Creating A Straightforward Dante Network
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- Опубліковано 1 лип 2024
- Set up a simple dante network with my dante cheat sheet:
courses.offshoreaudio.no/dante
Dante has become the name in multichannel audio over IP. It’s super flexible and more and more devices are dante enabled. Low latency, super high channel counts and being able to use it on a regular ethernet-based network make it a no-brainer for certain setups.
But If you know nothing about networking it might give you the fear. Thankfully you don’t need to know much networking to get a simple dante network up and running.
In this video:
An overview so you can know if dante is for you
A tutorial of dante controller so you can get connected and use your dante setup pronto
Some examples to show how you might use dante
Some simple troubleshooting tips to help you get past the first hurdles.
This is great, thank you! Dante can be very overwhelming and you explained and simplified it very clearly. The cheat sheet is also of great value.
Thanks so much! Glad the cheat sheet is helpful
Wow now I finally get it!!! Thank you!!! Wish Dante explained it like you!
Love this! And I loved that you replayed the 1 second video of each component when referencing back to it,. Visual maps in place!
Thank you. Your explanation is clear as day!
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you! I just got Level 1 Certified a few days ago. This was a great explanation
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent video.Well explained...
I just left a comment and question on another video of yours on the subject. Thanks.
Philip
NYC Area
Thanks Andrew 😊 I am learn so many thing
Happy to hear!
Wicked Excellent awesome cristal clear and logic. Nice accent !
Thank you kindly!
Thanks champ, this is helpful.
Glad it was helpful!
I have a Dante card coming next week for an SQ5. Your video is excellent. First time into Dante and you explained it so well. Brilliant! Jim, Las Vegas.
Thanks Jim! Glad it was helpful!
@@OffshoreAudio Andrew, can Live Professor, SQ5 Dante card and a DX-165 stage box be used for live Waves plugins? I don’t own the Dante (DT-165) stage box. If this works, I’d sell my Waves I/O card for the SQ5. I have both cards at the moment, Waves and Dante I/O cards for the SQ5. Thanks. Jim, Las Vegas.
Very good video
So nice. Thank you
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hi @@OffshoreAudio
I have a X32 with a snake cable box with 8 outputs on stage, i also have the sd16 for an additional 8 outputs. How do i route my mixer to take the first output from my xir output and the other 8 outputs from the SD16 stagebox output.
Why Do I Have No Sound On X32? Full Guide To Routing On X32 And M32
ua-cam.com/video/RZ7fto1Ph6Y/v-deo.html
Great sir
Thanks!
Thank you!!
You're welcome!
For a point-to-point link without a switch in between, a crossover cable may be needed.
This fact is highly overlooked.
Nice video! Where does preamplification occur in your network? In stage box or stage rack?
Great question. It happens in the stagebox. Got to get the mic signal up to line level before converting it to digital. So it would look like this. Mic> Preamp>ADC Now you've got a digital signal you can send over Dante.
@@OffshoreAudio thank you a lot!
I want to switch my radio studio from all Analog to Dante enable but my Audio Mixer and equipment is not Dante enabled. I know there are AVIO adapters for the analog equipment, but is there something I could buy that would enable Dante on my audio mixer? Thanks!
wow thanks for your time. according to your Gide i use DCNM server but before few days the Dante system interface all intercom restart simultaneously than i reset server network option bout no transmitter and no receiver is no found any devise can you help me on this. ?
I'm not familiar with dcnm, try setting static IP addresses and using subnets to separate the Dante traffic from any other traffic on the network.
the best
Thanks!
Hi Andrew, do you know if it is possible to use a wifi link in a Dante network ? For example is it possible to link a mixer ( say TF3) with the stage I/O box (say Tio1608-D2) without cat5/6 cable. Using good 3rd party wifi link units..... thanks for a a very informative video !👍
Good question. You cannot, its too unstable for audio so Dante won't recognise WiFi connections. Though apparently you can connect Dante controller wirelessly. Info here: www.audinate.com/learning/faqs/can-dante-operate-over-a-wi-fi-network
thanks for your reply and comments Andrew. If I do get a chance to try a fast wifi 6 within a Dante network.... I'll report back what the outcome is 🧐😊
WiFi splits multiple clients into time sections both to account for multiple devices connected to the same network as well as to allow bi-directional communication over the same channel/frequency. Because this is dynamically changing, it makes protocols that require precise synchronization like Dante impossible.
There are some wireless links that do not use the wifi standard that may, and I do stress _may_ work with Dante, but they're not exactly cheap. Probably the most popular solution for this is the Ubiquiti airFiber line (_not_ unifi)
Thank you for this video, so more than 100m is not recommended?
I think this is the problem that cause my Dante connection stop working sometimes for a few seconds!
Correct. It's on the audinate website somewhere, also on Allen and Heath and Yamaha. I believe the phrase was "100m between each node" of the network. So in theory if you go through a switch or another Dante entity then your distance counter is reset, if that makes sense.
@@OffshoreAudiothis correlates with the Category standard of the cables used to the best of my knowledge and understanding; the fatter/faster the “pipe,” the shorter the hops tend to get. While Cat7 is 10+ Gbps, that’s only reliable/to spec for cable lengths of up to 40m (iirc, and I probably don’t, so check that). This is where things start to get spendy, building the infrastructure that’s capable of moving the amount of data at the required speeds over the required distances while keeping latency as low/negligible as possible. Switches with SFP/fiber trunking/backhaul, battery backup for them…
Can SD8 connect over Dante to computer directly as I use logic Pro as mixer. I think that is possible can Anyone know that is possible so that I dont need a physical mixer like XR32
SD8 uses the AES50 protocol to transfer audio data, not dante, so it cannot connect to anything using dante. You can only connect it to a device with an AES50 port. It's not designed to operate as a standalone preamp so you wouldn't be able to conrol gain, 48v, or routing without the mixer. If you did somehow connect it to Logic it would probably be a hassle so I wouldn't recommend it. Check out this video to learn how stageboxes work: ua-cam.com/video/MEdegrbjgfY/v-deo.html
Do you guys think is intelligent to have a Dante set up for a set up with 10 synths? I would use a stage box for all the inputs in one place, and try to avoid lots of cables around the room. Does it make sense ?
It makes sense if you're always working with a mixer with dante innputs. I see that all the time. E.g. a dlive mixer, with a DT168 stagebox by the keys and synths. But if you're just in and out of different venues with different engineers then you'd probably be better just going for a loom.
@@OffshoreAudio I see. It would be for my home studio so a mixer with Dante would be ideal, but…… Could I skip the mixer and process all the signals in the box using my daw Ableton Live? Does it make sense? So, I mean, in order to save some money, I would get a DT168, and then move straight into my daw with an Ethernet cable. Is it possible?
I think my first brain needs a Dante card to be installed!🥴
Soon.
Could someone please explain to me why I need Dante. I don’t know much about this but why can’t I just connect my stage box to my mixer?
Hello. The good news is You don't need Dante, it's just the language that certain equipment uses to communicate. All digital stageboxes talk to the mixer using a certain language or protocol. If you're using an sq5 mixer and a DX stagebox then you don't need to think about Dante at all because you're not using it. If you're using a DT stagebox with a Dante card in the same mixer then you probably need to understand how Dante works. So whether you need to know and understand Dante just depends on the equipment that you're using.
Of course if you're pursuing audio as a career then understanding Dante is a must have skill, but that's a different conversation. Hope that helps.
Yes I thought why would I use it if I need to patch everything 2 times. But now I get it that you could have a entire network with this system. Thanks for your comment
I am facing a sync out issue while recording 64 tracks via dante network. Audio goes out of tempo as duration of the clip recording increases.any jdea why
Ever figure this issue out? Just curious…
It's a latency with Dante itself. Have not found any possible solution till date after all the research
You might want to try using multicast flows to your DAW
I guess thats gonna create more latency since it makes network more busy
It's literally the opposite. The multicast flow will bundle multiple audio channels into the same network flow - this should result in less sockets which should be easier to handle.
The network bandwidth will stay the same.
Right, School me.