Can gas turbines run on hydrogen fuel? | GE Power | GE Power Highlights
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- Опубліковано 27 тра 2019
- Discover how GE’s gas turbines are already using hydrogen as a source of energy, and how GE is preparing technology for a future in which hydrogen may become a major fuel for power generation. Not only does operating on hydrogen allow existing industrial plants to capitalize on gases that they already produce, but using hydrogen can lead to reduced CO2 emissions too!
Let GE’s Fuel Guy, Jeff Goldmeer, walk you through how hydrogen can be used as a power generation fuel today and in the future.
Learn more about the benefits of hydrogen fueled gas turbines: www.ge.com/power/gas/fuel-cap... - Наука та технологія
Hydrogen, we'll have to change a lot of infrastructure, and our pals in the oil sector don't really like hydrogen, so all we do is blending..
Hydrogen can be made pretty efficiently from methane and and other fossil fuels. If an oil company got behind it they could make a few bucks and change things. But I doubt they want to risk their yearly $20 billion subsidies from Uncle Sam[tax payers].
Within 5 years the oil industry will reinvent itself with hydrogen, they are already running pilots on converting oil reservoirs to produce H2 gas in situ. They are the only ones with scale and know how to make the transition possible. Steam reforming has been done for years in refineries, but the key is trapping the CO2 underground to start with.
Blending also has to with energy density. A pure hydrogen plane will not be able to flight long haul route without refueling.
A lot of infrastructure? Don't we already have electricity and water? Let's install some electrolytics and produce H2 on site
If you think that's not very efficient then just use batteries
I'm guessing in the future sometime, that Turbofan and Turboprop engine design will be modified so it can run on Hydrogen, so you still have turbofans and turboprops like today but only water vapour comes out the exhaust. It's basically just swapping out Jet fuel for Hydrogen 👍
rotary engines can burn hydrogen, as they have a cold side of the intake, so it doesn´t preignite, also it has less part, and you don´t need a crankshaft, which makes it ideal for propeller aircraft
NASA had a Canberra running on hydrogen for some time before they replaced their Canberra’s with The u2, the Soviet Union also ran a passenger plane on hydrogen, and in both cases they used the original engines.
Love the illustration!
Curious...could you convert a GE90 to this fuel type?
Excllent leacture!!
I’m more interested if it can be injected into a standard afterburner liner for a ge-f414 engine...
Yes it can
@@theyeetus1428 with similar impulse to aviation fuels? I think the impulse would be lower, necessitating larger injectors. Then the louvres and thermal barrier coated areas would require some reimagining.
We also manufacture many parts of power plants in India however GE is a class apart. Using all the latest technology
How do generate the power to create the hydrogen for the generator?
So, you could change the injectors in a jet engine on a plane for bigger ones for the increased flow, fit cryogenic hydrogen tanks to a plane, because you would need the plane to carry three times more hydrogen than jet a1 fuel, as its got three times less energy stored in it than jet a1 fuel, and you would go the same distance, but, what would the weight be on that three times as much fuel? And would anyone feel safe flying in an aircraft thats got a cryogenic fuel tank? Or what about the fuel cells the iss space station uses to create electricity, then have electric motors powering the bypass fan?
You have put up all the questions that one had in mind!
The 1/3 energy is by volume not by mass, the power to weight of the fuel is significantly higher but the tanks need to be larger for a given amount of energy storage.
as industrial production of hydrogen is by splitting it from natural gas / methane, is hydrogen really clean?
Cleaner than jet fuel or diesel
you also can made it by electrolysis of water, and you can use PV energy for doing it, so it could be pretty clean, but in part you are right, i think that right now is more common to find hydrogen production systems by biomass or coal gasification (Australia export hydrogen produced by coal gasification like an example)
@@MRBLACKHUNTERPRO, if your end product is electricity, then just take the electricity. You lose a ton of energy by converting electricity to hydrogen then back to electricity.
We can do this to our cars too but in a higher ratio if we zink plate the block heads valves pistons and headers
GE tagline We bring good things to life.
how about a jet aircraft can you use hydrogen instead of jet fuel?
This would be interesting.
maybe the turbines who used kerosene don't cope with the increase in RPM and pressure.
@@notnigul39 I don't saing than a turbine for hydrogen can't be made, just than you can't re-use one made for any kind of petrol fuel, at least without modding, and the water is made when you use hydrogen to generate electricity with fuell cells, Im talking about direct combustion.
@@caberful gearbox, gearbox, gearbox!!!
@@scpfoundationtm1249 I don't even know what you're talking about or what do you mean.
I can imagine there being issues with high acoustics if the H2 was burned alone??
Only with your fat wife.
HHO generators with potassium hydroxide produces the fuel, and heaters are being made, pretty sweet for the dry cells they don't explode when protected by linear bolt retraints
can i share this on LinkedIn?
WTF,
I showed this concept back at my school back in 2013.
How dare they steal your idea!
I been talking about this to friends since the 90's
Would be nice in an E-Sportscar...
You know in Loki where they have that chirpy clock character that is hiding a sinister plot by the TVA.....something about this video reminds me of that...
Will it run on electrolysis produced HHO or browns gas? (Made from water).aka Oxyhydrogen
It probably would but if I'm not mistaken HHO burns very hot so it will just melt the engine.
Making hydrogen requires a bunch of power, thankfully nuclear has us covered there.
Ge do something to raise your stock please
what if u use hydrogen for a Junkers Jumo 205
O desenvolvimento de novo conceito de cilindro para armazenamento hidrogênio, inovação formado e do material.
Minha ideia coloquei pequeno cilindros dentro do cilindro principal.
Aumenta segurança e a capacidade m3 comparado modelo atual.
Some airlines like United are using this approach. But they will then have to increase their air fares, because this technology is very expensive. Then customers will just seek a cheaper airline to fly.
I saw that Robert Maddox guy looks like he's running pulse jets on propane... one day maybe we can use wood gasifiers to get to hydrogen and methane, which can be put in high pressure fuel cells for safe transport..
My other idea was just to put the wood gasifier onto a plane... which makes a lot of heat, but then you'd just use that heat to power a steam jet turbine, which would make a steam turbojet, that runs on wood
ok so i was watching this never seen befor and my dream just died
GE's Fuel Guy?! Man, who knew the Military Industrial Complex could be so charismatic?! Hi, Fuel Guy! What can I learn about the world today?
I want to work at GE 😍😍😍😍
Hope you like 3rd world countries. They killed Schenectady and horde the space their many buildings used to occupy.
Join the millwrights union
"there are many steel mills ,refineries and petrolchemical plants that generate gases containing hydrogen" that also generate tons on CO2 producing those gases thus not really "green"
question why we need turbine that use hydrogen when we need lots of energy to make them
Perhaps when titling a video using the words "gas turbines" and "hydrogen fuel" don't speak to the audience like they're 8 years old.
i think hydrogen will be the future for cars plane boat and more!!!
Modern gas turbines used for power generation are already at least fifty percent cleaner than any coal fired power plant.
Kawasaki Heavy Industries has accomplished the goal of building a turbine that runs on one hundred percent Hydrogen which is a world first and a huge clean energy breakthrough with the use of Green Hydrogen also possible.
A kit that can be retrofitted to most modern gas turbines so they can run a mix of Hydrogen and gas or one hundred percent Hydrogen would be extremely beneficial and another huge breakthrough if accomplished.
As turbines can be ramped up and down easily to meet power demands the modern gas and Hydrogen turbines multipurpose nature and overall efficiency is excellent for power generation but with no CO2 emmisions resulting from the use of Green Hydrogen when scrubbed before atmospheric release.The ability to use one hundred percent Green Hydrogen in a turbine design is in the same league as a Nuclear Fusion breakthrough in it's importance.
Also using the waste exhaust heat from the power generating turbine in a newly designed combined cycle power plant opens up a whole new world of ultra efficient power generation. Cogeneration systems can create more power and increase efficiency with the ability to filter and scrub the last of the exhaust before releasing it into the atmosphere to allow for even cleaner emmisions.
Coal fired power plants will go the way of the dinosaur with only a small percentage scattered around the globe in a few decades time.
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Thank you from 'H2 Innovation Lab' H2IL - innovative technology for a green sustainable hydrogen future.
Blending ?! BLENDING ?! Jeff Goldmeer, you owe the kids of the future something more than that. At least don't lie to them like it's really necessary to blend and all that. That's just bullshit greed talking. Tell them the truth - it costs a lot to clean up, it profits greatly to be as dirty as we've always been, so we'll keep doing it as long as we can.
Is that turbin or turbine
Hydrogen is difficult to store you have to use it and any hydrogen left over we use Sabatier reaction to turn it into methane the good news we use up CO2 .
Air is the fuel , it has huge amounts of water in it , the diesel is for gearboxes , and there is no fuel in the wings
Suuuuuure
@@felixbeutin8105 not at all ... but i am sure the don't put fuel i the wings together with axels and hydraulics for the flaps ,, i would say the fill some tanks with compressed air , but i am not the one hiding stuff
@@smilernok they are storing fuel in the wings don't know what else to say it's just a fact
@@felixbeutin8105 you can measure the weight of the plane during fueling , it becomes fact after testing and measuring the claims put out , mistakes are often made by NOT checking for error, and the common laws of physics should guide you in your Quest for truth
@@smilernok yeah you can and during fueling planes become heavier
Ok we get it you have been in the hydro business for centuries
you could rename the company instead of general electric to green energy
what about your fat wife.
Yes and Hydrogen grows on trees kids ! not one video on UA-cam of a Hydrogen powered Jet Turbine...
Sure, it'll definitely grow on trees if you setup hook up relatively cheap electrolysis cells with solar panels and hang them all over
Oil grows on trees kid!? 🤔
@@Volkyno hydrogen is not oil
@@chuckwoolery8668 Photosynthesis is similar to electrolysis.Trees use that to take the hydrogen out of the water and create sugar.
@@ziad_jkhan Concentrated solar with pyrolysis can generate quite a lot of hydrogen and the technology is still in is infancy. Storing hydrogen can be made simpler by putting and taking it out of molecules that allow this process to be done easily (and there are even more alternatives to compressed gas canisters).
its not green when u produce hydrogen with methane. The production of this way produces a lot co2 and need a lot of fossil methane gas. With more intelligence u just use water via electrolysis. That is green and safe hydrogen
its not green when you are an idiot...
Hydrogen has more energy than jet fuel all we have to do is tap that energy, Hydrogen burns hotter than jet fuel and in a current jet engine, it just wastes extra heat But by reinventing the Hydrogen jet engine and using that energy instead of wasting the heat by looking at the ion engine and the plasma engine also the microwave propulsion engine .there is a way to make Hydrogen a useful jet might not need to store hydrogen instead by using electrolysis we can simply separate the Oxygen and the hydrogen in Water burn the hydrogen and using the oxygen to make them burn hotter thus plasma the answer is right in front of us Two engineers working on a weekend can figure it out ! Someday soon the garages of America will open and flying cars will be everywhere . Electric flying cars are anti-gravity!
space shutte is fuel by hydrogen u search
Use hydrogen as electronic gas liquid solid so it behaved like a pool of electron
So against sunlight it behaved like a electron giving solid 😂😂😂😂😂so simple
Solid state hydrogen electric batteries🔋 😂😂😂😂😂
Hol' up, this is bill gates company, right?
cringe/ for who you made this video?
Barf. So much crap and they know it