How to use Dante to connect a mixer to a laptop
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- Опубліковано 28 лют 2022
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Dante is one of the most powerful tools in live audio right now and understanding how to use it can make playback during gigs and soundchecks so much easier.
In this video, we'll connect a Yamaha QL1 mixer to a DAW using the built-in Dante card. I'm using Reaper but this should work with any DAW. If you have a different mixer with a Dante card inserted then the process should be similar.
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SUPER helpful! I have used Dante to do multitrack recordings from our Allen & Heath GLD-80 mixer (with Dante card) into a DAW, but I wanted to reverse the flow to be able to do trainings to teach folks in our church how to mix music in our auditorium without having a live band on stage. I hoped it could be done, and this video showed me how (with a few tweaks specific to our GLD mixer). Thank you!
Great to hear! Glad you managed to tweak it to the GLD as well. I was trying to keep the info as general as possible so that people could make it work on other mixer, great to hear it worked :)
Thanks for making the video. Clear and concise and Very well done!
You're very welcome! Thanks for the comment
Fantastic video, it was very well explained. Many thanks SM
You're very welcome!
Lovely explanation. Thank you.
You are welcome!
Thank you for the great video!!. I definitely would like to see more videos about Dante!!
So glad you enjoyed it. I've got another video about Dante coming up. It's been a little delayed so if there's anything in particular you're wondering about then let me know and I'll try and get it into the video 🙂
@@OffshoreAudio I have a question. The workshop you offer is also based in the Yamaha QL1?. I tried to watch the first module but it says under maintance.
@@delsurmusic Ah it's not, it's mostly shown on an X32, it's designed to teach fundamentals not specifics about a certain console. It doesn't cover Dante at all but I'm planning a big update to the course this summer so I could include some dante stuff.
Great video thanks my friend
You're very welcome!
Thank you for this video! I the opposite true, whereby you record incoming tracks from your mixer, to the Danate virtual card, and onto the laptop and Reaper?
You know what I was looking for the reverse process tutorial as to how to multitrack record to the DAW. I also use Reaper (which I hate rofl) and need to know what I'm doing wrong as all my Dante seems properly setup. I also use a Yamaha DM2000 V2 which is way more complex it seems.
Thanks for this video. I want to get a completely isolated mix for my live streaming systems without using the mix from the FOH mixer. I want to get a separate mixer for this purpose. What options do I have with Hardware audio mixer over DAW? Which is a better recommendation for Hardware mixer between Behringer X32 and Midas M32? What DAW works very well on Dante networked audio?
You're welcome! Thanks for the comment. It depends a little on what you're using for your FOH mixer and you would need a dante card for both FOH and streaming mixers to do it. If you had an M32 at both FOH and streaming then you would connect your mics and gain them up as normal. You could then send the gained up mic signals to the streaming mixer using dante and mix the stream completely separately.
Though if you were using two X32s/M32s then you wouldn't actually need dante. I could do a video demonstrating that if you'd like?
As far as recommendations, both mixers are very similar and capable, if money is no object then get the M32, and the buttons are nicer. For a DAW use whatever you're used to. As long as you know how to route inputs then it'll get the job done just fine.
Hope this helped, let me know how you get on.
Hi Andrew, great tutorial. After watching I started wondering if you could offer me some suggestions as to where I might be going wrong in my set up. I have a Dante card in my Allen & Heath GLD-112 mixer a laptop with the DVS drivers installed and I am using Reaper as my DAW. I'm using the Dante Controller software as well. My mixer and laptop are both connected to a switch so my audio is networked. I can get all of the channels into reaper but I'm unable to monitor the audio at the laptop witch is not near the mixer and I cannot get the audio back into the mixer from the laptop so that I can preform virtual sound checks. I have configured the I/Os for Direct and I am using a 1 to 1 patch throughout. Forgive me for the long-winded explanation but wanted to be as detailed as possible just in case you would want to offer some advice.
Hey Kevin, interesting situation and thanks for the detail. My first thought reading it is that you would probably need separate return channels for the sound coming back from the laptop, though perhaps I'm reading too much into the situation. Are you recording the audio and then trying to play it back afterwards with reaper or are you trying to monitor it in real-time?
If you've got the tracks coming into reaper then you've won half the battle and you know that you have communication between your dante card and DVS, and it's set up correctly in reaper.
My list of things to check would be are:
Are the reaper outs set to individual DVS outs?
Are the subscriptions in Dante controller set up correctly? Is the card on the GLD subscribed to sound from DVS?
Are the input channels on the GLD then set to receive sound from those dante inputs?
Are there any inserts or anything that could prevent the incoming sound reaching the fader?
These are just the things I can think of off the top of my head but please let me know how you get on!
Thanks for the great tips! Do you know if it's possible to have one Yamaha Rio connected to the primary port, for example, and connect my laptop to the secondary port?
Hey thanks for the comment! Yeah it's absolutely possible, that would work fine. You'll need to make sure your mixer and Rio are set to operate in daisy chain instead of redundant mode.
Will this work with a Soundcraft si profermer
Hi, thanks for the tutorial.. I see that you use Reaper for DAW.. I want to ask, is it also can to be used with Nuendo?
Hey, Glad, you liked it! It should work more or less exactly the same on all DAWs (maybe easiersince reaper is a little weird). You would just select Dante Virtual Soundcard as your soundcard in Nuendo instead of whatever audio interface you're currently using. Hope that helps
can someone run some channels processing plugins from the laptop back to the console, just the way you routed it here, can someone run live professor like this
Thanks for the video review! HOW EASY IS IT TO MAKE A MULTITRACK RECORDING IN A REAPER? - 48 CHANNELS WILL BE INVOLVED IN THE CONCERT
Hello mate, thanks you for the video, realy good. I got a question if you don't mind, I am trying to run Reaper with Dante Virutal Sound Card, but when I am going to select Dante on Reaper nothig is going on play, so I can not test nothing (I got same configuration in your video) You think could be a License problem (I got trial for now) or any tips?
Thank you in advance
Hey, I erally don't think it is a license problem, I've recorded a show using both Reaper and DVS on a trial license. Is the playhead not moving in reaper? I've managed to ge the same issue when I just opened it up now. Probably a driver or routing issue, Pro tools does this weird stuff all the time. I'll have a look and let you know if I work it out on my machine.
Do you have it connected to a dante device? That would be what I would check next.
@@OffshoreAudio Thank you so much for your reoly, yes, like you said the playhead dosn't move, but if I kill DVS everything back to normal, the problem is when I start to run DVS, earlier I tried with Cubase, everything work fine, just on reaper nothng. My configuration was same of you, PC (windows) Dante and QL1
Had a similar issue, turns out Avast antivirus was blocking everything because I was connecting directly and there was no DHCP server so the network is considered a public network. A fix is to turn off antivirus, add in a router that gives DHCP, or manually go through PowerShell and manually set your Ethernet to private
thanks for the video. How much round trip latency you are getting using virtual dante driver? I think using a pcie card might get u much lower latency. whats your experience? thanks
A good question. I've not used it much for round trips and I've not tested it. Mostly used it for recording shows and playing back.
I have an ILIVE board hooked up to Dante the computer is reading Dante but I’m not getting any audio. Please help
Is Dante controller showing green ticks? Is the Dante card routed to channel inputs? Check out this other video.
Creating A Straightforward Dante Network
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Did you go through my Dante cheat sheet?
Offshore audio.no/dante
Can I use my MacBook Pro running DVS to host plugins such as Waves Tune for my Allen & Heath SQ5 with Dante card. Thanks
In theory yes but I've never done it. I've heard that the latency is too high to really work for real time processing. It would probably work for reverbs etc but I imagine it would be too slow for tuning
@@OffshoreAudio but you use usb from the behringher to a computer for waves tune
At the end of the day it will work in the sense that your signals wll go where they need to go, but you and the artist will have to decide what an acceptable latency is. I can't recommend it because I've not used it for tuning and I don't know any pros who do. But if you have access to the SQ and dante card why not try it out and let me know what kind of latency you come across.
Great information and timely for me.
I am trying to figure a way to use my PC Laptop (running Studio One) into my analog mixer. The sound card I am considering uses DANTE and MADI and I did not know how i can connect the PC Laptop with the 32 I/O sound card until I saw your video. (I am still on the fence which sound card to buy until I figure out the best way to do this on cost).
Question Please:
Does anyone make an external device to run DANTE with a PC Laptop?
Also, if you have any recommendations on a sound card that will give me 32 channels Out (for analog console mixdown) I would appreciate your advice. Thanks in advance.
Philip
NYC Area
Hey Philip, I get you. Hard to say without knowing the exact mixer. If you have an analogue mixer then I think the only way to do it is to get 32 channels of I/o with a couple of sound cards linked together.
www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/16A--motu-16a-32x32-thunderbolt-usb-2.0-audio-interface-with-avb
You can link these with toslink cables.
Then you'd need 32 Jack cables...
It would be easier and cheaper to get a digital mixer like an x32 with the usb card installed and then just use that as your soundcard.
Using Dante isn't viable unless you're going from digital to digital.
Hope that helps. NYC is a cool place. Hopefully I'll get a chance to visit it again soon
@@OffshoreAudio Hello and thanks for your reply.
I have a digital mixer (Presonus 32S model) but don't like using it. It's great for a Control surface using Studio One, but very tedious if you have a lot of vintage out-board gear you would like to use during a mix down.
I have an Allen Heath 32 channel analog mixer with Line level Balanced TRS Inputs and TRS direct outputs which i want to use for mix down
I am on the fence whether to get a FrrroFish A32 (I would need to use Dante for this) or The Antelope Orion Gen 4 interface which i could use USB. (I could buy the discontinued Orion Gen 3 model as well if I use Thunderbolt for 32 I/O. The Gen 4 model can do 32 I/O using it's USB connection.
Thanks and next time in the area love to connect and meet sometime.
Phil
NYC / Jersey Shore Area
how many audio networking protocols are there in professional audio
Hey, I'm afraid I don't know. There's loads. Aes50, aes3, Dante, gigaAce, MADI...I couldn't take a guess at how many different protocols there are.
@@OffshoreAudio thanks and do they have training on Madi
@@MatthewProAudio.11 I've not come across any myself. It's an older standard but you could read the AES paper that defines the standard if you're interested in learning more. Is there a reason you're specifically interested in MADI?
Gonna use reaper cause protools hates me 😂
Aw same! Honestly, I just gave up on pro tools. It's not worth the hassle.
Couldn´t all of this be avoided by just using Virtual Sound Card and Dante Controller?
A good question. Potentially you could use dante controller to route DVS to the console dante inputs, so you could avoid roughly 8:00 to 10:00 in the video. I'd say that knowing how to do it with the console is a valuable skill though. I've not tried with dante controller and the QL stuff in a while so give it a go and let me know.
Oi família eu sou um dantes