that is misleading..
The wrong comparison is supposed to be a comparison between the Revit and the AutoCAD Architect
After working with Revit I never want to go back to AutoCAD !
was sowhere where I couldn't get my stuff. Now 3, I looked for help, watched video upon video after video and on and on. About a
There is no comparison between Revit and AutoCAD,
Revit should be compare with ArchiCAD..
I think ArchiCAD is more easy and speedy software than Revit.
i love u so much bro, thanks very much
this is like comparing screwdrivers versus hammers. different tools for different purposes
They're different kinds of product (otherwise it would be hardly justifyable for one company to make both). For example I only work on old buidings where the walls aren't straight, the angles are never 90° a the windows and doors are all different shapes and sizes. So Revit is no better for me than AutoCAD (actually I use C3D and make advantage of COGO and features). It's like comparing acar to a plane - each takes you froma A to B, but you can't say that one is always better than the other.
You never start an AutoCAD project without a preset template. That's unfair.
Un plano sin cotas no sirve. Con cuál se acota mejor con Autocad o con Revit?
Que caso tiene trabajar en revit si después lo andan pasando a AUTOCAD para ponerle detalles y corregir cosas que en revit no se puede, las cotas son mucho mejores en AUTOCAD, yo he tenido la oportunidad de trabajar con revit y no me agrado para nada, me quedo con AUTOCAD
thanks, It avoids me to make the race for real.
This is almost like comparing an artist to an architect.
REVIT IS FAST WHEN IT COMES TO ELEVATIONS BUT THE METHOD EMPLOYED WITH THE AUTOCAD CAN BE BETTER WITH THE GENERATING METHOD OR PROCEDURE. I RECOMMEND YOU USED THE ARCHITECTURE.
Thanks for your comment, Bruce. Have a read through Travis' comment below.
If you want to make things with structured data and manage changes with no much work and collaborate well, Revit is definitely your tool. Autocad no matter how good it is has its shortfall. A very good Revit user will make revit better anyday than Autocad
What about quantifications and tables?
Thanks for the licences <3
how to make section foundation in revit ?